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Digest - 7 Mar 1996 to 8 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Fri, 8 Mar 1996
There are 40 messages totalling 1021 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. 100 Bottles of Blood
2. Vachon loop (2)
3. Help with Digest
4. shortest/longest filk
5. Rereun on USA? (2)
6. music and literature
7. Affiliate response
8. Fanfic Too Real! (3)
9. Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
10. 1st Season / Schanke.
11. Reunion with GWD
12. Greetings from beyond the dirt
13. Forever Bart
14. Great Casting Idea?
15. N/N Relationship (2)
16. Airwolf question
17. get naked line
18. A Winter's Tale & "You Know Who"
19. Cross scene?
20. My rundown on seasons
21. Interview With the Nightcrawler 1/?
22. USA/SciFi Channel, FK & Death By E Mail
23. YKYB.....
24. Past FIC Auction
25. Season Discoveries
26. AZ FKParty & New FK Fan Club?
27. Fraction Groupings (3)
28. Alternate casts
29. Nick Knight versus Forever Knight (2)
30. 3 topics this time!
31. Faction groupings
32. Charting Nick and Nat through rocky shoals
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:27:17 -0600
From: Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......>
Subject: Re: 100 Bottles of Blood
Hi all,
This is a friends contribution to '100 Bottles of Blood in the Fridge'.
She's a Vaquera so what can I say? :)
This is fun but where in the world did this come from?
>>Ninety-seven bottles of blood in the fridge...
>>Ninety-seven bottles of blood
>>LaCroix smells cow -- says "no thanks for now"
>>Ninety-seven bottles of blood in the fridge....
Here's her contribution:
>How about this:
>
>Ninety-six bottles of blood in the fridge...
>Ninety-six bottles of blood
>Tracey's a ditz, Vachon needs his fix
>Ninety-five bottles of blood in the fridge....
>
>Your're right, I did know how to do this. heheheh
>
>--Alicia
Enjoy!
Amy D.
z_dentonam@t.......
(If the numbering needs changing, feel free, just as long as it doesn't mess up
the rhyme) :)
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:34:35 -0500
From: Jennie McGrath <JennieeMcg@a.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon loop
Absolutely.
Sign me up!
Jennie
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:33:41 -0500
From: Jennie McGrath <JennieeMcg@a.......>
Subject: Help with Digest
Would someone be kind enough to tell me how to get the list in digest form?
Jennie
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:53:47 -0500
From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......>
Subject: Re: shortest/longest filk
Karen wrote;
>Okay, I'm in...
>
>Ninety-eight bottles of blood in the fridge...
>Ninety-eight bottles of blood
>Janette comes to town -- one more goes down
>Ninety-seven bottles of blood in the fridge....
Me too! How about...
Ninety-seven bottles of blood in the fridge...
Ninety-seven bottles of blood
Tracy takes one to give to Vachon
Ninety-six bottles of blood in the fridge....
Stephanie Babbitt
Vaquera
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 14:42:36 -0800
From: Amy R. <r......@w.......>
Subject: Rereun on USA?
I hate to be redundant, but I still don't know if there will be an
episode run at one Friday morning, since someone said USA had moved it to
Tuesdays at ten. I only care, I suppose, because it was supposed to be
one of the ones I missed from the beginning of the season...
***** Amy R. r......@w....... (Knightie-in-training; N&Ner)
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:03:22 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Re: music and literature
Kat,
The music in BB is the moonlight sonata by Beethoven, and LC's quote is
from Paradise Lost.
Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:54:00 -0500
From: Bobbie Williams <UserKnight@a.......>
Subject: Affiliate response
I just got a response from the Pittsburgh affiliate WPGH, to my many letters,
in the mail today! It is obviously a form letter (they didn't even bother to
match fonts!!) It reads:
>Dear Fan of Forever Knight:
>Thank you for your recent letter. I apologize for not writing personally,
>but we have been inundated with letters of support for Forever Knight.
>We are glad you enjoy the show, and are pleased to be able to be offering the
>remainder of the 3rd season in a more convenient time period that it was in
>before.
>Thanks for watching and taking the time to write.
>Sincerely,
>Terry Caywood.
Well, I guess it's better than nothing. I did like the sound of "inundated."
:-) Keep it up fellow 'burghers!!
Bobbie (UserKnight@a.......)
"Out of the spirit, into the flesh/The animal heartbeat in the chest
The naked desire/The appetite/But you remember the light"
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:03:15 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fanfic Too Real!
Felicia Bollin wrote, which I snipped in places for the 4-line rule:
>TIPPI! <gasp>
>*What did you tell Nick and LaCroix to do*? <G>
>From March 6th's afternoon edition of my local newspaper, I quote:
>"Charles S. Bivins Jr., *died Tuesday night*
Yikes!
I swear all they did was whammy them! And when I say whammy, I mean
*hypnotize*, of course. Well, I can only account for Nick. Lacroix tends to
stray from me...
Anyone ever read _Number of the Beast_ by Heinlein? Then you *know* that the
stuff authors write actually exists in parallel realities. The Wizard of Oz
is real. And Nick and Lacroix are apparently making the most of their
vacation...!
You know, I'm really not as crazy as I seem. Honest!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 12:29:37 -0800
From: John Soo-Hoo <galahad!jsoohoo@n.......>
Subject: Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
<199603071603.IAA10542@m.......>
>#: Katya wrote:
> :What "Let's get naked" line? Both times I saw Hearts of Darkness there
> :was no dialogue until Vachon started talking to Urs - something like "If
> :she's an amateur I'm a vegetarian".
> I remember the line from the first time I saw it. It was gone in reruns.
> (Smart idea, that.)
What? I just saw "Heart of Darkness" last weekend and both lines where there!
I remember missing the first few minutes the first time I saw it
(LaCroix's line), but I'm sure I heard it this time.
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 10:48:00 PST
From: Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......>
Subject: 1st Season / Schanke.
I wonder how many people who prefer the second season to the first saw the
truncated "Crimetime after Primetime" version rather than the fuller
Canadian edition?
The Canadian version was shown in Australia, but I have seen the shorter
American version. The latter leaves out a lot of the minor dialogue which
doesn't move the plot along but does help flesh out the characters. (Even
Alyce 'hold me' Hunter comes out a rounder character in the Canadian
version; the American version cuts out a couple of scenes between her and
Nick. There is one piece of dialogue in particular where Nick explains that
a fifteenth century suit of armour has been constructed wrongly, and how
anyone trapped inside it would be... er... unable to relieve himself. "Once
caught, never forgotten" he says, which settles a long standing argument
about vampire bodily functions. :-))
Of course, the American version of the first season *does* omit some rather
deadly scenes where Nick sits in his loft 'angsting' as he plunks on his
piano, stares at a candle flame, tosses a pack of tarot cards on the floor,
etc., etc., while angsty music swells up on the sound track.
Now for Schanke's role in "Forever Knight" - FoDly emotions apart, I always
considered that he acted as a balance for LaCroix in Nick's life. If you
think of Nick as an outrigger canoe, or even a boat which needs balancing,
you can see this more clearly. On the one side he has Janette, the woman in
his past, and LaCroix, the 'bad' father figure. On the other side he has
Natalie, the woman in his present, and Schanke the 'good' father figure,
representative of the mortality he aspires to. On a more mundane level,
Schanke is probably one of the few real mortal friends he has had since
being brought across in 1228.
And of course, Schanke offered a welcome touch of humour to a show which is
all too apt to get bogged down in gloom and doom and melodrama.
Christine Hawkins
c.hawkins@n.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:06:32 -0500
From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: Reunion with GWD
What channel is "Reunion" w/ GWD on _Alfred Hitchcock Presents_
on tmw?
Kim
flowper@o.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:11:44 -0500
From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: Rereun on USA?
Amy, my TV listing shows a listing of "Blind Faith" on USA Thur night/
Fri morning, so I think it *is* still airing in that slot this week.
The newspaper never lies, right? (Warning: blatant sarcasm may lurk in
the preceding sentence)
Kim B.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:53:45 -0500
From: Calliope <usleamys@u.......>
Subject: Re: Greetings from beyond the dirt
>Yo, Mothball, you allow your pet to call you a "little black Horse"? The
>word for cat is"chat", a horse is "cheval" a dog is "chien", horse is the
>closest meaning for "chevalier" that I can think of, but then, I've only
>been studdying french for about four years now.
Hmm ... I'll be lucky if she doesn't catch me. The odor of pigeon blood is
quite strong.
Actually, from what I've heard, "chevalier" means "knight" in French. She
did call me "le petit chat ... pitty kitty" and so on, for which she shall
dearly pay.
Must run. A big fat magpie just flew into the window. Can't let the red
run cold.
Mothball
un petit chevalier mort
c/o usleamys@u.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:55:26 -0500
From: Calliope <usleamys@u.......>
Subject: Forever Bart
>How about the Simpsons? how about it?
>
>Homer as Nick?
Gotta have Mr. Smithers. That man can whine like he's going to serve
cheese with it.
>Bart as Vachon
How about bus driver Otto? "My name is O-tto, I like to get blot-to!"
>Lisa as Tracy
Lisa's too smart for Tracy. We could get that one older version of Lisa to
play Natalie, though. How about Reverend Lovejoy's wife? "From now on, I
will use my gossip for good instead of evil!"
Also:
Dr. Hibbert as Reese
Mandy the sexy new engineer as Janette
and...
The comic store guy as that serial killer in "Let No Man Tear Asunder"
The crazy guy with one arm from the gun store as Vudu
Princess Kashmir the stripper as Urs
Simpsons abound tonight...
Cathy
usleamys@u.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:56:59 -0500
From: Calliope <usleamys@u.......>
Subject: Re: Great Casting Idea?
>>Mr. Burns as Lacroix
>
>Deliciously Evil! I love it. But Mr. burns looks to frail to play the
>powerful Uncle. I'd even consider bart, if he wasn't too childish-gotta
>love his obnoxious malevolence.
How about Principal Skinner? That man has enough flashbacks as it is.
Best one was when Bart painted all that awful stuff on conversation hearts
for Valentine's Day.
Skinner: (over the intercom) Valentine's Day is not a joke! (flashes
back to his days in Vietnam. He is on a boat and his friend is writing out
a card) Who's that for, Johnny?
Johnny: It's for my girl, back in the States!
(suddenly, there is a wild barrage of gunfire and Johnny is shot dead
through the chest. Skinner kneels over the body)
Skinner: Johhnnnnyyyy!!!! (flashback ends, but Skinner is still yelling
over the intercom) Johhhhhhnnnnnnnyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!
Bart: Cool! I broke his brain!
Cathy
usleamys@u.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:59:07 EST
From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: N/N Relationship
Amy R. mentioned wondering when N/N stopped being more than just friends. Well,
Nick and Nat really admitted they felt more for one another than just friendship
in the episode "Be My Valentine" in the second season. After they admitted they
cared for each other, LaCroix, ofcourse interfered threatening to kill Nat for
revenge over the loss of his only mortal love, Fleur, Nick's sister. Then Nick
has to pretend he doesn't love her to save her life, and then whammies Natalie
to forget they ever admitted to each other how they felt. There's a lot of
questions as to whether or not Natalie really whammied or whether she's playing
along for the ride - which could explain why she's been sort of - distant - this
season.
Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:53:20 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Airwolf question
Cousin Becky said ...
>focus around Ger. There's an amnesia episode (WOR hasn't aired it yet, but I
>have it on tape.) and one where he plays a dual role (that of his regular
Speaking of the devil ... that one's on right now. And wouldn't you know,
TONIGHT I miss the first 20 minutes. I KNEW that would happen!
Thanks for the info. At least I know there's one more...
---- TJ
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:53:32 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: get naked line
The line is: "It's amateur night at the Raven, and these amateurs are going
to be showing their inner selves by GETTING NAKED!"
Sigh. What a waste.
---- TJ
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http://www.cybervanguard.com
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:40:04 -0500
From: Will Steeves <goid@i.......>
Subject: Re: A Winter's Tale & "You Know Who"
Catherine A Siemann <cas47@c.......> writes...
>To: DottiR -- disregarding the flagrant violation of spoiler rules that was
>committed here, there's only one possible name for a faction of people who
>believe that You-Know-Who is actually dead. And that would be: Delusional.
Even though this is a case of a Swabb...err Cousin, responding to a Raisine...
err, Ravenette :-), I'll nevertheless refrain from yielding to the
overwhelming temptation to call you biased. :-) Still, why would having such
a belief be delusional?
This isn't FKSpolir, so I won't spoil the episode, except to say this - the
question _was_ left somewhat ambiguous at the time of the "event".
Nevertheless, subsequent events seemed to point towards the correctness of
what you have suggested was the case, although I wouldn't go so far as to
refer to those who disagree with that opinion, as "delusional".
Further discussion to FKSpoilr...
W.
---
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Internex Online (aka ZOOiD BBS & R-Node), Toronto, Ont. "GOiDS Rule"
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- Steeves' Law
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:09:35 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Cross scene?
Hi all!
On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, Katja Stokley wrote:
> The scene in the opening credits with a hand reaching out towards a huge
> cross and bursting into flame - which episode is that from?
If I remember correctly, it's from "For I have Sinned" the one with Joan
of Arc, right?
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:19:32 -0500
From: Calliope <usleamys@u.......>
Subject: My rundown on seasons
Here's my quick personal rundown on the different seasons:
Season One: Let's do crazy things to this vampire! e.g. put him in a
church -- it seemed as though they tried to come up with every weird
situation that was bad for vampires, e.g. testifying during the daylight
Season Two: We've run out of ideas ... guess it's character development
time. Results: BMV, Permanent Hell, The Fix.
Season Three: Let's do crazy things to ALL vampires! e.g. the plague --
having run out of neat character development ideas without resorting to
groundshaking revelations, things happen to vampires in general. Then that
runs dry, and they do resort to revelations.
All my humble opinion, of course.
Cathy
usleamys@u.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:30:29 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Interview With the Nightcrawler 1/?
On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Rebecca Burns wrote:
> MORE MORE! I love it! I can just imagine Uncle having this conversation with
> you Mel! I can't wait for the next installment!
Hey, can someone send me the first one please???? I didn't get it <sob sob>
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:34:31 -0500
From: Rebecca Howle <JHHowle@a.......>
Subject: USA/SciFi Channel, FK & Death By E Mail
With all the planning for this whole Shrewthering, I've been neglecting to
post to this list. But, I do have to say I have been reading all the posts
about the Scifi Channel and USA network, and I know that everyone is still
actively involved in SOS.
Remember write to these people. I think it's all fine and dandy that they are
going to put FK on the Scifi Channel, but guess what? I don't get the
channel. I have called my cable company a million times in the past and I
think it will be a cold day in hell before District Cablevision adds it to
the line up.
So, when all else fails, EMAIL them to death. I have been sending USA Network
an E mail and a letter every week. If everyone does this you know darn well,
they can't ignore us! So get those keyboards and pens ready and Write!
Rebecca
Dark Knightie- All the fun of liking Nick without all the guilt and angst.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 19:43:29 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: YKYB.....
I had another YKYBWTMK happen - My class and I went to see "Wolf Child"
at the Tempe Art Center here in AZ. Well, the father/preacher who finds
the "Wolf Child" was wearing one of those long black coats that LaCroix
wore. All he needed was the hair cut. Then, the actor who plays the "Wolf
Child" came out and I swear at first I thought he was Nick! All he needed
was lighter hair! He had the same hair cut from season 2. I couldn't keep
my eyes off of either of them! <drool, drool>
To top it off,the way the father/preacher acted towards the wolf child
was like how LaCroix treats Nick.
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:59:34 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fanfic Too Real!
Hey--you SENT him chocolates, you did not force feed him. He may have
shared that stuff with his staff. Who knows--this was his wa.
Barbara
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:04:23 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Past FIC Auction
I can't remember who was holding the FIC Auction - remember before the
SOSFK campaign started? I was wondering what ever happened to that - who
won the dates with the Nick, LC, etc.?
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 18:07:50 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Season Discoveries
Jamie,
I agree with you. I saw "Nick Knight" on Lifetime at the start of the
third season--I was brought over in the first season--remotes are
wonderful devices. Frankly, Rick Springfield cannot act, and only he
thinks he can sing. The role on Nick Knight was a joke in his hands,
however, place the same role in the hands of someone who can act with
depth and skill (GWD) and an interesting dymanic character appears.
Barbara
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:16:55 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: AZ FKParty & New FK Fan Club?
Hi all! Before I head home I wanted to make sure everyone knows that I'm
working on organizing a FKParty here in AZ. I think it'll be in the
summer - seems like the best time. Maybe in May or August when it's not
so darn hot. :) Anyway, let me know if you're interested. I need help in
organizing this thing - I never set one up before.
BTW, I got my newsletter from Ger's fanclub and someone in Phoenix named
Jessica wants to form a FK Fan club here. She's also interested in
Highlander (can't remember what else <g>). Anyway, I have here address at
home and, after I hear from her, I can let you all know her address. She
didn't include a phone number on the flyer, so I had to send her via
snail mail. See? If someone actually wants to set up a FK Fan club in AZ,
then that really means FK is popular!
Also, one last thing, I'll be in Tucson on March 29 and April 26 for my
usual seminars, so those of you who live in Tucson - wanna get together for
lunch or something while I'm down?
Heading home to rest - driving to Tucson for a seminar tomorrow.
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:36:57 -0800
From: Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Fraction Groupings
I have been authorized on by half of a beloved assistant listowner to ask
the following of all you fractionated people.
What would a group of Knighties be called? A group of Cousins? Etc.
An easy one would be 'A Murder of Ravens' (or 'An Accessory of Ravens'
depending upon your point of view).
Dona Bonnela (bonnie@o.......)
-- who chopped her cool Vachonesque bangs off and now has to deal with short
Ursine curls.
"Cars are sexier with fins, don't ya think? More predatory." -- JDV
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 22:47:08 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Fanfic Too Real!
On Mar 07, 1996 18:03:15, 'Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>' wrote:
>Anyone ever read _Number of the Beast_ by Heinlein? Then you *know* that the
>stuff authors write actually exists in parallel realities. The Wizard of Oz
>is real. And Nick and Lacroix are apparently making the most of their
>vacation...!
Ohhhhh, yes!
If you have ever participated in a FKFIC war, or ever intend to, and you
have NOT read this book... you must do so, right now, right this minute.
In conjunction with the whole concept of the Wars, that book will scare the
living daylights out of you. <g>
--
-----Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>---<NatPakJami on AOL>
----------Cinnamon Natpacker, A. of the CoS, S.I. of TG(tm)
---------------and clinging to Mercdom by the skin of my teeth
Oh, yeah, and I got this asst. listowner/webgoddess thing going, too.
http://members.aol.com/JamieMR777/NotHomePage.html
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 20:53:48 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
On Thu, 7 Mar 1996, Bonnela Pardoe wrote:
>
> What would a group of Knighties be called? A group of Cousins? Etc.
You mean something like a "Clan" of Cousins? To help with this, I looked up
the word 'group' in MS Word Thesaurus:
Assembly, band, flock, herd, throng, swarm, horde, host, coterie,
brotherhood, cadre. Have a go at it everyone!
I heard of a Brotherhood of Knights or something like that on Avonlea
(remember that one with NB in it?)
How about a coterie of Cousins?
Sorry, just having fun while waiting for my printouts to come out of the
*right* place.
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 22:06:40 GMT
From: Melody Lee <melody@s.......>
Subject: Re: Vachon loop
....loop? Vachon loop? Someone clue me in, please?
Aslo--whoever it is that has a copy of the Nightcrawler tape
(I heard a rumour of it, anyhow) please email me?
-Melody
/\OxO/\
HELLO KITTY _( o _ o )_-Meow?
===(Melody Lee: melody@s.......)=======================(_)=======(_)=======
(http://www.sware.com/~shan/melodylee.html)
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:10:52 -0500
From: Roxanne Piccen <RoxanneP@a.......>
Subject: Re: Alternate casts
On Mar. 6, Felicia O'Sullivan wrote:
>Babylon 5 does Forever Knight!
>Natalie Lambert = Susan Ivanova (intensely dedicated to her work,
Ooh, good idea. But I can't picture her waiting for a vampire, a cop or
any other man coming to her rescue.
> no-nonsense, a somewhat dark sense of humor -- and her
> batting average in romantic relationships is nearly as bad as
> Nat's!)
No kidding. These two women should form some kind of romance - not
club. (Brunettes Who Choose Men They Can't Have, But Have An
Exciting Non-Traditional Career So That's Okay?)
>Vachon = Marcus (you've got one guess what prompted -this-
> match up... and yes, it has lots more to do with hormones
> than character logic <G>)
I've seen him and I agree wholeheartedly with this choice. :-)
>Of course, I still wound up missing a suitable LaCroix. I guess
>that says something about how thoroughly Mr. Bennet put his
>stamp on the character -- even joking around I can't envision
>anyone else in the role!
How about Ambassador Kosh for LaCroix? He's dangerous and
mysterious and always seems to know what's going on, although
he doesn't say much. He doesn't have LaCroix's radio voice (then
who does?), but I do find myself listening intently when he speaks
(mostly trying to figure out the meaning behind his words).
Roxanne
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:15:48 -0500
From: Eileen Salmas <ESalmas@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight versus Forever Knight
I have to agree with Jaime that Nick Knight was horrible. I found myself
throwing things at the TV the first time it aired. Rick Springfield was too
busy playing "hip" and I doubt a 750 year old vampire would act like a rock
star. Lacroix had NO sex appeal.
I gotta tell you, it took a while for the idea of a vampire cop to grow on
me. I had a hard time getting around how Nick could function with the kind a
schedule a cop has to keep, even one on the night shift. That was before we
saw scenes of him coping with the daylight. If you're going to buy into a
show about vampires, there has to be a certain amount of willing suspension
of disbelief, but I felt like I was being lobotomized by the pilot. For some
reason, I began to accept the conceit in the series -- perhaps it's because
the casting was so much better. Give me Ger and Nigel any day.
Eileen
ESalmas@a.......
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 23:18:50 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Fraction Groupings
On Mar 07, 1996 20:36:57, 'Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>' wrote:
>I have been authorized on by half of a beloved assistant listowner to ask
>the following of all you fractionated people.
Yeah, that was me :-)
>What would a group of Knighties be called? A group of Cousins? Etc.
You know, like when you have "a gaggle of geese" or "a litter of
kittens"...
Lessee... a trauma of Knighties... a bounce of Natpackers... a deviance of
Cousins... a profit of Mercenaries... a stylishness of Ravenettes... a
buffet of FoDs...
--
-----Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>---<NatPakJami on AOL>
----------Cinnamon Natpacker, A. of the CoS, S.I. of TG(tm)
---------------and clinging to Mercdom by the skin of my teeth
Oh, yeah, and I got this asst. listowner/webgoddess thing going, too.
http://members.aol.com/JamieMR777/NotHomePage.html
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:38:28 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight versus Forever Knight
Whilst I am *still* waiting for my printouts <g>:
I agree as well. Fortunately, I was brought across during the summer
reruns and saw Blood Money first - Bravo Ger! Great directing! Nick Knight
is alright as a 'vampire' movie but, I agree that it doesn't lead well
into FK. I finally saw Dark Knight parts 1 and 2 recently and IMHO, FK
is *much* better than the movie. Rick Springfield was also lacking alot
of facial/body expression which Ger gives to Nick. Ger is much more expressive
and uses his whole body in it too. I am sorry to say but the actor that
performed LC in the movie doesn't hold a candle to Nigel either.That actor
didn't mesmerize me like Nigel does with LC. Nick Knight just wasn't as
convincing. I couldn't sympathsize with Nick in the movie. Rick also didn't
show Nick reacting enough to dealing with the daylight like Ger does with
Nick. Just not convincing enough. FK is more pleasing to the eye as well
- the setting, etc.
However, I don't mind watching Nick Knight again just for fun. Still,
it's not bad for a vampire movie.
Eileen Salmas wrote:
> I gotta tell you, it took a while for the idea of a vampire cop to grow on
> me.
Not me - I liked the idea right away. Kinda made sense because there is a
night shift. I thought - why not? I don't think Nick would have a problem
functioning with that kinda schedule - I'm sure at first he might, but then
don't we all have to adjust to new jobs? He's been around for almost 800 years
so I think he'd handle it.
> perhaps it's because the casting was so much better. Give me Ger and
> Nigel any day.
Absolutely! Any day or night :)
Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:30:12 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: 3 topics this time!
(1) Forever Knight Charity Bike Tour
Others out there with copies of the latest GWD Fan Club newsletter will
see (among other, much more exciting things) an announcement on page 2 for
the Forever Knight Charity Bike Tour! Yes, that's right, it hasn't gone
away... it's just getting semi-organized! So if you like biking and FK
(well, I suppose the latter is a given, since we're on FORKNI-L here),
drop me a line and join the fun! It's all for a good cause.
The most popular idea so far is to have the ride right before the upcoming
Forever Knight mini-convention to be held at Toronto Trek in early August.
The ride would be somewhere in southern Ontario -- perhaps ending in
Toronto with a tour of some FK filming locations (depending on how
feasible this is, given the traffic conditions in Toronto). Personally
I'm voting to start in Niagara Falls and head down toward
Niagara-on-the-Lake, because there's a Big Whopping Downhill (well, by the
standards of this relatively flat region) early in the route at the
Niagara Escarpment. :^) Then there are some nice rural roads in the
Niagara Peninsula. Day 2 could end with a final approach toward Toronto
to see the skyline at sunset. How... appropriate!
(2) Return of GOiD
Second, I just wanted to say "welcome back" to Will Steeves, a.k.a.
GOiD@i......., who has been noticeably absent from this list for quite some
time. He gets the prize, I think, for being the Ultimate Completist
because rather than going NOMAIL, he seems to have saved all of his
FORKNI-L digests for the last few months and is *reading them in order*!
Since the last message he responded to was from January 17, I suppose
he'll read this in May or June sometime. <g> Will -- we'll see you in
Toronto at The Shrewthering, right????
(3) ObFK
I re-watched "Feeding the Beast" today. Now I know where that whole
"beast within" idea came from in the first place. I can also see why the
Dark Knighties love this episode so much. But do you really want Nick to
"give in" to his vampire side? When he does, he gives up on himself, with
devastating consequences. He sees himself as "an irredeemable,
uncontrollable beast," with no hope of becoming anything different.
<sniff!>
* Allison Percy, Knightie percy91@w....... *
* __o -- Have angst, will travel -- *
* _`\<,_ Now planning the Forever Knight charity bike tour! *
* (*)/ (*) see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html *
* Shrewthering info: http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html *
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:34:09 -0500
From: Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: Faction groupings
Marg Rothschild wrote:
>How about a coterie of Cousins?
I thought coterie was a friendlier term ("A close circle of friends
who share a common interest or background" - Webster), but Webster
adds: "a small, intimate, somewhat select group of people associated
for social or other reasons" -- coterie of Cousins could certainly
work.
Herd of Vaqueros/as? <ducking, running and hiding in a concrete
bunker>
Squad of FoDs? -- nahhh. I liked Jamie's "Buffet of FoDs."
Kim
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:38:29 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: N/N Relationship
Dotti writes:
>Nick and Nat really admitted they felt more for one another than just
>friendship in the episode "Be My Valentine" in the second season.
But what about first season's "Only the Lonely"? In that, Nat is trying
to forget Nick by dating someone else (who turns out to be a serial
killer) and Nick is jealous. At the end of the ep, Nick tries to kiss
her but Nat won't let him. I guess she suddenly wondered if it was
really a good idea to get involved with a vampire.
>Then Nick...whammies Natalie to forget they ever admitted to each other
>how they felt.
Not everyone agrees with that (I don't) and I don't think it's that
apparent that that's what happened in the episode. Nat was under LC's
hypnotic control during LC's and Nick's "discussion" about Fleur.
In the tag, all she says is that she doesn't remember what happened
at the restaurant (which she attributes to too much work and too much
wine). She does *not* say that she forgot what happened with them
in her apartment (which was at least one night before the restaurant
scene with LC).
>There's a lot of questions as to whether or not Natalie really
>whammied
Yes, there are. Some people speculated that she only feel under LC's
hypnotic spell because of him drugging the champagne (but I would
remind folks that he drank the *same* champagne), which I suppose
could be possible. But LC is almost 2000 years old so I can see a
possibility that he has more ability to hynotize people than other
younger vampires.
It's also possible that Nat became more distant with Nick after BMV
because *he* had drawn away from any more romantic contact with her
(out of fear of what LC might do) and her attitude has nothing to do
with any hypnotism at all. Also, we are never shown Nick saying that
he actually loves Nat (all she admits to LC is that he said "beautiful
things"). If he didn't actually come out and say "I love you", Nat
could wonder if he had had second thoughts about kissing her and
saying "beautiful things"--that he was (or they were) swept away by
"Valentine's Day".
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:46:10 -0500
From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: Charting Nick and Nat through rocky shoals
Amy R. r......@w....... writes:
>proverbial desert isle has reminded me that N&N weren't always more than
>friends. When did this transition take place? A single episode? Over a
>season? Between seasons?
All at once, in a big blot <GGG>. "OtL" was *the* episode.
IMO, which is open to question since I'm definitely not an N&N-er and don't
look for tender touches or loving, caring glances from N&N, so don't know if
any of them occurred in first season prior to "Only the Lonely".
As far as *I* am concerned, I don't think we saw Nick "igniting" to Nat until
this episode, when in true male fashion, Nick up and decides he might like
Nat, mainly because he sees another man does and he has to watch it happen.
:)
Again, just MO.
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved Leader*Optimist
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