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Logfile LOG9604A Part 1

April 1, 1996


File: "FORKNI-L LOG9604A" Part 1

     TOPICS:
     Vachon Questions (2)
     Various (Some spoiler on Sons of Belial) (3)
     Is Aaron Spelling THAT smart? (2)
     BE MY VALENTINE Nick/Lacroix/Fluer (5)
     Who's the master?
     LaCroix's Family (long)
     Late nights (2)
     That Show & Time Travel
     Hand/Thing/Glove: A Theory
     Nick's Quest
     That Other Show
     List stats; resolutions
     YKYBR...
     Janette/LaCroix faction
     Flaming Tracy/Sizzling Vachon Drink
     New Episodes (2)
     Same room, etc.

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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:07:20 -0500
From:         "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Vachon Questions

On Sun, 31 Mar 1996, Apache wrote:

> Hanoverian.  The place looked to me like Southern Spain, because it
> looked like there was Moorish influence in the arches in the background.

Well, though I make no claims to familiarity with the type of
architecture, I didn't think it was Spain simply because when that guy
was hassling Urs and Vachon threatened to kill him if he ever touched her
again (which was also kinda sweet...if a tad barbaric), after he finished
he asked the guy: "Compri?" (sp?) Which is French, not Spanish. To which
the guy responded, also in French, "Oui."

But who knows...it's not as though no one ever crossed the border, but I
just didn't think if was Spain.

Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker: yes, I am *both* a Nick&NatPacker & Valentine
Who is also anxious about being e-mail deprived for a whole day while NYU
switches hosts on me.
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:20:11 -0500
From:         colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject:      Re: Various (Some spoiler on Sons of Belial)

At 11:07 PM 04/02/1996 -0500, you wrote:

>priest was whammied by LaCroix.  Here is a man who deals with
>pure evil on a regular basis.  One would suppose he had a fairly
>high tolerance to "suggestion".  Yet one look from LaCroix and...
>Anyway, I just didn't think that fit.

I don't think the priest was whammied. Let me explain, the priest spent his
whole life beliving in God, the devil, and everything like that. Knowing
that vampires are real, just validated what he has spent so long beliving,
namely, that the devil and god exist. I think LaCroix pretended to whammy
him just for show, and didn't really try.
        Of course, Lacroix is so old and powerful that he can do just about
whatever he wants to do. So....
Cp-
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:32:16 -0500
From:         Cousin Candice <winter@j.......>
Subject:      Is Aaron Spelling THAT smart?

Me here:

Ok, so I lied, I'm sitting here bantering with my pal Ned and he's all
mad about the whole concept of the Other Show.

But here's the theory:

They've taken FK out of production/syndication (well not including SciFi
-we don't all get it).  So what we think is that because they (TPTB) knew
about The Other Show, Aaron Spelling didn't want any competition.  DO you
think Mr. Spelling was smart enough to buy out Sony's desire to produce
the show?  Was _he_ the reason that the Mysterious Buyer couldn't get
Forever Knight?

Worth Pondering....

Yours,
Candice -obsessed by memory, befriended by desire, Cousin by choice
          Toreador by default
winter@j.......
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:26:54 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      Re: BE MY VALENTINE Nick/Lacroix/Fluer

Catherine Boone writes:
>Yes, Nick was happy with being a vamp at that point, and continued to be
>happy as a vamp for the next 700 years...this wish to become mortal is
>really a very recent occurrance in Nick's life.

First, I think he said what he said to Fleur about being a vampire was
so she wouldn't be worried about what he'd gotten himself into.  Second,
Nick has been searching more seriously for a cure for about a hundred
years (due to events described in the flashback of first seaon's Love
You to Death primarily), but I disagree that Nick was "happy as a vamp
for the next 700 years".  In the Canadian version of the two-part
premeire of the series (Dark Knight and Dark Knight: the Second Chapter),
Nick says to LC not long after coming across, "I want to go back."  LC
tells him it's impossible.  And what of the doubts engendered in him
by his encounters with Joan of Arc in first season's For I Have Sinned?
He originally meant to kill Joan, but didn't.  Instead what she said to
him I think made him consider whether he *had* to be damned.  What of
the *three centuries* prior to the flashback in Love You to Death where
he was trying to kill only, in the words of LC, "the criminals and the
derelicts, the useless and the impure".  And the *many* times we've
seen him disturbed at having drained someone.  These are *not* the
actions of someone who is *happy* being a vampire.  In the beginning
(after LC told him he couldn't go back to being a mortal) and maybe
perhaps *at times* since, he convinced himself that he was content
and happy with his lot.

But it's obvious to me at least that Nick *wasn't* content or happy
*long* before the events shown in Love You to Death.  What happened
in that episode just hastened his decision that feeding on people
was *wrong* (the "straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak),
which he had been progressing toward with trying to "justify" killing
by picking those he thought deserved to die for the previous three
centuries.  I've never believed that it was *just* what happened in
Love You to Death that made him change and want to become mortal;
he had been moving toward such a decision for a long time (just more
slowly and steadily).  LC's actions in that episode just hastened
that decision.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date:         Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:51:53 -0800
From:         Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject:      Re: Is Aaron Spelling THAT smart?

On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Cousin Candice wrote (re: the Other Show):

> about The Other Show, Aaron Spelling didn't want any competition.  DO you
> think Mr. Spelling was smart enough to buy out Sony's desire to produce
> the show?  Was _he_ the reason that the Mysterious Buyer couldn't get
> Forever Knight?

Boy, we're a paranoid lot, aren't we? I find this theory worth
considering, myself.

All the papers and the TV Guide are really pushing this show (TV Guide
shouldn't surprise anyone; Rupert Murdoch owns it AND Fox), but I haven't
yet read a favorable review! On the one hand, I want it to fail if ONLY
because it's getting so much attention while quality programming like FK
was mostly ignored. It's excessively violent, I've heard, with a bunch of
cardboard-cutout beautiful people, like on the (other) Fox soaps.

On the other hand, if it bombs too badly TV execs
being the way they are might believe that vampires just aren't ratings
material after all and reviving FK becomes more difficult.

I just wish the SOB's hadn't cast Kelly Rutherford, because I don't have
an excuse not to watch it now (at least, the first couple eps).

And today's "C'm ON, Give Me A Break!": the vampire nightclub in this
masterpiece of originality is called "The Haven." Janette should sue.

--Valery (I'm going to the Gerthering, too! Yipee! Let's all do
Disneyland, ok?)
kingv@u.......
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:59:45 -0500
From:         Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject:      Re: Who's the master?

Wicked Cousin Tippi wrote:

>Actually, isn't that exactly how Nick became a vampire?  Janette drained
>him and Lacroix... resucitated him.

From what I remember from "Dance by the Light of the Moon" Janette only
seduced him before bringing him to LaCroix.  I don't think she bit him at
all.  I think they even reinforce this in "Near Death"  It was LaCroix that
drained him and gave him life.

Cousin Mel
*NatVampCamp*AmarigeScentedNatPacker*Founder of Valentines*
miss68@p....... or Penchk68@a.......

"You shouldn't play with equipment you don't understand," Alina, "Urs' Big
Idea, part 8"
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Date:         Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:04:28 -0800
From:         Swordsister <catheboo@c.......>
Subject:      Re: BE MY VALENTINE Nick/Lacroix/Fluer

On Mon, 1 Apr 1996, Sandra Gray wrote:

> for the next 700 years".  In the Canadian version of the two-part
> premeire of the series (Dark Knight and Dark Knight: the Second Chapter),
> Nick says to LC not long after coming across, "I want to go back."  LC

Wow.  Really?  Hmm, that being the case, I think it's been way, *way* too
long since I've watched my first season tapes!

But, regardless, I think I would take that remark to be his first gut
reaction, not a serious conviction.  He got "cold feet."  A perfectly
rational response.  I can see how it might seem that he is beginning to
doubt his choice, but I guess I personally can't rationalize it with the
many times we've seen him munch down people without a second thought.
Not something I would think he would do, if he were already doubting
himself.  I'm horrible with episode names, but the flashback in either
Hunted or Hunters, whichever was earlier, and the one in Blood Money, are
some examples of what I considered to be his pre-Sylvaine behavior.

> tells him it's impossible.  And what of the doubts engendered in him
> by his encounters with Joan of Arc in first season's For I Have Sinned?
> He originally meant to kill Joan, but didn't.  Instead what she said to
> him I think made him consider whether he *had* to be damned.  What of

It's funny how For I Have Sinned has come up many times already in this
thread.  I always considered the scenes between him and Joan as the most
Lacroix-ish, on his part.  He's actively trying to either kill Joan or
bring her across.  While she might have given him something to think
about, I didn't get the impression at all that he was actually listening
to what she was saying at the time.  He was concentrating on trying to
seduce her to vampirism.  But, as I say, it's been a while for some of
these. (Alas, alack!)

> the *three centuries* prior to the flashback in Love You to Death where
> he was trying to kill only, in the words of LC, "the criminals and the
> derelicts, the useless and the impure".  And the *many* times we've

Mmm, well, I know this may sound like I'm reaching, but I don't think
that that's particularly indicative of a wish to become mortal.  I mean,
there are other reasons to feel obligated to kill only the outcasts of
society, than just the fact that you think you're going to be damned if
you don't.  I mean, when a farmer has a herd of cattle, does he kill his
best bull to eat?  No, he'll kill the old and the deformed, and keep the
best to sell or breed or whatever.  It's not a particularly spiffy
analogy, but I can more easily see a vampire choosing to kill only the
outcasts for that reason, than the one you've described.  But I have the
sinking feeling it's entirely a matter of interpretation.

> centuries.  I've never believed that it was *just* what happened in
> Love You to Death that made him change and want to become mortal;
> he had been moving toward such a decision for a long time (just more

Now, that's a very interesting question.  I'm not sure if Nick *would*
have gone on to want to become mortal, if Lacroix hadn't done what he
did.  I mean, he may not have been entirely thrilled on the drinking
blood idea, but I don't think he would have had anywhere near the
extreme reaction he did, if it hadn't happened.  I'm not sure if he
would have eventually drifted to the idea or not, but I think it would
have to take pretty darn long, i.e. I think he'd be sticking with it
today.  But I think that the question is by no means cut and dry,
which is cool, because I hadn't thought of that before. :)

Incidentally, that's the main reason why I could never forgive LC for
killing Sylvaine; not because it devestated Nick, but because it was so
incredibly sloppily done, it ended up having the opposite effect from
what Lacroix planned, and just degenerated into a big mess, as far as he
was concerned.  Usually he's ever so much more tidy about those things,
that's what I like most about him.  Ya gotta admire precision.

Now where'd I put those tapes again?

Catherine
---------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Boone                 catheboo@c.......
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
 themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:10:08 -0500
From:         Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject:      Re: LaCroix's Family (long)

Jackie D wrote:

>        Um, excuse me.....I thought that the Greeks, and the Romans, had a
>long standing habit of using a sharpened horn to scrape the hair from *all*
>parts of their bodies with the exception of the head and eyebrows.

EYEBROWS!! Ugh! not again.  I guess ol' Lucius didn't take a horn to those.
Me thinks they should have.

Cousin Mel, who did write an Eyebrow Challenge story
NatVampCamp/Founder of Valentines
miss68@p....... or Penchk68@a.......

"You shouldn't play with equipment you don't understand," Alina, "Urs' Big
Idea, part 8"
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:09:29 -0600
From:         Margie Hammet <treeleaf@i.......>
Subject:      Re: Various (Some spoiler on Sons of Belial)

>I don't think the priest was whammied.
>        Of course, Lacroix is so old and powerful that he can do just about
>whatever he wants to do. So....

I do think the priest was whammied. Just something about his face when he
turned back around. But I also think when LaCroix said, "This never
happened.", he was also trying to convince himself. Of course, that didn't
work. LaCroix can't whammy himself.

Margie (treeleaf@i.......)
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:20:17 -0600
From:         Cheryl Angelroth <cangel@o.......>
Subject:      Late nights

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have to admit that TV, if watched at
all is best at night, late night.  This is especially true for any vampire
show.  I guess one of my reasons is that whenever I am home in the day it is
to sleep or eat or other necessities. Regardless of reason, however, I still
prefer TV at night, with one problem...Every show (of the few) that I like to
watch at night gets taken off due to low ratings.  The most obvious example is
FK.  (Another is Mystery Science Theatre)  And the rare times when they move
these shows to prime time...Ricki Lake should be all I need to say.  So do you
too have this dilemma?  There are enough infomercials on for the networks to
keep fk and Mystery Science Theatre on.

C Angel
Crazy-Raven-Knightie-Natpacker
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:31:33 EST
From:         MS CHRISTINA L KAMNIKAR <VQRW76A@p.......>
Subject:      That Show & Time Travel

   I am caffeine-deprived, and in an eeeeevil mood. Not fun evil, either.

        I'm going to watch That Show. I will even, maybe, tape it. I will
give it a chance. But if it falls as far short as I anticipate it will,
then y'all will get a "Top Ten Reasons You KNOW You're Not Watching FK"
list as soon as I'm done watching it. I'm going to wait 'til Wednesday,
when the second ep airs. (Heck, I always give my dates three attempts to
screw up... I should give this show three hours. Then...:>  )

        Re: Time Travel.

        Jamie, I disagree. (ducks) Not because we're slaves to the show's
canon---we're not---but because previous Wars have already incorporated
Don's and Cohen's death, Tracy's presence, etc. It's too late. And too
 confusing.

        Which is not to say we can't bring them back. :)

        Schanke may have possessed Lacroix in the Happy Souvlaki last
November; and the Lurkers may have created a Schankelvis for a while at the
Raven. None of that is to say you can't contact the Other Side and rectify
the past. (Yo! Calling Sam Beckett!!) And anything that may go wrong in the
Finale to End All Finales, we can fix the same way. Maybe not in Quantum
Leap fashion, but the patented Plausible Explanation for What You Didn't
See works just as well.

        In short, the only guarantee we have for the next War is that Susan
will be washing the Caddy at high noon. And I'll be there with my Nikon. :)

Christina       Mercenary       FoFoD   Part-time Valentine, Part-Time N&N
vqrw76a@p.......     Night Manager, CERK-TO radio, 690 on your AM dial
"Cool! Fantasy - 1. Reality - 0. Eat LITTLE MERMAID, Voice of Reason!!" -
from the last War, uttered by someone singing "Les Vachons" later on...
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:40:38 -0500
From:         Rebecca Howle <JHHowle@a.......>
Subject:      Re: Hand/Thing/Glove: A Theory

I think that Jamie has hit on something with this topic! I totally agree with
her on the whole Hand/Thing/Glove explanation and the many incarnations.

Plus since she owns it I would be crazy to argue with her. I don't want that
thing running after me!

Rebecca
Hotel Goddess for the Shrewthering, Dark Knightie- all the fun of liking Nick
without all the guilt and angst! Proud New Co-Owner of some Blue Meanies.
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:51:39 PST
From:         Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
Subject:      Re: Various (Some spoiler on Sons of Belial)

On Tue, 2 Apr 1996 23:07:38 -0500  Chana Rossman wrote:
>the easy manner in which the
>priest was whammied by LaCroix.  Here is a man who deals with pure evil on a
 regular basis.  One would suppose he had a fairly high >tolerance to
 "suggestion".  Yet one look from LaCroix and...


I think about it this way.  LaCroix was probably the most powerful evil being
 the priest had come across.

Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
Non-faction/fractional FK fan
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:58:40 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      Re: Nick's Quest

Katja Stokley writes:
>He killed the guy who kidnapped his own wife and daughter.  He killed
>the serial killer in Dead Air.

I don't remember if Nick killed the guy in your first example (from
"Dying to Know You" right?).  The serial killer in Dead Air backed into
a high voltage thing on a rooftop though, I believe.  I see sort of
what you mean by killing people for *food* as being what he mostly
means, but I don't really see how you can blame Nick for killing the
occasional perp in the present day (and I don't think there have been
that many he's killed anyway) as he's a *cop*, after all.  Killing
someone in performance of your police duty isn't the same as just
wantingly murdering somebody.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:57:49 PST
From:         Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
Subject:      Re: That Other Show

On Sun, 31 Mar 1996 22:55:17 -0600  We Two wrote:

>"All in the Family" was done by Norman Lear.

OOPS!!!  A temporary short-circuit in the brain.  Must have been thinking about
 something else.

>Hey, if" Kindred" turns out to be as hilariously trashy as "Models, >Inc.", I
 might watch.

Or "Savannah".  I'm from Alabama, and I get a kick out of hearing actors
 develope their own version of a southern accent.

This is off topc...forgive me.

Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 02:04:36 -0500
From:         Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject:      List stats; resolutions

I was offline for a few days and had an astonishing number of digests to
wade through.  But now that I'm caught up:

a) A plethora of listmembers

A fellow listmember who obviously has too much time on her hands got a
copy of all the subscribers for FORKNI-L, FKFIC-L, and FKSPOILR and
tallied a total of 2,353 subscriptions.  Eliminating duplicate names where
they could easily be identified (since some people are signed on under
several accounts), she counts 1,145 people on one or more of the three
lists.  (This obviously excludes the small number of concealed
listmembers.)  Wow!

I wonder, is there any way to tell how many of these people are on
NOMAIL status?  It seems to me that being NOMAIL for any lengthy period
of time shouldn't be included in this tally, but we have no way of
figuring out who is NOMAIL, who is MAIL, and who is on DIGEST mode.


b) Those darned resolutions that keep haunting us!

Jackie <ejdjd@i.......> said:
> Subject: DO YOU REMEMBER?

>        You will remember these....the vows of sacrifice if only we got the
> end of the 3rd season....wellllllll,
[snip]
> Allison Percy           will join the Perkulators, wear an "OK, now I'm
> Perky" button and do a bicycle tour from Philadelphia to Toronto and raise
> funds for PAF

Sigh.  Call these my amendments.

I put the word "perky" in my .sig, although I don't (yet) have a button
that admits to my perky status.  I will get a Perkulator affiliation pin
from Susan Garrett as soon as I get around to buying a padded envelope to
send her.  On days when my temperament doesn't conform with the term
"perky," I guess I can reassure myself that even The Perky One, Tracy
herself, has her bad days.  (I won't say more because it involves spoilers
for one of the last few episodes.)

Now, the bicycle tour... you guys probably have heard more about that than
you want to hear.  I think the Philly-to-Toronto thing was rather rash --
who the heck would join me for a ride of that distance?!?  Rather than
ride alone, I decided to amend the route.

We're probably riding in Ontario (perhaps from Niagara Falls to Toronto)
just before Toronto Trek and the FK Mini-Con that's taking place up there.
About 4 people have signed on so far.  New riders always welcome!  Susan
Garrett (thanks, Susan!) has made up nice logos that can be made into
t-shirts for riders *and* pins for those who pledge money to this charity
effort.  More details will of course follow.  Info (and a preview of the
logo!) on the following web page:
  http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html

Worry not, listies, you'll be hit up for pledge money at a later date!!

And in an effort to keep my .sig sufficiently interesting for Cousine
Celeste while ensuring that it contains such crucial information as my
e-mail address, my faction(s), and the Shrewthering's web page address,
here's this week's version:

* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie               percy91@w....... *
* Founding Member, the BBQ Knighties -- "We like Nick when he's smokin'!" *
* Now contemplating starting an Aardvark faction.  Sign up now!           *
* Shrewthering info: http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html  *
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:08:26 PST
From:         Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
Subject:      Re: Is Aaron Spelling THAT smart?

On Mon, 1 Apr 1996 00:32:16 -0500  Cousin Candice wrote:

>DO you think Mr. Spelling was smart enough to buy out Sony's desire to
>produce the show?  Was _he_ the reason that the Mysterious Buyer
>couldn't get Forever Knight?
>


I never thought about it that way.  By the way, I missed that original post
that said an anonymous source tried to by FK?  Who was the source?

Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 01:16:41 PST
From:         Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
Subject:      Re: Late nights

I agree wholeheartedly!  There are enough stupid, disgusting talk shows (Leno,
 Dave, Conan, et al. included), boring infomericals, and news on late night.
 CBS had a good idea with their "Crimetime After Primetime" thing.  Now here's
 a story.  My local CBS affiliate at that time refused to run it, saying it was
 "questionable programming".  All I have to say is shouldn't the little kiddies
 be in bed at that time, and aren't they ever told that what's on TV is "just
 showbiz" (at least that what my parents told me and I understood it
 completely).

I would like to see a major network air some good shows for late night. But I'm
 afraid we are doomed to what we currently have.

Kim Ivey <kivey@c.......>
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 03:03:06 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      Re: YKYBR...

Ann Scura writes:
>   COUSINS'
>Hole-hog-BBQ

LOL!!!  There's an image to warm a Knightie heart. ;)  Or a case for
the X-Files. :)

On a related note:

You know you've been watching too much Forever Knight when...
you're browsing a thrift store and your husband finds a button that
says in black letters on a red circle WHERE'S NATALIE ? (and the
question mark was the biggest) and of course you both think of Nat.
There was a black border around it which declared in white letters
WAR AND REMEMBRANCE and POCKET BOOKS (with the logo).  And yes, I
bought it. :)

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 03:15:12 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      Re: Janette/LaCroix faction

Name suggestions for a Janette/LaCroix faction:

Seducers
Flames

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 04:00:19 -0500
From:         Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject:      Re: BE MY VALENTINE Nick/Lacroix/Fluer

Cousin Vickie writes:
>Nick was against Lacroix bringing her accross because it would end
>the family blood-line.

Gee, you can't credit that Nick might have *loved* his sister and
not wanted her to have her life, purity, etc. ruined?

And as we're discussing love, what about LC bringing over Janette.
Nigel has stated that he tried to play it as if LC was in love with
Janette (if I remember correctly; if I'm wrong, some Cousin will
probably let everyone know :) ).  He brought *Janette* over.  So...
did he love Janette less or was he nobly removing her from her
more unpleasant mortal life?

I don't think Janette could have loved LC (it didn't seem to me that
she did) at the time she was brought over.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:33:03 -0500
From:         Dotti Rhodes <dottir@w.......>
Subject:      Re: Flaming Tracy/Sizzling Vachon Drink

AROFL Cousin Karies on both the drink and the Barbie reference!! And it is
true, we pick on each others' fearless leaders all the time - the fact that
Tracey doesn't have so many defenders could mean - I dunno - maybe she's
just not a well liked character. It's kinda too bad, but being put in the
position she was in she would have had to have been written by God to make
her truly likable to most of us to make up for what we lost and since that
didn't happen.....

Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever

>
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:34:24 CST
From:         Wicked One <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject:      Re: Vachon Questions

Kim Ivey wrote (which I snipped in some places for space):

FO>Well in "My Boyfriend is a Vampire" he has a flash back of he, Screed
FO>  From the clothing, it appears to have been perhaps 1700's or early
FO> 1800's.  Don't know about the place.

And then she wrote:
FO>There was also a flashback in "Hearts of Darkness" that showed how he
FO> brought across Urs.  That would most definitely fit the time period you

I don't have MBiaV on tape I don't think, so I can't say for certain
about that ep, though I got the impression that the period was a bit
later than late 1700's, early 1800's.  But on HoD, I'm pretty sure it's
the late 1800's, like from 1860-1890 some time.  I figure the area they
were in was either California or the Yukon where a lot of prospectors --
and saloons! -- were popping up.

Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)
Getting revenge the fanfic way!
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:40:58 CST
From:         Wicked One <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject:      New Episodes

Carmen wrote:

FO>  4/22/96   319    Jane Doe
FO>  4/29/96   321    Francesca      [dir. Nigel Bennett]
FO>  5/06/96   320    Ashes to Ashes
FO>  5/13/96   322    Last Knight    [dir. Geraint Wyn Davies]

Is this the air dates for syndication?  I needs ta know as I am planning
The Wicked 96 Tour to go to a Last Knight party.  And you *thought* it
safe to go out on the freeways again... Muahahaah!

Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 06:58:38 CST
From:         Wicked One <WickedOne@h.......>
Subject:      Re: BE MY VALENTINE Nick/Lacroix/Fluer

Sandra Gray wrote:

FO>probably let everyone know :) ).  He brought *Janette* over.  So...
FO>did he love Janette less or was he nobly removing her from her
FO>more unpleasant mortal life?

Janette didn't have a brother standing there "defending" her honor. ;)
With Janette, he only had to consider how having a new child would
affect *his* life.  But if he goes and brings Fleur across, he's got
Nick and Janette to consider.  What?  LC considerate?!  In a way yes.  I
think he would have risked alienating both Janette and Nick by bringing
Fleur across.  Why?  Well, Janette and Nick *wanted* each other so they
were happy enough to traipse around with LC together.  But then you go
adding someone new into the mix and you risk upsetting that already
tenuous balance.

Or *maybe* LC was just being plain old wicked and knew if he *didn't*
bring Fleur across, he could blame it on Nick and hold it over Nick's
head for the next milennia. ;)

JUST KIDDING, so I don't wanna see anyone waggling their fingers at me
for not believing in True Love! ;)

Wicked Cousin Tippi
(WickedOne@h....... or TippiNB@a.......)
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:20:26 EST
From:         MS GILLIAN A ELDRIDGE <VRKP26B@p.......>
Subject:      Re: New Episodes


>FO>  4/22/96   319    Jane Doe
>FO>  4/29/96   321    Francesca      [dir. Nigel Bennett]
>FO>  5/06/96   320    Ashes to Ashes
>FO>  5/13/96   322    Last Knight    [dir. Geraint Wyn Davies]

I also read that they will air two weeks later than this.  Does anyone
know which schedule, if any, is right?

Jill Eldridge
 g.eldridge1@g.......
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Date:         Mon, 1 Apr 1996 08:23:51 EST
From:         Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject:      Same room, etc.

The room in which the boy is laid out in Fatal Mistake can't be the
same as anything in Dracula the Series. Dracula was shot entirely on
location in Luxembourg. FK, of course, shot in Toronto.

Please be sure to sign your address as well as your name in your sigs.
Some people (no, not me) have mailers that don't show who posted list
mail. For a few mailers, even setting dualhdr won't solve this. So,
unless you have your address in the sig, no one can reply to you offlist,
and personal replies on list are a no-no. :)

Why is the other show getting all the press? Because of Aaron Spelling,
I imagine, and his track record for sleazy hits. As for me, one promo
on Fox during X-Files was enough to convince me that I don't want to
see the other show.

H'mm, for those of us with write-in columns, or who would like to write
to TV Guide, how about letters asking what all the fuss is about, and
mentioning that FK did it first and better?

No, there is no way to tell the status of any subscription, unless
you are a listowner. Even then, it's a tedious process to check for
a whole list.

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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