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Digest - 9 Mar 1996

Sat, 9 Mar 1996

There are 24 messages totalling 607 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Forever Knight as Married with Children.
  2. Putting together THE TAPE! (2)
  3. To Filk or not 2 Filk...
  4. Fraction Groupings (2)
  5. Affiliation names
  6. I'm back/Fraction groupings/stuff
  7. Casting - other Star Trek productions
  8. YKYB...: My cat and Sidney Lambert
  9. Lacroix's powers for the greater good. ;)
 10. Fiction SIte?? (2)
 11. SOS: Charity Stuff
 12. LaCroix as a hypnotist
 13. shortest/longest filk (2)
 14. Rerun??? (3)
 15. question on the painting
 16. Command confirmation request (46AE4F)
 17. FK Jingle
 18. Fiction Site???

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 12:21:08 -0500
From:    Val Wirth <VALWORTH@a.......>
Subject: Forever Knight as Married with Children.

More fun with alternate casting:

Forever Knight as the cast of Married with Children

Nick as Al Bundy   After Natalie found a cure, Nick was fired from the police
department. Without his superpowers he was a lousy cop; now he sells shoes,
and reminisces about his days as a vampire. (ala Al's days as a high
school football star)

Natalie as Peg        She struggled for years to find the cure for the
Vampire curse, so now she is content to sit on the couch, eat Bon Bons and
watch Oprah.

Tracy as Marcy        A little bit perkier than the original, but it could
work.

Vachon as Jefferson  Neither one of them seems to have any visible means of
support.

Janette as Kelly       If Nick did bring her across, then she would be his
daughter, and she could get away with the mini-skirts.

Schanke as Bud      Okay, this one is a stretch, but still, anything to get
Schanke back.

Finally, the vampire dog from "Blind Faith" as Buck.

Seriously, I wish Fox had gotten a shot at our favorite show, instead of USA.
 Just think, they have never given in to the urge to update the X-Files, with
a younger cast in order to get better demographics.


"My husband says get over it; it's just a T.V. show,
but then he goes and spends $100.00 on Star Trek Tapes."
Val
valworth@a.......

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:59:13 -0330
From:    Jason Ryan <ibe0018@i.......>
Subject: Re: Putting together THE TAPE!

On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Alora C. Chistiakoff wrote:

> >         Wouldn't it be a great thing if someone put together a tape
> > containing the best eps of FK??
>
> Wouldn't it be an amazing thing if we could *agree* on the best eps. I

        Don't you think that we should give it a try?  I'd be willing to
sort our all the replies with everyones fav. eps. or someone else could
if they wanted to.

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"La vie pour toujours, ma chere petite"
-Jason Ryan
ibe0018@i.......
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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 12:43:09 -0500
From:    Cuzin Lu <cuzinlu@s.......>
Subject: To Filk or not 2 Filk...

Ok... I have had trouble concentrating since you guys started this and so,
in order to relieve my suffering, I contribute this small offering, if only
to get it *out of my mind*

This one is for all the cousins and the Valentine's

Hanna Barbera's Magilla Gorilla does Lucien LaCroix...

We've got a vampire for sale, (ding)
Lucien LaCroix for sale,
Won't you buy 'em,
take 'em home and try 'em,
Vampire for sale.

He's real, he's a heel
and he's *awfully* cute,
He's an everlivin' vampire
In a human suit.

Vampire, Lucien LaCroix for sale
"How much is that vampire in the window?" (Natalie's voice)
(do-do-do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do-do)
Take our advice,(boom) at any price,(boom)
A Vampire like LaCroix, is mighty *nice*
Vampire, (doo-doo) The Vampire LaCroix for *sale*
(dah-dah-dah-dah-----dah-----dah-----dah-----dah!!!)

Finis!!

Cousin LuDia - The Multi Studded One
Cousin@Heart - Immortal Beloved
Vamp@Nyte - Valentine
cuzinlu@s....... |LuDia@a.......

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Date:    Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:37:30 EST
From:    TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings

GreyBrothr@a.......,

>>A herd of Vaqueros/Vaqueras....

 *NO*...not a chance...never...nope..it will never happen. I will
approve a *herd* of Vaqueros when I see LaCroix in a pink thong on T.V
dancing at the Raven. Did I mention he has to be holding a purple
feather between his legs the whole time?

Point made..............<grumble>

Dona Torrey

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:37:05 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Affiliation names

>Group leader Susan Garrett approved the above classification and I,
personally, will accept no other.>

"Group Leader"?  (Why does this remind me of 'Section leader,' usually the
first person to buy it in an SF movie?  And does this preclude my title as
Empress of FK-Fic?)

Yes, I think we settled on an 'Unkindness' of Ravenettes.  I also believe
the Knighties were officially dubbed a 'Crusade.'  I don't remember what the
other affiliations decided upon.

<Did I do good Susan (g)? and how is our holy Edgar, the lawn Raven doing
these days?)>

Yes, you did good.  And Edgar, the lawn Raven, is doing splendidly.  I just
dusted him off the other day.  Maybe I'll have Sharon scan in a photo that I
can attach to my web page, so everyone can see what he looks like (that
little silver locket with the pictures of Janette in it is just soooo
charming--thank you, Scottie!).

Which reminds me--anyone needing an affiliation pin is free to contact me.
Send me your affiliation along with a self-addressed, stamped padded (small)
envelope by snail mail and I'll get it out to you--that's it.  Also, if you
want a full set of pins, I'm asking that you send $10.00 to PAF.  And the
reason I'm thinking of this is because I'm hip deep in cutting more black
foam core board . . . .

Regards
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Visit THE essential webpage for Forever Knight info at:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:02:01 GMT
From:    Hilary Doda <katya@i.......>
Subject: I'm back/Fraction groupings/stuff

Hey! I'm done my exams <wild cheers!>, and I'm back on the list...I told you
you couldn't get rid of me...:P'...

A Faction Grouping idea for the NatPackers... after seeing the mad frenzy at
Debsplay, there's really no other choice...a Clan of NatPackers...I mean,
these guys have made community spirit into an art form...

And for the Shrewthers, "isn't sleep just a poor substitute for caffeine?"

Dona Katya
 * Raven * X-Phile * FFFROGie * Crusader * Mother of the WCP *

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:12:09 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Casting - other Star Trek productions

On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, A Bit of Deb and Geoff wrote:

> How about Trelane, the all knowing, all powerful creature that the Q in
> ST:TNG was inspired by? He'd make a *great* LaCroix, the way he toyed
> with Kirk like that!  <EG>

Gotta disagree.  Trelane was a baby, toying with people in an imature
fashion and being totally immature when thwarted.  LC is manipulative in
a mature way;  if thwarted he gets angry, or amused and pretends it
doesn't matter and seeks another path to his goals.  He doesn't stomp his
foot and wail.

In The classic trek, what about that woman in the Halloween ep who was
really some slug creature from another galaxy.  She manipulated people
and was evil in a mature way.

> > Oh, btw, Lynne, in your TNG casting, you forgot to include
> > Wesley Crusher as "Tracy, the Good Cop"!

No, no.  I much as I don't admire Tracy, even I wouldn't wish that on her.
Deanna is more like Tracy, even though she isn't quite as perky.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:28:42 -0500
From:    Teresa Davidson <davidson@r.......>
Subject: YKYB...: My cat and Sidney Lambert

My old cat Coca would always sit next to me when I watched FK -- after all,
she was a FoSiL. She didn't even mind Perry because smart dogs like that
don't chase and kill cats. Yet over the past two seasons, we've wondered
together, where is Sidney Lambert? Did something happen to him?

Coca always insisted on sitting in my lap when I'd visit this List, and more
than once offered her input via the keyboard. I never failed to read aloud
to her when someone posted about Sidney. Then after two absent seasons and a
gradual cessation of posts that mentioned Nat's cat, we sadly agreed that
the FoSiL faction had disappeared and Sidney Lambert was now forgotten --
until today, when I read the post from "Joanna Lady of Wales, Canine FOSil
and (potential) Dark Nattie..." So please forgive my display of sentiment in
all of this, but I can no longer read such posts to Coca, and it seems I am
yet unable to let them pass unrecognized ...that's why I'm writing this to you.

You see, on the 29th of last month, Coca passed on -- she was 19 years old.
I'm not sure what it means about my life, but I confess to this List that in
between a barrage of bittersweet flashbacks covering nearly two decades,
scenes in which my Coca was always present, I thought of Natalie and Sidney
Lambert. Although not funny (at least to me), I do recognize it as a YKYB...
phenomenon. And by reporting that to this List, I suppose I'm not only
creating an FK eulogy for both Coca and Sydney, but also acknowledging how
important I've let you become in my life.

I now believe that 3rd season Nat has been so dreary because Sidney must
have died. And I propose that this personal loss can explain her strange,
unrelenting hostility toward Nick, who undoubtedly responded brickishly (as
usual) to her feelings. With an 800 yr. accumulation of murder and death to
harden him, I would imagine Nick attempting to comfort Nat by pointing out
that Sydney was *only a cat*. Of course, there's the alternate possibility
that by now, Nat has learned to expect no emotional return from Nick, so did
not bother to mention Sidney's death. As a result, her resentment at the
one-sidedness of the relationship would then naturally smolder, bursting
into flame each time Nick wanted something from her.

BTW, I'm sorry if I missed any other recent posts about Sidney, but I
couldn't seem to read much over the past three weeks. I returned to the List
just this morning. Defeated by numbers, all but those from the last couple
of days had to be deleted.

Teresa Davidson, Ravenette *Classic*
davidson@r.......

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:38:15 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Lacroix's powers for the greater good. ;)

On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Tippi Blevins wrote:

> As far as Lacroix's powers of hypnosis...  I say, if he can whammy Nat then
> he can whammy Tracy.  Vachon to Tracy, whilst doing his best Hamlet
> impersonation: "Get thee to a whammery quick!"  Thattaway Nick doesn't have
> to walk on eggshells around her anymore.

I am totally unconvinced that Tracy is a resister anyway.  Vachon didn't
try very hard, and he was still worn out from his plane crash and the
loss of his hand.  Nick never bothered trying to see if he could whammy
Tracy, he just took Vachon's word for it.  Nick should have at least
tried to get her attention and whammy her.  BUT.... they wanted Tracy to
know so she had to be shown as being at least austensibly a resistor.
[resister?  One is someone who resists.  The other belongs in a radio :-)
Aha.  Now I know.  LC belongs in the radio (station); ergo, he is a
resistor :-) ]

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
"The mind of the son was so inferior to that of the father that he had
not a common understanding.  He was sent to New Jersey, in America."
1772 biography of poet Edmund Waller

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:47:39 -0500
From:    Susan Honig <Susankenn@a.......>
Subject: Fiction SIte??

Does anyone know what happened to the Fan Fiction Archive site.

Its been down for a few days now???

Thanks a bunch

Sue
Susankenn@a.......
Knightie (going towards the dark side)

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:51:47 -0500
From:    Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: SOS: Charity Stuff

Hey, Hey Everyone :)

Just thought I'd drop everyone a line to inform you all that we've
surpassed another mile-stone.

As of this morning, the Friends of Forever Knight group charity
drive in honor of the cast and crew of Forever Knight with proceeds
going to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation is: <drum roll>

                                        $9,001.50

                        Hugs and virtual chocolates to everyone
        I'm saving the virtual champagne for the $10,000 mark
                          Here's hoping that we make it <G>

If anyone is new here and needs more information, or has not gotten
involved and would like to, please e-mail me off-list and I'll be
sure to forward all the applicable details to you.

Hope you all have a wonderful weekend :)

Lisa Prince (Moonlight@g.......)  Official Charity Drive Organizer
Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Send to:  Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity,
[Address removed]
Rage, my friends, rage against the dying of the Knight

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:53:48 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Putting together THE TAPE!

On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, in response to my comment about the unlikelihood of
getting a consensus on which episodes constituted "The Best of FK," Jason
Ryan wrote:

>         Don't you think that we should give it a try?  I'd be willing to
> sort our all the replies with everyones fav. eps. or someone else could
> if they wanted to.

Me again: Oh, Jason, by no means was I trying to discourage you. I was
merely making an observation. Tastes range so widely around here I was
merely saying that a word like "best" is kind of difficult to define.

By all means, go for it. I'd vote, but I really haven't seen anything
other than third season...although I did love Fever. And, complaints
aside, I loved Human Factor, too.

Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:10:34 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Re: Fiction SIte??

Sue,
The fanfic site has been moved to http://www.evil.org/fkfic. I've just
been there.



Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:14:42 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: LaCroix as a hypnotist

On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Gary L Warren wrote:

> contact and even commanding as Lacroix's voice was, there just wasn't
> enough time for inducement to occur.  The only other pseudo-scientific
> reason for such instant control would have telepathy.

Re SoB; I've only seen it once, but thought that the priest might have
been pretending, i.e., that he let LC think he'd been whammied, because
it really didn't look as though LC did enough to really, truly whammy
him.  Remember that even LC was tired from saving Nick and wouldn't
have been at his top condition.  By that point in time, the priest must
surely have known that he would be a dead duck if he didn't at least
pretend to "forget".

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Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:16:39 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: shortest/longest filk

On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Lisa Prince wrote:

> 53 bottles of blood in the fridge
> 53 bottles of blood
> Vachon gives a sigh then drains Tracy dry
> 52 bottles of blood in the fridge

Shouldn't this line end "53 bottles of blood in the fridge"?  After all,
he drained Tracy, not the bottle :-)
|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
"The mind of the son was so inferior to that of the father that he had
not a common understanding.  He was sent to New Jersey, in America."
1772 biography of poet Edmund Waller

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:52:36 -0330
From:    Jason Ryan <ibe0018@i.......>
Subject: Rerun???

        Is "Trophy girl" a rerun????

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"La vie pour toujours, ma chere petite"
-Jason Ryan
ibe0018@i.......
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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:33:47 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Rerun???

On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Jason Ryan wrote:

>         Is "Trophy girl" a rerun????
>

Yep. It was a definate Tracy episode...Vahon did have a good line though,
something about cars with fins being sexier, preditory, I think. Not the
greatest, but certainly not the worst.

Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:49:51 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Re: Rerun???

Yes Trophy Girl is a rerun.



Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:41:01 +0000
From:    Andrea Baroco <wcbaroco@b.......>
Subject: question on the painting

Hello all,
  I have a question about the painting of Janette from the Renaissance.
I'm writing an art history paper with a little creativity, 'cause that's
the way we always write them.  We are artists after all, no one is better
at fabricating the truth than us, or so they say.  Anywho, I was
wondering if anone could tell me if there was a date of creation ever
given.  I remember the episode, but I don't know the greatest details, and
yes, I have no copy of the episode to review.
  Any help will be muchly appreciated.
                                      Andrea B^)

"We are all born mad, some of us move on"
                              Estragon from S. B.'s WAITING FOR GODOT
(yes, I did enjoy it sick one that I am.  Now all I have to do is find my
boots and I'll be set :)

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:40:18 -0500
From:    "Scott A. Trezza" <Trezza@a.......>
Subject: Re: Command confirmation request (46AE4F)

Please remove me from the list. The postings are too numerous to read on a
daily basis.

Keep the faith.

Scott Trezza

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:34:41 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: shortest/longest filk

On Mar 09, 1996 15:16:39, 'vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>'
wrote:


>Shouldn't this line end "53 bottles of blood in the fridge"?  After all,
>he drained Tracy, not the bottle :-)

Yeah, but if we don't go down a bottle with every verse, this song will be
long enough to cover a car trip from New York to Toronto to Vancouver to
LA, and back again via the southwestern route.  Which, for those of you
without an atlas, is a VERY long trip. :-)

As it stands, by the time we finish singing ALL the verses in Toronto,
there will not be time enough left for us to see Taming of the Shrew.

"But soft, what light through yonder window breaks?  'Tis the east, and
Juliette is... another bottle of blood on the wall..."

...yeah, I know, wrong play.  With my fifth-grade education, I'm lucky to
be able to approximate a direct quote from ANYTHING shakespeare...

--
-----Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>---<NatPakJami on AOL>
----------Cinnamon Natpacker, Ath-otCoS, S.I. of TG(tm)
---------------and clinging to Mercdom by the skin of my teeth
Oh, yeah, and I got this asst. listowner/webgoddess thing going, too.
http://members.aol.com/JamieMR777/NotHomePage.html

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:40:36 -0800
From:    Ted Atkinson <llacroix@i.......>
Subject: FK Jingle

Sung to the Oscar Meyer song:

The vampire has a first name
It's U n c l e
The vampire has second name
It's L u c i e n
He loves to drink blood every day
And if you ask me why I'd say...
Cuz Uncle Lucien has a way
With blooDNA


Ted Atkinson   Cousin
llacroix@i.......

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:09:58 -0800
From:    Dee Davidson <dmd@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fiction Site???

The fiction site is still up, it just depends on where you try to get to it
from, when I tried to get to it from The FK Home Page it came up with File
Not Found, but when I tried from Yahoo I got to it no problem.
The URL for it is: http://www.evil.org/fkfic/

Forever!!
Dee-Cousin and Valentine

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"If you think I've tormented you in the past little friends, wait until you
see what I do with you now!" Q

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Date:    Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:27:34 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings

On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, TORREY L HARRIS wrote:

>  *NO*...not a chance...never...nope..it will never happen. I will
> approve a *herd* of Vaqueros when I see LaCroix in a pink thong on T.V
> dancing at the Raven. Did I mention he has to be holding a purple
> feather between his legs the whole time?

ROTFLMAO!

Oh great...so how do I get rid of *that* mental picture now?

I'm gonna have nightmares, I just know it!

Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine

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