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Logfile LOG9605E Part 4

May 30, 1996

File: "FORKNI-L LOG9605E" Part 4

	TOPICS:
	Nick Knight:  The Video  (3)
	FK Soundtrack
	ADMIN: The clan FORKNI-L, of which I am Listmommy...  (3)
	<no subject>
	various
	Transcripts, anyone?
	The shape of a new FK?
	IRC clients?
	Episode Lists
	Hamsters
	YKYBTLBTLW....
	Expressing Love
	Gary Farmer sighting
	Listmommy is home!
	Instructions please.
	FK Surveys Status Report
	a Comment on Weight
	Name Questions
	FK CD ID Card
	FORKNI-L Digest - 30 May 1996 - Special issue
	Address change
	Flavors
	BB 1

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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 11:19:35 -0400
From:         Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick Knight:  The Video

Dann Lunsford <dann@g.......> said:

> I got my copy of "Nick
> Knight", the original Rick Springfield pilot.... [snip]....
> Not anywhere *near* as good as FK, but not altogether horrible,  Is this
> under spoiler protection?  Anybody know?

The spoiler rules only apply to episodes that haven't yet been
re-broadcast in syndication.  "Nick Knight" was broadcast in, what, 1989
or 1990?  It has been available on pro video for years now.  I find it
hard to imagine any reason for putting it under spoiler protection!

Besides, the plot and dialogue were virtually identical to "Dark Knight."
When they re-did the movie as "Dark Knight," they changed some characters,
hired new actors (mostly *vastly* superior actors), and moved it to
Toronto from LA.  The coroner became female.  And they got better music
(hi, Fred!).  The soundtrack for "Nick Knight" is hilarious, though,
since they play just about every 1980s song that has the word "night" in
it!  Oh, right, and they painted the Caddy.  ;^)

And they added the whole concept of flashbacks.  :^) :^)

Allison
percy91@w.......
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 11:33:22 -0400
From:         Becky Thomson <b.thomson5@g.......>
Subject:      FK Soundtrack

 > no one where I live knows of the Forever Knight sound track comming out.
 > Anyone know where I can find it?  I've already looked in all of the
 > music stores, but I can't seem to find it. Title? Performed by?

The "original Television Soundtrack" of Forever Knight, with "Music composed
and performed by Fred Mollin," "special guest appearanced by Geraint Wyn
Davies and Nigel Bennett," and vocals by Lori Yates, can be ordered from:
        GNP/Crescendo Record Co., Inc.
        8400 Sunset Blvd.
        Hollywood, CA  90069
        1-800-654-7029
 I believe the price is $12.95 plus shipping and handling


From: Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
 >>From:    Becky Thomson <b.thomson5@g.......>
 >>I would very much like to have the lyrics to all of the vocals on the
 >>Forever Knight Soundtrack CD.  I love singing along with all of them,

 > I am still waiting to hear from Fred Mollin on this - he said he doesn't
 > have time to type out the lyrics so I sent him the lyrics that I've
 > discerned so he could merely edit them.  I will remind him of this!

Thank you so much for your kind persistence, Marcia.  It surprises me that
there isn't a copy of the music available with the lyrics already listed.


QL Becky (b.thomson5@g.......) - Leader of the Genie Showbiz FK Chat
   Vaquera and Ravenette, with Cousinly Tendencies
   Gleeful Member of the Unnamed Faction
   "Ours is a very...special...relationship." (LaCroix to Nicholas)
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 11:10:25 -0500
From:         michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick Knight: The Video

At 11:19 AM 5/30/96 -0400, Allison Percy wrote:
>When they re-did the movie...they changed some characters, hired new actors,
>and moved it to Toronto from LA.  The coroner became female...got better music.
>Oh, right, and they painted the Caddy...and they added the whole concept of
>flashbacks.

With some minor editing I got it under four lines, but the point is still
there.

This is why a movie of Our Heroes could, I say _could_, be truly horrid.
Look at the things that they had to change to convert it to television.  I
can imagine that many of the same things, and lots of others, will be
changed in ways to horrible to imagine, for a full-blown movie.

Not that I'm against a movie, I wasn't against ST:Generations or the Fox
Doctor Who flick.  I just took it for granted that some things will be
disliked.

michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n.......
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 16:11:25 GMT
From:         The Illustrated Webgoddess <4evrnyte@n.......>
Subject:      ADMIN: The clan FORKNI-L, of which I am Listmommy...

On May 29, 1996 11:34:33, 'Antonia Spadafina <asginger@i.......>'
wrote:

>I thought this list was a family.  Now that the series is gone, are we
>disbanding our ties?  I've bragged to all my friends that the quality
>of the people on this list is amazing.  I'd hate to use that adjective
>in a negative sense, now.

Not as long as I'm around, baby.

I think that most of us are aware that in this playground, we do not smack
one another in the head with our plastic shovels whilst we play in the
sandbox, nor do we shove each other off the monkey bars.  We don't call
each other names; and there are no fat people, no thin people here, ONLY
PEOPLE.

In this playground, we shall Be Excellent To Each Other.

This is Rule Number One, taking precedence over long sigs and overquoting
and other such infractions; this is the Rule for which my preferred
response is to set violators to Nopost *instantly*, and quibble over
details later. No polite warning notices, for this is the Golden Rule which
EVERYONE should know.  And none of the Listmoms are going to tolerate that
sort of misbehavior... as you all will have noticed. :-)

So people, you might want to take an extra bit of care in posting, re-read
your messages to make sure that there isn't anything like a flame contained
therein... because flames will be doused quickly and thoroughly.  Period.



On May 28, 1996 17:52:15, 'Enclave Sysop
<raven@n.......>' wrote:


>The list certainly has become nit-picky since
>I was last active on it.  The main rule used
>to be that we should be kind to one another.
>Now you have to beware of the signature police

One must keep in mind that since you (and others) were last active on the
list, FORKNI-L has grown in number to something like a THOUSAND
listmembers; and that the mail volume has increased accordingly.
Therefore, each extra-long sig, each instance of over-quoting, adds to the
already heavy usage of bandwidth... and the more members we have, the more
the problem grows, so that the "signature police" are absolutely necessary.


Think of it this way.  If you park illegally in a left-turn lane, you stand
a good chance of being ticketed.  Why?  Because you're obstructing the flow
of traffic, and this is a Bad Thing.

And while I'm on the subject:  I would like to publicly thank Allison The
Babysitter for doing an *excellent* job while I was away... an' she didn't
even finish all the soda in the fridge.  Good work, woman. :-)   And let us
not forget Laurie aka SuperSalopek, who stepped in with cape swirling in
the breeze to defend truth, justice, and the FORKNI-L way...  so what if
she left the list locked up for a day and a half by mistake.  Must've been
a touch of kryptonite in the water.  These things happen.

Besides, it gave the hamsters some time off. ;-)

--
 -:-:-:-:- Jamie M.R. <immajer@n.......> -:-:-:-:-
 Asst. Listowner, The Smoking Natpacker, ConvCoS, NDNEDnik
-->>> Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies <<<--
** List Rules <http://cac.psu.edu/~jap8/FK/FKRules.html> **
The Truth Is Out There. Just maybe not in our jurisdiction.
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 09:40:14 -0500
From:         Robbi Egersdorf <egersdor@m.......>

SET FORKNI-L DIGEST
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 12:32:23 -0400
From:         "Cleindori (Dori)" <cleindori@g.......>
Subject:      various

Reply:  Item #2965904 from FORKNI-L@p.......@INET# on 96/05/28 at 17:00

Catching up...

Soembody said:
 > >:I have heard a lot of people on this list lately lament on how many people
 > >:have not seen or heard of FK.  >Let's just hope that the exposure on the
 > Sci Fi channel helps a little.

Well, the Sci-Fi exposure certainly helped Beauty and the Beast.  We had quite
a few people findthe show and get into the fandom from Skiffy, and you ask me
it was what saved the fandom, which was nearly fractured beyond hope, but I'm
not going to get into =that= riff, no, no, I am =not=... >8-(

Sandra said:
> Re: FK characters as animals,
  <snip>
 > and Vachon a black stallion

I can see that.  I can =definitely= see that.  And I'm going to be good, really
I am, and not finish that thought... <VBEG>


Dori
Vaquera, puro
Cleindori@g.......

>>>If you're going to walk on thin ice, you might as well dance.<<<
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 12:33:18 +0500
From:         John Folden <jtfolden@e.......>
Subject:      Re: ADMIN: The clan FORKNI-L, of which I am Listmommy...

> From: "The Illustrated Webgoddess" <4evrnyte@n.......>

> Besides, it gave the hamsters some time off. ;-)

Alright...I give up..I just have to ask...

I obviously joined late and missed something incredibly interesting but
what exactly is the fascination with hamsters concering FK?

I've seen them mentioned several times now and it's getting me very
curious....   :)


//----------------------------------------
// John T. Folden, a demented victorian
// lost in the DARK SHADOWS of an endless
// FOREVER KNIGHT...
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 10:07:57 -0700
From:         Marg Rothschild <margr@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Transcripts, anyone?

Hello all!

On Tue, 28 May 1996, MARG YAMANAKA wrote:

> First of all, would anyone have the slightest interest in reading them,
> if I wrote them?

I, for one, would love to get transcripts of shows - especially from 1st
and 2nd season episodes because they weren't captioned and this would
help me a great deal with the dialogue.

> Lastly, which ones should I start with?  I was thinking of Feeding the
> Beast myself, but I'm open to suggestions

That sounds good to me. :)

Marg Rothschild, Cousin/Dark Knightie/UF/FFFROGie: margr@i.......
AZ Crusaders of the Knight -
It's a private club, for VIPS and denizens of the night. - Nick Knight
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 10:09:18 PDT
From:         "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject:      The shape of a new FK?

michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n....... WROTE:
>Not that I'm against a movie, I wasn't against ST:Generations or the
>Doctor Who flick.  I just took it for granted that some things will be
>disliked.

I have always been a major ST fan (any) & I haven't seen ST:G yet..
maybe it's finally been played out.  And, Dr. Who was a gamble, in
my opinion.  Across the pond, different production ethics, & money-bias
experiment.  Not flaming it, just stating differences btwn them & FK
possibilities.

I envision a two-hour FK ep as TV movie.  One example is BBp1 & BBp2:
When I first saw this on USA, they ran both eps back-to-back the same
evening.  Even though both eps were produced as 1-hour eps, having both
shown at the same time was very satisfying.  I imagine any producers would
create an new FK as an actual 2-hour movie, though.  This has worked
fairly well (in MHO) for the Cagney & Lacey movies.  Now, in their case,
the series is long since over & the movies were several years later,
with the same actresses & characters real-time aged.

We wouldn't want to wait that long (for desire & actor availability's
sakes)!

For FK, we could have a 2-hour move 1-2 years from now, as a long,
stand-alone, yet in CANON/universe (plausible) episode... (a bridge, if
you will), to possibly more movies & hence (dare I wish it???) a new
season (if SOON enough).  What a build-up!  Can you imagine, SciFi
running Seasons 1 & 2 in 1997 while a movie is in production for late
1997 to satisfy OUR hunger?

Face it, we fans are all on PERMANENT FIRST HUNGER-mode for this show!
The hipe! The fan fever!, by the time any new FK is released could be
at the commercial-success level to convince even the most distracted
production/distribution companies!

It could happen, if we will it, wish it, work for it, believe in it...
and persist in all our efforts ENOUGH for it to happen.  Oh well, being
fiercely optimistic (w/the stubbornness of Natalie!) again.

Leslie
***FOREVER MEANS...FOREVER!!!***
N&NPacker/Knightie... Fiercely Optimistic & stubborn since birth
An FK (anything new; whatever it takes!) sort of gal
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 13:11:45 -0500
From:         Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject:      Re: IRC clients?

At 12:34 AM 5/29/96 -0400, SciFiMarci wrote:

>And I'm still waiting for a response to my questions about IRC clients!  Can
>someone help me out?  AOL has no direct IRC access, so I'm a newbie at this
>IRC stuff, though I've been on AOL three years.  So, what's an IRC client and
>where does one get one?

REPOST:

>From: Dirk Giles <dpgiles@n.......>
>Subject:      How to Get IRC on AOL (the Short Version)

>This is the short version on how to get to the IRC FK channels thru AOL.
>This assumes you already have an IRC client you want to use (mIRC is
>available thru AOL). For the long version, email me and be patient as
>we're beta testing our mail system.
>
>1. Download the AOL winsock.dll (KEYWORD: winsock) and put it in your
>Windows directory (usually c:\windows), renaming any existing
>winsock.dlls to temp files.
>
>2. Restart windows and logon to AOL.
>
>3. Run your IRC client.
>
>4. Set preferences for Real Name, email ID, and nicknames.
>
>5. Connect to either irc01.irc.aol.com (for Undernet) or
>irc02.irc.aol.com (for EFNET).  Both are port 6667.
>
>FOR MIRC users only:
>If you get the "unable to resolve local host" error, go into the mIRC
>setup area. Click on Local Info. There should be a Local Host listed. If
>there is no IP address, or if it is 0.0.0.0, then that is the problem.
>You can manually enter your IP address. Your IP address can be derived
>from the local host name. It would be 152. followed by the numeric
>portion of the local host name, repalcing the dashes with dots. So if
>the local host is something like:
>169-138-54.ipt.aol.com
>then your IP address is 152.169.138.54
>Then uncheck the boxes for On Connect, Get Local Host and IP address.
>Then try connecting again. it should work at this point.
>
>6. Once you have received the Message of the Day (MOTD), enter the
>command: /join #foreverknight
>
>7. You should be in!
>
>
>If you need a more detailed description or help, email me at:
>dpgiles@n....... from 8am to 5pm MDT.  I have a long version as well!
>
>Socrates - Faithful Raven
>IRC Nick - So-Krates
>(Dirk Giles - dpgiles@n.......)
FOREVER KNIGHT: Now showing on the SciFi Channel Mondays, 8pm, 12am EST
FOREVER KNIGHT SOS/FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Cousin*  *Vachon Ogler*  *MPPB* *MPEB* *XPhile*  *DMC*  *PWFC* *MFW Cavalry*
*Ambassador to the "Old Dude"*

***The Mother of Invention *had* to have been a single mother!***
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 17:19:19 GMT
From:         The Illustrated Webgoddess <4evrnyte@n.......>
Subject:      Re: ADMIN: The clan FORKNI-L, of which I am Listmommy...

On May 30, 1996 12:33:18, 'John Folden <jtfolden@e.......>' wrote:


>Alright...I give up..I just have to ask...

Oh, I cause more trouble this way...

>I obviously joined late and missed something incredibly interesting but
>what exactly is the fascination with hamsters concering FK?

The Forever Knight Internet Mailing Lists exist courtesy of the computers
and the Computer Deities at PSU.  And deep within the heart of those
computers, powering our Great and Mighty Listserv, are many many hamsters
running endless laps on tiny little treadmills.  I am absolutely convinced
of this.

Thus, we have the Sacred Hamsters of FORKNI-L. <g>


And I am going to mercifully refrain from mentioning the
more-properly-suited-for-JADFE thought that danced through my head when
first I saw this post.


--
 -:-:-:-:- Jamie M.R. <immajer@n.......> -:-:-:-:-
 Asst. Listowner, The Smoking Natpacker, ConvCoS, NDNEDnik
-->>> Illustrated Webgoddess & Keeper of Warm Fuzzies <<<--
** List Rules <http://cac.psu.edu/~jap8/FK/FKRules.html> **
The Truth Is Out There. Just maybe not in our jurisdiction.
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 13:19:37 -0400
From:         Melissa Carothers <Khayman32@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Episode Lists

Hi!  I am new to this list and would just like to say that I love the show
Forever Knight and have been taping it for a couple years now...  When I
could find out what time it was on.

I'm not sure what episodes I've missed, so I would like to know where I can
get a list of the episodes for each of the three seasons.  Any help would be
greatly appreciated.

I've been reading the mail all morning and all I can say is...   VACHON
FOREVER  =}
Reminds me of a Black Stallion too.  Like Sandra said.
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 12:38:57 EDT
From:         Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject:      Hamsters

There's a list joke that psuvm, the Penn State mainframe on which the
FK lists run, is powered by hamsters running on those little wheels.
When we get one of those times when the lists keep locking up or the
internet seems to be sending messages through a time warp, we blame
it on the hamsters. :)

What I want to know is, how did this get back to Bedard and Lalonde
in their blooper script? It includes a hamster reference.

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 13:25:35 -0500
From:         Annmarie McKee- Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBTLBTLW....

At 03:11 AM 5/29/96 -0400, Allison wrote:

>When I'm done with this job, can I go back to dreaming about my favorite
>FK actors, please?  ;^)

Only if you can dream in 4 minutes or less...<G> Thanks for the terrific job!

Susan: Thanks for the great updates! Congrats to all!

Jamie: Welcome back and nice post!

And thanks to Laurie too! ( my mailbox needed a break anyway! <G>)

A REQUEST:

Ahem! I've asked before and I'm gonna ask again...if you have anything
relevant that you would liek to share with your loop sisters and brothers,
it would be greaty appreciated if you would please CC it to me! I will
(finally) be returning to work and I could use the assitance of these posts
being directly sent to me.

The loop now has 628 people on it. These are 628 people that care, just as
much as we do, about bringing FK back! Any fun posts or posts about web
pages or affiliations are all appreciated!

Thanks very much!

Annmarie


FOREVER KNIGHT: Now showing on the SciFi Channel Mondays, 8pm, 12am EST
FOREVER KNIGHT SOS/FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
*Cousin*  *Vachon Ogler*  *MPPB* *MPEB* *XPhile*  *DMC*  *PWFC* *MFW Cavalry*
*Ambassador to the "Old Dude"*

***The Mother of Invention *had* to have been a single mother!***
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 10:11:49 -0700
From:         [Name removed by request]
Subject:      Re: Expressing Love

On Tue, 28 May 1996, Amy R. wrote:

> know she was dead.  The second time, to her ghost, she definitely heard
> him, because she responded, "Nicholas, I know that what you say is true.
> I love you still."

Too bad she was responding to his "I *did* love you". i wonder what made
him eventually leave that love behind.

[Name removed by request]

How can you trust someone who bleeds for 7 days and doesn't die? -BGW
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 14:45:50 -0300
From:         Stapleton <d7ux@u.......>
Subject:      Gary Farmer sighting

My morning started out with a CBC Radio interview with Paul Gross on
Morningside with Peter Gzowski. Not that I was in on the interview, but I
did tape it.

Then at lunchtime, I was watching CBC Midday. One of the guests on there
was Gary Farmer talking about his role as "Nobody" in the new movie with
Johnny Depp in "Dead Walk" (or something like that). Unfortunately, I
didn't have a video tape to record it.

Lynn Stapleton
d7ux@u.......
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 13:46:15 -0400
From:         Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject:      Listmommy is home!

Jamie the Listmommy is back!  The babysitter is taking her virtual $1.00
per hour (hey, it's been a long time since I babysat) and heading home.
Too bad you can't spend virtual money virtually anywhere.  ;^)

The celebration of a cyber-acheivement:

  Question:  "So, Allison, you've just survived one week as the FK
              List Babysitter.  Now what are you going to do?"

  Answer:    "I'm going to http://www.disney.com!"

And I think I'll set myself to DIGEST mode and lurk for a bit.
<waving to all the lurkers>

ObFK:  After watching "Nick Knight" again, in which Rick's Nick
says the 1959 Caddy has the most trunk space of any car manufactured
in the last 30 years, and "Dark Knight," in which Ger's Nick says
it's the 1962 Caddy, I can't help but wonder what car can *really*
lay claim to that title.  It's probably an Oldsmobile.  <g>

Thanks to all listmembers for your support!  You're the best!  :^)
And just in case anyone was wondering:  take it from me, Jamie is a
*saint* for being full-time Listmommy.  She must be.  Really.

    __o                      Allison (percy91@w.......)
  _`\<,_                    Bike Patrol for the Signature Police
 (*)/ (*)   http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 14:20:56 -0400
From:         Melissa Carothers <Khayman32@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Instructions please.

If I want to put a post up on the list, do I just hit the reply all button
and write.  I've tried that, but received no response.

Please help
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 11:26:50 PDT
From:         "Leslie I.Plummer" <lplummer@i.......>
Subject:      FK Surveys Status Report

Great response for the FK Viewers' Poll & FK Merchandise survey,
thus far!  Keep them coming!  Pls send them to me at
"lplummer@i.......".  If you need a copy, please send me private
email & I'll be happy to send them to you.  Please also feel free to
print them & hand out to your FK non-list/Internet friends.  There's
a snailmail address on the form.

Please help make our collective voice LOUDER to The Powers That Be
(TPTB).  I'm collecting surveys till June 26.  Then, hope to have
tabulated results out on or about July 1.  NOW is the time to reply!

INTERNATIONAL RESPONSES WELCOMED!  Nice list-sister Julie (Knightgal)
& her father volunteered to translate the surveys forms into German,
in the hopes that I can relay it to & include the German audience.
Translated forms should be ready next week.

 (p.s List-elders... do you have contacts for the German fan club(s)?
  I tried accessing them on Internet & got a message that their
  address changed, but it didn't give new address.  I also, don't know
  where German broadcasting is in the FK seasons cycle (did they also
  just finish season 3?)  Is this applicable to them?  I seek your
  guidance before acting on this. RSVP... Thx!)

LURKERS! NEW FOLKS!  Please participate in this effort.  Silence is
NOT golden in this case & Your Opinion Counts!  Address privacy assured!
I will release only the statistics (i.e. "of nnn surveyed, nn%
said/indicated xxx result to yyy question", etc.), not people's
individual info.  Names, email address, etc. will not be released
without prior written permission, to ANYONE.

WE SEE EVIDENCE OF WHEELS IN MOTION, ALREADY!
If you've been reading the lists of the past week, you've seen interest
from SONY Showstuff, SciFi, and even nice comments from James Parriott,
etc.  ANY potential, eventual results are obviously in the
"behind-the-scenes" stage right now.  We don't yet know how effective
we are!  We musn't give up or relent!  (Have faith!)

These surveys are just another way to make our voice manifest & get
the message across to TPTB.  I hope to work w/listmommie JamieMR,
list-babysitter Allison Percy, FANFIC-webgoddess Susan Garrett,
SOS-FK address-keeper Karen Tobin, & ANY other keepers of our favorite,
SAVE FK projects, lists, & websites to offer this summarized info for
use on our FK-wide behalf.

Thanks for participating.  Please email me if you have any questions.

p.s. Keep writing/emailing/faxing/paper-crane folding/speaking
w/whomever you wish about Forever Knight!  Write the stations which
bring it to you, the networks, the cable companies, the advertisers,
Fred & the folks at Crescendo, possible FK merchandisers, new fans,
future fans, anyone!  (Say only NICE things & be persistent in your
requests, so TPTB will want our "business" in the future SO much,
they'll give us what we want!)

The ONLY failure is if we keep silent & let despair reign.

Leslie
***FOREVER MEANS...FOREVER!!!***
N&NPacker/Knightie... Fiercely Optimistic & stubborn since birth!
An FK (anything new; whatever it takes!) sort of gal
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 14:30:29 -0400
From:         Tigon Diana Hooker <TeigrLlew@a.......>
Subject:      Re: a Comment on Weight

In a message dated 96-05-30 09:10:23 EDT, you write:

>Presently residing in a cave in the Valley of Kings with Emerson and
>Peabody....

Yes! The new hardcover?

Tigon the Bouncing Tigger and Lone Woof at Large
Woofpack w/ strong Knightie, N&N, and FoSiL tendencies
"What time is it? What day is it? What century is it?"
TeigrLlew@a....... (Tigon Diana Hooker)
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 13:07:54 -0500
From:         John & Donna Spert <jjs@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Name Questions

On Tue, 28 May 1996, Raissa Devereux wrote:
> You is Denise, but what is her last name? Second, what is the name of
> Nick's murdered mortal accountant in Blood Money? The one whose son wanted
> the Du Brabant fortune.

The murdered accountant's name was:  Charles Du Champs.

On a related note, after rewatching Blood Money, it looks to me like the
son was an embezzler who walked.  After his father said he wouldn't pay
off his gambling debts, we hear him tell the croupier "There's more where
that came from", as his father is walking to his death.  And the initial
meeting between Sean and Felix Twist seemed too cordial for a blackmail
scheme.  Sean's reaction to Felix's request for half the DuBrabant money
seemed more indignant, more "we had a deal", than "you've squeezed as
much out of me as I'll allow".  Not to mention that Sean wouldn't have to
steal the entire DuBrabant account to pay his debt.

Does anyone else feel that Sean was at best an embezzler and at worst a
willing accomplice to his father's murder?  Geez, Schanke even shook his
hand...

John
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 13:27:47 -0500
From:         John & Donna Spert <jjs@i.......>
Subject:      Re: FK CD ID Card

On Wed, 29 May 1996, Deborah Sandine wrote:
> I got my Forever Knight CD last week, and have been listening to it fairly
> solid for a week now -- I love it, especially Lori Yates. <snip>
> in, they have Nick's Identification Card, and on it his Department is written
> as "314 Homocide." Is this blatant misspelling of homicide just a case of

We had to check, and sure enough, there it is.  Donna says that the
"homo" part is short for "homogenized" and is a subtle reference to the
cows that died that Nick might live.  :-)

John and Donna
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 14:50:02 +0200
From:         katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......>
Subject:      Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 30 May 1996 - Special issue

oh people, I am so very, very, very, very happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I got home today and checked my mail. I only got one thing, it was from
my cable company, telling me that starting july 1, I get comedy central
and the sci-fi chanel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh happy birthday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My birthday is july 1, and I am so happy.
Multimedia had anounced these changes in `1994. even put down severel
million dollors worth of fiber optics in this towns system(which our city
governement paid for). and when they
announced the news that they were adding all these new channels, they
said "sorry chickasha, we put the wrong cables down, so you'll never get
the sci-fi channel, that is, *unless* you give us several more million
dollars"
well, we didn't, we held our ground, and when the war was declared on tci
another smaller war was called on multimedia. and we won.
a small victory for vanques everywhere
katrinka
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 12:59:10 -0700
From:         Jerimi Paul <paul9454@u.......>
Subject:      Address change

The university is doing something strange, and I'm going to lose this
account.  My old address here will no longer be valid after June 1.  So,
until I find out what the new one is, I can be reached at:
paul9454@n.......  if I'm lucky.  ;)  Thanks!  I'll be off the
list for a while as a consequence, so I'll see you guys soon.

-Jerimi--->paul9454@r.......
Reluctant Vaquero
Grinning Cousin
Would that she were a less annoying hamster.
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 15:03:15 -0500
From:         "J.S. Levin" <wabbit@e.......>
Subject:      Re: Flavors

Caroline Nachman asked:
>with the great propensity of the human race  [of which i consider vampires
>an odd sub-group] to spice up any food <snip> what does [Knight] flavor it
>with? <snip> the show gives no indication at all.

Actually, Caroline, it does.  Alcohol of the drinking variety is used.
Probably both wine and harder liquor, although that's not exactly gone into
in detail.  I could see where it would work, and be an esthetic decision
(dry wine or sweet?  Scotch? Tequila? Brandy?).  However, I suspect that the
major "flavoring" of blood is hormonal.  Further discussion of this would be
a spoiler, and I don't know if Caroline's on FKSPOILR, so I'll leave it at
that.

However, being as I don't believe vampires can really ingest human food
successfully, I seriously doubt they would use "mortal" flavorings -- at
least, not *directly* <EG>.

Storm (Vaquera, Scrapper, Gangrel)
wabbit@e....... (J.S.Levin/Stormsinger)
Their canon met my imagination and was outgunned.
If you practice being fictional, you discover that "characters"
are as real as people with bodies and heartbeats...
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 16:17:48 -0400
From:         Beth Brown <BKBVA@a.......>
Subject:      BB 1

In a message dated 96-05-30 09:09:02 EDT, Marcia Tucker wrote:

>Oblig FK:  So, what year did the Titanic go down?  I'd forgotten that Nick
>munches on Claire Gibson in the *first* flashback of the Titanic from 'Black
>Buddha" - is this another one of those 20th century kills we're supposed to
>pretend isn't against continuity?

Well, the Titanic went down in 1912, so yes.

Of course, didn't we just recently have a discussion as to whether we think
he killed her, or was just having a nightmare?  And I, for one, haven't made
up my mind yet.  (So, sue me if you think I'm crazy).

Beth
bkbva@a.......
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Date:         Thu, 30 May 1996 13:16:18 -0800
From:         Dann Lunsford <dann@g.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick Knight:  The Video

In <199605301524.IAA13668@n.......>, on 05/30/96 at 11:19 AM,
   Allison Percy <percy91@w.......> said:

>The spoiler rules only apply to episodes that haven't yet been
>re-broadcast in syndication.  "Nick Knight" was broadcast in, what, 1989
>or 1990?  It has been available on pro video for years now.  I find it
>hard to imagine any reason for putting it under spoiler protection!

Heh.  Just wanted to be absolutely sure; I didn't want the ListGoddess
heaving a thunderbolt my way! :-)

BTW, 1989.

>Besides, the plot and dialogue were virtually identical to "Dark Knight."
[snip]
>characters, hired new actors (mostly *vastly* superior actors)
You've got *that* straight!
[snip]
> And they got better
>music (hi, Fred!).
I just got the FK CD.  All I can say is *WOW*!

>  The soundtrack for "Nick Knight" is hilarious,
>though, since they play just about every 1980s song that has the word
>"night" in it!
I think they missed Bonnie Tyler's ""Faster Than the Speed of Night", but
that's about it.  Or did that come out after?  Sheesh, after *mumble*
years, you start to lose track... :-)

I thought the facial bone structure changes when vamped out were a little
much; Springfield looked like a squirrel on steroids.  Glad they gave that
aspect up...

>And they added the whole concept of flashbacks.  :^) :^)

Hmm... 1989...let me think.....

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* dann@g....... * is that men of good will do nothing.  --  Cicero *
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