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Digest - 7 Jun 2000 to 8 Jun 2000 (#2000-166)

Thu, 8 Jun 2000

There are 16 messages totalling 372 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Fw: "Toronto the Good" --Of interest to fanfic researchers
  2. African vampires exposed!
  3. Angel vs. FK (6)
  4. How about Angel AND FK? (6)
  5. Fk Web Chat
  6. The next issue of The Crusader

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:15:00 -0300
From:    "T. Floyd" <jflyer@b.......>
Subject: Fw: "Toronto the Good" --Of interest to fanfic researchers

: It was quite apparent that Nick, Vachon, and probably Janette are concerned
: to varying degrees with the dark side of Toronto and the lives of its
: inhabitants--the part that this group of students viewed.
:
:
http://www.thestar.com/thestar/back_issues/ED20000604/news/20000604NEW02_MIC
: HELE.html
: (cut and paste if the url wraps)
: Excerpt:  "The group brought their legendary American openness to our city,
: and they took away a more nuanced appreciation of our strengths, our
: struggles and our cultural differences. "
:
: --
: admin@p.......
: http://Laplor.tripod.com
:
:

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Date:    Sat, 7 Jun 1980 15:30:59 -0600
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: African vampires exposed!

 In a recent issue of the weekly science magazine _Nude_, er,  _New
Scientist_, there was a report about African birds called Oxpeckers.
Ornithologists _thought_ they were just pretty birds, sitting and eating
ticks off the African oxen... but they were WRONG! It seems that actually
they don't eat ticks, they peel open the scabs created by the ticks and
eat/drink the cows' blood. One young donkey had a very large hole in his
leg-- excavated with tender loving care by the Oxpeckers.

See! Vampires that have existed with humans for millennia, undetected! Who
knows what else is going on out there....

Your humble & obedient servant,
Ligeia

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Date:    Sat, 7 Jun 1980 15:39:32 -0600
From:    Angela Gottfred <agottfre@t.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

Hmmm... if Angel is successful, then surely other productions will follow
its lead, in order to "cash in" on a proven formula. Sounds like an
excellent argument for reviving FK to me! So don't _complain_ about Angel,
tell TPTB that it proves there's still an audience out there for a proven
product: FK.

Your humble & obedient servant,
Ligeiea

FK P.S. I gave blood today; afterwards, while I was having my tea and
cookies, I read _Bloodbeats: A Newsletter for Members of the Community_.
Sadly, it was not published by L. LaCroix, but by the Canadian Blood
Service.

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 20:03:26 EDT
From:    Alifoxx@a.......
Subject: How about Angel AND FK?

I don't post very often, but the discussion about Angel and FK got me
interested.

<<> I just checked out the tentative schedule for Toronto Trek 2000 and found a
>  panel entitled Angel:  Another Forever Knight.  It promises to be an
>  interesting discussion.>>

The above description of a forum/discussion is very interesting and it made
me think......what if Angel were to find a way to introduce an FK character
on their show....guest appearance I suppose, or continuing character. Since
supposedly Nick is gone (don't believe it), the obvious choice would be
LaCroix. Now think about it....what a burden/help and general nuisance he
could be to Angel. I think it would be good for their ratings and at the same
time bring FK to life...a bit. Sort of a marriage made somewhere other than
Heaven<g>.

JL

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 00:25:14 GMT
From:    Lauren Harris <lauren1228@m.......>
Subject: Fk Web Chat

 Hi! Lets start chatting here. Im already chating here
right now with a few FK buddies and would like more FK fans
to come :) the url is :
http://www.infinityweb.com/~alice/fkchat/archive/chat.980530
.0134.html

 Have fun!
  Lauren :)

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:57:20 EDT
From:    Knightwave@a.......
Subject: The next issue of The Crusader

The latest issue of The Crusader is ready for posting.  The subscription list
for our little newsletter has grown so much that it has become too large to
handle manually, sooo...  I've opened an egroup account to get the issues out
to everyone who have subscribed.  The list will be a closed one; no posting
expect for the newsletter nor will the members list be available.  You may
decline the subscription by replying to the introductory message.

There are a LOT of names, so please be patient as I add people to the list.
If you've changed your email address since joining and haven't informed me,
please do so now.  If you don't want to receive the newsletter, please let me
know and I'll remove your name promptly.  If you have trouble receiving posts
from egroups for some reason, then contact me and we'll work out something.
<smile>

All of us involved with KtK are pleased that so many of you have shown such
interest in The Crusader.  I hope that this change won't be an inconvenience,
but it's necessary.

Anyone wanting to receive the newsletter, contact me off-list at
knightwave@a....... or knightwave@j....... and I'll add you on.  Thanks
everyone for your support.

Bring Back the Knight
Enjoy,
April
knightwave@a.......
knightwave@j.......

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Date:    Wed, 7 Jun 2000 23:14:17 -0700
From:    Cloud <clouddancer@h.......>
Subject: Re: How about Angel AND FK?

Alifoxx@a....... wrote:
> ...what if Angel were to find a way to introduce an FK character on
> their show... <snip> ...bring FK to life...a bit. Sort of a marriage
> made somewhere other than Heaven<g>.

Good idea, but we'll need some cheese to explain the difference in
'staking' results.

--
Cloud

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 05:00:56 PDT
From:    Gwenn Musicante <gwennm@h.......>
Subject: Re: How about Angel AND FK?

From <clouddancer@h.......>
Good idea, but we'll need some cheese to explain the difference in
'staking' results.

Differerences?  Aren't all vampires created equal?

Gwenn Musicante

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:16:10 -0500
From:    Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: How about Angel AND FK?

> Good idea, but we'll need some cheese to explain the difference in
> 'staking' results.
   Heck, you need a load of limburger to explain the differences
season to season in FK.  :-)

                Tim

 Tim Phillips
 timp@d.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:18:18 -0400
From:    "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

From: <KnghtWtch@a.......>
> I and the FK fans out here would appreciate it if you would act as a reporter
> for the people who can't attend and let us know what happen and what was said.

I'll be there.  Probably courtesy of Buffy and Angel, there is more vampire
programming on this year's schedule than there has been since FK was
cancelled.

Ahh, those were the days:  FK mini-cons, FK plays, FK fan merchandise.
(Nostalgic <g>)

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:54:13 -0400
From:    "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

From: "Diane Harris" <dharris@h.......>
 Both drive convertibles

Yeah, but Angel's is a Plymouth.  From personal experience, I know that
during the winter, if he was living in Toronto he'd be driving a rental more
times than not.  Older Plymouths tend to be very weather tempremental.

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:01:30 -0400
From:    "Cindy L. Clark" <ClarkCindy@e.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

From: "Enid Rodriguez" promises to be an
> Don't get me wrong, David Borenez is a talented and good-looking fellow,
> but I do not believe for one-second that his character "Angel" has been
> around for centuries.

Angel is only a mere ~200 years old.  An infant compared to our favorite
vamps.  But I agree that he fits a little too comfortably into the society
of the younger set.

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:34:01 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

> From: "Enid Rodriguez"
> > Don't get me wrong, David Borenez is a talented and good-looking fellow,
> > but I do not believe for one-second that his character "Angel" has been
> > around for centuries.

And I'll stick my neck out and say that DB isn't particularly talented,
although he's gotten better -- the saving grace of Angel is that they've
surrounded him with actors who can carry him. He broods well, though,
because he doesn't have to use any expressions to do that, and he's
naturally gloomy-looking. Another aid is that the scripts are fairly
well-written, as are the Buffy scripts.

I saw an ep with a flashback to early-1800s Ireland, where he supposedly is
from. First off, the costumes were laughable (picture beach bimbos in
"serving wench" attire) and DB cannot produce an Irish accent for all the
tea in China. He looked and acted anachronistic. Ger can do accents and look
natural in period costuming. DB can't.

> Angel is only a mere ~200 years old.  An infant compared to our favorite
> vamps.  But I agree that he fits a little too comfortably into the society
> of the younger set.

Angel doesn't show the weight of years, while Nick does. Of course we're
talking actors at the opposite ends of the talent scale, here. IMO, of
course. <g>

Nancy Kaminski
who watches Angel/Buffy for the clever dialog, and to watch Spike whine and
diss everyone in sight

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 08:44:06 -0700
From:    Storm Born <the_stormborn@y.......>
Subject: Re: How about Angel AND FK?

--- Alifoxx@a....... wrote:
>>what if Angel were to find a way to introduce an FK
character on their show....<snip> the obvious choice
would be LaCroix. <snip><<

Methinks LaCroix would have Angel for breakfast! <eg>

=====
Molly/StormBorn
FKPagan/Cousin/Seducer/Ravenette/DT/Who's Army Legionnaire
the_stormborn@y.......
Always remember to pillage BEFORE you burn.

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 11:23:34 -0500
From:    Nancy Kaminski <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: How about Angel AND FK?

> Storm Born

> Methinks LaCroix would have Angel for breakfast! <eg>

Oh, absolutely true! They're faster, smarter, stronger, and much more evil
<g>. Lacroix? Heck, *Spark* could have Angel for breakfast!

Nancy Kaminski
nancykam@m.......

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Date:    Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:01:30 -0700
From:    "Laura K. Griffin" <miltonsfire@p.......>
Subject: Re: Angel vs. FK

Coming out of lurkdom to say that I enjoy "Angel" -- and that's partly
because of the similarities between 'Angel' and 'FK'. I enjoying
noticing the similarities, but I also enjoy the show because it's
amusing. It's  got a good cast.

As for FK vamps appearing on the show, I certainly think it would be
interesting to watch Lacroix or Janette sit back and poke fun at the
'baby' vampires. After meeting Angel, Janette would be tempted to wonder
if Nick 'fathered' or at least tutored the boy in Angst and guilt.

Just my 2 cents.

Cousin Laura -- Eternal Order of the White Rose
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Portal/6866/Laura.htm
"Even though you're refracted,
you're still you." - 'Picasso at the Lapin Agile'

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