FORKNI-L
Digest - 6 Mar 1996 to 7 Mar 1996 - Special issue
Thu, 7 Mar 1996
There are 33 messages totalling 1004 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Casting - Alice in Wonderland. (3)
2. FK on SciFi only? Wail!!!!!!!!
3. Airwolf question (3)
4. 1st vs 3rd season (was Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question)
5. Shrewthering and Fleshy Question (2)
6. Fair Warning
7. LISTstuff: If you've been set to nomail, here's why...
8. FK cast-pooh/what season is best
9. GAW Nigel Bennett; "Shrew" tickets
10. FK Wishing Crane Project Update
11. Best season?
12. This Pooh Business (House at Pooh Corner)
13. B5 alternate cast
14. Holiday Postcards (fwd) (2)
15. Fan Fic Site Down . . . AGAIN!
16. Vampire in-jokes
17. music and literature
18. <No subject given>
19. seasonal preferences
20. Apologies -- but I need help
21. Trivialities, & Mrrranda
22. Ger on "Diamonds"
23. which season do you like best?
24. Radio Commercial
25. seasonal comparisons
26. One more question from Tippi
27. Season Discoveries
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 09:52:00 PST
From: Christine Hawkins <chawkins@n.......>
Subject: Casting - Alice in Wonderland.
I've been reading the FK Cast as "Winnie-the-Pooh" characters thread, and it
occurred to me that people have chosen the wrong children's book. "Winnie
the Pooh" is much too cosy: what Forever Knight is "Alice In Wonderland"!
I'd cast the characters in the following roles:
Natalie - Alice.
Nick - White Rabbit, who not only lead Alice down the rabbit hole, but
worries all the time.
Schanke - King of Hearts. An amiable fellow who likes tarts - *jam* ones,
that is. :-)
LaCroix - The Cheshire Cat.
Janette - Alice's cat Dinah. The one who looks so sweet as she catches
birds and mice.
Stonetree - The caterpillar on the mushroom, for his enigmatic sayings.
Cohen - The Queen of Hearts. "Off with his head!"
What does everyone think?
Christine Hawkins
c.hawkins@n.......
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:13:53 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK on SciFi only? Wail!!!!!!!!
> >I can't get the Sci Fi Channel, and neither can
> >most of the San Francisco Bay Area.
After twenty years, I guess I finally found something good about Santa
Rosa....of course my sister just moved to Healdsburg, which, like most of
the rest of the Bay Area, doesn't have it.
But people keep saying that constantly pestering your cable company
proves fairly affective...worth a shot. After all, after some of the
people we've been hounding so far this year, a few measley little cable
companies is nothing.
Alora
<acc0924@i.......>
Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker * Valentine
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:38:35 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Airwolf question
I'm really agreeing with whoever described these eps of Airwolf as "baaaaad
television", but I'm taking it for two reasons. 1) My 10 year old son LOVES
it -- not surprising, considering that's what it's probably geared for, and
2) I keep hoping to get ONE episode that's got a good meaty part for Ger in it.
So far he's been window dressing in every one.
Does anybody who remembers this show know if there are any eps where his
character is in any sort of jeopardy, maybe? Any good angst, or acting,
or ANYTHING?
---- TJ
Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine: News of the Science Fiction Universe
http://www.cybervanguard.com
Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:38:28 -0500
From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: 1st vs 3rd season (was Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question)
John said:
>Their conversations took on a tone of more man-to-man... something you
>can't do with Tracy. The chemistry between Nick/Schanke just isn't the
>same with Tracy. In addition to this, time has passed and the fire
>has died down a bit.
I'm going to agree about the change in chemistry from first season, but
I think that it's (partially) made up for by the fact that everyone seems
a LOT more comfortable in their roles than they were in season 1. (Expect
for John Kapelos, of course. <sulk>)
I miss Schanke!
I think that season 1 isn't so much better than season 3 as it is different.
I miss the humor element that was there then and certainly isn't now, but
I don't think they could have pulled off some of the better stories from this
season back then, if only because people are more comfortable with what they're
doing. I love drama, and I'm enjoying all the great angst we're getting this
season.
Not to say there aren't clunkers this year, but there were clunkers back then
too.
Of course, given my druthers, I'd like a cross between the two -- like,
season 2, maybe ...!
---- TJ
Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine: News of the Science Fiction Universe
http://www.cybervanguard.com
Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:26:31 -0800
From: Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
At 10:56 AM 3/6/96 -0800, John Soo-Hoo wrote:
>
>As for the question about CBS attempt to spice things up... CBS doesn't
>have anything to do with it. "Crimetime After Primetime" was a collection
>of detective shows, period. Along with it you got WiseGuy and Night Heat
>(never could stand that show), and scenes like what you described did
>not proliferate those shows either.
Hey, let's not forget that Silk Stalkings was a Crimetime After
Primetime show, along with Bullets! Just looking at SS makes me gnash my
teeth thinking what Forever Knight could have done with anything like the
push USA gave SS!!!!!!!
Jackie
Support your local Attorney...Send your kid to Medical School!
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:44:32 -0500
From: "(Ruth Dempsey)" <Anglofans@a.......>
Subject: Fair Warning
I have just purchased a used copy of a *wonderful* book
called "The TV Theme Song Sing-Along Book, Vol.2".
Expect more filks on FkFic-L.
Oh, and to whomever emailed me saying she was glad that
"I Dream Of Jeannie"s theme song didn't have any words --
you're *wrong*, it does.
Beg me.
Ruth Dempsey
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:42:37 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: LISTstuff: If you've been set to nomail, here's why...
Since it seems there's always a fair amount of confusion about this, let me
try to explain the "no-mail" thing:
If you find that you have been set to nomail for no apparent reason, it's
not because we don't like you; it is because your mail has been
*bouncing*.
Which means that if one of the listowners/list maintainers (probably Don)
hadn't set you to nomail... you wouldn't have been getting list mail
anyway.
Being unsubbed from the list is basically the same thing, only more
serious, because it means your provider essentially has no idea who you
are.
So basically, the FIRST thing you need to do, if you discover you've been
set to nomail against your will, is to touch base with your internet
provider and find out if there's trouble with your e-mail. Maybe your
mailbox got too full; maybe there was a temporary problem that lasted just
long enough for the PSUVM listserv to be having trouble with your account.
Maybe (as is sometimes the case) your provider doesn't even know there's a
problem. (Pipeline always insists that there's no trouble, even when there
is.) Most of the time, it's just a transient thing; but in the meantime,
every message the list sends to you is going to generate a bounce message,
and um, those are NOT good things.
So: if you wake up one day to find a suspicious lack of e-mail in your box,
the FIRST thing to do is send this command to <listserv@p.......> --
"QUERY <listname>" (Omit quotes, omit brackets, insert listname.) The
listserv will send you back a neat little notice telling you if you're
subscribed and if you've been set to nomail.
If the listserv says you're not subscribed, the proper command is
"SUBSCRIBE <listname> Firstname Lastname" (as above, omit quotes, omit
brackets, insert listname.)
If the listserv says you're set to nomail, the command you want is "SET
<listname> MAIL" -- which will return your subscription to the way it was
(in other words, if you were on digest, you'll still be on digest.)
Or if you simply cannot remember any of the commands, you can send the
one-word command "HELP" to the listserv address, and you'll get back a
handy little list of commands.
Or if you can't even manage that, you can scream for help to *me*
(immajer@p.......; write it down on a label and stick it to the
monitor<g>) and I'll help out as fast as possible. (Which does not imply
warp-speed responses, but I do what I can.)
Hope that this helps, and alleviates panic among those who suddenly find
themselves "listless" :-)
--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>
SFK WebGoddess -- Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR
Cinnamon Natpacker -- The Illustrated One -- clinging to Mercdom like
lichen to a...
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Cyberdeities. Sheesh." -- [Name removed by request]
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Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 19:48:22 EST
From: CINDY L BREWER <DHRC98C@p.......>
Subject: FK cast-pooh/what season is best
Hi Guys,
On Tuesday March 5,1996 Bonnela wrote:
>Yes! After all, why do Tiggers bounce? 'Cause they can!
Major ROTFL! Please make it stop....my sides hurt from laughing so
hard.Now I have this mental image of Tigger bouncing around the Raven in a
leather jacket.........:-)
As for what season was better.....I came in about halfway into the
second season. I do think the third season did the best they could with
what they had. I think Vachon was an interesting addition.
What I miss is the humor......first and second seasons seemed to
have so much more humor than this season.I think mainly it was all the
vampire injokes Nat and Nick could get away with in front of Schanke, that
they can't say now in front of Tracy.:-)
Cindy Brewer DHRC98C@p.......
Knightie,Nick&Natpacker,Optimist's club
Vaquera
"You're the only supernatural friend I have."Tracy to Vachon
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:22:54 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: GAW Nigel Bennett; "Shrew" tickets
(1) GAW Nigel Bennett
I'd like to add my public congratulations to Gemini Award Winner
Nigel Bennett to those of other listmembers. I spent this morning
re-watching "Curiouser & Curiouser" and he was terrific! I will
do my best to remain silent on the choices for the other Gemini
awards, though....
I also websurfed over to the Cousinly Home Page to see what the
competition is up to and noted that Gemini Award Winner Nigel Bennett's
status as a Gemini Award Winner has not yet been incorporated into
the information on this page. It still lists him as Gemini Award
*Nominee* Nigel Bennett, which is certainly impressive, but it has
been *days* since Gemini Award Winner Nigel Bennett became a Gemini
Award Winner.
Hop to it, Cousins! ;^) You never know when Gemini Award Winner
Nigel Bennett might decide to surf over and check out his pictures
on the page (freaky and tilted though they might be...).
For the curious, or the Curiouser & Curiouser, the address of the
Cousinly home page is:
http://www.glue.umd.edu/~sdragon/cerk.html
(2) "Shrew" Tickets
Sorry to butt into FORKNI-L with Shrew information, but I think there
might be a few people who haven't subscribed to DEBSPLAY yet who plan
on going.
Latebreaking news: if you're planning on seeing Geraint Wyn Davies in
"Taming of the Shrew" in Toronto at the end of April, you can get
tickets *now* if you go through a group. Individual tickets are not
available until March 18. To find out how to get in on a group ticket
purchase, go to The Shrewthering's web page (see the address in my
.sig). There are people in Canada and the U.S. buying tickets for
groups.
If you are webless and can't check out The Shrewthering page, e-mail me
with the word SHREW in the subject line and I'll put you in touch with
a group ticket buyer in the country of your choice! :^)
Well, perhaps two seemingly unrelated topics are enough for one post.
See ya later!
* Allison Percy, Knightie percy91@w....... *
* -- Have angst, will travel -- *
* See GWD in "Taming of the Shrew" April 25, 26, & 27 in Toronto. *
* For info, go to http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/shrew.html *
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:58:57 -0600
From: Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: FK Wishing Crane Project Update
The total number of cranes received to date:
373
THIS IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH! We need 3000 cranes, people! Tell your friends! (I
got 2 FK fans at work to learn how to fold cranes on their lunch hours!) Hold
crane-folding parties! Remember, you've got until 3/17 to get your cranes
folded and mailed.
And don't forget to include a HANDWRITTEN note with your cranes, telling Sony
why you want more, NEW episodes of Forever Knight! If you mailed your cranes
already, and forgot to put in a note, mail a note off, too!
Once again, the FK Wishing Crane Project Webpage is:
http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/fkcranes.html
The web pages for crane folding instructions are:
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~adysart/origami/crane1.html
and
http://jw.stanford.edu/KIDS/SCHOOL/ART/origami/kids_origami_crane1.html
Bonnie has also offered to e-mail written instructions. Contact her at
bonnie@o.......
Or go to your local library. Most of them have origami books, and the crane is
one of the most common patterns, so any book is sure to have it.
Please use 3" (7.5cm) paper. It's important that all the cranes be the same
size, for aesthetic reasons, if nothing else.
If you're *east* of the Mississippi-- or outside the US-- e-mail me
(gryphon@e.......). Tell me where you're from and I'll send you the
appropriate address to mail your cranes to. Viper is Eastern Coordinator, but
his internet provider keeps giving him grief over the volume of mail he's
getting from the list. If you're *west* of the Mississipi, e-mail Bonnie at
bonnie@o....... and she'll give you *her* mailing address. She's Western
Coordinator.
Keep in mind that 10 cranes, tucked into a business envelope (with a note on
why you love FK and want to see it continue), will weigh more than one ounce.
So, you'll need to put more than one stamp on it.
Bonnie and Viper will then assemble the mobiles and ship them off to the
appropriate Sony executives.
And please remember, for this to work, you must *concentrate*, with each fold,
on *wishing for a fourth season of Forever Knight*!
E-mail me with any questions.
Diane E
# D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... #
# WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:45:01 -0800
From: Bonnela Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Casting - Alice in Wonderland.
At 09:52 AM 3/7/96 PST, Christine Hawkins wrote about FK in Wonderland:
>Natalie - Alice.
>Nick - White Rabbit, who not only lead Alice down the rabbit hole, but
>worries all the time.
> Schanke - King of Hearts. An amiable fellow who likes tarts - *jam* ones,
>that is. :-)
>LaCroix - The Cheshire Cat.
>Janette - Alice's cat Dinah. The one who looks so sweet as she catches
>birds and mice.
>Stonetree - The caterpillar on the mushroom, for his enigmatic sayings.
>Cohen - The Queen of Hearts. "Off with his head!"
Vachon -- The Mad Hatter
Screed -- The March Hare
Urs -- The Door Mouse
Tracy -- Maryann (the White Rabbit's Girl Friday)
And as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum....
Feltheimer and Koplovitz
Which reminds me, has anyone thought to write a fan fic along the lines of
"Rosencrantz and Gildenstern Are Dead" with Feltheimer and Koplovitz in the
title roles? And Nickie as the Danish Prince of Angst?
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:42:21 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <Hooizthis@a.......>
Subject: Re: Best season?
About Nick not seeming to want to be mortal -
One of the interesting things about this season, is that Nick seems
to have some ambivalence about whether he really wants to be
mortal again. I first got that sense in "Night in Question", and
noticed it even more in several later episodes.
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 21:41:00 -0500
From: Chana Rossman <bonney@i.......>
Subject: Re: This Pooh Business (House at Pooh Corner)
Valerie Lynn Meachum said...
>Thanks to you gloriously silly people, I now have the song "House at Pooh
>Corner" running incessantly through my head for what will probably be the
>next six hours at least. You *don't* want to know the images that are
>accompanying it as a result of this thread... %-}
Oh, yeah. I remember that song. Went something like this
didn't it... :-)
So help me if you can
I've got to get back
To the Loft that I live in by one
You'd be surprised
My reaction to sun
Count all of the bottles of blood
Angst over days that are done
Back to the days of Nick the vamp and Nat
Nicholas Brabant doesn't know what to do
Got a hunger for blood he never chose
He came to me asking help and advice
And from here where he goes no one knows
So I sent him to ask Natalie if she can
Find a way to make Nicolas human again
That's right isn't it? ;-) Unfortunately I can't remember
the rest.
If they don't start showing new episodes soon, we're going to
start doing silly stuff like singing the Brady Bunch theme...
no wait, we already did that...
Chana
bonney@i.......
Knightie * Natpacker * Nick&Natpacker
If life were easy, then just anybody could do it.
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:59:02 -0500
From: Margie Hammet <Hooizthis@a.......>
Subject: Re: Casting - Alice in Wonderland.
I love La Croix as the Cheshire cat!
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:16:04 -0800
From: Sandra Chew <sandra@s.......>
Subject: Re: Airwolf question
Does anyone know which station--cable or not--that Airwolf is on??
Thanks!
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:40:00 EST
From: Maria Montalvo <maria@m.......>
Subject: Re: B5 alternate cast
Felicia O'Sullivan <f.osullivan@g.......> wrote:
>Babylon 5 does Forever Knight!
>
>Nick Knight = John Sheridan (definite white-knight complex,
> charming -- okay, so he needs to work on the angst a bit... )
I'd go with Jeffrey Sinclair -- he had the angst down pat, had a definite
death wish, and what a great voice.
>Don Schanke = Vir (a nice guy, smarter than he seems, but
> badly out of his depth in the situation) or Garibaldi (good
> at his job, loyal to his friends, tends to write off wild
> theories...)
I'd go with Garibaldi -- he's more Everyman than Vir, and looks like he'll
have about the same fate as Schanke. And he's got the food thing down (so
we get bagna cauda rather than souvlaki).
>Of course, I still wound up missing a suitable LaCroix. I guess
In B5 terms, the best choices are probably Bester and Morden. Neither
have the physical presence of LaCroix, but I could definitely see
Morden with fangs.
Maria
maria@m....... (eventually mmontalvo@l.......; may even work now)
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:25:51 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Holiday Postcards (fwd)
FYI -- anyone get a different answer?
As a lawyer, my gut reaction to "legal considerations" is that
it's a crock.
Ap.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:26:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Adrienne D. Fargas <adf@c.......>
To: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: RE: Holiday Postcards (fwd)
I guess we'll never find out exactly how many votes FK/Geraint/PAF got.
Bummer.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 14:21:00 PST
From: Callback <callback@m.......>
To: adf <adf@c.......>
Subject: RE: Holiday Postcards
Sorry, but due to legal obligations we cannot release the figures.
Regards,
SPE Webmaster
----------
From: adf
To: callback
Subject: Holiday Postcards
Date: Wednesday, February 28, 1996 10:12AM
Are you ever going to post the results from the Holiday Post
Card drive? Will we ever be able to find out whose postcard was
sent the most and the donation amount to each charity?
Just wondering,
Adrienne D. Fargas
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:34:32 -0500
From: Dalton Spence <dalton.spence@f.......>
Subject: Fan Fic Site Down . . . AGAIN!
I certainly hope that the disappearance on the FK fiction web site is a
temporary one (it was last time) and means the owner has finally found
the time to update it. If the URL has changed, could someone please post
the new one on the list? I would ask to be e-mailed, but I'm sure other
inquiring minds want to know. (With my luck, by the time this hits the
list the site will be up and running again, making me look like an idiot
[not that I need help %-?].)
Dalton S. Spence, B.Sc. <ag775@f.......>
Home Page: http://www.freenet.hamilton.on.ca/~ag775/home.html
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:35:54 CST
From: L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Vampire in-jokes
I agree with whomever said that the second season was funnier partly because
Nick and Nat could get away with vampire in-jokes in front of Schanke that
they can't because of Tracy knowing about vampires.
This goes back to my initial problem with Tracy replacing Schanke. Schanke
served as a dramatic foil for the vampire community. The community knew
so much (from living so long) and were so morose because of it, while Schanke
was blissfully ignorant of many things and was happier for it. (Remember
how freaked he was when he almost figured out Nick was a vampire?)
Tracy *knows* about vampires and it has completely restructured her life.
Prior to this revelation, she was always "daddy's little girl" (or so we are
led to believe) but Vachon has opened her mind to possibilities outside what
her father had always wanted for her. (Spoilers for Strings if I go any
farther with this line of reasoning) Look at what Vachon said to Nick in HoD:
"She's still trying to cope with the new wrinkle in her reality."
Tracy will never serve as a counterpoint to the vampires. If anything, she
becomes an analogy for Nat, drawn to darkness but fighting for the light.
Inside your mind, as always,
L'Phantom
--Cousin-in-training
http://bsc.edu/~jrarmstr/
Help Save Forever Knight! Ask me how! jrarmstr@b.......
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:41:46 -0500
From: Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Re: Shrewthering and Fleshy Question
> >ObFK Comment: I just saw the repeat of "Hearts of Darkness" (I missed the
> >first minute including the "Let's get naked!" line)
What "Let's get naked" line? Both times I saw Hearts of Darkness there
was no dialogue until Vachon started talking to Urs - something like "If
she's an amateur I'm a vegetarian".
Katja Stokley -*- cstokley@g.......
-*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:46:13 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: music and literature
On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, June Russell wrote:
> Where does the quote from the final Nightcrawler broadcast in Sons of Belial
> come from? (I thought it was from Paradise Lost because LC says PL at the
> end and it sounded like Milton, but I've looked through the whole x3*@% poem
> and can't find the quote. Did I just miss it?)
Paradise Lost, Book 1, starting at line 496.
Ap.
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:46:36 -0500
From: Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: <No subject given>
op deleting posts that I want to respond
to... Sigh...
OK. To the nice person who pointed out that FK airs on
TV-20 in the SF Bay Area: Yup. I know. That's where
I watch it now, too.
BUT (and it's a big but!) my question was about where the
*first and second season reruns* will air starting this
spring, and the answer seems to be "exclusively on the
Sci-Fi Channel," which would be a *major* bummer. My
cable company, which services a hefty chunk of the Bay
Area, doesn't carry it. Which means that we won't get to
see those first and second season eps 'round these here
parts. And that when KOFY's contract is up in the fall, we
won't get *any* FK on KOFY/TV-20 anymore, either, as
USA owns the exclusive rights to FK.
Which is why we need to write more syrupy letters to
Kay & Co. asking that those reruns air on <gag> <retch>
USA.
Lisa W. * MVRJasper@a.......
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:06:45 -0400
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: seasonal preferences
Ok. Ive already said this but I want to add on a bit:
I like 3rd season best. In addition to my other comments, I like
that Ger is shaven ! He's got a lovely face (and a nice chin) and I like
to *see* it, not see lots of hair (lovely tho it is) and scraggly fur
hiding it. I also love his new wardrobe. I never thought I'd enjoy
"conservative" clothing (for me that is, I'm a trenchcoat staple kinda gal).
Also, and please dont flame me for this, this is just my opinion ...
I thought 1st season was really bad. It had some good episodes, but all of
it just made me kinda wince. Sometimes it was a matter of good plots but
mishandled. 2d season is much better, but ... sorry ... i never quite
got into Janette. I like her about as much as I like Tracy, in a distant kinda
way. 3rd season is *fun*! Has some really good episodes, and is handled with
alot more assurance.
okee dokee said my piece ...
go to sleep Toni
night
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:09:20 -0500
From: Eileen Salmas <ESalmas@a.......>
Subject: Apologies -- but I need help
Please accept my apologies for posting this to the list, but for the past 4
days I've been trying to privately Email the following people. Every time I
send a post, it comes back from their postmasters as undeliverable mail or
user unknown and I HAVE checked and rechecked the addresses and know I'm
sending them correctly. Could you please contact me, so I can hit reply and
hopefully get through to you? Thanks. I'm new to the lists and have been
trying to get missing chapters to stories you're posting. If I'm doing
something wrong with the addresses below -- please let me know. Thanks again
to anyone who can help me.
Henry Wycoff (wycoff@a.......) Cycle of Axer Carrick - I need
everything before part 4 (29/30)
Katrinka (stukendalca@m.......) Death on 2 Legs parts 1-20
Jayel (MLifesey@s.......) -- The Gift parts 1-15
Virtual chocolate to you all!
Eileen Salmas
ESalmas@a.......
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:26:44 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Trivialities, & Mrrranda
Christina Kamnikar wrote:
>As for Nick's police background---he "helped" the London police with
>the Ripper case in the 1880's (Bad Blood)
I don't remember him helping the police. In fact, seems to me he told
LC that he was leaving for America the next day. LC asked him to take
care of the "barber" he'd attacked (and had been made ill by his blood),
to make sure that the man was dead and wouldn't come across. I do
recall some fanfic where Nick helped the London police with the Ripper
case--perhaps that's what you're recalling?
>and also did street work in Chicago in the '30's (can't remember the
>ep, but it was 2nd season)
That ep was "Amateur Night", I think, but the flashback wasn't in the
'30's--as someone pointed out at the time, there was a '60's style car
in an alley in one scene and cop uniforms haven't changed much in
Chicago.
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 19:30:41 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Ger on "Diamonds"
What is this show about? Is "Diamonds" part of a series? A movie?
I do not get showcase so I need to know what to look for--in case it
shows up somewhere else.
Thank you
Barbara
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:41:59 -0500
From: Rebecca Burns <r.burns@g.......>
Subject: Airwolf question
On Wednesday, March 6, 1996, Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine wrote:
CM> Does anybody who remembers this show know if there are any eps where his
CM> character is in any sort of jeopardy, maybe? Any good angst, or acting,
CM> or ANYTHING?
I might be able to help you out...
As a fan of the Ger Airwolf Eps since they first showed them on (ducking) the
USA Network back in 85, I can safely say that there are a couple eps that
focus around Ger. There's an amnesia episode (WOR hasn't aired it yet, but I
have it on tape.) and one where he plays a dual role (that of his regular
character, Mike Rivers, and a German pilot who wants to defect...He speaks
German!)
Hopefully, WWOR will have the decency to show all of them.
Cousin Becky
(Self-appointed Ger Airwolf Semi-Infowizard)
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 22:40:29 -0600
From: Sharon Joy <SJoy@u.......>
Subject: Re: which season do you like best?
I was brought across near the beginning of second season, but have seen all
of the first season. It is really hard to choose, because each season has
its gems and its misses. But I'd have to go with second season. I just
don't think anything comes close to the brilliance in writing, direction
and acting in Curiouser and curiouser, the Fix and Be my Valentine. As you
might guess, these are my favorites. But A More Permanent Hell, Stranger
than Fiction, Close Call ("What has chanegd in you to make this so suddenly
apparent" oooh - love that LC/Schanke scene!), even Queen of Harps, Near
Death, Baby, Baby and Killler Instinct were great, because they showed us
so much of Nick and his struggle.
I also enjoy the first season episodes - most of them. And, on the
rewatching of them, I'm enjoying season three. It doesn't reach as high as
the first two seasons, but I can certainly live with the Trace and Vachon
(Vachon is OK by me-just get him by me, already!) and Reese is (I agree
with whomever) the best captain, IMO.
Top Ten - I never did post them last week
1. Be My Valentine (What feeble excuse do you have for breaking our agreement)
2. Curiouser and Curiouser
3. The Fix
4. Stranger Than Fiction
5. Only the Lonely
6. Night in Question
7. Fever
8. I Will Repay
9. Father Figure
10. Human Factor (ok, I'm ready to take the flak. I liked it)
11. Queen of Harps
I watched For I have Sinned again last night...All that talk about the
cross made me want to see it again. And also saw the last half of Dark
Night. Yup, can't argue, first season was good. I like them all. And I
can't belive that we've got a few more to go and that'll be it. For a
while, anyway. WAHHHHH.
Gotta sleep now. Regards to all.
--Sharon
--------Sharon Joy - A Forever Knightie - SJoy@u.......
There's a past and-----there's a past...
Go here: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:50:44 -0600
From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Radio Commercial
At 01:55 PM 3/6/96 -0800, Amy R. wrote:
>On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
>> I just heard a radio commercial for Forever Knight on USA...
>> And now they're showing it on Tuesdays at 10:00 p.m.? This is so insane.
>
>Tuesdays at 10?!?! When the rest of the country is watching NYPD Blue?
>Like, *last night*, when I specifically checked the TV schedule, and it
>said that they were showing two consecutive episodes of Silk Stalkings?
>Does this mean I missed this week's rerun? Does this mean there won't be
>a rerun Friday morning? Does this give us any hope that USA might
>someday be sensible enough to give the world a HL/FK block every evening?
>That's what I'm changing my letters to, btw. "I've heard that you now own
>the syndicated rights to the first two seasons of the remarkable series
>"Forever Knight," and I want to urge you air those episodes in tandem with..."
>
>***** Amy R. r......@w....... (Knightie-in-training; N&Ner)
>"For how do I hold thee but by thy granting...?" -- W.S. Sonnet 87
>
>
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 00:00:50 -0500
From: Deborah Bender <DBendr@a.......>
Subject: seasonal comparisons
<<In particular, I like the
theory (whose theory? Susan's, maybe?) that the fan's perception of the
show (and often choice/s of affiliation/s) are significantly influenced by
the season they saw first.>>
Marina Bailey says that was her theory. I thought it was MY theory. I posted
a long discussion of it a couple of weeks ago. Other people have mentioned
the idea in passing. Any archivist here want to settle which one of us gets
the prize?
There was a certain amount of gratuitous sex first season, to the point
where I coined the phrase "bimbo of the week" and other listmembers started
making jokes about Dead Models In Lingerie (TM). Quite a few of the plots
revolved around the murder of some glamour girl. There was also a plot with
a leather-corsetted dominatrix, in the Canadian version of Cherry Blossoms
the acupuncturist's rooms are back of a whorehouse, a police officer's wife
gets involved with some kinky adulterous sex, etc. The first half dozen
episodes or so were produced with some scenes being shot twice, with the
actresses being barebreasted in one version, for the German market. However,
Telemunchen got talked out of that pretty quickly.
I have watched all of first season several times and I think the bimbo
factor was reduced in the later episodes. This is a subjective impression.
The very last broadcast episode of first season had what I consider the
classic first season FK plot premise: someone is kidnapping and murdering
models. However, the level of intelligence and sophistication with which this
was handled redeemed it from being totally exploitative. Early on, Schanke is
raving to Nick about one of the victims, who was a memorable centerfold; Nick
never heard of her and Schanke's attitude is lightly satirized. When another
model is kidnapped, at first she is helpless and frightened. Rather than
simply be a passive rescue object, she gathers her wits and uses feminine
wiles, ingenuity and surprise to escape. So Love You To Death turns out to
have a credible feminist element (as well as terrific cinematography and
music).
I agree with all of Tami's comments on the strengths and weaknesses of
season one vs. season two. There were some very hot moments between Nick and
Janette, all done with suggestion and immense style, unlike the crass
standing-up-in-the-park sex scene in season two. I can watch those clips over
and over.
It is a terrible shame that the difficulties of financing the show have
kept interrupting the production process, because both season two and season
three got much better in the later episodes, when the cast and writers had
gotten used to working together (no doubt we will see a falling off in the
last six eps, after the boom was lowered). If only some good angel had
provided the wherewithal for these artists to get on with their jobs, they
could have gone straight through for four seasons without major cast changes
and produced a body of work for the ages. What we have left is very, very
uneven.
Deborah Bender DBendr@a.......
The saddest words of tongue or pen
Are these: "What might have been."
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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 00:21:52 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: One more question from Tippi
Hey all,
Does anyone know if ascii files can be attached to fkfic postings? The
reason I ask is because about half the people have been getting my posted
stories either without quotes or with weird symbols. I cut and paste from
Word into AOL, but it's the same with Amipro. No way am I gonna write the
whole story in AOL! So I'm wondering if ascii files can be sent... I've
spent the past 2 hours experimenting and the results are the same -- no
quotes! Argh!
ObFK: Oh wait, that's what I was gonna ask on jadfe. Never mind!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 00:19:31 EST
From: MS CHRISTINA L KAMNIKAR <VQRW76A@p.......>
Subject: Season Discoveries
I came in on FOREVER KNIGHT before it began.
I actually taped NICK KNIGHT and kept it, the first time it was
aired. Oh, no big deal? It was one of the very first shows I taped and
kept. I watched it over and over, and wished they'd make a series about it.
When they did, I was suspicious at first. Who was this Geraint Wyn
Davies guy? Why was the coroner a woman? Schanke was very reassuring---it
made me feel that I DID have the right show. But the scenes with Allyce
"Hold Me" Hunter almost made me sorry it'd been picked up for CTAPT. And I
kept praying they wouldn't make Nick and Nat more than friends, since they
seemed so _normal_ just as compadres. I was sick of the MOONLIGHTING thing.
And then they aired LAST ACT, and I became an addict.
So, I was introduced to Lacroix via Nick's nightmarish flashbacks,
and didn't stop whole-heartedly hating him until after BMV. I met our
Janette in the first ep, and was later relieved she wasn't the cold
ice-bitch they'd made her in the TV movie. Natalie had time to grow on me
for a long time as Nick's friend... and then Denver CBS-TV stopped showing
FK after 11 episodes.
A nice friend got me copies of the rest of season 1, so I thought
of Nat as Nick's friend for a -very- long time. Hard switch there, after
OtL. Then I came in a couple eps into Season 2, not having been warned that
it was starting again...and had to play catch up. Why wasn't Lacroix dead,
damnit??? :) Where the heck did Stonetree go? I missed him.
All of this may explain my Merc-ness. I've had such a sporadic
viewing history, and the characters have changed so much from time to time,
that I simply like all of them, root for them, and can't pick a side.
Unless, of course, I've got a very good reason to.... :)
Christina, Mercenary, O- FoFoD, Natpacker/Ravenette/Knightie/Perky
vqrw76a@p....... /Vaquera sympathies... and a sneaking wish to
have a long conversation with Uncle, should someone put him in a nice cage
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Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:34:14 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Holiday Postcards (fwd)
Oh please! Legal considerations. Has anyone ever heard of a corp. that
did not want to look good in the press with $$ to a needy group. They
are hiding the impact that "nonexistant" fans made with those postcards.
Unethical slimes. Perhaps someone could end run them--ask PAF how much
was donated from the campaign--a reporter type, yes?
Barbara
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