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Digest - 5 Mar 1996

Tue, 5 Mar 1996

There are 29 messages totalling 660 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. FW: Revenge is a dish best served from beyond the grave
  2. Next Year Nominations
  3. FORKNI-L Digest - 4 Mar 1996 to 5 Mar 1996 - Special issue (2)
  4. x-files / nowhere man lists?
  5. dream cast (2)
  6. Target: USA/keeping up the fight
  7. Charity Auction/Party (2)
  8. Late Night Wars on HBO
  9. More Sundry Matters
 10. (Fwd) Re: HI THERE
 11. Nigel on "Star Command" (2)
 12. Father Figure Lullaby??
 13. Words that rhyme with angst
 14. Next Year's Geminis
 15. Cross scene? (2)
 16. Anybody doing Nightcrawler Tape?
 17. Target: USA <long>
 18. Cross/flame scene
 19. Vachon loop
 20. Filk challange
 21. FK Fic, etc
 22. A *different* approach
 23. Episode Guide - Second Season
 24. Frogs

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:28:18 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: FW: Revenge is a dish best served from beyond the grave

Sherri Lynn Godsey wrote:

>Thanks for the advise, Tippi, however....

The reason I gave the advice I gave was because I was under the impression
that you were asking if we *all* should send condolence cards.  I certainly
didn't mean to try to try to tell an *individual* what to do.  But I *did*
think it might get nasty if we *all* started sending the cards.  That was my
worry, and anything I said about stooping to TPTB's sneaky levels was meant
in general and not aimed at any one person.  Apologies.  My god a Cousin
apologizing!  Yipes! I better go do something wicked before I turn all soft.
;)

Wicked Cousin Tippi

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:17:26 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Next Year Nominations

In Valerie's postulations about next year's Gemini nominations, she makes
many for "Fever."  May I add--

"Gillian Horvath for writing "Fever"?"

Regards
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Faithful Ravenette, because somebody STILL has to.
Discover the power of Forever Knight at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Mon, 4 Mar 1996 05:40:26 -0800
From:    Tara Housman <amprsand@s.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 4 Mar 1996 to 5 Mar 1996 - Special issue

CINDY L BREWER <DHRC98C@p.......> asked:
>
>Hi Guys,
>I'm just curious if there's a picture of Fred in a magazine or newspaper
>anywhere that I could go to the library and look up?
>I know its easier to look it up on the WEB but since I don't have access
>I'd be greatful if someone could point me in the right direction.:-)

  Why not ask Fred himself? Judging from correspondence I've had with him,
chances are that he's probably pretty clueless as to whether any images of
him exist on the WWW (or any other part of the Internet, for that matter),
but he probably keeps up reasonably well with what is in print. His email
address is: zoomar1010@a........

  Try to keep the messages short and to the point, though, since, like all
Canadians, he has to pay an extra 20-cents-per-minute tariff whenever he
logs on to AOL.
                      -&&&

Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help, email me and/or visit:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 08:57:54 -0500
From:    Rosie Rigg <rosie@d.......>
Subject: Re: x-files / nowhere man lists?

On Mar 4, 10:55pm, Melody Lee wrote:
> Subject: x-files / nowhere man lists?
Okay, kind of off topic for this list (sorry!) But I don't know
where else to ask. Does anyone know if there are mailing lists
out there somewhere for "X-files" or "Nowhere Man"? Please email me
if you know...


Please email me also...Thanks!!
--
Rosie Rigg                              rosie@d.......
Dickens Data Systems                    [Phone numbers removed]
[Address removed]


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Date:    Mon, 4 Mar 1996 15:28:14 CST
From:    Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: dream cast

In: "Re: dream cast", mailed on Mon, 04 Mar 96 14:57:18 CST  , colin
paddock wrote:

>
> Call me stupid, but i think that Mr.Bean would play a *very* good
> Nick.
> Cp

%<%<%<%<

>

Don Durham replied:

Are you sure that Rowan Atkinson can be sufficiently brickish to
play Nick?
Now I lay me down to bed,                       |Don Durham
Darkness can't engulf my head,                  |Don.durham@d.......
I can see by infrared,                          |[Phone numbers removed]
God I love the night!   LL after Marvin,tPA     |

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Date:    Mon, 4 Mar 1996 09:29:24 EST
From:    MS GILLIAN A ELDRIDGE <VRKP26B@p.......>
Subject: Re: Target: USA/keeping up the fight

FK being on SciFi need not be a death sentence, depending when they
show it. If it's tucked away at three in the morning, that could be a
problem, but if it's on at a decent time people *will* see it. Not that
many cable companies carry SciFi now, but it is the most requested
channel, and is being offered by more and more systems each month. That
means a steady stream of new viewers. Yes, of course, running HL and FK
together each night is a good idea (throw in QL as well, there's a
large crossover audience there, too), and we should certainly keep up
the pressure on USA, but until that happens, let's not be depressed
about it being on SciFi. Especially as SciFi viewers will undoubtedly
love FK.

The main thing to remember is that we don't give up. It might not
happen quickly, it might be years even, but it *will* happen. What we
have to do is keep up a steady stream of pressure. Take Quantum Leap as
an example. After NBC canceled it (and don't get me started on that or
I'll be here all day) everyone but the fans assumed it was dead. No
way! It's a big hit on cable, there are videos, a CD, three conventions
in the US each year plus others worldwide, and the fan club is twice
the size of when the show was canceled, not to mention the books (over
a million copies of the novels in print, plus several non-fiction books)
. Online, there are large groups of fans on AOL and Genie (where there
are three regularly scheduled chats each week), a thriving newsgroup
and dozens of websites. No, we don't have our movie yet, but we have
been told it will happen, and I have no doubt that it will, eventually.

My point is, that even though we've (as somebody else said) lost the
battle, the war isn't over. So long as there are cousins and Natpackers
and everyone else around, so long as we don't let this setback get us
down, Forever Knight will never die. We won't let it.

Jill Eldridge
g.eldridge1@g.......
http://pages.prodigy.com/NJ/gae/qlelmain.html

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:12:43 -0600
From:    Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Charity Auction/Party

The following is posted by request of a FK "loop"

The Nigel Bennett Fan Club would like to inform you
of an upcoming event. A Fan Wrap Party and Charity
Auction hosted by Nigel Bennett. He will be
auctioning off much of the wardrobe that was
prepared for him in his role as LaCroix (Both
present day and flashback garb) plus props donated
by Nick Gray from the set of *Forever Knight*. This
will take place in October of 1996 in San
Francisco. Exact date and time to follow.

>From StarFrost:
Would you like to spend most of your time, energy
and sanity for the next seven months working hard,
so that other people can have a great time? Can you
afford to have your stress levels reach undreamed
of heights? After you've given your all, can you
accept the fact that almost no one will know or
care that you've been instrumental in one of the
most exciting fan events of this or any other
century?

If I've got your attention and you are willing to
surrender all. Then I, Star Urioste, am looking for
you. I need a few more people to make up a core
group of individuals to assist in chairing this
Wrap Party/Charity Auction. Plus a group of support
personnel to perform menial, mindless and endless
task (Gophers and Grunts.) An when I say surrender;
I mean it. This will not be a democracy, it will be
a monarchy where I will demand the very best of
your creativity, technical expertise and commitment
to the event and to Nigel's favoraite charites.

I want people who are willing to work with me and
for me, up to, during and after this event. You
must be a team player and put aside all personal
agendas to make this event a success. If you can do
this and still have a good time, contact me.
StarFrost@a....... or write to [Address and phone
number removed]. Experience isn't
necessary, but commitment is a matter of life or
undeath.<W>

Thanks a million. StarFrost




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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:15:27 -0600
From:    Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Charity Auction/Party

Sorry..my server "grabbed" that message when I was in the middle of typing!
Hungry 'lil beast! The post in reference to the Charity Auction/Party was
posted by request of a FK "Loop" member and with the approval of forkni-l
list owner. Thank you Jaye!

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:18:24 -0600
From:    Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Late Night Wars on HBO

 While watching this HBO original movie again the other night (the one with
John Kapelos) I found another FK irony. "Jay Leno's" agent/manager is on the
phone talking to an unknown party saying something along the lines of "Its
for charity damm*t, Pediatric Aids!"


Annmarie

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:57:49 -0500
From:    patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: More Sundry Matters

        Gang:
        I am going to amputate my itchy delete finger unless it learns to
behave. I am issuing a plea for two -- make that three -- things.

        1. The URL for the picture of the listmember's driver's license
with fangs.
        2. Would the author of the story "Rage" on the FKFIC-L list please
contact me at my private address?
        3. Someone mentioned that they had filled up two tapes with Night-
crawler stuff. Would *that* person please contact me?

        Thanks.

        ObFK: I've heard some plans about a card game, similar to "Magic:
The Gathering," for FK. Anyone have any insight on this? Okay, so it's
not *really* FK-related. Sue me.

        Pat -- Lone Nanette, B-Negative FoD
        Web Page Designer-In-Training

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:24:04 -0400
From:    Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 4 Mar 1996 to 5 Mar 1996 - Special issue

email me too about the xfiles list@@@@@!!

toni m.
ma97ad14@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:19:05 -0500
From:    "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: (Fwd) Re: HI THERE

Just got this from our friendly composer.

If I'm not mistaken, Justin Pierce was an early contact person back when
TriStar was thinking about syndicating FK wasn't he?

Sharon

>----- Forwarded message (ZOOMAR1010@a.......) -----<

Justin should be contacted and polite pressure should be exerted to let the
show live on in reruns on local stations or at least USA Network as opposed
to the Sci Fi Channel which very few cable companies carry..
Frankly, the show will virtually disappear if this happens..

pass it on..

Fred

--
Sharon A. Himmanen * NatPacker * romana@p....... ***Game of gopher,
anyone? ***
Forever Knight has been *cancelled*!  For more info on how to save it,
check out http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:47:14 EWT
From:    molly <MSREED@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel on "Star Command"

I was watching a movie last called SYNAPSE and guesss who pops up.  NIGEL!
He has a somewhat large part in the movi.  INteresting plot to the story.

Molly Reeed

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:36:56 -0330
From:    Paula Hurley <phurley@b.......>
Subject: Father Figure Lullaby??

I was looking at the running order of the FK CD the other day, and this
selection kinda stood out at me,
 12.  FATHER FIGURE - Nick's Lullaby to Lisa

Does anyone remember where this lullaby was to in the episode?? I only
saw it a few months ago on NTV, and I have absolutly no recollection of
this being in the episode. Now I would go back and watch it myself, but
I'm supposed to be studying for midterms, so maybe somebody will be able
to tell me where it was. Thanks.

Paula

Dark Knightie/
Valentine/
Nick&NatPacker/
And likes LaCroix(but I'm not a Cousin, I swear)

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 07:12:34 -0800
From:    Preta <preta@e.......>
Subject: Re: Words that rhyme with angst

How are you pronouncing the word?  A as in cat?  Or a as in aahh?  If the
former, try "Manx" as in the cat.



>Jamie the Cinnamon Natpacker wrote:
>
>>NOTHING RHYMES WITH ANGST.  NOTHING.
>
>You're right.
>
>But read my poem on FKFIC before we close the book on "angst". ;)  Those not
>on FKFIC email me and I'll send a copy of my vampire limmerick.
>
>Wicked Cousin Tippi

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 14:00:57 -0330
From:    Paula Hurley <phurley@b.......>
Subject: Re: Next Year's Geminis

Okay I know I'm supposed to be studying, but I hate it so much, that I am
actually replying to messages left and right, somebody help before I
fail everything!!! :-) Anyways onto more obviously important things, next
year's Gemini's, these are the episodes I think the FK cast and crew
should be nominated for.

Ger for best actor in "The Games Vampires Play" and "Sons Of Belial" and
"Fever"

Nigel for best supporting actor in "Fever" and "Night In Question" and "Sons
Of Belial"

Catherine for best actress or best supporting actress in "Dead Of Night" and
"Fallen Idol" and "Fever"

Fred for best music in "Fever" and "Avenging Angel"

Ger for best direction in "Fallen Idol"

Alan Simmonds for best direction in "Fever"

If you're wondering why I didn't put Ben or Lisa in for anything, it's
because I'm not big fans of either of their characters, sorry Vaqueras,
and Perkalators.

Paula

Dark Knightie/
Valentine/
Nick&NatPacker/
And likes LaCroix(but I'm not a Cousin, I swear)

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:50:51 -0500
From:    Katja Stokley <cstokley@c.......>
Subject: Cross scene?

The scene in the opening credits with a hand reaching out towards a huge
cross and bursting into flame - which episode is that from?

Thanks, Katja

                  Katja Stokley    -*-    cstokley@g.......
            -*- Enter any 12 digit prime number to continue -*-

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:56:00 -0500
From:    Cal Montgomery <calm@a.......>
Subject: Re: Anybody doing Nightcrawler Tape?

On Fri, 1 Mar 1996, Janette Z wrote:

> >Quite some time ago I remember someone asking who would be interested in
> >having him (I think it was a him) make up Nightcrawler audio tapes.
>
>    Actually, I have!  I have, so far, 2 tapes filled with nothing but Uncle's
> radio shows.

Are you willing/able to make copies?

Cal
calm@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:04:49 -0500
From:    Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: Cross scene?

Hand reaching towards flame... *just saw it*  and now I'm not sure -- I
think it's 1st season, the one with Joan of Arc.  I can't for the life of
me think of the title right now, but it's just before "Last Act."

Kim B.

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:56:29 PST
From:    Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: Target: USA <long>

On Tue, 5 Mar 1996 03:12:47 -0500 "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
writes:
>> Which means, we need a plan of attack designed to reflect our current
>> situation. That being: USA <insert adjective of choice here> owns two and
>> a half seasons of FK. And like Fred said, if USA only runs it on SciFi,
>> the show has all too good of a chance of falling into complete obscurity.


Not necessarily so.  While not all cable systems, maybe not even most, have
Sci-Fi Channel, a lot of them *do*.  Also, most of the stuff run on that
channel has been rerun many, MANY times, and even MORE times during the
channel's special "marathon days."   Titles that immediately spring to mind are
UFO, QUANTUM LEAP, THE PRISONER and BATTLESTAR GALACTICA/GALACTICA 1980.  Also,
starting with its two marathon days of KOLCHAK:  THE NIGHT STALKER, Sci-Fi
has been rerunning KOLCHAK off and on Friday evenings for the past three months,
with deep and buried rumours of SOME sort of revival of that show planned, at
least as a crossover with X-FILES (since creator Chris Carter is a big KOLCHAK
fan).

It's not a perfect solution by any means,  But since USA runs godawful wrestling
and 10-15-year-old game show eps and Sci-Fi keeps running the aforementioned
shows to its heart's content, we may have to take what we can get.  ;D


glw

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:33:12 -0500
From:    Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Cross/flame scene

Oh yeah, I think that seen with the hand reaching into the flame is from
"For I Have Sinned."  Wouldn't swear by it, obviously, being a Cousin.

Kim B.

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:56:45 EST
From:    "Caroline E. Yeager" <YEAGER_CAROLINE@m.......>
Subject: Re: dream cast

I have to say this - it won't be FK without the original cast. These
dream casts are fun to play around with, but none of them can match
GWD, NB, etc. Re-interpret maybe, but replace? Not IMHO.

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Date:    Mon, 4 Mar 1996 14:02:33 EST
From:    TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......>
Subject: Vachon loop

For the life of me I can't seem to remember who was putting together
the Vachon loop. Could that person please contact me.

Thank you

Dona Torrey

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:40:48 -0500
From:    Kimberly Bjarkman <flowper@o.......>
Subject: Re: Nigel on "Star Command"

What channel was SYNAPSE on, pray tell?  (So we can keep a look-out for
repeats.)

Kim B.

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:55:14 +0000
From:    Andrea Baroco <wcbaroco@b.......>
Subject: Re: Filk challange

Ack!  Ack!  What horrors!  It's country boys with fangs.  Shudder.
Actually, they could use that ifLacroix ever decided to go country at the
Raven, as suggested earlier.  What a thought.  Just thought I'd share
     ANdrea B:>

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 20:20:36 GMT
From:    Misty Hamman <Misty_Hamman@s.......>
Subject: FK Fic, etc

OK, this is my second try at this so please be patient.  I am new Knightie in
the technical sense, but a fan Forever.  I have read several posts discussing
this amazing FKfic and fanfic but I have no idea how to locate this material.
 All the posts I have seen so far do not have private email addresses
listed(Probably b/c they've been doing this awhile!) so here is my universal
cry for help!!  I do not have web access, only email and since it is through
my company computer I am still trying to catch up from this weekend in
between processing orders!!  Any help in this matter would be greatly
appreciated.  All of you are so much fun--Thanks for everything!

Misty_Hamman@s.......

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:43:54 -0500
From:    Lynn McAlpine <chatelyn@n.......>
Subject: A *different* approach

>if USA only runs it on SciFi,
>the show has all too good of a chance of falling into complete obscurity.

Not if you live in the right city!:::ducking flying objects:::  But, hey,
don't you think the same never-say-die people on FORKNI-L who mounted
*practically overnight* a SOSFK campaign we can all be proud of are up to a
little cable persuasion? Call your cable companies *right now* and request
the Sci-Fi channel as part of their package! Call them again next month.
Get your friends to call them. By the time FK hits the Sci-Fi Channel you
may have it. IF YOU ASK FOR IT!! (You'll just have to swallow the bitter
pill that you are helping increase revenue for you-know-who.)

I'm moving to a new city later this year. A large city without the Sci-Fi
Channel. And I've already asked two friends to make that phone call for me.
And I'm gonna ask them again. and again. and again. And you can *bet* I'll
make it myself as soon as I get there. There's NO WAY I'm gonna miss those
first season FK episodes again!

And once I've exercised my right as a consumer, Kay K. will owe me
*another* thank you note I'll never get.

Wait, maybe we could MAKE A DEAL with her. We (listmembers) deliver
X-number of new markets for the Sci-Fi Channel, she gets us one FK movie!
Double that, two movies! How's that for incentive!?! Who wants to call Kay
and give her the good news?!?!?!

Lynn McAlpine
Chatelyne@a.......    chatelyn@n.......

Lynn McAlpine
<Chatelyne@a.......>   <chatelyn@n.......>

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:28:07 -0500
From:    Margie Hammet <Hooizthis@a.......>
Subject: Episode Guide - Second Season

Has anyone looked at the episode guide that's linked to
Jasmine's Forever Knight home page?. Is the list for the
second season in the order they were produced or the
order they originally aired?. I only discovered "Forever
Knight" in the middle of last summer, and I'm trying to
figure out the chronology of events. I do realize that with
"Forever Knight" that might be utterly impossible.

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Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:30:00 -0500
From:    Carla Pickering <carlap@e.......>
Subject: Frogs

*What?* is a FFFFROGIE???????  Even the faction list that I was sent didn't
mention one with that name---and one person with a frog phobia does not make
a faction.

Carla at Crowhawwk in Exeter, RI
RRR &CC w/KL

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