There are 26 messages totalling 1012 lines in this issue. Topics in this special issue: 1. A perfect Nick/Nat song (2) 2. A perfect FK Song 3. flower power 4. bumper stickers 5. E mail addy's for Sci-fi & USA Network. 6. YKTB . . . 7. N.B. Speech 8. FW: Re: FK mouse pad 9. FK website wins award 10. FW: FK and SFC 11. Tristar joke 12. (Fwd) Re: SFC address 13. Vachon's background 14. Message from the Sci-Fi Channel!!! 15. greetings one and all 16. Read Before Hostory Note 17. History of the Vampire 18. Alright Nigel!!! 19. FK on SFC (kinda long) 20. Search for name of FKFIC story. 21. SLC Party Quote List 22. LIST RULES: Stay On Topic (2) 23. FK CD 24. The night shift in Toronto ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:11:32 -0900 From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......> Subject: A perfect Nick/Nat song Sitting here reading my e-mail and realizing that I have lost today's posted stories--could someone send them to me--a song just grabbed me by the lapels and gave me a shake. M. Etheridge's "I Want to Come Over" is the story of Nick and Nat all the way. Give it a listen when you can. Barbara P.S. One of the stories I lost strated out with Tracy discovering Nick and Nat in a juicy kiss. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 02:28:27 -0500 From: Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......> Subject: Re: A perfect FK Song A perfect song for many of the characters on FK is the new Don Henley song, called "Dirty" It just ooozes, Nick, Nat, Janette and Uncle. Cousin Mel *NatVampCamp*Amarige Scented NatPacker*Founder of Valentines* miss68@p....... or Penchk68@a....... "Fraid so. Land mines can be so annoying," LaCroix, from Cousin Mel's masterpiece of fanfic, Interview With the Nightcrawler. A little piece of shameless self promotion never hurt anybody. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 01:39:18 -0600 From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......> Subject: Re: flower power >Anyone interested in "LC/Uncle/Nightcrawler For Pres" bumperstickers??? We >should make some 'cause I sure do hate our choices this year and I am >rebelling. I will write Uncle in on my ballot if I must!! Oh, oui! I agree on the "choices" (if they must be so called). And on the stickers. If anyone can get some printed up, I'd certainly buy a stack! Cousin "Susan" Phoenix phoenix@i....... ***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire*** Human interaction was monitored by the Inter Planetary Psychiatric Association. The body count was high, the casualties are heavy. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 02:54:54 -0500 From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......> Subject: Re: bumper stickers > >Anyone interested in "LC/Uncle/Nightcrawler For Pres" bumperstickers??? Certainly. Plus, if we're to go USA w/ Uncle, I'd love to see one that says, "UNCLE WANTS YOU!" (w/ the pointing hand or something), then Vote Nightcrawler, or whatever. (Or, "You WILL vote LaCroix" <thump thump>). :) Kim flowper@o....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 03:53:12 -0500 From: Rebecca Howle <JHHowle@a.......> Subject: E mail addy's for Sci-fi & USA Network. I don't know if anyone posted this recently, because I'm way behind on reading the digests that seem to be rapidly filling up my hard drive, but here are the e mail addresses for the 2 networks. USA- USA033A@p....... Sci-fi Channel USA032A@p....... Remember the feedback addy for Sci-fi. Who doesn't even know the freaking running order of FK! feedback@w....... Remember write these people, like most of you I don't get the Sci-fi Channel and doubt very seriously that it will be added to my cable system (darn D.C. cable!) but I have already e mailed both USA and SF and received no response. In addition I have also posted a note publicly on the USA BB on Prodigy but still haven't heard anything! Here's hoping that maybe if they get sick and tired of all of us which they probably already are, maybe they'll run FK (all 3 seasons) on USA. I know it's wishful thinking but hey, I can dream can't I? Rebecca H.G. for the Shrewthering, Dark Knightie- all the fun of liking Nick without all the guilt and angst! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:07:45 -0500 From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......> Subject: Re: YKTB . . . Cousin Diana wrote: > 'The Do Something BRICK Award.' (Sponsored by Mademoiselle) > > I quote: "In addition to receiving a grant, each of the ten winners will be > presented with The BRICK, a symbol of their commitment to laying he > foundation for a stronger community." Come to think of it, I have a BRICK that my university thought would make a good 'award' at graduation. I think it's tucked in a dusty corner, but now it will hold a new significance for me, as a (dark) knightie... Not that it didn't cause me enough angst, being a reminder of university. Kim flowper@o....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:21:36 -0500 From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......> Subject: Re: N.B. Speech Carla wrote: > I missed Nigel Bennett's acceptance speech. I've got most of the last > couple of weeks saved to disk, if not printed out--but am short on time to > "comb my records". Could some kind soul give me a *clue*....like the date > it was posted?? I think March 10; I can fwd it to you if you send me your e-mail address. Kim flowper@o....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 06:48:44 PST From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......> Subject: FW: Re: FK mouse pad Oh well, it *seemed* like a neat idea.... Thanks for the info... ---------------Original Message--------------- On Wed, Mar 13, 1996 9:27:01 PM, Sherri Lynn Godsey wrote: >I thought perhaps pictures taken off the web or received from fan clubs might >be usable. It would be nice if people could get mouse pads with their >favorite FK character. Just a warning.... I know from experience that most companies will NOT touch a copyrighted image. Any one/place that does duplicate copyrighted material without written proof that its use has been permitted by the copyright holder can be held liable for infringement themselves. Even graphics/photos off the web and many from fan clubs are copyrighted. EVERYTHING FK is copyrighted. Examples of exceptions are pictures taken at conventions of actors - not characters, i.e. - a picture of Ger is OK but Ger as Nick is not - though NOT ok are the pictures specifically done by his fan club. Artwork of any kind that mimics a copyrighted image can not be done (i.e.- a friend of mine did artwork for a fan zine of Riddler from Batman Forever. It was her original work but not her original character-no go!) In order to get copyrighted material copied you must have a letter granting permission from the holder of the copyright. (It must be on letterhead stationery for most places to accept it.) This is almost impossible to get for TV or movies. (In fact, I've never heard of it being done.) Almost everything "fannish" is a copyright infringement. Any use of the FK logo, characters, story line is an infringement on the copyright. Few "owners" exercise their rights when it comes to fans because we're too small to worry about - what's a $15 fan item compared to the amount they expend on a show? And, fans generate a lot of free publicity. But a few have been issued "cease & desist" orders from unhappy owners - Battlestar Galactica fans and Star Wars fans were told 'hands off'. I've seen the court order one fanzine writer/editor got. I've dealt with this several times. I make personalized mousepads myself. I can't get FK pictures done at any of the copy centers near me - even when they're for charity (charity auctions for the Geraint Wyn Davis Fan club). Family type photos, snap shots, etc. are no problem. Cartoons, professional photographer's shots, etc. are no go. I finally resorted to buying a printer that can handle B&W transfer paper and at some point I'll be able to do color (whenever I figure out the memory!!!!!!!). Ocaoin@u....... ----------End of Original Message---------- **Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. "Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had such friends" in Forever Knight. "Independence lies as much in not being led as in not being driven..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 06:50:49 PST From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......> Subject: Re: FK website wins award I think its wonderful that your efforts were rewarded in this way, Gaylin! Keep up the good work! **Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. "Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had such friends" in Forever Knight. "Independence lies as much in not being led as in not being driven..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 06:53:06 PST From: Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......> Subject: FW: FK and SFC ---------------Original Message--------------- Sharon wrote: I intend to drop both USA and SFC a note to that effect tomorrow, on the one hand thanking them for airing the reruns, and on the other reminding them that I still would very much like them to reconsider their decision about new episodes of FK. I'm also going to urge them to run FK on both USA and SFC so that more people can find it. And I'm going to cc my letters to TriStar. ----------End of Original Message---------- I agree with Jami that we have to jumpstart our efforts again, and I think this is a good approach Sharon. Now that USA has signed the marriage contract for FK, they're going to have to accept the stepchildren that come with the deal -- let them see that we aren't quiet little children who will be spoon-fed whatever they're willing to give. *Politely* keep pushing and pushing and *pushing* about the new eps and airing on the USA channel. Everyone. We've got e-mail address and snail-mail addresses, so everyone use them. I'm fortunate because I get the Sci-Fic Channel, but I have to admit that except for Quantum Leap, its rather boring to have *nothing* but old shows and reruns on that station. We should encourage KK and RP with the concept of *new blood* to give that channel some pulse -- ie. new eps of FK! And a movie! As someone else noted, never even a form letter from them! Or from TriStar. A rather impolite group of people, if you ask me. As Jami noted, perhaps we can turn the tables and become important enough as "fans" of the Sci-Fic channel to finally be listened to, to finally, maybe, get a response. For those who don't get the Sci-Fic Channel, keep up the concerted effort to get your cable companies to carry it. Which is probably what KK was hoping for all along.... SLG **Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS. "Think where man's glory most begins and ends, and say my glory was I had such friends" in Forever Knight. "Independence lies as much in not being led as in not being driven..." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:27:27 EST From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......> Subject: Re: Tristar joke Muldy wrote: " "All Tristar execs are issues new cars without a driver's seat or a steering wheel, why, you may ask? Because they have lost their asses and don't know which way to turn." Oh Muldy - (giggle, giggle, scream) I just read this first thing this morning and it just made my day!! Thank you!! Dotti R knightie 4-Ever ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:42:38 +0000 From: Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......> Subject: (Fwd) Re: SFC address On 14 Mar 96 at 22:25, Sharon A. Himmanen wrote: > Do we have a snail mail address for SFC? Karen? <g> > Well, since you asked... USA Networks [Address & phone number removed] Some names of executives follow, but it rather looks like we're back to writing to our Ol' buddy, Kay Koplovitz! She'll be so glad to hear from us! PARTNER: Electric, Matsushita /Ltd General Partner PRESIDENT: Koplovitz, Kay /Pres-Ceo VICE PRESIDENT: Olson, Tom /Vp-Advertising Sales/Sci-Fi Ch Baldassare, Frank /VPres-Controller Hamilton, Doug L /Cfo-V Pres Adm EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT: Holloway, Douglas V /Ex Vp Karen, Knightie/Heartbreaker (ktobin@t......., http://www.tiac.net/users/ktobin) Reference Librarian, Save Forever Knight Campaign/Almighty Address Goddess Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help, email me and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:59:17 EST From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......> Subject: Vachon's background Actually, Vachon was *not* in the Spanish military. This is because what invaded the Incan Empire (which is mostly in modern Peru rather than Mexico) was *not* the Spanish Army. Cortez, like the other Conquistador leaders, had gotten together a pack of mercenaries. Spanish state backing was limited to charters granting various rights to successful conquistadors in the spoils and/or colonial government of newly taken lands. This was a standard pattern in the early days for all the future colonial powers. The English did the same. In the case of the English, there was no standing English army as we understand the term. I don't know whether this is true of Spain or not. If it is, it means troops were raised for the specific occasion that looked like it was going to require fighting and disbanded once the situation was over. Does anyone out there know for sure about Spain?bol Before I forget, I don't mean to imply that Diane Echelbarger didn't know that about Peru vs Mexico (hi, Diane! <g>). It's just that I've seen more than one post which confused the Incas with the Aztecs, who of course were in Mexico. Younger son of a hidalgo family is probably about right for Vachon's background. This was probably a family without much money or particular influence since he was free to hire on with Cortez instead of being in some sort of government/royal service. Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble." Lisa McDavid mcdavid-lisa@s....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:12:39 -0500 From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......> Subject: Re: Message from the Sci-Fi Channel!!! The Sci-Fi Channel said by proxy: >While we will begin with season 3, we plan to begin the series again >with the pilot episode and seasons 1 & 2, once season 3 has concluded. For >this, however, we are trying to determine the EXACT CORRECT running order of >all 3 seasons' episodes. They don't *know* the running order? You mean they signed a check for the eps and didn't think to *ask*? "Let's have pot-luck FK! Everyone just bring an episode and we'll show it!" Does anyone else think that mayhaps this entire freakin' world is being run by AARDVARKS?!! Really I don't know why I chose aardvarks. I like aardvarks. Just the first animal off the top of my head. But I betcha *they* don't know the running order of FK either. The SOSFK movement seems to me to be the most organized and well-planned force on the planet at this moment. I'm just frustrated as hell. Wicked Cousin Tippi "Donate to the WCT Sci-Fi Channel fund! Send your college tuition, dowries, and pocket change to Tippi today!" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:42:16 -0800 From: Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......> Subject: Re: greetings one and all Sandra Gray wrote: > But since you announced that you were going to call the Mercs, don't > you think if something happens, you'll be the first suspect anyway? :) > Then, of course, she'll have to hire a Merc to get back at you, etc., > etc. Good for business. > Pretty soon all the attacks will just be done by Mercs. I fail to see the flaw here.... ;-) > Too bad they got that "can't attack other Mercs" clause or factions > could just have Mercs attacking rival Mercs like Rock 'Em, Sock 'Em > Robots and we could just sit back and watch. ;) Rock 'em, Sock 'em -ROBOTS-? ROBOTS????? I think not. All that angst has obviously gone to your head. Being a true Mercenary, with the calling to do good for others (with chocolate as a side benefit) requires quite a bit more style, panache, and general intelligence than getting one's head bopped off. <sigh> ;-) -- Lisa Reeves @-->--->--- | ad483@d....... GDFN Help Staff | Mercenary for Chocolate Save Forever Knight! Site for details: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:59:28 -0500 From: Beth Washington <Beth_Washington@a.......> Subject: Read Before Hostory Note Greetings to all! I have finally written the article I promised I would, a brief history of vampires. It's amazing the things I discovered in the little bit of research I did. Once I started reading, I couldn't stop. The note, entitled "History of the Vampire" is long, and contains fact based on the books that I read. I was disappointed that I didn't find alot of information about modern day vampires, especially about how they are made. It seems that in the old days, vampires were not made by being biten on the neck, or sucking another vampire's blood. And it also seems that every movie and novel out these days, handles this differently. I was, however, able to find most of the background leading up to the other modern day vampire traits and abilities. Enjoy reading it, and remember, this is an abbreviated article, since I didn't want to post a novel to the list. There is alot more info swimming around in my head, not to mention all of the books I haven't read yet (but hope to some day when I have time to sit in the library for a while). Please feel free to rip, shred, destroy, and what ever other form of affectionate critisism you want to share. I by no means claim to be an authority on the subject, I just thought it would be interesting to do some research into the history of the vampire, especially after the few threads that have been on the list lately. -Cousin Beth aka Biffer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is good. Beth Washington This is real good! Quality Assurance Engineer -Tempus Avid Technology, Tewksbury, MA from Lois & Clark Beth_Washington@a....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:02:21 -0500 From: Beth Washington <Beth_Washington@a.......> Subject: History of the Vampire The History of the Vampire An article by Beth Washington The modern day vampire, with it's romantic seductiveness and awesome power, is very different from it's ancestors, originating in the early 16th century. The tales of blood sucking monsters, or living dead, are dated back even further than the 16th century, and all over the world, from England, to Japan, to Africa. Despite the classic image that Bram Stoker paints with Dracula, which has become the modern standard for vampires, not all of the vampires from history past rose from the dead to feed on live victims, or transform themselves into bats. In the earliest of times, people believed that the soul lived long past when the body dies, and that it sometimes had enough power to re-animate the body. In other cases, it was believed that once the soul had left the body, and before burial, the body was vulnerable to wandering evil spirits, which would use the body to fulfill a blood lust that could not be satisfied while the spirit was incorporeal. In either case, precautions were made to protect the dead, and to stop the possibility of the dead rising from the grave. In the case where the body was re-animated by a wandering spirit, it was believed that the body was vulnerable due to the way it died, either the person had given himself over to evil during his life time and was a convicted criminal, or the person committed suicide, which is a mortal sin. In this case, the vampire is soulless, thus it has no shadows or reflections in the mirror, for only a living creature with a soul can have those things. The fear of crucifixes, and in the old times, the fear of silver, which was used to make religious objects, stemmed from the sins committed by the person before becoming a vampire. Suicide was the ultimate sin against Heaven, for which there was no forgiveness. The presence of religious symbols repels the vampire, reminding him of his lost soul and the crimes committed against heaven. In all cases, the blood lust, the ever desire to drink blood, comes from the very old belief that blood was the elixir of life, and could cure various ailments. Among these ailments was a type of anemia called Porphyria, for which drinking blood was considered a way of driving the disease out. A couple of the symptoms of this disease where an extreme sensitivity to sunlight, and a retraction of the gums that exposes the teeth -- both being classic vampire traits. Porphyria was also rare, and it was an inherited disease, which lead to the belief of vampires running in families. People believed that vampires, though having hideous breath, were repelled by strong odors, thus garlic was used, as well as other strong smelling herbs. The earliest vampire like creatures we can find in history were the *edimmu* from the ancient Babylonians. These were troubled souls that could not rest, who wandered the earth searching for victims whose veins could be sucked. These restless souls were a result of the person, during life, angering Lilith, the first wife of Adam who was banished from Eden. She became a demon and swept down to drink the blood of helpless infants and children. The Chinese believed in the *qiang shi*, which inhabited a corpse and prevented it from decaying by ingesting blood of other corpses and living people. This creature was believed to need only a skeleton, even as little as just a skull in order to be a vampire. Cats were believed to carry these spirits, and care was taken to keep cats away from the dead, to avoid a transference of the *qiang shi* from the cat to the body. The Chinese also believed that if the sun or moon was allowed to shine on the corpse, the spirit would gain in strength. The ancient Greeks talked of the *empusa*, a demonic spirit, and the *lamia*, a beautiful young woman who seduced young men, both looking for the fresh blood of children. In the 19th century, the Greeks belief in vampires was so strong, now called *vrykolkas*, that bodies were dug up as many as 3 years after burial to check the condition of the body of a suspected vampire. Near the island of Santorini, where bodies where buried in volcanic ash, the ash preserved the bodies quite well, so when they were dug up, the lack of decay confirmed the suspicion of vampirism. It was still believed that these vampires carried some evil spirit, and not the soul of the deceased, so there was no hesitation in beheading the corpse and setting it afire. However, most *vrykolkas* came for reasons other than seeking out the living and sucking blood. It was often believed that it was because the soul could not rest, and was either coming back to make things right, or to seek revenge against a wrong done against them or their families. In one case it was reported that a woman cursed the grave of her dead son because he did no fulfill his promise to find her daughter and return her. The dead son rose from the grave, found the daughter, and fulfilled his promise. The mother then removed the curse, and the son fell into a pile of dust. The ability to fly comes from the belief that vampires had the ability to shape change into an owl, not a bat, which was Stoker's invention for Dracula. It was also believed that another favorite form was becoming a cat. The Chinese believed that concubine vampires that hung around the palace, would shrink out of their Kimonos into cat form and slip away, to avoid being caught. One could recognize such a creature for what it was because the cat had 2 tails. Due to the superstitious nature of people, and their devotion to religion, the belief in vampires grew, spread, and evolved. There were people who thought themselves vampires, and then there were others accused of being vampires because of some oddity. The methods for executing a vampire were many and varied. The most popular was to cut off the head, place it between the legs of the body, then burn it to ashes and spread the ashes. A stake through the heart could "kill" a vampire, but only if it wasn't removed. It was even rumored that a vampire can return from being burned if the ashes are not dispersed. As far as the sun killing vampires, it was never part of the vampire history. Due to the disease, Porphyria, the extreme sensitivity to sunlight started this belief, but has been exaggerated in modern day vampires. This belief also stems from the fact that demons and evil spirits can only function during the darkness of night. Even according Bram Stoker, Dracula can function during the day, he just simply isn't as powerful and prefers cloudy days. Anne Rice describes some of her oldest vampires as having hardened skin, and are all but immune to the sun. All seem to agree that the only way to destroy a vampire fully is to decapitate it and burn it to ashes. Many of the vampire and vampire like creatures of folklore were thought to have the ability to impregnate women. The dreaded incubus and succubus, were male and female spirits who visited people in the night and engaged in vigorous, debilitating sex. The belief in these spirits was closely related to the belief in vampirism. The Greek *lamias* also sexually seduced their victims. Can vampires have children? There are even records supporting the belief that they can. In the Balkan Mountains, vampire hunters were often hired to rid the area of vampires. Some of these hunters were thought to be *dhampirs*, which were sons sired by vampires. They were said to be gifted with peculiar powers that allowed them to have power over full vampires. In the Anime "Vampire Hunter D", the main character D is a *dampiel*, a half breed, who can function during the day and choose to live as a human, but can also grow fangs, suck blood, and sport a variety of other vampire abilities His mother was a human, and his father was a noble (a vampire). Hypnotism. This belief comes from the early beliefs that demons could put their victims in a trance, rendering them helpless, though the need for this was little, since the demon also enhanced the strength of the body it inhabited. Often people accused of being vampires would plea that they were in a trance when they committed the act of murder, and did not remember doing anything. Now there are Vampire Research Centers in New York and various other places around the world, and their are even people who still believe in vampires, in one form or another. It is the persistence in the age-old fascination with the idea of vampires. The modern day vampire has been changed from the gruesome, demon possessed creature, to a romantic, seductive figure, enchanting women and stealing their life blood with a "kiss". Primary References: "Transformations", part of the Time-Life Mysteries of the Unknown series "Night Crawlers", part of the Time-Life Enchanted World series ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is good. Beth Washington This is real good! Quality Assurance Engineer -Tempus Avid Technology, Tewksbury, MA from Lois & Clark Beth_Washington@a....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 09:17:26 EST From: Catherine L Bond <cbond@l.......> Subject: Alright Nigel!!! HEY ALL!! Allright! Nigel won a Gemini! Proving that Canadians recognize that Sci-Fi/Fantasy *can* be good drama. Unlike the Emmys who never seem to "get it". BTW, I'm feeling very depressed and miss you guys terribly. Catherine Bond, who really shouldn't be doing this at work! ***************************************************************************** cbond@l....... Library of Virginia, Richmond, VA Standard disclaimers apply. Non-standard disclaimer:This is not an artichoke. ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:09:07 -0500 From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......> Subject: FK on SFC (kinda long) On thing I did hear in the aftermath of the SOSFK movement, and I can't remember where--someone may have talked to the Chicago affiliate? Anyway, apparently stations tend to discount letters about a show when they come in big batches, correctly assuming that someone is telling people to write. What we need to do when FK starts up in April is make sure USA, SFC and TriStar get a *steady* stream of mail about the show. For example, I drop a postcard to both my local affiliates every time I see a new episode of FK on their station. Since we've long maintained that we're not getting measured by the ratings system, I like to think of this as a way to indicate to them that I am watching and that I am a steady viewer. I'm not worrying too much about whether or not they'll recognize my name or not--I figure it's got to be worth something to someone if I bother to drop them a note every single week there's a new episode. It only takes a moment to scribble out a postcard. You can buy postcards with postage already on them from most stamp machines or your post office, and it's a quick and easy way to let them know you're out here. Anyway, I'd like to suggest that people start doing that as well, both for the rest of 3rd season in syndication and when it moves to SFC. It's probably what we should have been doing last fall when FK moved to USA but most of us thought we'd be OK for at least a 4th season. This also means spreading the word about the show and getting any new people to start writing as well. We also might be able to get SFC to do a piece on FK fandom and the charity on one of their shows, like "Sci-Fi Buzz" or something so that people know we're out here. Sharon -- Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help save it, check out http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email ASAP! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:09:55 -0800 From: choff@v....... Subject: Re: A perfect Nick/Nat song This one I can't resist. Those of you who know me know why. On Thu, 14 Mar 1996, Muldy Sculler wrote: > the lapels and gave me a shake. M. Etheridge's "I Want to Come Over" is > the story of Nick and Nat all the way. Give it a listen when you can. Gee. I might be just being silly, but I always thought that song was about lesbians who wanted to come out. Strange, but that doesn't strike me as having a THING to do with Nick and Nat. Cynthia Cynthia Hoffman, Proud Raven choff@v....... Surely you are old enough by now to understand the difference between "not guilty" and "innocent." Janette, Fate Worse than Death ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:19:46 -0400 From: Stapleton <d7ux@u.......> Subject: Search for name of FKFIC story. I'm looking for the name of a FKFIC story that was posted back I think maybe in January. It had Tracy bring everyone - mortals and vampires alike - to the Raven to write letters to TPTB. A friend of mine is very much interested in reading it, but I no longer have it on my disks, and can't remember what it was called. If someone could help me, it'd be great. Then I could go look it up. Lynn Stapleton d7ux@u....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:53:45 -0700 From: Dorothy Elggren <delggren@m.......> Subject: SLC Party Quote List Even though this is a little late, I finally got the quote list from the SLC Forever Knight party held in February. I have included here the best of them--yeah practically everything we said was a great quote. Anyone who attended (or didn't for that matter) who wants the complete quote list email me. Thanks to everyone who came and made it a great night! ---------------------------------------------------------------- Hello my name is Nick. He had to be the hero. All of us are... computer people. Is this one of the few that doesn't have prostitutes... they're usually about lunatics and prostitutes. Danger - vampire in flashback mode. He's glowing! Vampires never wear turtlenecks. Does Natalie ever hit anybody? I think Natalie and Janette should get together and beat the @#$@# out of Nick. It's kind of like the smoke that he didn't inhale... he drank but he didn't swallow. He's going to become a blood-aholic. The smoking coat! Haven't you ever heard of smoking jackets. Life can go on for eternity but you can't have any sex in it. Boy that would put a crimp on eternity. Nick is a wuss. Natalie can beat up both of them. He's glowing again. He's radioactive. There's chocolate? I think Schanke is galactically stupid on the level of Lois Lane. Schanke is so romantic... a caring and nurturing guy. Is this a flashback? I thought vampires were the only ones to have them. She's been around Nick so long that... Oh sure, be all nice and romantic with every one else but Natalie... that's why he needs a beating. Necrophilia... she's not gone that far yet. you have to think about it though.. Nick is practically dead. He's such a messy dude. it's the teeth. Where'd the chocolate go? You eat in the computer lab? We have a big enforcer in ours. Just smack him real hard! (smack) Yeah!!!! It's not chocolate is it? She should hit him again... she never gets to hit anybody. It's one of those minor things like forgetting to put down your toilet seat. You say that's minor? Even though he is psychopath he is a good kisser. How come he's always flying in circles? He's directionally challenged. He's scuffing her shoes.. that's what we call insensitive. Women don't ever tell us anything they just signal. We should be able to just say the same. BUTTON!!!!!! She's not really a vampire. She's been faking it for 800 years. The cameraman must have really needed to go to the bathroom. Anyone else get dizzy during that scene? Ger needs to get David Duchovny's haircut. That'd be cool. I really, really like it when people smack Nick. Ooooooh, she's even using Nick's last name! Let's see how good a cop she really is. Can she figure out who it is? She can be taught! Why is she cowering? Janette doesn't cower! I gotta learn how to do that hypno-thing. Lying in the sun? I don't think so. Lying in the Florida moon maybe. Nick, if you could only hear the music, you'd know they were evil. Yes, great sex is the key to mortality. Yeah, Nat's probably thinking, All this time I've been using science, and all I had to do was sleep with him? First 200 years were bliss, and then....And then she met Nick. Meanwhile, Tracy's still trying to think. A thought crossed her head! Yeah, but then it hurt, so she ignored it. I love that look on his face...Reese interrupted the perfect dream! Wuss. He's a wuss. C'mon Nat, you know you want to. BLOOPER REEL! YES! This is a genuine...copy? I didn't know that the caddy could do warp speed. Who's the incubis in this program? The what? Ah, there's a clew. Oh, reel your tongue back in, mister. Schanke never been to a strip joint before? Jeez. I've been intoxicated by the power of the lap-top. Suck her blood, Nick, suck her blood! PIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *whisper* **The answer to #3 is 81kilo.** Schanke is pretty Schanke. Then one day Tracy dies... *wild applause* Maybe she'll get it! Go Tracy! Button's taking charge. He needs to exercise his teeth more. Chinese tonight! Nicks gonna do it!!! Do it!!! come on Nick Do it ,Do it, do it!!! Immortality is no excuse to have bad breath. We hate you USA. The William Shatner overacting award. Here comes the best scene in the whole show... what she slaps him. You know... there still not sure who Shakespeare was.. Maybe it was Lacroix. And Poe was such a tortured soul. It was probably Nick. We know where LaCroix gets his blood... used and discarded cousins. If I had the hypno-thingy I might actually have dates. The fangs have been surgically enhanced to get more pleasure. Submit your will to me!... Boy thats a pick up line if I ever heard one. Oh this is kinda like my fangs are bigger than your fangs. Look, he's not wearing a shirt in this one. Are you getting your thrills yet? THere are no mistakes in FK...It's bloody perfect. THey wear black because vampires in paisely are not very sinister There are women who give hints/signals then there's Kayleen. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:07:15 -0500 From: Jamie Melody Randell <Immajer@a.......> Subject: LIST RULES: Stay On Topic A brief restatement of list policy, from your friendly neighborhood listowner (working off a secondary account): FORKNI-L and its companion lists are dedicated to the discussion of Forever Knight ONLY. Discussion of other vampire shows, or of vampires in general, do not belong on this list. There are other mailing lists devoted specifically to vampires and vampire lore. Postings relating to vampires in general should be directed to one of these outlets. But if it ain't about FK specifically, it shouldn't be here. That's how it goes. With affection, Jamie the assistant listowner somewhere on the Eastern Seaboard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:24:35 +0100 From: "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......> Subject: FK CD Help! Would some kind soul e-mail me privately with the CD ordering info? Thank you thank you thank you . . . Cousin Jean <jkennedy@t.......> "Would that she were a less annoying woman." - LaCroix ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:42:57 -0500 From: Beth Washington <Beth_Washington@a.......> Subject: Re: LIST RULES: Stay On Topic Jamie reminded us, and specifically me; >FORKNI-L and its companion lists are dedicated to the discussion of >Forever Knight ONLY. Discussion of other vampire shows, or of vampires >in general, do not belong on this list. I beg to differ where it came to my post. There were several discussions going on about vampires in general, problems with the sun, soulless vs. having one, fangs, being brought across, the ability to fly, etc. People were citing examples that would explain where these things came from. My note was in response to all of those threads, all of which were not directly about Forever Knight. My article was written to give the fans of Forever Knight some insight into the rich history that ultimately lead to modern day vampires, and our favorites, Nick, LaCroix, Jeanette, and Vachon. >There are other mailing lists devoted specifically to vampires and >vampire lore. Postings relating to vampires in general should be >directed to one of these outlets. But vampire lore is the basis for Forever Knight. Couldn't Nick's cure be buried deep in the history of vampires, somewhere, just waiting to be found. >But if it ain't about FK specifically, it shouldn't be here. That's >how it goes. Does anyone agree with me? I am new to this list and I thought the topic was relevant to FK. Next time I will know better.... I've never been much of a lurker... maybe it's time to start. -Cousin Beth aka Biffer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is good. Beth Washington This is real good! Quality Assurance Engineer -Tempus Avid Technology, Tewksbury, MA from Lois & Clark Beth_Washington@a....... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:51:10 -0500 From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......> Subject: The night shift in Toronto Catherine Boone said: > Nick works nights, probably along the lines of dusk to dawn. [snip] > Now, if Toronto is anything like Anchorage, the sunrise/sunset thing > varies wildly there over the course of the year, making it such that > he quite possibly could only work an hour or two in midsummer. Wow, just how far north do you think Toronto is?!? Toronto is actually further south than many parts of the U.S. It is a bit further south than Portland, Oregon, or Minneapolis, Minnesota, and is a *lot* further south than Anchorage, Alaska. Yes, the nights in summer are short in Toronto, but not *that* short. It is true that Nick might have trouble squeezing in a full 8-hour working day in, say, late June when the days are longest. (Does anyone know how long the longest day is in Toronto?) He may make up for it in the winter, or he may claim that he's going over evidence at home. Or maybe that's when he takes his annual vacation. ;^) Hmm... it is interesting to imagine the life of a vampire in Anchorage, Alaska. Able to be outdoors almost all the time in winter, but having to hide indoors virtually all the time in the summer. I suspect your average vampire wouldn't stay there the whole year 'round -- they'd summer in Tierra del Fuego or someplace like that! Now that I think about it, it's pretty obvious that Nick was lying (in "Amateur Night") when he told the Chicago police that he had been a police officer in Edinburgh, Scotland -- that city is not much further south than Anchorage, Alaska. The summer days in Scotland are extremely long, and I'm sure he would have a much harder time trying to lead a normal life there than he does in Toronto. Unless he arranged to be there only in the winter, when the sun only seems to be up for a few hours each day. I seem to remember sunsets in Scotland in late December being at 3:30 or so. Hmm.. just looking at the map, and I realized that Toronto is further south than London or Paris. * Allison Percy, Knightie percy91@w....... * * __o -- Have angst, will travel -- * * _`\<,_ Now planning the Forever Knight charity bike tour! * * (*)/ (*) see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html * * Shrewthering info: http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html * ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 15 Mar 1996 - Special issue ****************************************************
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