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Digest - 10 Mar 1996 to 11 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Mon, 11 Mar 1996
There are 39 messages totalling 1004 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. New presidential candidate. (5)
2. Fever (4)
3. Being brought over
4. New '96 FK Motor Co. Flying Vamps! (2)
5. LC Heart of Darkness quote
6. New presidential candidate--Dr. Lambert
7. Screed (3)
8. The Vaquero FAQ
9. Traders?
10. question on the painting
11. Parent Advisory (2)
12. Vamps & sun; Fangs; Dogs
13. New Game: Favourite Episodes That Never Were. (2)
14. Vampiric souls and religious Icons, etc.
15. This 'n' That
16. We, the Vampire Snack Food...
17. The Geminis (3)
18. Remember Canada? (2)
19. Nat's Parents (2)
20. ADMIN: List Web Pages.
21. natpack page
22. Carouche
23. Mollin's music plans
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:52:47 -0800
From: April Ruskin <aruskin@e.......>
Subject: Re: New presidential candidate.
Jamie Melody Randell wrote:
> I would like to nominate Dr. Natalie Lambert for the office of President.
>
> She is caring and compassionate -- motivated mainly by integrity and high
> moral standards, yet skilled at the 'cover-up', a necessary talent for a
> political candidate -- and perhaps most importantly, she could actually
> pass a medical check. And attend official functions during the day, and
> *eat* at the banquets, and so forth...
>
> And then Nick could be the First Lady.
>
> <running, running for cover as fast as my little legs will carry me...>
I wish to nominate Tracy. Who knows, maybe what this country needs is a
perky president.
<Ha! I can run faster than any of you! <THUMP!> that is, when I don't
trip over my feet. No, no, please put the bat down...>
April Ruskin
aruskin@e.......
<Insert YOUR favorite tagline here>
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:40:26 -0800
From: Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Fever
At 11:40 PM 3/10/96 -0500, Stephanie Babbitt wrote:
>>what about Nat. My vote is for lavender--what do you think?
I wasn't kidding about the hot buttered popcorn, even though I was delirious
at the time of my post. I think gardenias are more Nat's style though, if
you want a flower scent. They have a fresh, open sort of smell. The scent
of roses can be so cloying at times.
But what about the vampires? What do they smell like?
Dona Bonnela, Vaquera
(bonnie@o.......)
"Do you trust me?" -- JDV
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:25:10 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Being brought over
We have been shown more than one way for people to be brought over
on FK. One is by the vampire draining someone almost to death, then
having that person drink the vampire's blood. However, a variation
of this was in first season's Fatal Mistake. Nick "partied" with a
barmaid in the flashback, bit her, and thought he'd killed her. LC
came along, found she wasn't quite dead (but she was definitely very
unconscious), drained some of his blood into a cup and *at the first
taste* of it on her lips, her eyes flew open. In second season's
Bad Blood, we see evidence that LC can bring someone across by
accident. LC attacked someone who proved to be Jack the Ripper, but
found his blood made him ill (so ill he needed Janette's help to get
fresh blood). He also sensed that Jack was evil and wanted Nick to
go and make sure the man was dead. Nick goes to look at Jack, but
doesn't do anything. After he leaves, Jack wakes up a vampire. In
the same episode, Jack in the present day "kills" a black woman
rookie cop, who is shown to have also been brought over at the end
of the ep (this without any evidence that Jack had her drink his
blood). In two episodes (first season's If Looks Could Kill and
this season's Fallen Idol) we have seen people experience either non-
aging or some other "healing" from *small* quantities of vampire
blood being injected into them. *Drinking* vampire blood without
benefit of being attacked might not bring someone over, but I think
that there might be a possibility that a sufficient amount *injected*
could work since such small amounts have "healing" effects (people
got the benefits without becoming vampires themselves). LC also
seemed to bring over Alyce Hunter in Dark Knight 2 without having
her drink his blood, as Nick did Serena in second season's Baby,
Baby. I don't think Perry had Jody drink his blood in Blind Faith
either. :)
Hmmm, I feel like I've forgotten something, but I can't think what.
Oh, well. I don't remember it being established anywhere that
someone drinking a pint of vampire blood wouldn't become a vampire.
Since we've seen cases where someone drained a lot and then drinking
vampire blood can come across, perhaps there could be a point where
someone could ingest enough vampire blood to come over (although
why one would do so...bleh!) without having been attacked first.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 00:26:14 EST
From: MS IDALIA KAKESAKO <NPYF15B@p.......>
Subject: New '96 FK Motor Co. Flying Vamps!
On Sat., March 9th, Jamie M. R. wrote:
>... vampire flight can't be explained by anything other than
telekinesis: they have no wings, and are not aerodynamic ...<
New for 1996, the FK Motor Company proudly presents the
newly restyled Flying Vampire! You told us you wanted
greater speed at take-off, softer landings, and easier
maneuverability--and we listened. The dramatically
restyled, creatively engineered, aerodynamic 1996 Flying
Vampire. Several models to choose from! Ask for them by
name!
(back to your regularly scheduled list, already in progress)
Idalia
<IdaliaK@p.......>
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 20:36:17 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fever
I always thought Nick would have a clean scent with a little spice for a
nice touch.
Barbara
P.S. Lisa K. mail came back marked "no such person at this address"--I am
one confused knightie
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:43:42 -0500
From: Mindja Manners <DrManners@a.......>
Subject: Re: LC Heart of Darkness quote
Yes he said it. I have it on tape from the original showing and the rerun. If
you missed it, here it is! BTW, forgive my french.
LC: Let us peel back the layers, let us strip away the last vestiges of
decorum and civility. Oui mais ami (sp?), it s amateur night at the Raven and
tonight our amateurs will reveal their inner selves by getting naked.
DrManners@a.......
>#: Katya wrote:
> :What "Let's get naked" line? Both times I saw Hearts of Darkness there
> :was no dialogue until Vachon started talking to Urs - something like "If
> :she's an amateur I'm a vegetarian".
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Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:37:32 -0500
From: Chana Rossman <bonney@i.......>
Subject: Re: New presidential candidate--Dr. Lambert
Jamie M.R. wrote
>I would like to nominate Dr. Natalie Lambert for the office of President.
>She is caring and compassionate -- motivated mainly by integrity and high
>moral standards, yet skilled at the 'cover-up', a necessary talent for a
>political candidate --
Although I would love to see a person with Natalie's high integrity
and high intelligence in the office of President, I should think
it would be just those two qualities which would cause her to have
more sense than to want to even try it.
>And then Nick could be the First Lady.
hehehe :-)
Chana
BTW, come to think of it -- aren't Nick, Natalie, Janette, and LaCroix
all Canadian residents? Could be a problem for someone planning
to run for the office of U.S. President -eh?
bonney@i.......
If life were easy, then just anybody could do it.
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:51:14 -0500
From: Ann Scura <Vaqueras@a.......>
Subject: Screed
Hey,
>In Fever we're told that he was a sailor...and from some of his
>comments, it sounded like he was brought across while he
>was on board a ship...and on a ship
During some of his near unintelligible rambling, didn't Screed
mention that his first kill was a "Dingo?" Isn't that a little kangaroo,
like a wallaby? Not too many of those on ships I wouldn't think.
We may have been reading Screed all wrong. If the dingo thing is
true, then Screed may be Australian and not cockney like I thought.
Maybe he was deported there from England as a criminal. That
would account for the accent.
What do you think?
Ann Scura
*Vaquera*
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 00:51:24 EST
From: TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: The Vaquero FAQ
I have at least two returned mail items. So if you have asked for a
Vaquero FAQ and not received it yet could you please re-contact me so I
can send it back to you. Thank you
Dona Torrey
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:53:28 -0500
From: Cal <calm@a.......>
Subject: Re: Screed
On Mon, 11 Mar 1996, Ann Scura wrote:
> "Dingo?" Isn't that a little kangaroo,
> like a wallaby?
Right continent, wrong species. A dingo is a wild dog.
Cal
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:10:15 -0600
From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: New '96 FK Motor Co. Flying Vamps!
At 12:26 AM 3/10/96 EST,IdaliaK@p....... wrote:
>New for 1996, the FK Motor Company proudly presents the
>newly restyled Flying Vampire! You told us you wanted
>greater speed at take-off, softer landings, and easier
>maneuverability--and we listened. The dramatically
>restyled, creatively engineered, aerodynamic 1996 Flying
>Vampire. Several models to choose from! Ask for them by
>name!
Does it come with fins?
Annmarie
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:19:41 -0500
From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Traders?
I don't know if this is an appropriate sort of post
(apologies if not), but I'm seeking people interested in
trading FK cast non-FK roles (TV movies, misc. episodes,
*ads*, etc.). I don't have much of the above to offer myself.
I collect/archive/trade mainly British comedy (NTSC & PAL
capabilities). I've noticed the occasional Pythonesque or
Douglas Adamsy quote slipped into messages on the list,
so if there are any Python or Alternative comedy fans out there
interested in FK-BRITISH COMEDY trades, please contact me privately!
Thanks.
Kim
flowper@o.......
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 22:14:11 -0800
From: Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......>
Subject: Re: question on the painting
At 6:41 AM 3/09/96, Andrea Baroco wrote:
>Anyhow, I was
>wondering if anone could tell me if there was a date of creation ever
>given. I remember the episode, but I don't know the greatest details, and
>yes, I have no copy of the episode to review.
Well, it was not given a date of creation, but it was given a painter,
Leonardo da Vinci. So (running to my copy of Vasari...) Leonardo lived
1452-1519. Say, probably around the early 1500's.
And since the topic was brought up, I want to say that Leonardo was a
*lousy* choice for painting Janette! Leonardo was notorious for not
finishing paintings, and there were many, *many* other painters in Italy at
the time who were far more likely to have done a portrait. Besides which,
the painting doesn't look like a Leonardo painting. I would say it looks
like Giorgione or Titian, with the soft lighting. But since Leonardo is
famous, they dropped his name in without regard to style or likeliehood.
(Whew! I got that off my chest! Now I can go back to my paper on the
differeing styles in painting between Florence and Venice in the 16th
century!) ;)
Elizabeth~~~~~~~Mercenary ;)
elewis@u.......***Lizbetann@a.......
Ravenette of the New Order--Knightie/NatPacker/N&N Packer with Cousinly
Sympathies and faint leanings towards Vanquea-ism
"Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be
Listowner, Middle Ages Life
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:39:10 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Parent Advisory
On Sun, 10 Mar 1996, Gay Eckes wrote:
> Editorial cartoon in today's Denver Post shows kids routing the TV signal
> first through the vcr to avoid the V-chip(and their parents sitting on the
> couch wondering whether to ask them to set the clock . . . )
That actually raises a very good point. What good will the chip do in
tv's if it's not in VCR's too...I know my cable is routed through my vcr
to my tv, aren't most people's?
Plus, please, I dare someone to try and convince me that children who
grow up on Gameboy and PC's can't figure out how to un-do their parents
ratings restrictions? Besides, haven't parents learned by now what
happens when you give something the mystique of "forbidden fruit?"
ObFK: Would someone please send me the phone number for Cresiendo (sp?)
so I can order Fred Molins CD? Thanks
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:45:35 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: New presidential candidate.
On Sun, 10 Mar 1996, Jamie Melody Randell wrote:
> I would like to nominate Dr. Natalie Lambert for the office of President.
<snip>
> And then Nick could be the First Lady.
> <running, running for cover as fast as my little legs will carry me...>
ROTFLMAO! She's got my vote! (Big surprise, I'm sure) But who should be her
running mate?
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:48:23 CST
From: L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Re: Screed
"Got me teeth into a squealer that first night...."
"squealer" to me implies rat...
Also, the comment about "it never felt right on land" gives the impresssion
that he lived much of his mortal life at sea.
Inside your mind, as always,
L'Phantom
--Cousin-in-training
http://bsc.edu/~jrarmstr/
Help Save Forever Knight! Ask me how! jrarmstr@b.......
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:50:14 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Vamps & sun; Fangs; Dogs
(1) Why do vampires burst into flames in the sunlight?
Those of you who remember my position on the "why do vampires sweat and
cry blood" issue will find the following very familiar.
My opinion: vampires burn in the sun because it is a Compelling Dramatic
Device, or CDD (tm). Gotta give them some weaknesses, after all, and
spontaneous combustion in the sunlight is a whopper of a weakness!
It follows as well that the CDD explains why vampires cringe from crosses
and other religious objects. ;^)
CDD works for me!
This should in no way be perceived as trying to put a damper on the
scientific vs. religious explanations everyone's having so much fun with.
The cool thing about FK's failure to provide a clear explanation for
everything -- well, practically *anything* -- is that it's left to the
fans to think and debate about!
(2) Vampire fangs and bloodsucking
While we may not know exactly how vampires suck blood from their victims,
you can see from watching it done on various episodes that it involves a
lot of effort. GWD & NB (probably the other actors, too -- I just can't
recall right now) often put a lot of intensity into the portrayal of
vampire feeding. They don't just latch onto the neck -- they shake their
heads around and snarl. Makes it look like a lot of fun!
(3) Jody, Perry, and the issue of control
As to whether Jody will be able to control the carouche Perry (since Nick
couldn't control Raleigh) -- remember that it's Perry who brought Jody
across. Perry is the vampire daddy. The real question is, can Perry
control Jody? ;^)
LaCroix has spent centuries "hounding" Nick across the face of the earth --
Perry gives this concept a whole new spin!
How do you say "Give in to what you are!" in doggie-speech? And how old
would a vampire dog be who was brought across, say, at the same time as
LaCroix? Nearly 2000, or nearly 2000 x 7 = 14,000 in doggie years?!?
* Allison Percy, Knightie percy91@w....... *
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:47:51 -0600
From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Parent Advisory
At 01:39 AM 3/11/96 -0500, Alora wrote:
>Plus, please, I dare someone to try and convince me that children who
>grow up on Gameboy and PC's can't figure out how to un-do their parents
>ratings restrictions? Besides, haven't parents learned by now what
>happens when you give something the mystique of "forbidden fruit?"
As a parent, I am against the V-chip. Its created for people who can't be
bothered to interact with their children enough to know what their doing.
I'm sorry,but I don't need the government to tell me what I should or
shouldn't let my child watch and I don't use the TV as a "babysitter",so I'm
well aware of what is being seen in my house. And to keep this on topic..how
many parents here allow their children to watch FK? I do. I wonder how many
developed their love of vampires et al through "Dark Shadows" (which I
started watching when I was around 12) and carried that over to FK?
Annmarie
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:03:28 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: New Game: Favourite Episodes That Never Were.
I'd like to have seen an ep where Nat experiments on herself with
Nick's blood and *temporarily* becomes a vampire. Sort of like
what happens in the movie To Sleep With a Vampire (not that she has
to go to bed with Nick :) necessarily). I'd like to see what insight
she'd get into Nick's condition if that happened to her.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:04:20 -0800
From: Frisson <frisson@i.......>
Subject: Vampiric souls and religious Icons, etc.
OK, I had to jump in here. This is turning out to be a great discussion. ;-)
Wade wrote:
>>I'd like to think of it as being a reaction of the
>>vampire to the vast amount of 'faith' put into the symbol
An allergy to faith? I have to believe that this reaction to religious
symbols is purely psychological. Case in point -- _For I Have Sinned._ At
first, Nick is flinching away from a small silver cross pendant. A couple
of scenes (and about 24 hours or so) later, he is hearing Schanke's
confession in the confessional of a Catholic church during the day. I do
not believe that he somehow either rid himself of a physical 'faith
allergy,' or managed to bring enough goodness into his 'evil' soul in this
short amount of time.
>>So, the sizzle when coming in
>>contact with religious symbols is a product of the vampire's inherit
>>'soulessness' or 'evilness' coming in contact with something that had
>>been imbued with the belief and souls of hundreds of peoples. =)
If I believed that Vampires lacked a soul, or were inherently evil, there
would be absolutely no reason for me to watch FK. In the first place, if
Nick is lacking a soul, then his quest for redemption (I believe that he
really wants redemption, *not* mortality) would be utterly pointless. I do
want to see Nick redeemed, but as a *Vampire.* I believe this will happen
if he accepts himself and all of his actions. However, if he does not have
a soul, we've all pretty much wasted three years with FK haven't we?
(Because Nick will never be mortal and LC, Janette, Vachon, etc are really
evil. OK, maybe the Fods and Perkulators haven't been wasting time. ;-);-))
Or is there anyone out there (and I'm asking, not flaming) who believes that
FK Vampires are truly evil and should be destroyed? Because if they are
truly evil, with no hope of redemption, then what is left but to destroy
them, or let them destroy us? That is IMO, bad horror movie stuff and
decidedly *not* _Forever Knight._
Keep in mind that mortality, IMO, has absolutely nothing to do with
redemption. As a matter of fact, I've always considered the lines "Now he
wants to be mortal again/To repay society for his sins" to be a
non-sequitur. Nick can want both, of course, but one does not necessarily
follow, or have anything to do with, the other. (IMO)
Thanks for the discussion,
Cousin Diana "Is that any way to greet your *Saviour,* Nicholas?
mercenary LaCroix-- Night In Question
Frisson@i.......
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 02:24:47 EST
From: MS CHRISTINA L KAMNIKAR <VQRW76A@p.......>
Subject: This 'n' That
My favorite theory on how vampires fly is Jamie's Angst Threshold.
:) (Nick stands on building, watching evil-doer on next skyscraper: "I am
an evil person, and I need to be redeemed... if I catch that bad guy, I'm
one step closer to humanity, therefore it's important that I bring him to
justice..." ANGST THRESHOLD ACHIEVED. We have liftoff!!!)
Which is not to say I don't enjoy the biology discussions. I do. I'm just
realizing it's like high school physics: none of it will ever be totally
proved to my satisfaction. (Yeah, right, protons, neutrons, orbits, speed
of rotation... you're just trying to see how gullible I am, aren't you?)
Anyone seen BEYOND REALITY? Not only does Fred Mollin do the music
for it (and a nicely creepy job it is, too, Fred) but I just caught Geordie
"The Jerry Show" Johnson from MBiaV and Dixie Seatle on it. Dixie Seatle
was Mona on ADDERLY and she was the mayoral candidate who didn't win on
FK's first season ep SPIN DOCTOR. Hey, if we watch often enough, you never
know... Nigel or Deb or GWD or Catherine might show up. The show's some
paranormal investigation drama with Shari Belafonte-Harper (? Or is she
just Shari Belafonte again?), as far as I can tell. Check it out. You never
know.
Christina, vqrw76a@p....... Merc at work at CERK, looking for job at
"The Jerry Show"..."Writing is like prostitution. First you do it for love.
Then you do it for your friends. Then you do it for money."- Mark Twain (?)
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:35:34 -0500
From: Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject: Re: Fever
Dona Bonnie Wrote:
>Well, you are what you eat, right? So, Nat's blood should smell like hot
>buttered popcorn. <ewg>
>
oh boy, then my blood should be toxic to vamps (I eat LOTS of garlic) So my
blood would smell like an italian restaurant.
Cousin Mel
NatVampCamp
Founder of Valentines-http://ansel.mm.informed.net/~virtual/team1/val.html
miss68@p....... or Penchk68@a.......
"Oh, I want him. I want him...dead."-Me, Interview with the Nightcrawler, Part6
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:50:29 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: New presidential candidate.
>> I would like to nominate Dr. Natalie Lambert for the office of President.
<snip>
>ROTFLMAO! She's got my vote! (Big surprise, I'm sure) But who should be her
>running mate?
How about Uncle?
Sorry. I just got done reading a ton of Lurker Fic. Sound of Music on the
brain...
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
Mistress Liver of the Malkavian Geld.
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Who needs morals when you have a sense of humor?
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:56:20 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: Fever
>oh boy, then my blood should be toxic to vamps (I eat LOTS of garlic) So my
>blood would smell like an italian restaurant.
This gonna turn into a long thread, I know it.
I'd be Breakfast of Japanese and College Vampyres due to lots of sushi and
rice rolls, and even more ramen and dry cereal. Smells fishy to me...
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
Mistress Liver of the Malkavian Geld.
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Who needs morals when you have a sense of humor?
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:10:01 -0600
From: The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>
Subject: Re: New presidential candidate.
>We need a campaign slogan. How about "LaCroix's our pick in '96"?
No, no, it needs to be more ... uh, well, UNCLE. Something like, "It's time
for a president with experience, leadership, and immunity to assassins," and
under it a big, Citizen Kane-oid picture of Uncle, with fangs and the whole
sheblam, and the word LACROIX.
I'll go now.
Cousin "Susan" Phoenix
phoenix@i.......
Mistress Liver of the Malkavian Geld.
***Mad Scientist Somewhat-Extraordinaire***
Who needs morals when you have a sense of humor?
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:09:48 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: We, the Vampire Snack Food...
On Mar 11, 1996 01:56:20, 'The Other Immortal <phoenix@i.......>' wrote:
>This gonna turn into a long thread, I know it.
Yeah, can't'cha just see it coming? <g>
Tonight's rerun of Trophy Girl got me thinking on this, too: the remarks
about preparing one's meal (is that sorta like marinating a rump roast? or
that thing they say, about immersing lobsters in a vat of wine before
boiling them?) -- I personally ingest massive amounts of caffeine and
nicotene, and I've often wondered how this would affect the physiology of
any vampire who decided to take me to dinner. The same with the various
prescription drugs I've taken... Anne Rice-ian vampires were affected by
things found in their victims' bloodstreams; I've never been shy about
swiping stuff from her canon to apply to FK when it looks like it might be
fun to do so (apparently, neither have the FK people) and I've often
thought how helpful it might be for Nick, how constructive, if he found
some nice mortal to sip from who just happened to be taking a high dosage
of antidepressants... <g>
But beyond the simple question of food is the issue of blood chemistry and
vampiric tastebuds: might not certain blood diseases be particularly
distasteful (or palatable) to vampires? Since their perception of food
differs from ours, it makes sense that they would 'taste' things in the
blood that a non-sanguiniverous species wouldn't be equipped to detect.
However: in keeping on the original light-hearted thread (there's another
one dissecting vampire biology already, right?) I would have to estimate
that I would taste like coffee, cranberry juice or cigarettes... or some
weird hybrid mix of the three. Which might be even more effective than
garlic in inducing vampires to run for their lives... <g>
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** Check back after her Saturn Return on April Fool's Day. **
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Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:09:21 EST
From: "Nigel M. Bennett" <102371.674@c.......>
Subject: The Geminis
It's really nice that so many of you seem to want to know more about what
I said at the awards in my acceptance speech. This is the speech as far as I can
remember:
"I'd like to thank all the people who have made this moment possible for
me, especially all the cast and crew of Forever Knight who have worked so hard
on all seventy episodes that we have made.
I'd like to thank everyone at Tristar and Paragon, especially Jim
Parriott who has been so committed to the project throughout.
I' d like to thank all of our fans both in Canada and the USA who have
given us such wonderful support and tried so hard to keep the series alive.
I'd also like to thank my agent, Larry Goldhar who took me on sight
unseen ten years ago, and has been a tower of strength for me through
everything.
I'd like to thank my wonderful children Michael and Sam for putting up
with a dad who wears make up.
And finally, I'd like to thank one very special person who has brought
grace and compassion and caring into my life, and has shown me that there is
more to life than just passing time; Louise, I love you.
Thankyou."
It was a very moving moment for me.
Nigel
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:41:06 -0500
From: Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject: Re: New presidential candidate.
About Uncle running for president:
Here is my cheap ad slogan for Uncle's campaign:
Elect Lucien LaCroix. He's older than Bob Dole, yet won't die in office.
Cousin Mel runs from the other cousins throwing things at her, and hopes she
didn't make Uncle, too mad.
NatVampCamp
Founder of Valentines-http://ansel.mm.informed.net/~virtual/team1/val.html
miss68@p....... or Pench68@a.......
"Oh yes. I want him. I want him.....dead," me-Interview With the
Nightcrawler Part 6
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 03:56:07 -0500
From: Melissa Puzio <miss68@p.......>
Subject: Re: The Geminis
>
> It's really nice that so many of you seem to want to know more about what
>I said at the awards in my acceptance speech. This is the speech as far as I can
>remember:
Then you have an excellent memory Nigel, because I'd forget speeches I made
up, no matter heartfelt or good they were :D
> I' d like to thank all of our fans both in Canada and the USA who have
>given us such wonderful support and tried so hard to keep the series alive.
And we love you for appreciating us We're trying our best, and we
appreciate the fact that you give 100% of yourself in your portrayal of
LaCroix.
.
> I'd like to thank my wonderful children Michael and Sam for putting up
>with a dad who wears make up.
LOL! does Ger think the same thing?
> And finally, I'd like to thank one very special person who has brought
>grace and compassion and caring into my life, and has shown me that there is
>more to life than just passing time; Louise, I love you.
That's so sweet :)
Thank you so much for telling us your speech Nigel! And Congratulations
again if I forgot.
Cousin Mel
Who cannot stop gushing!
miss68@p....... or Penchk68@a.......
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 04:03:09 -0500
From: Ann Scura <Vaqueras@a.......>
Subject: Remember Canada?
Natalie, Lacroix, and Janette for President?
I know it's a terribly small consideration next to the fact that all
the nominated are *fictional,* but...has it occurred to anyone
that all the afore mentioned happen to be Canadian?
Ann Scura
*Vaquera*
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 00:19:27 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: New Game: Favourite Episodes That Never Were.
Excellent! I have given this topic a great deal of thought. Nat always
wants Nick to sample and do things as a human. To track how Nick is
doing Nat is always taking blood samples. In my fetnw Nat asks Nick for
a sample, we are not talking about blood, discovers he can father
children and decides to be, how would Nat put it, be the vetor for this
test of humanity. Nick has already made it clear he wants children--ff
episode.
Barbara
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 04:20:52 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Remember Canada?
On Mar 11, 1996 04:03:09, 'Ann Scura <Vaqueras@a.......>' wrote:
>Natalie, Lacroix, and Janette for President?
>I know it's a terribly small consideration next to the fact that all
>the nominated are *fictional,* but...has it occurred to anyone
>that all the afore mentioned happen to be Canadian?
It occurred to me. <g> But I thought it was a cool thread, regardless of
the practical liabilities. And wanted to see how long it took for someone
ELSE to bring it up.
Hey, we're contemplating vampire viruses and telepathically-manifesting
fangs and how people might taste to sanguiniverous sorts; and we're gonna
be balked by a little thing like citizenship?
Also: LaCroix and Janette are not Canadian. LaCroix and Janette predate
Canada.
But back to the thread. I was wondering: what political parties would the
various nominees be affiliated with? Or would new political divisions have
to be invented to cover the situation? Since the-organism-that-is-Jamie
has antibodies that violently reject politics in all their forms, I'll have
to rely on y'all for that opinion.
However, why do I have the feeling that against all obvious logic, LaCroix
would somehow prove to be very popular with the religious right?
--
..............Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>..............
Asst. Listowner, SFK WebGoddess, Cinnamon Natpacker, Merc-MIA
;-;-;-;-;-;-;-SEMICOLON MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE!-;-;-;-;-;-;-;
****** Sorry, but Jamie is not coherent at the moment. ******
** Check back after her Saturn Return on April Fool's Day. **
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 01:36:06 +48000
From: Valerie Meachum <valerie@l.......>
Subject: Re: Nat's Parents
Actually, we haven't a single concrete clue whether they're still alive,
other than the fact that we never seem to hear about them. Even in "I
Will Repay", the only mention is a jab by Richard in the teaser,
"Natalie, you sound like Mom." Nat later describes Richard's funeral as
"very small, just family", but does not elaborate on whether than
includes their parents.
There are all sorts of theories floating around out there, all of which
are at least 98% instinct-based. So if you're asking for fanfic
purposes, do whatever you want to most effectively tell your story. It
won't conflict with canon. :-)
(In case you care, my instinct has always been that neither parent is
living, but since I can't really tell you why I won't take up bandwidth
trying...)
--Tigger, whose insomnia this lovely Monday morning (and I use the term
*very* loosely) probably stems from having enough girls at last night's
auditions (all of whom want to be Abigail, natch) to cast
historically-accurate afflicted circles for Salem, Topsfield, *and*
Andover; but having to PRAY that enough men show up tonight to fill out
the cast...and they can't be gender-switched like a good chunk of
Shakespeare 'cause they're Puritans and they're married...Arthur Miller
may be lucky he's already dead... %-}
Valerie Lynn Meachum <valerie@l.......>
THE MERRY WIVES OF WINDSOR * Rosebriar Shakespeare Company
March 7-16, 1996 * (000) 000-0000 * Davis Discovery Center, Columbus, OH
Visit us on the Web at http://members.aol.com/wiliqueen/rosebriar.html
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 04:47:10 -0500
From: "Janet Miller." <NO1RNUAWGM@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nat's Parents
Ummm, interesting thoughts on Nat's parents. I keep hearing in the show that
Nick has no family. Yet, in FALLEN HERO, we discover that he has at least 1
nephew. I wonder what happened to him, and how/why exactly did the deBrabant
family line, excuse the expression, die out?
I would love to see a fan story explaining this...
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:00:07 -0500
From: The Phoenix <jap8@c.......>
Subject: ADMIN: List Web Pages.
http://cac.psu.edu/~jap8/FK.html
'Nuff said.
Red.
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 07:51:28 -0500
From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: natpack page
Hi all,
A couple people have dropped me notes to tell me that the fiction links on
that page aren't working. Thanks! I'm awre of the problem but
unfortunately am not going to get a chance to fix them until later this
week.
Sharon
--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:10:22 EST
From: Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Carouche
The lower form of vampire that feeds on animals is spelled "carouche."
I once got a chance to ask Nigel Bennett.
He added that he didn't know where the term came from.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:25:26 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: The Geminis
To Mr. Bennett:
Thank you so much for sharing that speech with us, it is an honor for you to
have shared that experience with us and by mentioning us in your acceptance
speech, you further validated the tremendous effort so many fans have made to
try to keep FK on the air. Thank you so much and again, congratulations!!
Dotti R
Knightie 4-ever
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Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 08:30:32 -0500
From: Fred Mollin <ZOOMAR1010@a.......>
Subject: Re: Mollin's music plans
janine,
i'm really crazed right now with deadlines.
e-mail me next week and I'll update you...
take care
Fred
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