FORKNI-L
Digest - 23 Mar 2000 (#2000-88)
Thu, 23 Mar 2000
There are 9 messages totalling 320 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Dogfight (was Supersonic vamp flight) (3)
2. FK and e-books (3)
3. YKYB....
4. What the FK vamps dont't want anyone to know about
5. Yaaaa! Thwarted by Evil Web Servers!
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:20:47 EST
From: Libratsie@a.......
Subject: Re: Dogfight (was Supersonic vamp flight)
In a message dated Thu, 23 Mar 2000 2:01:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Kyer
<kyer@p.......> writes:
> It would be like Snoopy and the Red Baron! 1917: Nick and LaCroix shaking
> their fists and screaming insults at each other as they zoomed overhead in
> their Sopwith Camels!
And Screed would fit right in as a daredevil/barnstorming sort of WWI pilot.
After all, he's aready got one of those neat skull caps! Only I don't know if
you could truthfully call it a dogfight, then. Too much drooly thingees,
dogfights. It'd have to be a rat fight.
--Libs
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:41:05 -0500
From: Tim Phillips <Timp@d.......>
Subject: Re: Dogfight (was Supersonic vamp flight)
> And Screed would fit right in as a daredevil/barnstorming sort of WWI pilot.
> It'd have to be a rat fight.
Mmm.
During World War II the Me-262 jets were too fast for the piston-
engined fighters of the day to handle when they got up to speed.
The Me-262's primative turbojets didn't accelerate very well,
however, which meant that the jets were vulnerable as they were
landing or taking off.
The Allies took to mounting patrols that swept across the
bases that the jets used at low altitude, prowling for slow-flying jets
that could be destroyed before they got up to speed or landed and
disappeared into their protected reventments.
Such patrols were called "rat-catching".
I have a flash-image of Screed at the stick of a British Spitfire
with a large piece of nose-art on the cowl. A fiesty looking rodent
reared up on its back legs with large fangs and a gleam in its eyes.
Under the picture is the phrase "KILLER RAT"
Tim
Tim Phillips
timp@d.......
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:00:24 -0600
From: Carla Martinek <copper6500@y.......>
Subject: Re: FK and e-books
"Nancy E. Kaminski" wrote:
> I really don't think Sony will be licensing FK for any more books, but that
> certainly doesn't prevent fans from producing fanfic in electronic form.
The only drawback is the legalities... using FK characters, etc. in works that
are sold. Do they leave the charity fanzines alone because they're charity?
What about regular fanzines? I've wondered about that, and why TPTB don't clamp
down on them, because we are technically violating copyrights.
Think about it, though. If you wrote a long FK story -- novel length -- and if
you could put it up and charge people a dollar or two to buy it, you'd make a
little money, and as a reader, I'd certainly pay that small amount for some of
the long stories that have been written! I'd consider it a great incentive for
the writers to keep up the good work.
> In fact, the charity fanzine, "A Taste of Forever" went to the
> printer as a PDF -- hmm, anyone want to buy an electronic copy? <g>
Now THAT is something I'd like. Would it be at the same price, or reduced
because there's no actual print charges? While I LOVE hardcopy, with my
children around, stuff is much safer online, where I can print it out for
reading, and print it again if something happens to it, lose a page, etc.
This might be a really good way to go for future fanzines, as well. Take
payments either online or via snail mail, and then send people the link for
downloading. I'd miss the nicer presentation that would come with a
professionally printed piece, but the graphics are still there to see, and I can
read online or print for offline reading... actually offers more options.
Something to think about...
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:08:23 -0600
From: "Nancy E. Kaminski" <nancykam@m.......>
Subject: Re: FK and e-books
Carla Martinek wrote:
>The only drawback is the legalities... using FK characters, etc. in works that
>are sold. Do they leave the charity fanzines alone because they're charity?
>What about regular fanzines? I've wondered about that, and why TPTB don't
>clamp down on them, because we are technically violating copyrights.
I'd only do it for charity, myself. I'd bet that FK fanzines are such a
small blip on Sony's horizon they can't be bothered to stomp on them.
>Think about it, though. If you wrote a long FK story -- novel length -- and if
>you could put it up and charge people a dollar or two to buy it, you'd make a
>little money, and as a reader, I'd certainly pay that small amount for some of
>the long stories that have been written! I'd consider it a great incentive for
>the writers to keep up the good work.
Obviously it has been done, because there are for-profit zines out there. I
can't see any difference in doing it electronically.
>Now THAT is something I'd like. Would it be at the same price, or reduced
>because there's no actual print charges? While I LOVE hardcopy, with my
>children around, stuff is much safer online, where I can print it out for
>reading, and print it again if something happens to it, lose a page, etc.
I would have to consult with my co-editors, but my initial thought would be
to charge the amount per zine that went to the charity, not the amount for
materials/postage.
>This might be a really good way to go for future fanzines, as well. Take
>payments either online or via snail mail, and then send people the link for
>downloading. I'd miss the nicer presentation that would come with a
>professionally printed piece, but the graphics are still there to see, and I
>can read online or print for offline reading... actually offers more options.
>Something to think about...
The file can be put on a CD, or on a website that has no link to a main
page, or...heck, there are all sorts of possibilities. It would be an
interesting design challenge, because you can use color in a PDF that you
can't in low-budget printing. It could turn out to be quite a work of art!
Nancy Kaminski
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:10:46 EST
From: EnidKnight@a.......
Subject: YKYB....
YKYB....
You are in the salon, getting your hair done. When you overhear
the following conversation next to you between another customer and
a stylist.
"Yuck, ring 'round the collar."
"What are you, a hygienist?"
I sat there with my mouth open until my stylist told me to close it
because of the fumes.
Enid Rodriguez
GWDFC, G5 Attendee, Survivor of War 10, Enforcer, Harem Wife.
EnidKnight@a......., LadyEnid@h......., ICQ# 3 2 7 3 5 7 9 1
"Four beers, a little James Brown and you can't keep me off the tables."
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:20:53 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: What the FK vamps dont't want anyone to know about
I've been wondering, what guilty secrets could our favorite hemovores be
hiding?
LaCroix: His thirty year correspondence with Mr. Rogers.
Nick: His Furby collection.
Janette: Her beehive do days. There's a reason we never saw Janette in any
of the '60's flashbacks. <G>
Vachon: His extensive collection of artwork by Tom of Finland. (email me
privately if you don't get that one <g>)
Urs: Her cherished collection of quilted housecoats.
Screed: His MENSA membersip.
<g>
Anybody else?
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:35:17 EST
From: Laudon1965@a.......
Subject: Re: Dogfight (was Supersonic vamp flight)
In a message dated 03/23/2000 12:01:04 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
kyer@p....... writes:
<< Or maybe... 1980's. Nick in his American fighter going vampo-a-vampo
against LaCroix in the MIG. (Both *borrowed* from their pilots virtue of
their whammy abilities. <g>) >>
For a minute there, I thought "vampo-a-vampo" was the sound the airplane was
making. Like Walter Middy's "Tapoketa-Tapoketa" I can easily see GWD as
Walter Middy. <g>
Laurie of the Isles
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 15:54:40 -0500
From: "Brenda F. Bell" <webwarren@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK and e-books
At 11:01 AM 3/23/00 -0600, Carla Martinek wrote:
>Depending on the individual book settings (created by author and/or
>publisher), you may have the option to print. This feature is disabled
>in some books, though. (why, I don't know... doesn't make sense.
Because it is a separate right to be negotiated with the author, and an
additional fee to be paid.
>I don't plan on printing 30 copies for all of my friends.)
Also, how do they know that you're not going to do that?
>And, us FK fans are pretty good about stuff like that, anyway. :-)
*We* may be pretty good about that, but the *publishers* have to worry about the
rest of FK fandom, and other fandoms, and 'danes, and so on...
>I'm sending an email to Glassbooks about some of these issues, since it's all
>fresh in my mind.
Hope this clears some of that up.
Brenda Faith Bell bfbell@d.......
Consultant, <italic><color><param>ffff,0000,0000</param>The Web
Warren</color></italic> http://www.webwarren.com/
webwarren@e.......
arachne@w.......
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Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:59:48 -0700
From: Kyer <kyer@p.......>
Subject: Yaaaa! Thwarted by Evil Web Servers!
Ack! <scream of De Nile, beating of head on keyboard>
I finally *finally* got Homestead to let me in and edit my Weird Knight
website (first time in weeks!), spent hours making a faq page and fixing
stuff---and never realized Prodigy had *dumped* me from the Internet! No
Warning!!! All my work down the sewage drain to be used by Screed as bedding
for the ratsies.
Take me now, LaCroix! (to Prodigy h.q. so's I can beat them over the head
with my mouse while I watch you drain the <sob!> bastards dry.) (ha!
thought you finally *had* me---huh, Monica. <g> )
Angsted, : (=
Kyer
kyer@p.......
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