FORKNI-L
Logfile LOG9605E Part 1
May 27-May 28, 1996
File: "FORKNI-L LOG9605E" Part 1
TOPICS:
FK on SFC (4)
Chocolate Pizza
No FK on Sci-Fi????
No FK on Sci-Fi? Ooops...
New Actors for FK characters
thnaks but no thanks
Adieu, Nicola...
a Comment on Weight (7)
Hopkins as LaCroix? Heck no!
LaCroix and Stoicism (2)
Night in Question
Nightcrawler Monologues
Tape available
Memories
Help!!!
Forever Knight Who?
FORKNI-L Digest - 27 May 1996
I Need The First & Second Seasons!
New affiliation
Use of Lora Haines' name
We don't do personal comments (2)
Finally, IT Arrives & The "Ancient Past" of th
Black Buddha - In a new light (some light LK spoilers)
People Behind the Characters
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 20:29:54 -0800
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK on SFC
Carrie,
Come on now, woman--what were the other shows Scifi mentioned to you?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Barbara
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 21:50:53 -0700
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: FK on SFC
On Mon, 27 May 1996, Muldy Sculler wrote:
> Carrie,
> Come on now, woman--what were the other shows Scifi mentioned to you?
> Inquiring minds want to know.
> Barbara
Let me guess: it was DRACULA and FRIDAY THE 13TH: THE SERIES. Am I right?
Seriously, gang, don't forget that part one of Black Buddha is on
*tomorrow* (Tuesday) night, instead of tonight because of the holiday.
And I would really encourage everyone, whether they get SciFi or not, to
write them a thank you note (tell them you're pressuring your cable
system to get SciFi *because* they're carrying FK--and do it!).
They have a suspicion we're out here, or they wouldn't carry the show.
Let them know for *sure*.
A public service announcement from
Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 22:01:58 -0700
From: Sherri <sherric@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK on SFC
On Mon, 27 May 1996, Valery King <kingv@u.......> wrote:
>Seriously, gang, don't forget that part one of Black Buddha is on
>*tomorrow* (Tuesday) night, instead of tonight because of the holiday.
And - the SciFi channel is doing voice-overs on the movie to tell people
that FK is on tomorrow night, not tonight! This is much nicer than the
stations I've watched FK on for the past several years - they moved FK
without notice or warning.
Sherri sherric@e....... Founding Member, SFKS
Save FK: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 01:34:31 -0400
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re; Chocolate Pizza
Lindy Cooksey <l.cooksey@g.......> writes...
> Someone mentioned last week that there were substitues for the cheese
>called for in the recipe. I'm looking for suggestions as to what would be a
>good one to use. Help anyone?
Well, I cooked that chocolate pizza on Sunday night, but I didn't have
mascarpone cheese, so I used ricotta instead (ricotta is somewhat easier to
get than mascarpone). However, as I am of the understanding that ricotta is
not as sweet than mascarpone, I bought sweet milk chocolate instead of
bittersweet.
Also, instead of nuts, I used "chopped up" raspberries (yummy). Finally,
instead of merely putting the cheese on the pizza, then topping with the
chocolate, raspberries, and bananas, I decided to *mix* the cheese, chocolate,
raspberries and bananas together _before_ putting them on the pizza.
All in all, the pizza was great, although _much_ bigger than the picture in
the TV Guide!
Many thanks to my extra special dinner guest / taste tester (you know who you
are! :-) I couldn't/wouldn't have done it without you!) for putting up
with my eccentric cooking conversation, my frequent and somewhat shocking
yelps of pain whenever I managed to ever-so-slightly slice my thumb on the
"chocolate" grater, not to mention the fact that it took me forever to make
the darned thing! :-)
Cheers,
Cousin Will, definitely showing his FoDly tendencies...
P.S. : That thumb is healing quite nicely. :-) Next time, I think that I'll
use Quik (!) instead of grating the #%&&% chocolate myself! :-) OUCH!!!!
---
Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i....... - "Neil Hull is GOiD"
Publisher & Managing Editor, The New Edition (U of T); Nu '96, Psi Upsilon
Ontario Area Coordinator, FREE (http://www.vix.com/free)
If possession is 9/10 of the law, what's the other 1/10? - Steeves' Laws Vol. I
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 01:36:56 -0400
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: No FK on Sci-Fi????
Not having ready access to the web, I can't check for myself...
FK was on at 8pm and Midnight on Monday nights... I know this was a
holiday, but I just checked in to see which ep was running, and
THERE'S NOTHING THERE - well, yea, there is, but it's called "Orca"
<making face> Just what I wanted at half-past midnight, a killer
whale movie. Yech.
Can someone fill me (and the rest of the list, if they haven't
already) in on what's going on? If Sci-Fi is going to show reruns,
WHEN are they going to show them?
Thanks!
Tammy
Nightmist@g.......
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 01:37:09 -0400
From: "Tammy Pond [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: No FK on Sci-Fi? Ooops...
Now I read the posts... Sorry about the false alarm, I picked up my
mail after I sent the last post, and nothing was said in the last
batch that I had. Oh well, I shoulda grabbed before I spazzed, I
guess.
Sigh...
Tuesday, huh? I'll have to remember that...
Tammy
Nightmist@g.......
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 02:56:15 -0400
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Re: New Actors for FK characters
Here is the Really Stupid Network Executive's Re-casting of Forever Knight:
Nick - Brian "Kato" Kaelin
Lacroix - Leslie Neilsen
Natalie - Jack Klugman
Janette - Rosie O'Donnell
Schanke - Bob the Baker from the Dunkin Donuts ads
Tracy - Tori Spelling
Vachon - Adrian Zmed
Police Captain - William Shatner as Capt. T.J. Hooker
Urs - Drew Barrymore
Screed - Richard Moll
-- Allison Percy (percy91@w....... -or- AlliePercy@a.......) --
-- Perky List Babysitter - Knightie - Bunny - Not a Network Executive --
- *Free* copy of list rules! http://cac.psu.edu/~jap8/FK/FKRules.html --
-------------------------- Rule #1: BE NICE! --------------------------
---------- "Does your Mommy know you're reading this stuff?" ----------
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 03:31:57 -0400
From: Stephanie Way <Biancaswan@a.......>
Subject: thnaks but no thanks
Gee I haven't been on this list more than a week and already I'm being
scolded by the listowner (Allie?) for offering an opinion.
I got the impression, from being on the list some time ago, that this was a
friendly list but I guess not. I'll keep my mouth shut from now on. I get
enough abuse to my self-esteem in my real life.
SW
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 03:23:05 PDT
From: Enclave Sysop <raven@n.......>
Subject: Adieu, Nicola...
Hi, folks.
It's been many moons since I last showed my beak
on this list... many commitments have occupied my
time elsewhere... yet I still watched FK as I have
since the show first aired.
I'm afraid this last season is to "Forever Knight"
what *Highlander 2* was to *Highlander* ("There should
only have been *one*.") In the case of FK, the producers
messed with the chemistry that had worked among the
characters in the previous seasons, going so far as
to kill off major characters one after another. Now,
with the apparent deaths of the two remaining major
characters of Nick and Natalie (though Lacroix remains,
quite true), it seems the FK production staff has nailed
the final stake deep into the heart of the show, in
essense saying, "Let's see them resurrect it *this* time."
On the subject of the still UnDead and kickin' Lacroix...
well, I can't see a spin-off show featuring just this
one character, can you? Besides which I don't think
many of us could have stood one more episode staring
at the that terrible, thick eye makeup on Nigel Bennett.
Tammy Faye was beginning to get some stiff competition.
I could say more, things about the deaths of Schanke
and Janette, too, but why bother? Either this last
season was a Bobby Euwing-Dallas dream, or the FK
staff suddenly stopped caring about the show.
I, for one, prefer to pretend that this last season
never happened.
Rest in Peace and Syndication, "Forever Knight."
-- Raven (Dean)
P.S. Baycon'ers -- did y'all have an FK party this year?
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Raven@n....... -- "The Enclave" -- +1 408 336-0610
The System Ninja(tm) is an equal-opportunity
techno-druid and system guru. Accept no substitutes;
always look for the union label.
Ritualistic blood offerings void where inhibited.
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:32:42 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Re: a Comment on Weight
Personally, being a bodybuilder, I don't buy into the notion that
one has to be "fat" to represent peoples' "desire" for a more
"voluptuous"character.
I was once 170 pounds and can therefore attest to what I am about
to propose, without the possibilities of backlash.
Catherine Disher is fat. Period. AND Ger WYN-Davies is no
longer the vestige of youthful physical prowess he used to
represent.
Certainly, then, they complement each other on the show.
HOWEVER, one can be fit and trim without perfection. You all seem
to endow this concept of polar extremes: either one is Pamela
Anderson, or one is Rosanne Barr.
Neither is true. The average woman in America is 5'4 inches and
144 pounds. I happen to be 25 pounds lighter than the average woman,
but that does not exempt me from suffering inperfections.
I have a fat butt and fat thighs.
I would like to see a fit, trim, flawed woman play Natalie. One
that represents the self-discipline to attain a level of athleticness,
but also who isn't a manifestation of cosmetic surgery and silicone
implants. A natural woman.
I have a feeling that people on this list justify themselves through
Disher's character. As a good friend of mine on the weight list
put it: "No excuses. Shut up and train."
If it makes you feel better that Disher hasn't found time to exercise
so be it.
But I don't buy it, not for a second.
From a former fat person,
Tanya
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:35:13 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: Hopkins as LaCroix? Heck no!
Nigel IS Lacroix, Period.
There will be no accepted substitutions.
Cousin Tanya and a member of the Unamed
Occasionally a Dark Knightie upon request
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:49:09 EDT
From: Tanya Smith <bodybldr@v.......>
Subject: LaCroix and Stoicism
No, Lacroix is not stoic. I seem him as a cynical nihilist. There
is too much damnation and negativity in his monologues for stoicism.
You could say he's a realist, I suppose.
Tanya
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:14:37 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Re: a Comment on Weight
Tanya,
People's reasons for liking a ... fluffier... Nat are just as valid as your
liking a fitter trimmer Nat. Personally, I don't care one way or the other.
But for you to flame both Catherine and the list because you don't agree
with their personal philosophies is unfortunate.
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"We have a very special relationship." - LC to NK, NiQ
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:21:01 -0500
From: TippiNB <Tippinb@i.......>
Subject: Night in Question
Sandra wrote on the spoiler list, but there are no longer any spoilers, so I
moved it here:
>I don't think they made it clear that they made love in Night in
>Question (which is the amnesia ep). I didn't think they did myself.
I was wondering about that myself. I rewatched it last night and Nat says
"We can't be together." Nick says, "What about last night?" Now do they
mean together, or *together*? ;)
Is this ep out of spoiler protect? I think so... I shall mosey it on down
to the regular list.
Wicked Cousin Tippi, dollar bill wrangler of the Thong Throng!
*Founding Member of the Unnamed Faction*Voyeur of the Menage LaCroix*
"We have a very special relationship." - LC to NK, NiQ
Wickedness Site! http://www.netcom.com/~tippinb/wicked.html
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:29:47 -0500
From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......>
Subject: Re: FK on SFC
Muldy Sculler wrote:
>
> Carrie,
> Come on now, woman--what were the other shows Scifi mentioned to you?
> Inquiring minds want to know.
> Barbara
The New Dark Shadows, beginning in June, and Friday 13th: The Series.
:)
Carrie
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:37:48 -0400
From: Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@t.......>
Subject: Nightcrawler Monologues
Hey all! This is going to sound like a weird question, but I need to
know...in what episode did LaCroix first broadcast from CERK, and does
anyone have a list of the episodes that he's done monologues in? Thanks!
Dona Katya
* Raven * X-Phile * Vaquera * SKLed * V-Team Leader of the Cold Shower
Sisterhood * Historian of the Menage LaCroix * Kitchen Beavis * VV
Grace *
Euch Wird Mountain Dew aus der Nase Sprudeln!
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:44:32 -0400
From: Lisa Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: Re: a Comment on Weight
Hello Tanya:
You wrote:
>Personally, being a bodybuilder, I don't buy into the notion that
>one has to be "fat" to represent peoples' "desire" for a more
>"voluptuous"character.
As a step aerobics instructor and fitness professional, I might
mention that there is a very, very BIG difference between being
"fat" or "thin" and being "FIT." One does not need to be thin in
order to be fit. One does not need to be a bodybuilder in order to
be fit. I would go as far as to say that I know some bodybuilders
who are truly UNhealthy in their lifestyle and diet.
>I was once 170 pounds and can therefore attest to what I am about
>to propose, without the possibilities of backlash. Catherine
>Disher is fat. Period.
Excuse me, but you can't expect not to have a backlash after a
statement like that unless you happen to be privy to Ms. Disher's
dietary habits, weight and training schedule. One does not need to
be a bodybuilder or a fitness instructor in order to be a healthy,
fit person. Also, one does not need to be a size 6 to be healthy.
The average woman is between a size 10 and a size 14. Are you
implying that Ms. Disher is above a size 14? If so, you need to
take another look. While she may not be as "thin" as Deb Duchene,
she is by no means "fat." As a fitness instructor, I spend more of
my time deconstructing the damage that comments like yours do to a
person's self-esteem than I care to remember.
>HOWEVER, one can be fit and trim without perfection.
One also can be, and usually is, fit without being "trim." Trim
has become the '90s word for thin. I repeat, thin and trim do not
*necessarily* equal fit and healthy. There are some people who are
in great physical health who will never be "trim."
>I would like to see a fit, trim, flawed woman play Natalie. One
>that represents the self-discipline to attain a level of
>athleticness,
I'm sorry, but unless she goes running around in spandex and a tank
top, how are you supposed to know if she's fit and trim (i.e. has
muscular definition)? I have extremely muscular legs and you
certainly can't tell that when I'm wearing pants. If anything,
people would think my legs were heavy, not muscular.
>A natural woman.
Interesting choice of words -- a natural woman doesn't spend four
or five hours a day in the gym. She eats healthy and exercises in
moderation.
>I have a feeling that people on this list justify themselves
>through Disher's character. As a good friend of mine on the
>weight list put it: "No excuses. Shut up and train."
And I ask again, how would you know that Ms. Disher doesn't train
(this word should be exercise, of course)? Are you privy to her
personal life? Do you know what she does every day all day long?
>If it makes you feel better that Disher hasn't found time to
>exercise so be it.
See above.
From a fitness professional who was truly sickened to see a
message like this,
Lisa
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:49:06 -0500
From: Carrie Krumtum <carriek@e.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix and Stoicism
Tanya Smith wrote:
> No, Lacroix is not stoic. I seem him as a cynical nihilist. There
> is too much damnation and negativity in his monologues for stoicism.
> You could say he's a realist, I suppose.
> Tanya
Yeah, but in who's reality? I've often thought of LaCroix as a
utilitarian with a mischievious streak. Morals aside, if he has a use
for you, he uses you. Makes life a little more straightforward, as
vampire life goes. I just rewatched Undue Process and the falshback is
priceless: "You do entertain me, Nicholas."
:)=
Carrie, Proud Knightie
carriek@e.......
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 09:06:18 -0400
From: Lisa Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: Re: a Comment on Weight
Opps. Sorry everybody. That last message from me was supposed to
go directly to Tanya. My deepest apologies to all members of the
list and the list guardians.
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 06:37:46 -0700
From: Desiree Flaten <desij@p.......>
Subject: Re: Tape available
I wouldn't mind getting the Last Knight tape if no one else has beaten me to
the punch. <g>
- Desi
>I have 2 tapes available for the first person to respond. All I ask is
>$6.50 per tape ($3 tape, $3 postage, .50 mailer).
>
>One tape has Jane Doe and Francesca and the other had Last Knight. Both
>were taped SP direct from the SciFi channel. These are not copies.
>Otherwise I'll tape over them and I almost hate to do that.
>
>Siona@n.......
>Dark Knightie! and proud member of the Unnamed Faction
>Help save Forever Knight! see http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/
>Watch Forever Knight - SciFi Channel Mon. at 8PM and Tue. 12AM EST.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 09:54:00 EDT
From: L M <LMS5@p.......>
Subject: Memories
Believe it or not (and PLEASE don't faint).. "Memories" is DONE. As in...
"FINISHED" as in, "I LIKE THIS VERSION", as in "SOMEONE SHOT ME IF I DECIDE
TO CHANGE SOMETHING.. *AGAIN*" :-)
You can find it on the FTP Site.
ftp to ftp.cac.psu.edu and it is in pub/people/lms5/fkgifs/Fan_Art
ENJOY!
Laurie
(lms5@p.......)
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 09:50:07 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Help!!!
>>Could somebody please send me the list of the titles of the all the shows
>>for all three seasons with the order that they were filmes and aired.
>Once more with feeling, the address where this can be found is,
>http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html
Well no, not really. The second season episodes are listed in filmed
order, not aired order, and the air date information isn't there with a
lot of the episode descriptions for second season. One of the biggest
differences between the filmed order and the aired order is that Crazy
Love was filmed around the middle of the second season, but aired where
I live at the end of the season. I think that's true for some other
places also, but I don't know whether it was typical or not.
The address above, nevertheless, _is_ a real good address to start your
Forever Knight internet surfing from. But I've never been able to find
a definitive answer on air dates for second season episodes.
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:07:38 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight Who?
>:I have heard a lot of people on this list lately lament on how many people
>:have not seen or heard of FK.
>Let's just hope that the exposure on the Sci Fi channel helps a little.
Don't forget word of mouth! Even if you hate having to hear people say,
"I never heard of it," once you've mentioned it to them, they have heard
of it. They may not watch it right away, but hearing about it is the
first step. Where I live, it's gotten to the point that when I mention
Forever Knight, a lot of people have at least heard of it. The more
different people they hear mentioning it, the more likely they are to
give it a try. Remember, there are plenty of fans where ever you live
that you have never met. If you mention Forever Knight to someone today,
someone else may mention Forever Knight to that same person tomorrow.
Word of Warning! - Whatever complaints you may have about Forever Knight,
when you're trying to get new people interested in the show, that is *not*
the time to mention them. Stick to what you like about the show.
Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:37:02 -0400
From: "Meredith E. Pickering" <Plan2@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 27 May 1996
I think I'm still laughing over this one:
YKYBWTM Forever Knight when:
A new club opens in Providence, RI... it is located on an old street with
lots of brick buildings... it is called THE RAVEN!!!
P.S. - Any RI/MA contingent up for a fieldtrip to check the place out? I
don't think I can resist: I want a matchbook/napkin/menu/ something from the
place!!
Meredith
Natpacker, Dracpacker
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 11:37:59 -0400
From: Beth Washington <Beth_Washington@a.......>
Subject: I Need The First & Second Seasons!
Greetings to you all!
I am back on the list (been on the spoiler list all along) and was
wondering if anyone of you devoted Forever Knight fans could help me
out.
I am looking for the first 2 seasons of Forever Knight. I became a fan
this season (thus I have all of the third season on tape), and have not
seen the first two seasons.
To minimize tapes (though not absolutely necessary), I would like it if
someone could make tapes of all of the episodes (hopefully in order
including the pilot episode "Dark Knight"), atSPL, fittly 7 episodes on
a tape (minus ending credits). If possible, I would like the Canadian
first season esisodes for the extra tidbits! =)
I know this is alot to ask, and of course I am willing to pay for the
tapes and the shipping of course, but I will be forever grateful!
Please email me privately!
-Biffer
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This is good. Beth Washington
This is real good! Quality Assurance Engineer
-Tempus Avid Technology, Tewksbury, MA
from Lois & Clark Beth_Washington@a.......
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 08:47:00 PT
From: Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......>
Subject: New affiliation
See my .sig
I have been persuaded to add a new affiliation. Thank You Allison.
Tami LaFrank : TCL58@a....... or TCL20@a.......
Ravenette, IB, MSBtk, McGregor (I am *NOT* a Bunnie.), Mai Tai Mistress
: Owner: Sacred Raven Health Spa
We have enough youth, how about: "Come in, relax. We're dying
a fountain of *smart*? : to prolong your life"
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 09:31:30 -0700
From: Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: a Comment on Weight
Can we all agree NOT to make personal comments about the actors and this
subject? We only narrowly avoided a flamewar some months back over this,
and I'd hate to see such contention just when we should all be pulling
together.
ObFK:
Watch BB part one tonite on SciFi! I plan on re-living our and Tracy's
first meeting with good ol' Vachon and Screed and think of some happier
times. Once, of course, I get past the unhappiness of the loss of Schanke
and Cohen. Then I'm gonna email SciFi and thank them for showing the program.
--Valery
kingv@u.......
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:44:12 -0400
From: Linda Simon <lsimon@h.......>
Subject: Use of Lora Haines' name
Hi folks. Remember I am fairly new, and still catching up--quickly, thanks
to so many of you. I have been interested in the opinions of whether the use
of Lora's name was a dig or what. As to the negative views, I defer to those
of you who have a history of interaction with TPTB. I accept that it is
quite probable that a little dark humor went into the decision to use her
name for that particular doomed character. On the other hand....
In recent weeks, having just discovered that an FK fan club exists right
here in the Boston-Cambridge area (duh), I made contact with Lora Haines,
Pauletta Ridout and others who publish a newsletter that everyone but me
must already receive. I asked Lora what she thought, and she said the use of
her name was a compliment. The production people and two lead actors she
talked to conveyed it that way to her, and she is thrilled.
At the Last Knight party this past Saturday, I mentioned that some postings
indicated that the naming was an insult to her or to all the fans, and Lora
confirmed that she did not see it that way, and was indeed flattered. She
said she would get around to posting her opinion to the lists, but as I have
not seen anything from her yet, I post this info in the meantime.
We had a blast at the party. Weird humor prevailed, and we set up Lora as
Laura in the bathtub, adorned with bleeding bandages...and we took pix.
The Boston-area fan club seems to be a great group. Everyone was cheerful
and chocolate-loving.
Linda Simon, NatPacker and chocolatiere
"I know you're just a figment of my imagination, but please stop sneaking
up on me."
Nat, DoN
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:40:08 EDT
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: We don't do personal comments
I'm not the listowner for Forkni-l now, nor do I play one on tv <g>,
but I was once the acting listowner. That's means I know about this
unwritten rule on FK, because I'm the one who had to make it explicit.
Forkni-l doesn't *do* personal comments on the actors, and especially
not negatively phrased comments on appearance. It's one thing to mention
in passing as someone did recently, that Ger's lost some hair over the
course of the show. It would be quite another if I said that he looked
awful and should try Rogaine. The latter is negative and intrudes into
Ger's personal life.
So please, stop and think. There are a number of conduits back to cast
and crew. Some we know of, some we don't. Before making a personal
comment, ask yourself, "would I want to say this at a con, and then
discover that the person I'm talking about was standing right behind
me?" Yes, that has happened on occasion.
There are nearly 1,000 members of this list. Most of us haven't seen
each other. We can't know whose feelings we might be hurting with derogatory
comments. Even more important -- we can't know how other listmembers
might regard us if they could see us.
So let's all be charitable with ourselves and the people of FK.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:00:56 +0500
From: John Folden <jtfolden@e.......>
Subject: Re: We don't do personal comments
> From: "Lisa McDavid" <D020214@u.......>
> not negatively phrased comments on appearance. It's one thing to mention
> in passing as someone did recently, that Ger's lost some hair over the
> course of the show. It would be quite another if I said that he looked
> awful and should try Rogaine. The latter is negative and intrudes into
Bravo! Bravo! (clap, clap) I couldn't have said it better myself....
The old phrase "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything"
comes to mind...(of course, some people believe in the alternative old phrase
"If you don't have anything nice to say, please come sit with us!")
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// John T. Folden, a demented victorian
// lost in the DARK SHADOWS of an endless
// FOREVER KNIGHT...
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 06:00:00 MDT
From: Mirror <HEWEPAME@l.......>
Subject: Re: Finally, IT Arrives & The "Ancient Past" of th
Does anyone know where I can order the FK CD from?
N&N Packer
Partially an unknown
A champion is someone who gets up,
even when they can't.
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:06:33 +0500
From: John Folden <jtfolden@e.......>
Subject: Black Buddha - In a new light (some light LK spoilers)
> From: "Valery King" <kingv@u.......>
> Watch BB part one tonite on SciFi! I plan on re-living our and Tracy's
> first meeting with good ol' Vachon and Screed and think of some happier
> times. Once, of course, I get past the unhappiness of the loss of Schanke
> and Cohen. Then I'm gonna email SciFi and thank them for showing the program.
I watched BB Pt1 on a syndie station over the weekend for the first time
since it originally aired. I saw it in a whole new light after viewing
Last Knight just last week...I was still depressed all over again at loosing
Schanke/Cohen/Janette in just one episode but (I'm almost afraid to admit it)
it was actually kinda nice to see Tracy again...living, breathing and....PERKY!
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// John T. Folden, a demented victorian
// lost in the DARK SHADOWS of an endless
// FOREVER KNIGHT...
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:25:00 -0700
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: a Comment on Weight
Tanya,
> Catherine Disher is fat. Period.
First of all how in the world can you make this sweeping statement??? Fat
and thin is a oppion You may think she is fat but others may think she
looks healthy. Or normal.
> Neither is true. The average woman in America is 5'4 inches and
> 144 pounds.
and a size 14. which size do stories by more of? 14 & 12 which one is
gone the quickest 14. a size 14 is by no means fat. A woman may simply
have hips (heaven forbid)
> I would like to see a fit, trim, flawed woman play Natalie. One
> that represents the self-discipline to attain a level of athleticness,
> but also who isn't a manifestation of cosmetic surgery and silicone
> implants. A natural woman.
Why? Nat spends all her time in a dark room with dead people. She dosen't
get out alot. This is her character. who she is. IMO Nat dosen't seen like
the type to spend hours working to get a fit, trim body.
It is nice to see someone who is not a size 2 on TV. contrary to popular
TV Everyone is not. and it is not healthy. Someone can be meaty looking
and be wonderfully healthy. They just may have a big bone structure or
big hips or where the wrong cloths that make them look alot bigger than
they realy are (IMO this is alot of what makes CD look bigger than she is
kill those wardrobe folks)
I like CD playing Nat and think she is perfect for it. If Nat was a
little thin looking tracey I don't think i would like her as much.
This is just what I think.....
-Wendy Marie- \|/ Unnamed Faction*Cousin
|o o| "We *are* each other. You will always
-------ooO~(_)~Ooo------ be mine, eternally." LC to Nick
wendy@i.......
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 13:15:00 EDT
From: L M <LMS5@p.......>
Subject: People Behind the Characters
ENOUGH!
None of us are in the position to criticize ANYONE about ANY aspect of that
person whether it be physical or spiritual!
*IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING NICE... * we all how the rest of the saying goes.
There is a difference between being critical as in critiquing, and critical as
in blasting. Let's work on the former and try to avoid the later.
Laurie
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Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:31:12 -0700
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: a Comment on Weight
oh sorry about sending the message to Tanya to the list...I *thaught* I
was just sending it to her.
OBFK: I thaught BB2 was tonight...having watched BB1 last week... Are
they showing BB1 twice?
-Wendy Marie- \|/ Unnamed Faction*Cousin
|o o| "We *are* each other. You will always
-------ooO~(_)~Ooo------ be mine, eternally." LC to Nick
wendy@i.......
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