There are 36 messages totalling 1002 lines in this issue. Topics in this special issue: 1. USA Syndication Rights (3) 2. Best/worst eps 3. SPOILER: Last Night (3) 4. Going through withdrawal. Help! 5. Ratings 6. Cousin onna Road Trip! 7. Hello? Anyone out there? 8. Crane Questions 9. ADDING ADULT TO OPTIONS 10. "Be My Valentine" 11. CD in Friday 13th 12. USA Syndication Rights and Nielsen ratings 13. unique FK items for sale 14. "Last Knight" Being Treated Like Dirt (LONG) 15. Nick Knight disc in LA 16. Nig alert on Lifetime 17. opportunities (4) 18. Red and Gold, a stupid question 19. Final Knight 20. Giving Up-Never!! 21. Relationships 22. About PAF 23. Hello! 24. CD in Coven 25. Win? We were supposed to w 26. NB & CD on SciFi (was What network?) 27. FK novels 28. Why Cousins like LC 29. What Last knight info? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:11:18 -0800 From: Amy R. <r.......@w.......> Subject: Re: USA Syndication Rights > >And might this mean that we'll have to be grateful to USA...? > Could be. Ironic, aint it <g>? Just like Star Trek, way back when, > which failed in first run and made it big in syndication. Aaack! Visions of "FK: The Next Generation"! I see it now... in twenty years, (mortal)Nick and Nat's oldest son will be brought across by an evil vampire who quickly gets staked... in rage and grief, Nick pulls a (oops; could only say this name on fkspoilr) and guides his son as he re-initiates his quest... Golly, I hope I'm kidding. ***** Amy R. r.......@w....... (Knightie-in-training; N&Ner) "For ever panting and for ever young; All breathing human passions far above" -- Keats ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:30:32 +0200 From: Marina Bailey <tmar@o.......> Subject: Re: Best/worst eps Marg said she liked Trophy Girl and Outside the Lines and then wrote: Ma> Admittedly, this season produced one of my votes for Ma> worst episode in the show's history (Blind Faith), but can anything be Ma> worse than last season's Baby, Baby? Can anything be worse? How about "Crazy Love"? Yuk. I *love* "Baby Baby"! Didn't mind "Blind Faith" either. (Has anyone else noticed that there are 3 shows - maybe more - containing episodes with that title - QL, Highlander and FK. I also get the HL list, and it gets a tad confusing at times!) But anyway, I think that this is what is so great about this show - it caters to people of all tastes. This also got me thinking about something else... I wonder if the first episodes a person sees colour how they see the rest of FK? (I was going to make a remark about carouches, but I'm not sure if "Fever" is still covered by spoiler rules.) The first episode I saw was "Father's Day" - in which Uncle was (mostly) nice, so I have always liked Uncle. "Amateur Night" was the second, and I always thought Schanke was a good cop! "Baby Baby" was the fourth episode I saw, the first episode in which I saw Nick bite someone, and also the first episode I ever read list discussion and spoilers about (not to mention the love scene), so I suppose all that has coloured how I saw the episode, but I have watched it so much I can quote chunks of dialogue from memory! I have since seen the first season, the third up to SoB, and a lot of the second, but I still like Uncle, never changed my opinion of Schanke (good cop that he was, I miss him) and still like it when Nick bites people! - Marina. \\ "And tell me if you want to catch that feeling of redemption; // // That feeling of redemption don't do much for me." - Tanita Tikaram \\ \\=======Marina Bailey======tmar@f.......=======Dark Knightie======= // ... Blood IS thicker than water. ... You cannot stop the future. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:32:12 -0500 From: Susan Honig <Susankenn@a.......> Subject: Re: SPOILER: Last Night I think that the whole thing that Gary from Paragon is doing is to mislead us. Ger in his chat left the door open for movies - killing off the characters doesn't fit the bill. In fact I remember him saying that he does not want to leave it where they would have to do a Bobby in dallas shower scene to bring back the characters. I am sure everyone was told to be hush hush and that is what they are doing. Sue susankenn@a....... Knightie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:43:26 -0800 From: Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......> Subject: Re: Going through withdrawal. Help! Tippi Blevins wrote: > Hey all. Me again. Haven't gotten any FORKNI messages since 8 AM this Hope I'm not stepping on any list toes...I was hoping one of the list owners would say something on this. I've been e-mailing some folks privately. I'm on another couple of lists at PSU. The list owner there posted a note yesterday that the mail router is having some problems; it's causing delays on all the lists located there. -- Lisa Reeves @-->--->--- | ad483@d....... GDFN Help Staff | Mercenary for Chocolate Save Forever Knight! Site for details: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:48:09 -0500 From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......> Subject: Re: Ratings >That's THREE TIMES the rating TriStar said they needed to renew the >show. So if someone can track this down and confirm it, it might be >something else we can put in our letters to Sony. This might be me, but i think USA just doesn't like Forever Knight. I think they bought it just to cancle it. CP Flames welcome ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 14:51:04 -0800 From: "Lashoka BirthFire (Lax)" <lashoka@p.......> Subject: Cousin onna Road Trip! Hey y'all.... This Cousin has got her Spring Break trip all planned. There will be 2 major stops, one in LaFeyette, IN, at Purdue, and another in Harvery,Louisianna [New Orleans suburb]. I'll be in In on the 15-16th of March, and Harvey 17-22nd of MArch. IF anyone lives nearby and wants to say hi, lemme know..:> Later. Cousin Lashoka lashoka@p....... | Worner Box 0000 |(000)-000-0000 lashoka@o....... | Xxxxxxxx Xxxxxxx lashoka@g....... | Xxxxxxxx Xxxx, Xx 00000 http://pandora.st.hmc.edu/~lashoka | a_bittenbin@r....... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:51:31 -0500 From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......> Subject: Re: Hello? Anyone out there? >expect them to really explain anything! :) All we got was "Did you >really think you'd killed me? I'm much too old and powerful." You must >admit, as explanations go it leaves a great deal to be desired. They're That is the explanation! Nick didn't drive the stake in all the way and he didn't cheak to make sure lacroix was all the way dead. Lacroix was strong enough to pull the stake out and get blood. The older a Vampire is, the stronger he is. Lacroix is 1000+ years old... Cp ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:59:28 -0600 From: Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......> Subject: Re: Crane Questions >When is the deadline to send the cranes to the regional >coordinators? We *do* have some kind of deadline, don't >we? In the next few weeks, months, what? We never officially set a deadline. Let's do that, shall we? :) How about March 17, St Patrick's Day. >And for clarification, the Official Paper Size of the Forever >Knight Wishing Cranes Project <tm> is 3 inches (7 or 8 cm), >yes? Yes. > So what should I do with the 7 inch ones I already >made? Seems like such a waste to just throw them away. :( Send them in your letters to Sony, TriStar, et al. >Also, is anyone going to post the crane info on Prodigy? If We've posted to Prodigy, Compuserve, AOL and Genie. :) Lynn asked: >Now that I've finished folding my cranes (sincerely wishing for more >Forever Knight with each one) and am preparing to drop them in the mail, I >have to wonder if this project is still ongoing. Yes! It's still going. Send in those cranes! Check the website http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/fkcranes.html for info! Sorry to take so long getting back on this, but my mail has been dropping really late the last few days. I got some stuff dated 2/22 this morning! Diane E FK Wishing Crane Project Coordinator # D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... # # WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:09:38 -0800 From: Swordsister <catheboo@c.......> Subject: Re: USA Syndication Rights On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, LC Fenster wrote: > > I thought that seasons two and three were being offered at NATPE? > > As far as I know, NO FK rights were offered at this year's NATPE. If > anyone has heard differently, please feel free to contradict me. Hi, Laurie! I'm contradicting you. <g> When we were at NATPE, we were instructed to make sure, when asking for people to ask for FK, to ask for a *fourth* season of FK. How's *that* for a confusing sentence? <g> Okay, let's try again, just for kicks. Our understanding was that TriStar *was* offering previous seasons for reruns, and so we were afraid that if we just told the people we talked to to buy FK, they would just get the previous seasons. Not a bad thing, but not precisely the goal we had in mind. :) So in our rehearsed little lines, we made sure to say to ask for a fourth season of FK, so hopefully there wouldn't be any confusion. I never actually found out first-hand what was being sold, but this is my understanding from Our Fearless Leader, Diane. :) Catherine --------------------------------------------------------------- Catherine Boone catheboo@c....... "Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:25:25 EST From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......> Subject: ADDING ADULT TO OPTIONS Can someone remind me how to add "Adult" to my options on the FKFIC-L? Since I had to resubscribe I think I lost that option and I don't want to miss out on anything!!! Dotti R Knightie-4Ever ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:30:57 -0800 From: Amy R. <r.......@w.......> Subject: "Be My Valentine" Ok; that's it. I cannot take it anymore. I HAVE to see this episode! Is anyone out there willing to copy it for this pathetic third-season newbie? Please email me privately. ***** Amy R. r.......@w....... (Knightie-in-training; N&Ner) "For ever panting and for ever young; All breathing human passions far above" -- Keats ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:46:36 -0700 From: [Name removed by request] Subject: Re: CD in Friday 13th Maria wrote: >The episode that CD appears in is called "Double Exposure" according to >my episode synopses for the series. I don't think she was in "Coven of >Darkness". CD was described as a truly freaky malevolent witch (this is not an attack against Pagans!) who only appears for a few seconds or so. This doesn't describe "Double Exposure". So perhaps she was on more than one Fri13th ep? Canada's 10 actors... Anyway, i'll be taping, just to make sure. Everyone is welcome to throw appliances at me if she doesn't show. [Name removed by request] How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:56:10 -0600 From: Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......> Subject: Re: USA Syndication Rights and Nielsen ratings I'm combining this into two posts to save everybody space. Laurie, quoting, regarding USA and syndicators 'stripping' FK: >> I thought that seasons two and three were being offered at NATPE? > >As far as I know, NO FK rights were offered at this year's NATPE. If >anyone has heard differently, please feel free to contradict me. Sorry, but I was informed, by somebody (nameless for job security reasons, but reliable) who had access to the NATPE programming book, that TriStar listed seasons 2 & 3 as for sale. Whether they actually sold them is, of course, an entirely different story! :) Vicki, on FK pulling a six in the Nielsens: >> from, but according to someone associated with the show, FK got a 6 >> rating recently. > >How much faith do you have in this info? Not to be a wet blanket, but in *some* time slots, FK has always pulled a 6 rating! It's just that for every 6 it pulls in (quick, consult my NAPTE brochure!) say, Orlando, FL among women 18-34, it pulls a 1.2 in Somewhere, USA (because Orlando airs it at Sunday, midnight, and promotes it, and Somewhere airs it at 3:43am Monday-- when it doesn't pre-empt.) So FK can pull a 6 in LOCAL Neilsens, and still suck in the overall ratings. I suspect that's what your contact got hold of-- a good, local Nielsen rating. Sorry to disappoint you, but I think that's the most likely explanation. I'd be delighted to be proved wrong..... Diane E # D Echelbarger gryphon@e....... # # WWW HomePage: http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:57:40 -0700 From: [Name removed by request] Subject: Re: unique FK items for sale Please, one of us buy the Caddys, please? One of us fans? So when the show goes back into production, it'll still be available, ready to go. Hm? Tell me, can any of you say no to a stick face like this? <:) [Name removed by request] How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:01:06 EST From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......> Subject: Re: "Last Knight" Being Treated Like Dirt (LONG) To those cast/crew/production members who are on this list, I have a question that I want to post to the whole list coz everyone is getting real bummed out about this "Last Knight" episode. Do you have any idea why, knowing obviously how much fans care they would, on purpose, devise an episode which appears (and I admit it's just thru hearsay) capable of doing nothing more than hurting every FK fan out there. Why would everyone agree to do such a thing? It just doesn't really make much sense. It's different than with B7, I don't think there was any kind of save B7 drive out there, and definitely there was no money, time, effort, etc. expended as it was with this show. It appears to show that even though in the face of the fact that we really knew the show probably wouldn't survive, the bottom line is the bottom line after all and it is a business, but why do it with such a nastiness, such a "Well, not only are you NOT going to get your show back because you all are such pains in the ass, but we're gonna do our best to destroy your show and leave a nasty taste in your mouth!!" I know in the face of the real world this is really nothing more than a television show, but obviously it does mean a lot to a lot of people (myself included) who need an escape from the real world, and to have it treated so badly is a major slap in our faces. Everyone got into this knowing we could possibly lose, but hoping they would treat us with enough respect that if they did close out the show, they would do it with dignity and not the way it seems to be going. Then it is true, even to you people who called us into this war (and yes I do mean you Mr. Parriott) have just said to us "Oh well, too bad. You guys really just don't count." Well, you might destroy it on film, but there are so many talented people on this list who will not let the original idea of the show die and will continue to write great fiction and keep the characters alive the way they were first presented to us. No, I don't think we're crazy, after all, you sold us the show in the first play and made it different and special in order to gain a following. Now that it has one, you take it away and then not only take it away, you destroy it in front of us first. That's sort of like a drug pusher getting us addicted then taking away the drug. No one expects a show to last forever, but we do expect to be treated with some kind of dignity - not trashed on. Sorry this is so long, but I had to get it out. Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:24:58 -0700 From: [Name removed by request] Subject: Nick Knight disc in LA Just in case anyone in and around LA needs a copy and hasn't been able to find one - beginning today and continuing tomorrow is a laserdisc sale/promotional doohickey on the Paramount Studios lot. It's free, starts at 10 a.m. both days, there are free giveaways (Apollo 13 tote bags, Snow White books, Pocahantas & Lion King Clocks, Dances w/Wolves CD, etc), and some celebrities (Robert Wise tomorrow, Gena Rowlands and Clive Barker - WA! Didn't get to see him!! - today) plus discs marked way down. There were about 20 NKs for $9 and an equal number for $15, though i think there were more hidden away for periodic re-stockings (the prices are different 'cause the discs are from different inventories, quality is the same - just one set is hole-punched and the other not) i'd suggest getting there a couple of hours early unless you don't mind waiting in line all day. [Name removed by request] How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:34:11 -0700 From: [Name removed by request] Subject: Re: Nig alert on Lifetime Marg wrote: >I think you are thinking of "Degree of Guilt" He plays a lawyer in that >one. In "I Know My Son Is Alive" I think this is the one where he has >only a few lines and plays like a hitman? Right? Not really sure because >when this one aired before, it wasn't shown with closed captioning :( Except that i'm an ardent fan of Mr. B's and, if i haven't memorized his lines in every movie he's been in, i can at least visualize his scenes :) He wasn't a bad guy at all but someone who helps Pays' character out when she's released from jail - part of her defense team or someone who worked for the city or in public services or something. i didn't really *watch* the silly thing, for heaven's sake :) So was it on?? My TV guide said so but, just before i left for home i checked our dorm's Prevue channel (which scrolls upcoming programs) and didn't see it listed. Thousands of apologizes if i messed up anyone's day (or VCR) with false information!! [Name removed by request] How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:38:19 -0500 From: Stephanie Babbitt <stephanie.babbitt@g.......> Subject: Re: opportunities Janette Z. wrote: > Yes, but can you honestly say that you *liked* such episodes as Trophy >Girl, and Outside the Lines? (The 2 worst eps of history IMO) I'm a third-season newbie who just saw Trophy Girl for the first time last Thursday night/Friday morning/whatever, and I'm still in a swivet. I absolutely *loved* this episode! It was a wonderful dose of Vachon, which was helpful since I've been dying slowly of withdrawl. It was full of light-hearted interactions among the characters, which aren't present in many third-season eps. It was well populated with good guest acting. The Nick/LaCroix interaction during the flashback was incredible (here I am, an alleged grownup, and I was sitting with my eyes covered, peeking between my fingers). I was alternately laughing out loud and screeching out loud so much that my husband came downstairs to see if I was having a seizure or something. And I was actually jumping up and down on my chair at the ending. Just so you all know, I do *not* usually behave this way--I'm usually rather restrained, especially if I think anyone might be watching me. So count me among the third-season ignorants if you want, but to me this ep held lots of examples of what I really love about this show. I'm even going to make my husband watch it (under duress, if necessary). Sorry, Janette! Stephanie Babbitt Vaquera who may survive after all ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:01:40 -0500 From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......> Subject: Re: opportunities In a message dated 96-02-24 16:31:47 EST, you write: >On the other hand, I thought Human Factor and Games Vampires >Play (part of your "last 8...great" episodes) sucked mud major big time. If >I wasn't such an all-fire completist, I wouldn't waste tape on either of >them, even at 6 hour speed. And Strings would be a dumper, too, if it didn't >have the interesting subplot with Tracy and her father. Admittedly, this >season produced one of my votes for worst episode in the show's history >(Blind Faith), but can anything be worse than last season's Baby, Baby? > Small spoiler for Human Factor below: Actually Games Vampires play is my exception to the last 8 great episodes. I agree, it did suck. And I also agree that Human Factor sucked, because of what they did to my namesake. They turned Janette into a KNIGHTIE!!!!!!! (I'm not going to get started on that topic...) As for Baby, Baby vs Blind Faith, I'd have to say Blind Faith wins... easy. Outside The Lines, I still think sucked, every time I watch it I feel like gaging. And Trophy Girl had it's good scenes, Nick and the psycho in jail, but I thought that everything outside of those scenes was pathetic. Ravenette, Immortal Beloved CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod Richie Reservist, Janette92@a....... "We have waited centuries for this moment. The rivers will flow with the blood of those who oppose us." --Kane, suspected leader of the Brotherhood of Nod. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:08:55 -0500 From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......> Subject: Red and Gold, a stupid question This is such a *stupid* question, I don't even know why I'm bothering. But I am anyway. Why is it that sometimes Nick's eyes are red, sometimes gold. Same with all other vampires. Is there an explanation for it? (Sorry for the stupid question!!!) Ravenette, Immortal Beloved CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod Richie Reservist, Janette92@a....... "We have waited centuries for this moment. The rivers will flow with the blood of those who oppose us." --Kane, suspected leader of the Brotherhood of Nod ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:23:02 EST From: TORREY L HARRIS <Dona_Torrey@p.......> Subject: Final Knight I don't care who they *kill* off in the final ep. In my mind Forever Knight still lives on with all of the characters..Schanke...Janette ( not what we saw in HF), LaCroix, Nick and Nat from season 1 & 2, Screed....and Vachon. That is the wonderful thing about fandom...they all live and I can make them do what I think they should do. Long live Fan Fic!!!!!!! Dona Torrey <---yes I know i'm strange *Vaquera* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:39:51 -0500 From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......> Subject: Re: USA Syndication Rights >Might it also mean that syndies <won't> be airing FK reruns? I'm confused, I >guess (happens all the time...); I thought that seasons two and three were >being offered at NATPE? The show would get so much more exposure through >reruns on syndicated stations than on either USA or Sci-Fi Channel, so I hope And if so, does that mean that NOBODY will be showing the last 9 eps? ---- TJ Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine: News of the Science Fiction Universe http://www.cybervanguard.com Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:39:57 -0500 From: Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......> Subject: Re: opportunities >I wrote and Janette Z. responded: >>>I *have* to say that I *very* *much* *like* the third season on FK! >> Yes, but can you honestly say that you *liked* such episodes as Trophy >>Girl, Actually, I also just saw this on this week, and I DID like it. A lot. I actually found myself with a little bit of respect for Tracy, and I kind of ... well, I don't like her. She gets on my nerves. I think Trophy Girl was a good lead-in for her behavior in Human Factor. >>and Outside the Lines? Haven't seen it yet (thank goodness USA is good for >something) Haven't seen this one yet either. Hmmm ... I'm noticing a pattern here. We seem to have a large portion of people who joined the list AFTER things started looking bleak. I'm sure there's a psychological thing there... >>Let No Man Tear Asunder. OK, you win. Ugh. (Though I also agree about the ending scene. Sorcha and I have practically worn out the tape re-watching that.) >And, of course, Fever was my absolute favorite so far. So many great >scenes. So much was given to the actors to work with and they all did a >helava job with it! Too much Vachon, too little Nick, IMO, but I suppose it had to happen sometime. >So, I still say that I *love* season 3 and I would not be un-happy by a long >shot if season 4 continued in the same vein. Now, two weeks ago, i would have said the same thing. Then the one who brought me across sent me most of season 1 and the eps surrounding Be My Valentine and I UNDERSTAND why people say it went downhill. I MISS SCHANKE! (Sorry, had to get that off my chest.) I mean, I understand the reasoning, up to a point. The original thrust of the show was the "differentness" of Nick because he's a vampire, and this was focused against his relationship with Nat. By the third season, however, they had pretty much played that out. With the whole new audience they were hoping to get when it moved over to USA, they needed an excuse to have somebody ask all those questions that Tracy asks Vachon but Nat would have no reason to ask Nick because she's know him for three years already. Now, I am NOT condoning getting rid of the three that they did. And frankly, if they were going for sexy, getting rid of Deborah Duchene? And bringing in Blu Mankuma (Reese)? EXCUSE ME?!? Tell you what _I_ would have done. I would have replaced Cohen if somebody had to go and had some reason to bring in Tracy -- maybe as a trainee, if not the new captain, since that would be REALLY stretching -- and had her meet Vachon. Or kept Schanke and had him find out about Nick and had Tracy stay ignorant to keep the ignorance jokes. Sigh. ---- TJ Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine: News of the Science Fiction Universe http://www.cybervanguard.com Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:39:40 EST From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......> Subject: Giving Up-Never!! Recently, I posted a rather long tirade (sorry about the length but it just had to come out) about what seems to be the disgusting way they're planning to end FK. I do not wish to leave it on such a downer, I will fight till there's no fight left in me - if only because I dislike being treated like I'm not worth listening to and my feelings don't matter at all. But, I don't want the air here to get to sad, we will always have FK no matter what it does, and we will have each other on this list. And, I am really excited at the opportunity to meet a lot of you at Ger's play. So, they may take our show away, but what it created they can't take away which is this list, the friendships and the opportunity to use the talent that so many of you have shown here. Kewl. That's exciting! Now, as a true Knightie, although we don't want to start anything we have to always be on our guard and that nasty word WAR keeps popping up. Gotta watch our backs guys (and our fronts, and our sides, etc......) Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:44:02 -0800 From: Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......> Subject: Re: SPOILER: Last Night Folks, speculation or no, talk about the final episode of the season belongs on the spoiler list, not this one. Some of us aren't on the spoiler list any more precisely to avoid the drivel that's littering the lists now about these as yet unseen episodes. Even if you're replying to someone, make sure you post to the proper list, okay? Thanks. Cynthia, who hates being grumpy on list Cynthia Hoffman/choff@v....... "But WHY? I mean, were they punishing the characters for something? Or punishing the audience for paying attention?" "My son, you want me to fathom the thinking of television executives? I'm only a god." -- From "Miserable Depressing Endings, by Rache ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:12:49 -0500 From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......> Subject: Relationships OK, I am a little confused (big surprise!): What is the relationship between a "matser" and "fledgling?" Though that question doesn't really address what I want to know; basically I am wondering what "type" of relationship Nick and Nat would have if he brought her accross. Would it be like his and LC's? Very parental? Sort of protective? Could it be romantic? Or would it be too unequal a situation? I mean, Janette was older than Nick, but she didn't have any sort of authority (in an emotional sense) over him (not in the same way LC does); so I am just wondering, no matter the circumstances under which Nick brought Nat accross, wouldn't their relationship evolve into a father/daughter type thing? Just curious...and I need a break from SOS depression. Thanks, Alora <acc0924@i.......> The tired, frustrated, and curious Natpacker. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:24:38 EST From: Lynne Levine <llevine@m.......> Subject: About PAF I found the following in "Art & Understanding: The International Magazine of Literature and Art About AIDS", Dec/Jan 1996 issue, page 8: (part of an article "The Year in Review" by Glenn Gaylord) ..."Surely, the death of Elizabeth Glaser, although it happened in late 1994, sent shockwaves that carried into the new year. One of the founders of the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, Elizabeth attained national prominence by speaking so eloquently at the 1992 Democratic National Convention. A strong activist, Elizabeth brought much-needed attention to the subject of mother-to-child HIV transmission and child-specific issues. She bravely battled her own illness while suffering the loss of her daughter and caring for her HIV-infected son....Her guts, her drive, and her class set the tone for how we all should face 1995 and beyond." The above quote makes me feel even more proud of us all for raising over $8000 for PAF, and even more happy to be a part of the FK community. I'm an old-timer on this list and I sure plan to stick around even if FK is "cancelled"! Lynne Levine llevine@m....... Ravenette Classic and Immortal Beloved ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:59:57 -0500 From: Sue Thomas <TomasHouse@a.......> Subject: Hello! I am a newbie on the list. I intend to lurk. I need time to learn everyone's little "in jokes" and cliques. I just read my first days worth of mail and I am really out in left field but you all seem like a great bunch. BTW I started with FK with the Rick Springfield pilot. I beleive I have see every episode except 4 or 5 of them since it started it's run on CBS latenight. I'll be around. (Back into Lurk mode.) Sue T. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 22:28:10 -0500 From: Maria Vrzoc <vrzoc@s.......> Subject: Re: CD in Coven Could anyone confirm that CD is in this episode of Friday 13th? I only get one episode a week of this show and we're at the season one poison pipe one. The coven episode won't be until the end of season two (26 episodes to go) and I don't want to keep an eye out for the episode unless she's really there. (Sorry, lazy person taping 8 shows a week wants the occassional week off :-> ) M. Vrzoc (vrzoc@u.......) | Just a little off the top! | -- A. Boleyn ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:19:15 -0500 From: Apache <lf@c.......> Subject: Re: Win? We were supposed to w > At 02:45 PM 2/23/96 U, Celeste Hotaling-Lyons wrote: > > >//Closes eyes. Dreams of a nuclear mushroom cloud enveloping the peaceful, > >beautiful city of Toronto. Oh! There goes that thing that looks like the > >Jetson's apartment building--*crash, foomp!* Pretty!!!!// That's right... we've been angsting so much over a "Blake's 7" ending that we forgot the "Sledge Hammer" ending. But you CAN'T KILL vampires-- Anyone remember the old camp song, "The Cat Came Back"? Well.... -- The H-bomb fell just the other day the H-bomb fell in the same old-fashioned way Russia went, England went, and then the USA the whole damn world blew itself to hell today-- but the CAST came back-- the very next day the cast came back, they thought they all were goners, but the cast came back... they just couldn't stay awaaaaaaay. Apache ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:35:26 -0700 From: [Name removed by request] Subject: NB & CD on SciFi (was What network?) Oops, almost skipped over this post. Thanks, Lisa. The alerts were for the SciFi Channel here in the U.S. Sorry. [Name removed by request] How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:53:13 -0600 From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......> Subject: Re: FK novels At 01:58 AM 2/24/96 -0500, you wrote: > PS, who's bidding on the Caddy? Any hands? I'm busy trying not >to have my farm foreclosed on (just call me Apache Joad) and can't bid on >nuthin', but I shore am curious. Laura, Hi,are you ok? Its not like I can reach in my pockets and offer you money (I'm still trying to get my house taxes together) But..if there is anything I can do,offer an ear, whatever..let me know. Annmarie * Save FOREVER KNIGHT! E-mail me or visit the homepage * http://member.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html* ******************************************************** Gov't Thug: "We work in the Intelligence Community. * Skinner: "Remind me not to move there" * ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 23:54:55 -0500 From: Janette Z <Janette92@a.......> Subject: Re: opportunities Bonnie wrote: >I *love* this episode! Actually I have not seen it all the way through yet. > USA had it as a repeat last night and I just could not stay awake for it so >I recorded it and watched as much as I could of it today at lunch. I am >*dying* to get home to finish it! I even jammed home during my 15 minute >break to make sure I hadn't left it in the VCR to get recorded over and, >since I was there, I re-watched (about 12 times) the scene where Vachon >shows up in the Caddy and says to Nick, "Cars with fins are kinda sexy. >Don't ya think? More predatory." This is *classic*. Now, the >resolution/ending may suck, I don't know, but I must rank the aforementioned >scene as one of my all time favorites -- right up there with the one where >Nat chucks handfuls of popcorn at Nick. > >>and Outside the Lines? Haven't seen it yet (thank goodness USA is good for >something) > >>Let No Man Tear Asunder. Only saw this once, and I don't remember it very >well. Is this the ep with Nat getting knee surgery? 'Cause if it is, then >I loved the end scene with Nick and Nat where he makes some smarmy >compliment about her knee and then leans in to kiss her but she ducks out of >the way, or the scene where Nat is all fidgety on the table before her >operation, or when Tracy is talking to Vachon about the illegal donations -- >"Do you want me to draw you a picture?". > >And, of course, Fever was my absolute favorite so far. So many great >scenes. So much was given to the actors to work with and they all did a >helava job with it! > >So, I still say that I *love* season 3 and I would not be un-happy by a long >shot if season 4 continued in the same vein. > Well, I'm glad that you love the third season... but have you seen the first 2 seasons???!!!! I'm sorry if you, or anyone else, disagrees with me but most of the beginning episodes of this season made me want to cry!!! I spent hours after seeing episodes like Trophy Girl, Outside the Lines, Let No Man Tear Asunder, and other Silk-Stalkings type episodes watching the 1st 2 seasons trying to make myself feel better!!! But I do agree Fever was an awesome episode, and one of the best of any season. However I still think that the first 2 seasons were a hell of a lot better! And not just because of Janette. Not even Fever could top episodes like Be My Valentine, Stranger Than Fiction, or Crazy Love. (IMHO, anyway) Ravenette, Immortal Beloved ^v^ CO-CFW for Evil MacLeod Richie Reservist, Janette92@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 00:17:06 -0500 From: Donna <hozdmb@r.......> Subject: Re: SPOILER: Last Night At 09:04 PM 2/23/96 -0500, you wrote: >On Fri, 23 Feb 1996, Lynn McAlpine wrote: > The sooner they can shut us up, the >better in their mind. So they get JP to creatively H-bomb the show so it >can never NEVER be resurrected. > Hope, lives eternal. Remember, it could all have been a dream. Someone was in a coma, etc. Any show can be resurrected if they want to do it and the actors are available. Back to lurking..... Donna Burns hozdmb@r....... Diehard, FK, Highlander, ST, B5, X-Files, L&C, Sime/Gen, Pros, DS ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:29:59 -0500 From: Cuzin Lu <cuzinlu@s.......> Subject: Re: Why Cousins like LC At 07:31 AM 2/24/96 -0800,Laurie CF wrote: >Just for example, I cannot stand self-deception, of which Nick is the >master. If nothing else, LC is totally, brutally honest with himself. >You know where you stand with LC. With Nick, it's always a question. I have to wholeheartedly agree with this statement. It is one of the things that attracted me to cousinship in the first place. Nick is always in denial... he lives there... Uncle on the other hand is brutally honest - and that I prefer. Uncle is very down to earth and accepts what he is and does not try to make himself into that which he is not. Nick is constantly trying to become what he is not - either mortal or moral. Vampires do not share the same morals as mortals do, they do not share the same rules, food, etc. There are certain vampire rules that they do follow - to a point, but then again what mortal follows all the rules?? I'll take cousinship any day of the year and twice on Sundays. Eagerly awaiting participation in War#7. This time - Uncle is MINE!!!! <vvvbeg> Cousin Lu - The Multi Studded One Cousin@Heart - Immortal Beloved Vamp@Nyte - Valentine cuzinlu@s....... |LuDia@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Feb 1996 00:46:13 -0500 From: A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......> Subject: What Last knight info? $#@&^mailer. It's down for two days, comes back up and I missed( how I'm not sure) the important "rumor" concerning "Last Knight" will someone PLEASE let me know what's going on. And if Laurie Fenster or Nigel Bennett is listening/reading please contact me about my newsletter before I burst a blood vessel and make a bloody mess over my keyboard . Thank you, I think I'll take some valium now. A Mc " plays well with self" Iremi@a....... ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 24 Feb 1996 to 25 Feb 1996 - Special issue *******************************************************************
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