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Digest - 16 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Sat, 16 Mar 1996
There are 39 messages totalling 1015 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Let your opinion be known (14)
2. Why I Like Janette
3. Let No Man Tear Asunder (6)
4. Solicitors
5. Nigel Bennett Interview
6. Twilight Zone...
7. That most definitely is NOT Geraint... (Was: Ger in commerical?)
8. Sony survey
9. LNMTA/MBIAV buildings
10. Twilight Zone (2)
11. Message from the Sci-Fi Channel!!! (2)
12. New Game: Favourite Episodes That Never Were.
13. LIST RULES: Stay On Topic
14. LIST RULES: Nevermores (HF)
15. Question Re: SoB
16. Lafayette, IN FK party
17. Yippee and YKTB . . .
18. I Werewolf
19. Sony Survey?
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 05:12:55 -0600
From: Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
>>Those with web access should check out sony's FK site.
>>http://www.spe.sony.com/Pictures/tv/forever/forever.html
>Either you put down the wrong address, or my server is being a pain in a...
>again. Could someone double check this for me? (the address, not my server)
The website is correct. However, when you click on the "question" link, OR the
"Exclusives" link, all you get is a blank page! :(
I guess that means they're updating it as I type?
Diane E
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 03:23:00 +48000
From: Valerie Meachum <valerie@l.......>
Subject: Why I Like Janette
Chanda, I've been hunting for the post I wrote responding to the same
question about a year and half ago (though it came from someone who
*wanted* to like Janette and was having trouble doing so), but like most
of what I post I let it go off into the ether and evaporate. I shall
attempt to recreate (and adapt for the passage of a year and a half):
I have been fascinated by Janette from the very first episode of FK, from
the moment she punctuated that very cool and cagey discussion with a look
of longing that obviously followed Nick all the way out of the room...but
not until his back was turned. And while over the past nearly four years
(can you believe it, guys?) I have been frequently heard to complain that
she was desperately underutilized, I have to admit that part of what *so*
hooked me on her was the fact that we *did* know so little about her for
so long.
Of course, that fascination hinged entirely on the fact that Deb--despite
her own huge underestimation of her power as an actor--made her so
very engagingly, intriguingly *real* that of *course* we could only
assume there was always more to know about her.
And then, every once in a while, we did. We learned the painful secret
of her mortal origins, in so potent an example of TV storytelling that I
spent at least half the episode curled up in the corner of the couch,
clutching my grandmother's quilt for dear life and sobbing my fool head
off and wishing I could *kill* something in approximately equal
measures. We watched her gradually come to some understanding of this
mad quest of Nick's, make the long journey from "Ah, but you're not
people...you're never going to learn that, are you?" to "If that is what
will make you happy..." and beyond. And lest it all become too pat, the
occasional "I've been down this road with him before; it's a dead end"
thrown in as a reminder that what he thinks will make him happy
represents a sacrifice for her. And of course, if anyone rates
sacrifices in this consummate survivor's reckoning--however large a flaw
it might be in her logic!--it's Nick.
I love her because she has the power to wipe the floor with any man--a
revenge fantasy we all need once in a while--but more because she has the
courage to show compassion in a vampire culture that prizes
ruthlessness. She survived a thousand years within the boundaries
LaCroix placed on her life (and whatever improvement it might have been
over where she came from, and whatever he might insist to the contrary,
those boundaries can be very confining indeed), yet some how did it in a
way that allowed her to remain in some ways more her own person that Nick
might ever understand how to be. (Without getting into particulars that
belong on the spoiler list, I think that's true now more than ever.)
That one took me a long time to
recognize; I used to mourn for the spirit of the woman who might have
been, and only very gradually did I recognize that she was not only in
there, but emerging bit by bit into the open. And that, with LaCroix's
return, took the greatest courage of all.
I enjoy seeing a woman on television ripping doors off their hinges, or
intimidating large men with an implicit threat and a well-placed vise
grip, as much as the next pirate queen manque. :-) But it's the quiet
subtle things, the little contradictions, that really endear any
character to me and give me the sense that there's a whole person there
that I'd love to get to know. Janette is as rich in those elusive
elements as any "lead" character in any storytelling form, thanks to
flashes of insight on the parts of some writers, and of course far more
to the vibrant life Deb brings to everything I have ever seen her do.
Of course, all this is window dressing. The truth is, as with anyone
else, real or imaginary, I can't give you a rational reason. I love her
because she's Janette, and that's it.
Later!
Valerie Lynn Meachum <valerie@l.......>
Prima Ballerina of the Father Time Boogie*NatPack Head Cheerleader*IotCoS
http://members.aol.com/wiliqueen/wiliqueen.html
Sweetness and Light are getting the hard sell from personal-injury lawyers.
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:43:00 EST
From: Maryann Jorgensen <majorge@i.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder
I for one can think of more ROMANTIC places to kiss than in a morgue. You
never know who may be watching ;-}
To me she actually didn't look like she was trying to avoid him. Just take
it outside.
Maryann - the Knightie with a Nattitude majorge@i.......
* Knightie, Natpacker , N&Ner, Dark Nattie, Paris-ite, Janewayan *
********************************************************************************
And I have a life ... really ... it involves blond gorgeous men and art pencils.
"Today's topic: How to keep your nostrils happy" - The Doctor - Voyager
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:30:51 -0500
From: Sharon Bhandari <sbhanda@e.......>
Subject: Solicitors
I just wanted to post a short note apologizing for the wierd
format of my story. Apparently, there are random numbers all over. I'm
sure that makes for messy reading. I think (think, being the operative
word) that I have figured out what is wrong. If you would rather read an
unsoiled copy, please e-mail me.
Thanks.
Sharon Bhandari
sbhanda@e.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:35:22 +0000
From: Lynn McAlpine <chatelyn@n.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel Bennett Interview
Don't *anybody* miss this web page and interview with Nigel. What a
treat! Just the opportunity to hear NB's real voice (especially his
response to the Uncle in a Thong thread) is worth the visit. And it
sounds like he has a warm fuzzie on his fridge!
Lynn
chatelyn@n.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:24:48 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: Twilight Zone...
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix wrote:
>No, but unlimited sushi would be nice...
Okay. Sushi coming right up. You'll have to pick it up in Toronto, though.
;) Do you need directions to the Raven? ;)
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:33:45 -0500
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: That most definitely is NOT Geraint... (Was: Ger in commerical?)
Howdy Cousin Lisa and fellow listies...
Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......> writes:
>(Someone else, who wasn't attributed, writes:)
>>and says, "If you had Bell answering service, you could have gone out
>>with HIM, instead of with this guy" and it quick flashes to a total
>>geek checking his teeth in a mirror. As I said, I've seen the ad once,
>>and the geek did not look like Ger to me, but I've been told it's him.
>Ok, this is Cousin Lisa again. It's not that I can't imagine Ger playing
>a geek, it's just that I can't imagine anyone wasting him on one for a
>commercial.
I've seen that commercial several times, and it most definitely is not
Geraint, or at the very least, it most definitely does not _seem_ to be him.
If I see it again, and it _does_ turn out to be him, you'll definitely be
hearing from me again...
Cheers,
Cousin Will, Leader and Designated Driver of the brand new Tour Guides faction
(ahh...haven't heard of it yet? You WILL...)
P.S. : Geez, enough of these bad pun teasers already...sheesh.
---
Will Steeves, B.Sc. (Toronto, 1991), goid@i....... "Neil Hull is GOiD"
Internex Online (aka ZOOiD BBS & R-Node), Toronto, Ont. "GOiDS Rule"
1995-96 Managing Editor, The New Edition (U of T); Nu '96, Psi Upsilon
Co-Ontario Area Coordinator, FREE ; Toronto Liaison Officer, M.E.R.G.E.
"Any sufficiently advanced intuition is indistinguishable from telepathy."
- Steeves' Law
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:05:20 -0500
From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: Sony survey
I was just out to the Sony FK page and sure enough, there's a survey about
the last episode. The URL is:
http://www.spe.sony.com/Pictures/tv/forever/forever.html
They basically want to know if you think Nick should achieve mortality in
the *season* finale or not and to tell them why. They're also giving away
mugs.
I filled out the survey and took the opportunity to remind them that we'd
*love* merchandise and that we'd *buy* mugs if they sold them.
Everyon should go and fill that surve out--make sure they get tons and tons
of responses.
Shaorn
--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 07:58:32 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: LNMTA/MBIAV buildings
I was noticing that the building where Maggie Dwyer was killed in MBIAV
looked very much like one I saw in LNMTA this week. Soooo, I pulled up the
tape and sure enough, the 336 Church Lane clinic where the organ transplant
ring did their thing is the same one as in MBIAV. It even had the same tree
in the way of the shot.
Is this the same building where Nat lived in Only the Lonely, and the others
who all seem to live in the same building?
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:07:03 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Twilight Zone
Any requests? Looks
> like I can make things happen with the stroke of my keyboard! Anybody need a
> new car?
>
> Wicked Cousin Tippi
Never mind a new car, I want to keep an old farm.... in your story, have a
mean old fink called Ralph Brown decide all of a sudden that he doesn't
want to try to foreclose, dragging a hapless Native American through the
courts of law and equity.... or else just have him drop dead.
Sorry. On top of everything else, I've gotten ill over this, so sick the
doc is threatening hospital on Monday if I don't get better. Thank you
to everyone who's written; please understand the fever is why I haven't
written back.
I have never wanted to be a vampire so much.
Ap.
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:35:06 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder
Dotti writes:
>People say Nick needs a smack in the head once in a while - I think
>maybe Nat needs one too everyone now and then!
It couldn't hurt! :) Although I think some people think she "suffers"
at Nick's hands enough now. Except for making her more bitching this
season, she's not shown doing anything "wrong" too often.
Maybe Nat just doesn't know *what* she wants anymore. I wouldn't care
if she dumped Nick.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:43:24 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
Ask for what people want to see in the last episode? I can't help
but think that that is a *mistake* to do that. Whose idea is this?
Ger's (since he's directing)? Whether this "survey" is done or not,
*some fan* is not going to be satisfied with the result. Too many
cooks can spoil the broth.
I wish they hadn't decided to do something like that 'cause it just
tempts me to want to put in my two cents too. Grrrrr!
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:53:54 -0500
From: Susan Honig <Susankenn@a.......>
Subject: Re: Message from the Sci-Fi Channel!!!
Does this mean that SCIFI will air the last 4 episodes or are they going to
start with BB
SciFI does produce original movies - we might have a shot at one with FK???
Is anyone going to send them the running order or should we just tell them to
check out the award winning FK home page.
Can we suggest that the fans would really appreciate the Canadian versions of
1st season.
Susankenn
Now ordering the Scifi channel to get better copies of FK
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 10:50:05 PST
From: Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:35:06 -0500 Sandra Gray
<TMP_HARKINS@d.......> writes:
>> It couldn't hurt! :) Although I think some people think she "suffers"
>> at Nick's hands enough now. Except for making her more bitching this
>> season, she's not shown doing anything "wrong" too often.
Not if you exempt Nat letting everybody and her daughter attempt a heart
transplant
from her or Nat giving Nick's blood derivatives to retarded/mentally ill
teenagers.
I could make comments about her being a "competent" coroner, but since Lubbock
has had a 10-year-old scandal involving a county examiner who's JUST NOW
serving time, I'll say instead she's right in line with a lot of them! ;D
glw
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:12:10 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
Okay - what's the point of this survery? Hasn't the show already been done and
in the can? Are they trying to appease us somehow by making us think we have
some say in our show after all? This doesn't make any sense.
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:17:58 -0500
From: "Patricia M. White" <pirate52@p.......>
Subject: Re: New Game: Favourite Episodes That Never Were.
On Mar 11, 1996 19:10:02, 'Andy & Roni Power <bach19@i.......>' wrote:
>Nick and Schanke follow a murder suspect to Chicago and team up with (you
>all know where this is heading don't you?) Ray and Frasier. Not only does
>Schake have to deal with an eccentric partner, now he has to deal with a
>straight-as-a-arrow mountie with a deaf wolf. Needless to say, Ray and
>Schanke hit it off big time and visit all the souvlaki stands in Chicago
>while Fraiser wonders why Deif won't go near Nick. Franny starts chasing
>after Nick and we get to see Nick try to smuggle bottles of blood across the
>border in his suitcase. Oh and they do catch the murderer.
Roni -
What a hoot! Do it, do it!
- PirATe
>>>>I LOVE NEW YORK<<<<
...better dead than mellow...
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:21:40 -0800
From: LG Soward <lgs@i.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
At 11:43 AM 3/16/96 -0500, Sandra Gray wrote:
>Ask for what people want to see in the last episode? I can't help
>but think that that is a *mistake* to do that. Whose idea is this?
>Ger's (since he's directing)? Whether this "survey" is done or not,
>*some fan* is not going to be satisfied with the result. Too many
>cooks can spoil the broth.
It also makes it a moot point because shooting finished on the season
finale, WAY BACK in February. So unless that survey's been lurking around
since then, I fail to see the point for this "survey".
Lana
lgs@i.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:24:36 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Twilight Zone
Tippi writes:
>Any requests?
I'd like to get into an "intimate" situation with Ger. ;) :D
Barring that, just write that FK goes to a fourth season and I sell
them a script.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:26:44 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, LG Soward wrote:
> It also makes it a moot point because shooting finished on the season
> finale, WAY BACK in February. So unless that survey's been lurking around
> since then, I fail to see the point for this "survey".
It's an attempt to gather addresses and other data - just another
marketing tool. All they ask is if you want Nick to regain his mortality,
yes or no.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:41:10 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <Immajer@a.......>
Subject: Re: LIST RULES: Stay On Topic
In response to my list rules post, Beth wrote...
>I beg to differ... There were several discussions going on about
>vampires in general, problems with the sun, soulless vs. having one,
>fangs, being brought across, the ability to fly, etc.... all of those
>threads, all of which were not directly about Forever Knight.
Actually, all of these threads DO relate directly to FK: Nick's problems
with the sun, Nick's view on whether or not he has a soul, the question of
whether or not FK vampires have retractable fangs... those *are* on-topic
threads. When the discussion veers away from FK vampires specifically to
vampires in general, that's off-topic; and that's when the assistant
listowner crawls out of her hole and posts. <g>
>Does anyone agree with me? I am new to this list and I thought the
>topic was relevant to FK. Next time I will know better.... I've never
>been much of a lurker... maybe it's time to start.
Please, don't take my post in that light. It's always good to have new
voices on the list! and my post was not intended to discourage you or anyone
else from posting.
But on a list with over a thousand members, it's necessary to adhere to some
rules, otherwise the whole thing becomes a tangled mess. The "stay on topic"
rule has been around for a long time; longer than either Beth or I have been
on list. (I only got here last August.) And while it can be tricky to
determine just where that line between on-topic and off-topic lies (like with
that thread that kept veering back and forth between FK and Kindred) it's
imperative that the attempt be made.
Beth, I appreciate your good intentions and the work you put into your
article; please don't think otherwise. But the fact is that this list exists
specifically to discuss FK vampires, as opposed to vampires in general;
that's just how it is. And although it was your post that spurred me to
post, my words were not directed solely to you; considering the size and
activity of this list, it's often necessary to post 'reminders' to keep the
discussion on track. Especially since there are new listmembers signing onto
the lists every day...
But everyone makes mistakes (I personally am the Queen of Sending Personal
Posts to the List!) and that's no reason to stop posting!
In conclusion: Sorry, Beth, but rules are rules & I don't make 'em, I just
enforce 'em; but please don't be upset about it, either. Warm fuzzies...?
Jamie M.R.
Asst. Listowner & Frazzled Traveler
immajer@p.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:47:08 -0500
From: knust lisa m <lmknus@m.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
I don't know if someone else has explained this yet as I'm on
digest, but I went to check the Sony's web site question out and when I
got to the web page and clicked on "Question" it told me it was a "bad
HTML". Is it just my school's lousy computer system or has someone else
experienced this too?
And why are they asking us this question anyway? Don't tell me
they're even pretending to care what we think. I think we've been pretty
clear already (not that it ever hurts to be redundant).
Lisa Knust
lmknus@m.......
"For the Blood is the Life..."
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:46:24 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder
Gary writes:
>Not if you exempt Nat letting everybody and her daughter attempt a heart
>transplant from her
I fail to see how this is an example of Nat doing anything "wrong".
She was the victim there (although she may have been a bit stupid about
trusting the doctor wanting to put her under for her knee surgery).
>since Lubbock has had a 10-year-old scandle involving a county
>examiner who's JUST NOW serving time, I'll say instead she's right in
>line with a lot of them!
Well, it's true that she's covered up the real cause of death for
some vampire victims.
But, as a general rule, Nat is not meant to be viewed as a "villain"
character.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:54:01 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <Immajer@a.......>
Subject: LIST RULES: Nevermores (HF)
Asst. Listowner, crawling out of her hole again...
The Nevermores (HF) thread is a spoiler thread, and DOES NOT BELONG ON FORKNI
!!!!!
Please move ALL posts responding to this thread over to FKSPOILR.
These are the episodes that MAY NOT BE DISCUSSED here, in any way, shape or
form:
Strings
Fever
Human Factor
Dead of Night
Games Vampires Play
Avenging Angel
Anything as yet unaired, including the season finale
These eps are covered by spoiler protection. Discuss 'em over on FKSPOILR
only!!!
Thanks.
Jamie M.R.
Asst. Listowner
immajer@p.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:54:52 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
Lana writes:
>It also makes it a moot point because shooting finished on the season
>finale, WAY BACK in February.
After reading a couple more posts about this, it sounds like the main
thrust is to get an opinion about whether Nick should regain his
mortality or not.
So...it's possible that they filmed to endings and they're looking
for a consensus about which one to use.
It's still a mistake, imo. They should look at what they've done
with the show and decide what to do for themselves.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:57:51 -0600
From: Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
Katja said:
>It's an attempt to gather addresses and other data - just another
>marketing tool.
I think Katja got it! Congrats Katja. But, anyway, I'm a sucker for those
things and I filled one out.
I'm pretty sure they know that FK has a very large online following so that
can't be the reason. And we all know that the last ep. is in the can.
Still, I think we should all go and fill one out and be heard. Whenever
we're asked to show up as a fandom, I think we should - in hoards of
course. (what's a grouping of FK fans called, anyway <g>) Who knows what
our stats will be used for. And of course, we can ask for mugs!
Regards to all.
--Sharon
--------Sharon Joy - A Forever Knightie - SJoy@u.......
There's a past and-----there's a past...
Go here: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:03:36 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Question Re: SoB
This may have been answered but:
On Thu, 14 Mar 1996, Robbi Egersdorf wrote:
> Does anyone know what the vampire's test for death is that was spoken of by
> the demon as he lay on the exorcist's table?
> The line went *I have revived the vampire's test for death*.
According to my closed captioning, the line is actually:
"I have revived the vampire's taste for death."
Makes more sense that way, agree?
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:52:17 PST
From: Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:47:08 -0500 knust lisa m <lmknus@m.......> writes:
>> I don't know if someone else has explained this yet as I'm on
>> digest, but I went to check the Sony's web site question out and when I
>> got to the web page and clicked on "Question" it told me it was a "bad
>> HTML". Is it just my school's lousy computer system or has someone else
>> experienced this too?
It's not just your system or server. Surfing onto Sony's site with Teri's TENET
account (in which the board/server is just text-Lynx based, no nice gfx!), my
answers were rejected every time I entered the SUBMIT button and I got bounced
back to the TENET web server area. Apparently, Sony's doohickey doesn't like
Lynx or something.
glw
:?
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:04:44 PST
From: Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:46:24 -0500 Sandra Gray
<TMP_HARKINS@d.......> writes:
>> Gary writes:
>> >Not if you exempt Nat letting everybody and her daughter attempt a heart
>> >transplant from her
>>
>> I fail to see how this is an example of Nat doing anything "wrong".
>> She was the victim there (although she may have been a bit stupid about
>> trusting the doctor wanting to put her under for her knee surgery).
Sorry, but my opinion is stuck! Which is/was not that Nat's a villain for
anything, just plain stupid about a lot of common-sense things. However, I
admit this may be due to the USA-ization of this season's eps. My wife Teri
who's "only" a school teacher has had the same procedure done to her knee with
just a local anesthetic due to arthritis and suffering from a couple of bad
car wrecks years ago. Likewise, **NO** competent physician worth his/her
salt would give a drug or blood derivative to someone without *testing* the
thing first. Doing so would be stupid AND highly unethical (and also grounds
for legal action should the kid's boxing friend decide to sue the crap out of
the police department). Heck, even this year's worst STAR TREK: VOYAGER eps
have had the holodoc do testing for his procedures before inflicting them on
his patients.
>> >since Lubbock has had a 10-year-old scandle involving a county
>> >examiner who's JUST NOW serving time, I'll say instead she's right in
>> >line with a lot of them!
>>
>> Well, it's true that she's covered up the real cause of death for
>> some vampire victims.
Which is also unethical, but so did Dr. Julia Hoffman do the same for Barnabas
Collins, et al., in DARK SHADOWS, right?
>> But, as a general rule, Nat is not meant to be viewed as a "villain"
>> character.
Which, again, wasn't what I was implying. Just that half the season she needed
a brain tissue implant, let alone a good tort book, rather than any type of
stuff from Nick! ;D
glw
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:17:43 -0500
From: Wendy Kelley <as425@f.......>
Subject: Lafayette, IN FK party
Just a reminder-
The FK party in Lafayette, IN starts tonight (March 16) at 6:00p.
Everyone welcome! It's being held in Brownstone Apartments
[Address removed].
...
Cousin Wendy
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 14:30:33 -0800
From: Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......>
Subject: Re: Let No Man Tear Asunder
Sandra Gray wrote:
> I fail to see how this is an example of Nat doing anything "wrong".
> She was the victim there (although she may have been a bit stupid about
> trusting the doctor wanting to put her under for her knee surgery).
Welll...not necessarily. I'm up two knee surgeries now, and was put
completely out for both of them. My doctor's reasoning is A> it keeps the
knee much more immobile, and B> you never know how much damage you're
actually going to run into. He found much more damage than he anticipated in
the second, and the operation ran 3 times longer than it should have.
Extremely uncomfortable if I'd been under a local.
Pardon the rant....I just don't get why this keeps coming up. <gryn>
> Well, it's true that she's covered up the real cause of death for
> some vampire victims.
Considering the Enforcer situation, this could be viewed as self
preservation.
> But, as a general rule, Nat is not meant to be viewed as a "villain"
> character.
Definately not. Misguided sometimes...<especially if she DID duck that
kiss...>
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:44:26 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Yippee and YKTB . . .
Hi all!! I wanted to let you know that I found out. . . <drum roll>
I PASSED MY COMPS!!!!!!! Well, my supervisor said that 2 readers passed
me and doesn't see why I wouldn't pass the 3rd. So, basically, I passed!!!!
<bounce bounce>
Thanks all for your prayers.
Now then back to FK -
You Know You Been Watching Too Much Forever Knight When . . .
I was watching (I think this is where I saw it - brain still recovering
from comps) Worlds Funniest Videos and they are doing a play on words -
Someone holds a light inside a suit of armor and says "Knight light"
I was ROTFL thinking of a glowing Nick Knight walking around, especially
in a suit of armor.
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:31:21 -0500
From: "(Beth Brown)" <BKBVA@a.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
In a message dated 96-03-16 12:22:22 EST, Lana wrote:
>It also makes it a moot point because shooting finished on the season
>finale, WAY BACK in February. So unless that survey's been lurking around
>since then, I fail to see the point for this "survey".
>
>
Has anyone considered the possibility that they filmed more than one ending?
Oops, I just saw Sandra thought of that too. We've go to stop all this
conjecturing. But even if they did shoot more than one, why should they care
what *we* think? Unless its to keep an opening to change their minds about a
fourth season, or at least a shortened one.
Beth
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:56:45 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Sharon Joy wrote:
> I think Katja got it! Congrats Katja. But, anyway, I'm a sucker for those
> things and I filled one out.
I normally eschew these things - but I admit it, I want a mug. Maybe I'll
go fill it out another one. :-)
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:57:34 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Sharon Joy wrote:
> Whenever
> we're asked to show up as a fandom, I think we should - in hoards of
> course. (what's a grouping of FK fans called, anyway <g>)
Can we be 'hordes' instead of 'hoards'?
:-)
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:58:54 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Gary L Warren wrote:
> Apparently, Sony's doohickey doesn't like Lynx or
> something.
I use lynx and didn't have a problem - it wasn't the most lynx-friendly
setup I've ever seen, but it worked.
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:07:25 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: I Werewolf
I, Werewolf. On CBS. This is the network that lied to us about saving
FK and moving it into prime time if they got enough letters in 1993.
FK came in with about three times as many letters as any other CTAP
and they still axed it.
Does anyone else ever wonder if JP, Jon Slan and Barney Cohen broke
a mirror or something just before they started filming FK? :)
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:18:18 -0500
From: "<Rachel Corey>" <Polgara693@a.......>
Subject: Re: Message from the Sci-Fi Channel!!!
In a message dated 96-03-16 11:53:03 EST, Susankenn writes:
>SciFI does produce original movies - we might have a shot at one with FK???
Some people seem to be upset that the show is going to the Sci Fi channel. I
think it is great. Don't get me wrong I would LOVE to have a season 4 with
all new shows, but if it isn't going to happen isn't it good that the show
will get this kind of exposure. I bet Susan is right when she suggested they
might do a new movie. After all they would have an audience built in
already. If we are going to help Forever Knight live we should be spreading
the word about the show and having people who have access to the Sci Fi
channel watch it. Then we should write to the Sci Fi channel and encourage
them to do a new movie. Who knows mabie this will be the channel which will
finally show Forever Knight the respect it deserves. :)
Yours,
Rachel
aka
Polgara693@a.......
LONG LIVE FOREVER KNIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 13:03:53 PST
From: June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: Let your opinion be known
Lana regarding the Sony request for our opinion about how we think Last
Knight should end:
:It also makes it a moot point because shooting finished on the season
:finale, WAY BACK in February. So unless that survey's been lurking around
:since then, I fail to see the point for this "survey".
Often shows are filmed in several ways so that they can decide at a later
point exactly how it will end. This is also sometimes done to prevent leaks
of information prior to its actual debut. So, it is possible that they are
now trying to make a final decision about how the show ends.
Kat
Kat ( June Russell )
pacifier.com!grendal!kat kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!
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Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:27:30 EST
From: Lisa <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Sony Survey?
Would someone like to explain how they can be taking a survey now?
Shooting finished and the sets were struck last month. There's no
way to reshoot.
Unless, of course, they shot two endings ....?)
First Ger is quoted as saying "hiatus" in an interview and now Sony's
saying season instead of just finale.
Is anyone else getting dizzy from all the jerking around?
Besides, whether or not I want Nick to become mortal depends on whether
or not this really is the last episode the series will ever have.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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