File: "FORKNI-L LOG9606D" Part 1 TOPICS: Blackwing script and did they? CERK shirt Slow servers and tired hamsters... (3) YKYBWTMFKW . . . Nick and Horses The Fix and mortality (was: Spolers: Blackwing) Killing - sipping - blood volume FORKNI-L Digest - 20 Jun 1996 Ger and a new series (3) HELP! Missing Story Part Nick, Nat, and Janette Many things/A german Dark Knightie/ German listmenbers wanted! Saving face Nick and cures Hamster feed was Re: Nick, Nat, and Janette Save FK Page Has Been Updated ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:09:01 -0400 From: Judith Freudenthal <DanaKnight@a.......> Subject: Re: *Blackwing script and did they?* With learning Nat was an abused child it makes her problems with getting into relationships understandable. I think it would also hurt her ability to be a big risk taker. Being involved with vampires, one in particular, is taking quite a risk. She's putting her career and reputation on the line (and probably her medical license as well) every time she covers for a sloppy vampire. Those are some pretty big risks to take for someone who could be gone tomorrow without word. Not that I'm saying Nick would actually go through with it. Also how can you totally trust or totally give your heart to someone who might take off? I think him nearly leaving without saying good-bye during Buddha hurt her. I think after her childhood it is harder for her when those she loves and considers friends do something like that. She is less willing to invest more in the relationship when she does not know how the other feels or if they will desert her. I do think she believes Nick cares for her, even loves her, but she needs to hear the words. Nick and Grace are probably Natalie's two best friends. I wonder which one she has shared more of her life with. I would have to say probably Nick. When it comes to dating and such things then I would have to say Grace. Judy DanaKnight@a....... Knightie, Natpacker, N&Npacker ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:14:10 -0400 From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......> Subject: Re: CERK shirt Sorry to waste bandwidth, but will Penny at THOMASP4@m....... privately e-mail me. I sent you a message but I think your e-mail bounced. Let me know if you received it. Thanks, Lisa *************************************************************************** Only one thing is truly permanent...Forever Knight Cousinly Knightie w/NatPacker tendencies <I do so hate to limit myself> LadysAVamp@a......., oboyyme@t....... <Just call me a Lady of the Knight...but say it with a smile> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:16:58 -0400 From: "Lisa P." <LadysAVamp@a.......> Subject: Re: Slow servers and tired hamsters... I think the hampsters are DEAD. I sent 2 posts to FORKNI-L 24 hours ago and they still haven't dropped. Which makes me wonder why I'm posting this?! Just venting I guess. Lisa Patnaude *************************************************************************** Only one thing is truly permanent...Forever Knight Cousinly Knightie w/NatPacker tendencies <I do so hate to limit myself> LadysAVamp@a......., oboyyme@t....... <Just call me a Lady of the Knight...but say it with a smile> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:46:35 -0400 From: Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......> Subject: YKYBWTMFKW . . . Tou know you've been watching too much Forever Knight when . . . While reading the Social Studies column of the Toronto "Globe and Mail" you discover that "in 996 AD, the Fatimid caliph Al-Hakim ... who ruled an empire extending from Morocco to the Red Sea, acquired a taste for staying up all night and sleeping all day; he decreed subjects do the same, under pain of death" and you wonder just where LC resided a 1000 years ago and what was he doing (besides empowering stray hookers). <Ducking and Running from an "unkindess" of enraged Ravenettes.> Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc., P.Prog <ag775@f.......> Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:50:32 -0400 From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......> Subject: Re: Nick and Horses Heather Poinsett writes: >This has probably been talked to death, but I've been stomped on by every >kind of horse from a twenty year old quarter horse gelding to a crazy >arab filly. I always thought it went with the territory...getting stomped Uh, guys... I just realized something. <sheepish> We've been talking about _two different things_ here. Mea maxima culpa. What I *meant* to say was, "Horses will never *run over* another living thing if they can help it." (Do you have any idea how *long* I've been reading the posts on this topic, scratching my head, and saying, "What kind of vicious horses have these people owned? And why aren't they dead from being 'stomped on' countless times?" <G>) I realize now that I didn't say that properly. But I thought the main thrust of our topic was whether or not the horses were about to *endanger* Nick. I wouldn't call a blackened toenail from a glancing hoof a "danger" to a vampire, per se <G>. I was talking more about the horse knocking Nick down and mauling him, than, say, stepping on his foot. Unless, of course, I *do* still have it wrong, and those of you who've been responding train wild mustangs ;))) Felicia Bollin AriCon@a....... Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*MBDtK ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 00:50:53 -0400 From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......> Subject: The Fix and mortality (was: Spolers: Blackwing) Mei-Wa Kwong writes: >When he first walks out into the sun and grabs Nat. He holds her away >from him for a moment and just looks at her. Granted one might interept >it as gratefulness, but I think there is a valid argument there that >there is a lot more emotion behind that look than just gratefulness. Can't really argue with that, since you didn't state your valid argument, so I'll go for another angle ... Someone, in this same thread, also said something to the effect of "I wonder what would happen when Nick *did* finally get cured--- would there be anything left standing on Nat's desk as Nick and Nat flung each other on the nearest flat surface?" (Yes, I apologize for that wicked and no doubt injust paraphrase, but I lost the original post, blush). That fails to take into account one thing--- As far as Nick believed, regardless of what Natalie might have warned him to the contrary during "The Fix"--- In his mind, *he WAS permanently cured*. And he *did not* make a move to toss Nat onto any flat surface at that time, did he? :) I guess what I'm trying to say is this: The only way *I* know how to look at the Nick and Nat relationship is through the filter of my own experiences. And if a man treated *me* the way Nat treated Nick in "the Fix", he would most *certainly* hear about it from me <VBG>. That's what I guess I'm most curious about (and this certainly can be answered by any N&N-er, it's not exclusively meant for Mei-Wa) is this: Would you be satisfied with a "relationship" with a man/woman like Nick has with Nat? Forget about his sex appeal, or the eye candy factor. Would it make you happy and fulfilled? Would it be a whole, healthy relationship? And if not, why would you wish something you wouldn't want for yourself on your favorite character? What does Nick do for Nat? Nat does tons of things for Nick. Proportionally, I think Nick would have to do nice things for Nat for sixty years straight to make up for it. Now, I'm not saying he's cold or uncaring, far from it; he comforts her in "Undue Process", when her goddaughter gets murdered, for example, and I'm sure I could name at least another half-dozen situations where Nick is a comfort and help to Nat. But let's not pretend that the balance is by any means even. Nick seems to think sometimes that his presence in Natalie's life is its own reward ;))))) In my book, I wouldn't want to slave that long to help Nick find a cure, and have the only reward be him letting me gaze at his blond gorgeousness ;))) I'm sorry, but I'd want a _heck_ of a lot more from a man. It obviously didn't make _Nat_ happy and fulfilled--- she all but said that in "THE" episode, the one I'm not going to name because well, then we're getting into spoiler territory, but I'm sure you all know which one I mean :( . Would you like to be treated the way Nick treats Nat? If it were you and not Nat in "The Fix", and the first thought that sprang up into the head of your adored love object was, "Oh boy! I just got cured from this disease I've wanted to be rid of for over hundreds of years--- let's go run and see my old flame, who I've known for roughly *133 times the amount of time* that I've known you!" Would you sit there and "understand"--- or would you put your foot down? I've been in situations where a current love interest has chosen his former flame's company over mine, and you can be sure I did not scruple to give him the flat side of my tongue for his behavior. Nat just lies there and takes it. Those of you who watch "The X-Files" may know what I'm talking about, without my going too far afield: the Scully/Mulder thing seems to appeal to just as many people as the Nick/Nat thing; however, that sort of, well, works for me. And the reason _why_ it works for me is that, when I watch, I see that Scully and Mulder *respect* each other, 24-7; and I can buy a relationship with that level of respect the two have for each other. I do not see the same level of respect for Nat from Nick. It seems sometimes like Nat does all the work, while all Nick provides is the worry. I don't find it _at all_ respectful, for instance, when Nick runs to Marian Blackwing without so much as a by-your-leave to Nat, who's been slaving doggedly for six years (That's "JP time", don't'cha know <VVBG>). >As for going to see Janette, there is also the argument that the reason >he did that was because Nat said they needed to test the drug on another >vampire. That is in the dialogue, spoken by Nick. Another good argument >there that he went to Janette not because he loves her, but he wanted to Well, there is also this argument for saying that Nick chose Janette for this "test" for other reasons than sheer expediency: Why on earth would Nick have thought that Janette would be *willing* to "be Nat's guinea pig"? He knows she doesn't (didn't; I'm going by what we would have seen prior to "The Fix", leaving third season out of it) want mortality or anything of the kind! It looks to me like he specifically wanted HER to try the cure and come back across. With the kind of money he has?! He could have paid any Screed-like vampire a million dollars, easy, to try the cure as a control group. He did not have to go to Janette because she was the only vampire in town. We've seen, first from Vachon and later, especially, from Screed, that there are disenfranchised vampires in Toronto. Where there are two, there can be several. Nick could have bribed any one of them to do it and keep their mouth shut; he didn't have to go to Janette. Janette and LaCroix are not the only vampires from which to choose in Toronto. If he was worried about the Enforcers finding out, he could have picked Alma or Miklos to bribe, someone else close to Janette (well, close enough to know to keep their mouth shut <G>). >Errr, nothing between them? I don't think sooooooooo. Well, obviously, we totally disagree :). Sure, there is something between Nick and Nat. Friendship ;) . I've not argued that, not ever. I just don't buy a "love" story where TPTB apparently decide they should throw a romantic episode on in there every four months or so, and have them just act like good buddies all the rest of the time. IMO, that's more like "Six years of 'we're just good friends' except when the script dictates that we must be 'in love'." :) (But I did admire your complete and total recall of those scenes, Mei-Wa <VBG>). Felicia Bollin AriCon@a....... Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*MBDtK ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:03:17 -0400 From: K Sweebe <KSweebe@a.......> Subject: Re: Killing - sipping - blood volume I can't believe that I'm making my first posting on this board (any board) on this subject, but I just can't resist. Vampires HAVE to be able to sip at least within certain limits. If they drained every victim, no one would last long enough to take in the vampires blood and be brought across. No little baby vampires. Not to mention the old legends; that is, unless you're taking FK in isolation from all other vampire lore that has gone before. Correct me if I am wrong (I'm sure you will) but wasn't Dracula after his darling Mina several times? Taking her down more and more each time? What I feel is that Vampires have a very strong compulsion towards draining, that old animal nature. In order to bring someone across, a Vampire would have to feel strongly enough or have enough of another overriding reason to be able to overcome the compulsion to drain. Give a man dying of thirst in the desert a cup of water and how many would have the control to just sip it? Which of course could lead to just all kinds of speculations about Nick and contro,l but I'm not going to spell that one out for you....figure it out for yourself. P.S. Someone else in an earlier post made comment on Nick's statement about not needing a beating heart to bring out the blood, but without it the body would have to be drained like a cow. That one bothered me. As any forensics expert will tell you...dead bodies don't bleed short of massive butchery, it just sort of pools up where it is unless pulled down by gravity. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------- undecided between the angst brick and manipulative master. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:40:28 -0700 From: Jerimi Paul <paul9454@u.......> Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 20 Jun 1996 I sent a quick message on how to do this. (I've always wanted to say that!) -Jerimi--->paul9454@r....... Rampant Vaquero ~with suspiciously perky Cousinly tendencies Keeper of the deranged hamster. No! I didn't say that! Back! AAAHHH! Soon to be mother of a hopefully kinder, gentler rodent- a rat. ;) On Thu, 20 Jun 1996, Claudette Koehler wrote: > Please cancel my subscription....Thanks > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:25:32 -0800 From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......> Subject: Re: Ger and a new series Okay, I will play. GWD in a new series playing a priest. Just ponder what confession what confession would be like. Humm a crime-solving priest, well, he is more interesting than Geo. Kennedy. Barbara ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:30:12 -0500 From: Erin Friedman <efriedm1@m.......> Subject: Re: HELP! >Did anyone get a copy of part 7 of Breaking Dawn? I sent >this some time ago and it has not dropped into my box. If you all are >getting it fine, if not, I'll need to do something else. Sorry, Carrie, but I didn't receive it. I've been waiting for it because I'm really enjoying the story and I can't wait to see what happens next. I hope you find out what's wrong and ccan get it posted. Lots of Luck!!!! =========================================================================== =========== Erin Friedman efriedm1@m....... Nick & Nat Packer " In Love and Faith, There is Forever" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:30:10 -0800 From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......> Subject: Re: *RE: Ger and a new series* Now I am getting silly. GWD in a new series as a crossdressing detective. Just a thought. Barbara ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 22:46:45 -0800 From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......> Subject: Re: Ger and a new series GWD in Alaska--he could be a bush pilot who lives in a cabin with no running water, indoor plumbing, or electrics. Here in Alaska, I live in Fairbanks, men outnumber women, GWD's character might consider posing for "Men of Alaska" magazine--sort of the Sears catalog for women silly enough to believe they can find a decent man in the same way they find shoes. I still like the crossdressing priest idea. Barbara ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:56:17 -0500 From: Robbi Egersdorf <egersdor@m.......> Subject: Missing Story Part I have been inundated with requests for the first part of my new story "The Stars in Ourselves" so I have reposted that for FKFIC-L, believing that it didn't come out like it was supposed to. There were also some problems with my computer translating Anja's German from her computer. That has been corrected in the repost. Thanks Robbi ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 01:43:20 -0700 From: Amy R. <akr@n.......> Subject: Nick, Nat, and Janette From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......> >I am continually confused by this idea that Nick should have to "work" >for a cure. Why should this necessarily be so? Is it impossible for >there to be some "instant" type of cure out there for him to take? Completely aside from the Nat-Boosting arguments, I personally belive that it is dramatically and artistically necessary for any cure to come either from great effort, or great risk, or both. I don't mind Nick attempting "fix" cures, but I would have been upset if TPTB had given us a simple "fix" once and for all. From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......> >Now do you suppose Schanke found similar personality traits in >Emily's vampire to Nick? The fact that he saw Emily as the female >story lead is interesting. He doesn't see Nat in that part. In "Baby, Baby," Skank thinks it is obvious that Nick is in love with Serena. When he says as much to Nat in the precinct, it clearly hurts her. Skank doesn't notice, but I don't think even he would have made that remark if he thought there was anything between Nick and Nat. >Emily starts with her own conception of her vampire, which gets >replaced with Nick in the later reading she gives. The actor who plays the initial character looks a lot like the actor who played Spark in AMPH. Is he? Either way, both Spark and Emily's vampire look a lot like the Inca.... From: Jane Credland <janes@i.......> >Still, all of the examples you quoted are one-sided. There is no >"traditional courtship scene" where both Nick and Nat are on the same >wavelength. There is one, in BMV, when they are in the room behind the two-way glass. The others have either Nat (LNMTA) or Nick (MBIAV) holding back too much to consider it truly mutual. However, I would be very interested to have pointed out to me a "traditional courtship scene" with Nick and Janette. From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......> >Would you be satisfied with a "relationship" with a man/woman like Nick has >with Nat? Forget about his sex appeal, or the eye candy factor. Would it >make you happy and fulfilled? Would it be a whole, healthy relationship? Ummmmm.... aren't there some N&Ners who simply say that N&N *ought* to be in love, not that they *are*? It's an important distinction. That said, unless we allow for some things in Nat's background that were never made overtly canonical, the current relationship between Nick and Natalie is clearly an unhealthy one. They have potential, not present. Nick and Janette, on the other hand, have past and potential, but no present, either. I would be happier to be neglected (Nat) than used (Janette), though obviously both relationships are pretty messed up (which is why I like Janette as we most recently saw her). Ironically, I think that both Natalie and Janette have been in love with Nick for some time, but that Nick got over Janette long ago, and that he didn't begin to fall for Nat until it was too late. I would be happy to hear evidence that Nick is "in love" with Janette, as long as it doesn't confuse sex with love. I haven't been able to document any on my own -- exchanging the sex for the pedestal, and history for work, today's Nick seems to have almost identical relationships with Nat and Janette. **** Amy R., Lady of the Knight (akr@n.......) **** "Memory's/ like wine; it might keep, it might turn." -- LF Knightie, Light Cousin, Fleur-Booster, (Im)Mortal Beloved ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:53:43 +0200 From: ret <sl0274@a.......> Subject: Many things/A german Dark Knightie/ German listmenbers wanted! Hello out threre! Here is Azaeel again! Yes, the one with the terrible English! I like your crusade for FK merchandise!I think I should write another letter to them! They should know that we Germans are also interested in merchandise! This thing exactly could save FK finally! As long as they have the same need for money as Paramount! Without the merchandise STAR TREK never have existed that long! Ger has a new series!!!! I'm very curious about it! Please post it into the list if you know more! Greetings to all GWD fanclub member especially to those lucky 100 whose see him next weekend!I will join some day when I have the money! Hey Dark Knighties! We ARE the rational ones! We believe that Nick is better of as vampire! He only need to control himself! He must not kill! He has to learn to take as much as he needs and then turn away! He would not survive a day as a human I think! He to emotionally weak for it! I talk like Lacroix I guess but that is my opinion! Don't shoot me please! Hey Germans out there those who not joined our little german 'Save Forever Knight' quest! Please write to me! We NEED you too!There is a lot work to do before we get the thrid season! In Germany is no offical FK Fanclub but some Vampire Clubs which includes FK stuff! And so the CHILDREN OF DARKNESS do! Write to me for more information! Anybody who read german is welcome! Greetings to all listmembers that know me! I write as soon as possible! Please be patient! For a darker knight! Azaeel (Sabine) Dark Knightie. Immortal Beloved. Fiver( greetings to all Marcus fans out there). And a gothic in real life! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:39:51 EDT From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@v.......> Subject: Saving face Someone commented most astutely that SONY may be trying to save face by not admitting that there is a market for FK stuff. If true this also applies to continuing in films. Suppose we make a point, in any letters, of emphasizing that licensing stuff for us to buy and/or film continuation will increase SONY's status by demonstrating their concern for the fans of their shows. Note: is Anne dealing with SONY US (or whatever the American subsidiary is called)? If so, the actual problem may not be just loss of face. It may be that someone *important* at TriStar axed FK for reasons we don't know. He/she would now be headed for trouble if SONY's higher-ups discover that the show does have a loyal, vocal and growing audience. English translation, whoever it was is about to get caught losing potential income for TriStar, a sin at least as important as losing face. <g> Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble." Chief Watcher for Cats, McGregor Lisa McDavid mcdavid-lisa@s....... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 06:17:55 -0700 From: Margie Gillis <margieg@e.......> Subject: Re: Slow servers and tired hamsters... At 12:16 AM 6/21/96 -0400, Lisa Patnaude wrote: >I think the hampsters are DEAD. I sent 2 posts to FORKNI-L 24 hours ago and >they still haven't dropped. Which makes me wonder why I'm posting this?! > Maybe they've replaced the dead hamsters finally. I sent a post to the list _36_ hours ago and still haven't seen it... Margie margieg@e....... Dark Knightie/Immortal Beloved/Unnamed ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:29:44 -0500 From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......> Subject: Re: *Nick and cures* Sandra wrote: >I am continually confused by this idea that Nick should have to "work" >for a cure. Why should this necessarily be so? Is it impossible for >there to be some "instant" type of cure out there for him to take? Well, sure, there might be an instant cure. But it's ironic, isn't it, to spend *years* searching for an "instant" cure ("1966")? Kind of doesn't make it "instant" anymore. Nick's been seen pursuing a lot of "instant" cures, and yet when Nat tries to put him on a long regimen of the "anti-vampire" diet, he lags. The garlic pills, the vitamin A pills, the sunbed, the no-no on blood... But he lapses. What if a long regimen of those things were to work, but he's too busy looking for "instant" cures to stay true to the course? If he put as much effort into the possible longer cures as he does into his instant cures... I personally have no problem with the idea of an instant cure. But I think what some people may be scoffing at is that Nick seems to equate being cured as being absolved. You have to work for absolution; you may not necessarily have to work for a cure. "You can take the boy out of the vampire, but you can't take the vampire out of the boy." We see in "Near Death" that he still has a lot of work to do -- and he's *surprised* by that! He's genuinely shocked that his soul is still the soul of a vampire! >This might not be a good analogy, but if someone is diagnosed with >breast cancer, isn't surgery of some sort an "instant" cure? It's not a good analogy. ;) No one asks for breast cancer. You aren't given a choice. To referrence ND again, Nick had a choice 768 years ago to either die as a mortal or live as a vampire. > Despite being brought up Catholic, he doesn't outwardly >condemn Gwynneth's religion and is, in fact, curious about it. "You cling to your paganism like lichen to a stone." Sounds like a put-down to me! ;) Personally, I kind of *like* that Nick looks for instant cures. When Janette calls him an "eternal boy" she about sums it up for me. He's rather innocent for being a undead creature of the night! I like that paradox. ****Wicked Cousin Tippi**** HEY! Want FK stuff? Sony needs to know that you want it! Contact Anne at TV_ShowStuff@p....... and TELL her NOW! :) "Poetry can be so deceiving." - LC in Baby, Baby ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 08:54:38 -0500 From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......> Subject: Hamster feed Hi guys, I have just sent part 8 of Breaking Dawn to Fkfic-l. From my informal survey I did get one 'yes' reply...so it did make it through the server. Since I'm not supposed to repost, if anyone wants a copy of Part 7, just e-mail me and I'll ship it to you. Sorry for the inconvenience. I think I'll ship some extra tasty, protein rich, chocolate flavored feed to PSUVM hamsters. Maybe they'll pay closer attention to my posts. <g> -- Carrie, Proud Knightie The Nurse is a hampster I finally had some sense knocked into me and I have the bump to prove it! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 09:26:04 -0500 From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......> Subject: was Re: Nick, Nat, and Janette At 01:43 AM 6/21/96 -0700, Amy R. wrote: >Ironically, I think that both Natalie and Janette have been in love with >Nick for some time.... I think Janette has often _thought_ she was in love with Nick. But, she left him during the Rennaissance and she left him again in the present day. She doesn't really have any desire to share life with him. Nick and Janette are very close brother and sister, who also happen to find each other to be very sexually attractive (understandably; they are both sexually attractive people). They get these feelings mixed up with feelings of being in love, so they get into a relationship with each other that doesn't last. Maybe incest doesn't really work any better for vampires than it does for humans. Margie (treeleaf@i.......) N&NPacker Cousin of the Knight ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:51:43 GMT From: "Jamie M.R." <immajer@n.......> Subject: Re: Slow servers and tired hamsters... On Jun 21, 1996 06:17:55, 'Margie Gillis <margieg@e.......>' wrote: >Maybe they've replaced the dead hamsters finally. I sent a post to the list >_36_ hours ago and still haven't seen it... I sent a couple of list posts to Forkni that NEVER showed up. Got confirmation notices from the listserv (I'm set to ACK, so I get an acknowledgement when I post. Useful.) but never actually saw the posts... Normally, when the lists slow up this way, it's because: 1) the lists are being held, due to volume or (rarely) listowner prerogative... if this is the case, when you post, you will get a notice telling you that the list is being held. (I checked. It wasn't.) Once a listowner frees the lists, all the posts come tumbling down... 2) there's a broken gateway somewhere between psuvm and the rest of the world... in which case, the mail is usually delayed, but shows up eventually. The fact that posts are actually disappearing into the ether fits neither of these scenarios. In other words: I don't know what's going on, either. And it's not for lack of trying. <g> -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......> Listmommy, Illustrated Webgoddess, Keeper of Warm Fuzzies Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Save FK - http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR The Truth Is Out There. And So Am I. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 21 Jun 1996 16:03:12 GMT From: "Jamie M.R." <immajer@n.......> Subject: Save FK Page Has Been Updated A couple days ago, I posted saying that I was working on the update... I never actually saw that post hit... ...well, the update is all but finished (one page I still have to write up, code & load; poke around, you'll find the spot <g>) and y'all might want to go check it out. This is more than a minor revision; I literally took down the old site and completely revamped it (pardon pun) -- so if you have any interior bookmarks to the site, they will no longer be valid. The site is a lot more coherent than it was, I think. There's more of a uniform 'style' throughout the site, and it should be easier to retrieve information. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure that I've forgotten and/or left out some of our current/ongoing efforts. As always, I appeal to YOU guys to go and check out the site, and tell me if there's any problems anywhere, or anything that I've missed. One notable addition is the ability to fill out Leslie's survey via a form on the page. It's all clicky-buttons and fill-in boxes and, y'know, neat stuff. :-) I swiped Dianne LaMerc's HTML source code & taught myself how to do forms (thank you, Mommy!) and I'm really pretty pleased with the result. It is, I believe, a Cool Thing; and if you haven't yet filled out the survey, you now have no excuse. Anyway, go and check out the page, and if you have any suggestions, send 'em to me... The URL is: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR This new, shorter URL will take you directly to the Save FK page. The old URL, which is: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html is STILL valid, and will REMAIN valid; it's a pointer-page leading to the other page. But now we have a URL that will actually fit comfortably into people's sig lines, not to mention being easier to format... BOTH urls will remain active on a permanent basis, so use whichever you feel more comfortable with. And I've submitted the new URL to the search engines, too. We're over 45,000 hits. The counter isn't spinning as fast as it was back in January, but... it's still spinning. So. Lemme know what you think of the page... -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......> Listmommy, Illustrated Webgoddess, Keeper of Warm Fuzzies Try not. Do... or do not. There is no try. Save FK - http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR The Truth Is Out There. And So Am I. =========================================================================
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