There are 24 messages totalling 607 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. Forever Knight as Married with Children. 2. Putting together THE TAPE! (2) 3. To Filk or not 2 Filk... 4. Fraction Groupings (2) 5. Affiliation names 6. I'm back/Fraction groupings/stuff 7. Casting - other Star Trek productions 8. YKYB...: My cat and Sidney Lambert 9. Lacroix's powers for the greater good. ;) 10. Fiction SIte?? (2) 11. SOS: Charity Stuff 12. LaCroix as a hypnotist 13. shortest/longest filk (2) 14. Rerun??? (3) 15. question on the painting 16. Command confirmation request (46AE4F) 17. FK Jingle 18. Fiction Site??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 12:21:08 -0500 From: Val Wirth <VALWORTH@a.......> Subject: Forever Knight as Married with Children. More fun with alternate casting: Forever Knight as the cast of Married with Children Nick as Al Bundy After Natalie found a cure, Nick was fired from the police department. Without his superpowers he was a lousy cop; now he sells shoes, and reminisces about his days as a vampire. (ala Al's days as a high school football star) Natalie as Peg She struggled for years to find the cure for the Vampire curse, so now she is content to sit on the couch, eat Bon Bons and watch Oprah. Tracy as Marcy A little bit perkier than the original, but it could work. Vachon as Jefferson Neither one of them seems to have any visible means of support. Janette as Kelly If Nick did bring her across, then she would be his daughter, and she could get away with the mini-skirts. Schanke as Bud Okay, this one is a stretch, but still, anything to get Schanke back. Finally, the vampire dog from "Blind Faith" as Buck. Seriously, I wish Fox had gotten a shot at our favorite show, instead of USA. Just think, they have never given in to the urge to update the X-Files, with a younger cast in order to get better demographics. "My husband says get over it; it's just a T.V. show, but then he goes and spends $100.00 on Star Trek Tapes." Val valworth@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:59:13 -0330 From: Jason Ryan <ibe0018@i.......> Subject: Re: Putting together THE TAPE! On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Alora C. Chistiakoff wrote: > > Wouldn't it be a great thing if someone put together a tape > > containing the best eps of FK?? > > Wouldn't it be an amazing thing if we could *agree* on the best eps. I Don't you think that we should give it a try? I'd be willing to sort our all the replies with everyones fav. eps. or someone else could if they wanted to. *************************************** "La vie pour toujours, ma chere petite" -Jason Ryan ibe0018@i....... *************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 12:43:09 -0500 From: Cuzin Lu <cuzinlu@s.......> Subject: To Filk or not 2 Filk... Ok... I have had trouble concentrating since you guys started this and so, in order to relieve my suffering, I contribute this small offering, if only to get it *out of my mind* This one is for all the cousins and the Valentine's Hanna Barbera's Magilla Gorilla does Lucien LaCroix... We've got a vampire for sale, (ding) Lucien LaCroix for sale, Won't you buy 'em, take 'em home and try 'em, Vampire for sale. He's real, he's a heel and he's *awfully* cute, He's an everlivin' vampire In a human suit. Vampire, Lucien LaCroix for sale "How much is that vampire in the window?" (Natalie's voice) (do-do-do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do-do) Take our advice,(boom) at any price,(boom) A Vampire like LaCroix, is mighty *nice* Vampire, (doo-doo) The Vampire LaCroix for *sale* (dah-dah-dah-dah-----dah-----dah-----dah-----dah!!!) Finis!! Cousin LuDia - The Multi Studded One Cousin@Heart - Immortal Beloved Vamp@Nyte - Valentine cuzinlu@s....... |LuDia@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 13:37:30 EST From: TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......> Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings GreyBrothr@a......., >>A herd of Vaqueros/Vaqueras.... *NO*...not a chance...never...nope..it will never happen. I will approve a *herd* of Vaqueros when I see LaCroix in a pink thong on T.V dancing at the Raven. Did I mention he has to be holding a purple feather between his legs the whole time? Point made..............<grumble> Dona Torrey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:37:05 -0500 From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......> Subject: Affiliation names >Group leader Susan Garrett approved the above classification and I, personally, will accept no other.> "Group Leader"? (Why does this remind me of 'Section leader,' usually the first person to buy it in an SF movie? And does this preclude my title as Empress of FK-Fic?) Yes, I think we settled on an 'Unkindness' of Ravenettes. I also believe the Knighties were officially dubbed a 'Crusade.' I don't remember what the other affiliations decided upon. <Did I do good Susan (g)? and how is our holy Edgar, the lawn Raven doing these days?)> Yes, you did good. And Edgar, the lawn Raven, is doing splendidly. I just dusted him off the other day. Maybe I'll have Sharon scan in a photo that I can attach to my web page, so everyone can see what he looks like (that little silver locket with the pictures of Janette in it is just soooo charming--thank you, Scottie!). Which reminds me--anyone needing an affiliation pin is free to contact me. Send me your affiliation along with a self-addressed, stamped padded (small) envelope by snail mail and I'll get it out to you--that's it. Also, if you want a full set of pins, I'm asking that you send $10.00 to PAF. And the reason I'm thinking of this is because I'm hip deep in cutting more black foam core board . . . . Regards susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang Visit THE essential webpage for Forever Knight info at: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:02:01 GMT From: Hilary Doda <katya@i.......> Subject: I'm back/Fraction groupings/stuff Hey! I'm done my exams <wild cheers!>, and I'm back on the list...I told you you couldn't get rid of me...:P'... A Faction Grouping idea for the NatPackers... after seeing the mad frenzy at Debsplay, there's really no other choice...a Clan of NatPackers...I mean, these guys have made community spirit into an art form... And for the Shrewthers, "isn't sleep just a poor substitute for caffeine?" Dona Katya * Raven * X-Phile * FFFROGie * Crusader * Mother of the WCP * ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:12:09 -0500 From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......> Subject: Re: Casting - other Star Trek productions On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, A Bit of Deb and Geoff wrote: > How about Trelane, the all knowing, all powerful creature that the Q in > ST:TNG was inspired by? He'd make a *great* LaCroix, the way he toyed > with Kirk like that! <EG> Gotta disagree. Trelane was a baby, toying with people in an imature fashion and being totally immature when thwarted. LC is manipulative in a mature way; if thwarted he gets angry, or amused and pretends it doesn't matter and seeks another path to his goals. He doesn't stomp his foot and wail. In The classic trek, what about that woman in the Halloween ep who was really some slug creature from another galaxy. She manipulated people and was evil in a mature way. > > Oh, btw, Lynne, in your TNG casting, you forgot to include > > Wesley Crusher as "Tracy, the Good Cop"! No, no. I much as I don't admire Tracy, even I wouldn't wish that on her. Deanna is more like Tracy, even though she isn't quite as perky. |---- Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:28:42 -0500 From: Teresa Davidson <davidson@r.......> Subject: YKYB...: My cat and Sidney Lambert My old cat Coca would always sit next to me when I watched FK -- after all, she was a FoSiL. She didn't even mind Perry because smart dogs like that don't chase and kill cats. Yet over the past two seasons, we've wondered together, where is Sidney Lambert? Did something happen to him? Coca always insisted on sitting in my lap when I'd visit this List, and more than once offered her input via the keyboard. I never failed to read aloud to her when someone posted about Sidney. Then after two absent seasons and a gradual cessation of posts that mentioned Nat's cat, we sadly agreed that the FoSiL faction had disappeared and Sidney Lambert was now forgotten -- until today, when I read the post from "Joanna Lady of Wales, Canine FOSil and (potential) Dark Nattie..." So please forgive my display of sentiment in all of this, but I can no longer read such posts to Coca, and it seems I am yet unable to let them pass unrecognized ...that's why I'm writing this to you. You see, on the 29th of last month, Coca passed on -- she was 19 years old. I'm not sure what it means about my life, but I confess to this List that in between a barrage of bittersweet flashbacks covering nearly two decades, scenes in which my Coca was always present, I thought of Natalie and Sidney Lambert. Although not funny (at least to me), I do recognize it as a YKYB... phenomenon. And by reporting that to this List, I suppose I'm not only creating an FK eulogy for both Coca and Sydney, but also acknowledging how important I've let you become in my life. I now believe that 3rd season Nat has been so dreary because Sidney must have died. And I propose that this personal loss can explain her strange, unrelenting hostility toward Nick, who undoubtedly responded brickishly (as usual) to her feelings. With an 800 yr. accumulation of murder and death to harden him, I would imagine Nick attempting to comfort Nat by pointing out that Sydney was *only a cat*. Of course, there's the alternate possibility that by now, Nat has learned to expect no emotional return from Nick, so did not bother to mention Sidney's death. As a result, her resentment at the one-sidedness of the relationship would then naturally smolder, bursting into flame each time Nick wanted something from her. BTW, I'm sorry if I missed any other recent posts about Sidney, but I couldn't seem to read much over the past three weeks. I returned to the List just this morning. Defeated by numbers, all but those from the last couple of days had to be deleted. Teresa Davidson, Ravenette *Classic* davidson@r....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:38:15 -0500 From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......> Subject: Re: Lacroix's powers for the greater good. ;) On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Tippi Blevins wrote: > As far as Lacroix's powers of hypnosis... I say, if he can whammy Nat then > he can whammy Tracy. Vachon to Tracy, whilst doing his best Hamlet > impersonation: "Get thee to a whammery quick!" Thattaway Nick doesn't have > to walk on eggshells around her anymore. I am totally unconvinced that Tracy is a resister anyway. Vachon didn't try very hard, and he was still worn out from his plane crash and the loss of his hand. Nick never bothered trying to see if he could whammy Tracy, he just took Vachon's word for it. Nick should have at least tried to get her attention and whammy her. BUT.... they wanted Tracy to know so she had to be shown as being at least austensibly a resistor. [resister? One is someone who resists. The other belongs in a radio :-) Aha. Now I know. LC belongs in the radio (station); ergo, he is a resistor :-) ] |---- Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i....... "The mind of the son was so inferior to that of the father that he had not a common understanding. He was sent to New Jersey, in America." 1772 biography of poet Edmund Waller ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:47:39 -0500 From: Susan Honig <Susankenn@a.......> Subject: Fiction SIte?? Does anyone know what happened to the Fan Fiction Archive site. Its been down for a few days now??? Thanks a bunch Sue Susankenn@a....... Knightie (going towards the dark side) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:51:47 -0500 From: Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......> Subject: SOS: Charity Stuff Hey, Hey Everyone :) Just thought I'd drop everyone a line to inform you all that we've surpassed another mile-stone. As of this morning, the Friends of Forever Knight group charity drive in honor of the cast and crew of Forever Knight with proceeds going to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation is: <drum roll> $9,001.50 Hugs and virtual chocolates to everyone I'm saving the virtual champagne for the $10,000 mark Here's hoping that we make it <G> If anyone is new here and needs more information, or has not gotten involved and would like to, please e-mail me off-list and I'll be sure to forward all the applicable details to you. Hope you all have a wonderful weekend :) Lisa Prince (Moonlight@g.......) Official Charity Drive Organizer Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation Send to: Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity, [Address removed] Rage, my friends, rage against the dying of the Knight ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:53:48 -0500 From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......> Subject: Re: Putting together THE TAPE! On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, in response to my comment about the unlikelihood of getting a consensus on which episodes constituted "The Best of FK," Jason Ryan wrote: > Don't you think that we should give it a try? I'd be willing to > sort our all the replies with everyones fav. eps. or someone else could > if they wanted to. Me again: Oh, Jason, by no means was I trying to discourage you. I was merely making an observation. Tastes range so widely around here I was merely saying that a word like "best" is kind of difficult to define. By all means, go for it. I'd vote, but I really haven't seen anything other than third season...although I did love Fever. And, complaints aside, I loved Human Factor, too. Alora <acc0924@i.......> Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:10:34 -0700 From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......> Subject: Re: Fiction SIte?? Sue, The fanfic site has been moved to http://www.evil.org/fkfic. I've just been there. Raissa Devereux raissa@i....... Nat Vamp Camp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:14:42 -0500 From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......> Subject: Re: LaCroix as a hypnotist On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Gary L Warren wrote: > contact and even commanding as Lacroix's voice was, there just wasn't > enough time for inducement to occur. The only other pseudo-scientific > reason for such instant control would have telepathy. Re SoB; I've only seen it once, but thought that the priest might have been pretending, i.e., that he let LC think he'd been whammied, because it really didn't look as though LC did enough to really, truly whammy him. Remember that even LC was tired from saving Nick and wouldn't have been at his top condition. By that point in time, the priest must surely have known that he would be a dead duck if he didn't at least pretend to "forget". |---- Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:16:39 -0500 From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......> Subject: Re: shortest/longest filk On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Lisa Prince wrote: > 53 bottles of blood in the fridge > 53 bottles of blood > Vachon gives a sigh then drains Tracy dry > 52 bottles of blood in the fridge Shouldn't this line end "53 bottles of blood in the fridge"? After all, he drained Tracy, not the bottle :-) |---- Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i....... "The mind of the son was so inferior to that of the father that he had not a common understanding. He was sent to New Jersey, in America." 1772 biography of poet Edmund Waller ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:52:36 -0330 From: Jason Ryan <ibe0018@i.......> Subject: Rerun??? Is "Trophy girl" a rerun???? *************************************** "La vie pour toujours, ma chere petite" -Jason Ryan ibe0018@i....... *************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:33:47 -0500 From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......> Subject: Re: Rerun??? On Sat, 9 Mar 1996, Jason Ryan wrote: > Is "Trophy girl" a rerun???? > Yep. It was a definate Tracy episode...Vahon did have a good line though, something about cars with fins being sexier, preditory, I think. Not the greatest, but certainly not the worst. Alora <acc0924@i.......> Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:49:51 -0700 From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......> Subject: Re: Rerun??? Yes Trophy Girl is a rerun. Raissa Devereux raissa@i....... Nat Vamp Camp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:41:01 +0000 From: Andrea Baroco <wcbaroco@b.......> Subject: question on the painting Hello all, I have a question about the painting of Janette from the Renaissance. I'm writing an art history paper with a little creativity, 'cause that's the way we always write them. We are artists after all, no one is better at fabricating the truth than us, or so they say. Anywho, I was wondering if anone could tell me if there was a date of creation ever given. I remember the episode, but I don't know the greatest details, and yes, I have no copy of the episode to review. Any help will be muchly appreciated. Andrea B^) "We are all born mad, some of us move on" Estragon from S. B.'s WAITING FOR GODOT (yes, I did enjoy it sick one that I am. Now all I have to do is find my boots and I'll be set :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:40:18 -0500 From: "Scott A. Trezza" <Trezza@a.......> Subject: Re: Command confirmation request (46AE4F) Please remove me from the list. The postings are too numerous to read on a daily basis. Keep the faith. Scott Trezza ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:34:41 -0500 From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......> Subject: Re: shortest/longest filk On Mar 09, 1996 15:16:39, 'vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>' wrote: >Shouldn't this line end "53 bottles of blood in the fridge"? After all, >he drained Tracy, not the bottle :-) Yeah, but if we don't go down a bottle with every verse, this song will be long enough to cover a car trip from New York to Toronto to Vancouver to LA, and back again via the southwestern route. Which, for those of you without an atlas, is a VERY long trip. :-) As it stands, by the time we finish singing ALL the verses in Toronto, there will not be time enough left for us to see Taming of the Shrew. "But soft, what light through yonder window breaks? 'Tis the east, and Juliette is... another bottle of blood on the wall..." ...yeah, I know, wrong play. With my fifth-grade education, I'm lucky to be able to approximate a direct quote from ANYTHING shakespeare... -- -----Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>---<NatPakJami on AOL> ----------Cinnamon Natpacker, Ath-otCoS, S.I. of TG(tm) ---------------and clinging to Mercdom by the skin of my teeth Oh, yeah, and I got this asst. listowner/webgoddess thing going, too. http://members.aol.com/JamieMR777/NotHomePage.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:40:36 -0800 From: Ted Atkinson <llacroix@i.......> Subject: FK Jingle Sung to the Oscar Meyer song: The vampire has a first name It's U n c l e The vampire has second name It's L u c i e n He loves to drink blood every day And if you ask me why I'd say... Cuz Uncle Lucien has a way With blooDNA Ted Atkinson Cousin llacroix@i....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:09:58 -0800 From: Dee Davidson <dmd@a.......> Subject: Re: Fiction Site??? The fiction site is still up, it just depends on where you try to get to it from, when I tried to get to it from The FK Home Page it came up with File Not Found, but when I tried from Yahoo I got to it no problem. The URL for it is: http://www.evil.org/fkfic/ Forever!! Dee-Cousin and Valentine ****************************************************** "If you think I've tormented you in the past little friends, wait until you see what I do with you now!" Q ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 16:27:34 -0500 From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......> Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, TORREY L HARRIS wrote: > *NO*...not a chance...never...nope..it will never happen. I will > approve a *herd* of Vaqueros when I see LaCroix in a pink thong on T.V > dancing at the Raven. Did I mention he has to be holding a purple > feather between his legs the whole time? ROTFLMAO! Oh great...so how do I get rid of *that* mental picture now? I'm gonna have nightmares, I just know it! Alora <acc0924@i.......> Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 9 Mar 1996 ***********************************
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