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Digest - 21 Feb 1996

Wed, 21 Feb 1996

There are 41 messages totalling 946 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Schanke's fantasy
  2. Last day of filming (2)
  3. Interview with NB -- opinions needed (2)
  4. Confused about Wars/Etc (2)
  5. How Many Will Stay On?
  6. A REASON to stay on the list (2)
  7. Paper cranes
  8. NB's B'day?  King Cakes sent
  9. The Wars That Have Happened (3)
 10. Hello All!
 11. GWD's Scots accent / Audiotapes
 12. FORKNI-L Digest - 21 Feb 1996 - Special issue
 13. Nick and Mortality
 14. Top Ten Lists Forever!
 15. Top Ten Reasons to Join the Fic-Wars (2)
 16. Cousin unity ;) (2)
 17. Who wins the Wars.... (2)
 18. Wars and such (2)
 19. Cousin unity ;) (fwd)
 20. GWD in  Reunion
 21. FK novels
 22. Fallen Idol in DC/Legal Question
 23. NB's B'day?
 24. Nat as a Vamp
 25. Not leaving etc....
 26. Possible Long-Term Outcome
 27. fanfic problem
 28. FK on USA
 29. Top Tens and Knighties
 30. Merc Or Cousin?
 31. Wars, organization, and cross affliations

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:59:10 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Schanke's fantasy

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Elizabeth Ann Lewis wrote:

> Dance By the Light of the Moon--Schanke says that his fantasy is a women
> dressed in a schoolgirl's plaid skirt.  Anyone who wants to debate the
> Freudian connotations is welcome.  :)

I spaced that bit in Dance.  Do think it is a little wierd, though.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:41:43 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Last day of filming

Technically, this is the last day of filming for the third season (they may
film pick-ups and a few last thing tomorrow).

Let's think good thoughts and send best wishes their way.

And remember, we wouldn't have seen anything after "Human Factor" if USA and
TriStar had originally had their way.

Regards
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Faithful Ravenette, because somebody STILL has to.
Save Forever Knight!  More info at the web page at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:21:28 -0500
From:    Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: Interview with NB -- opinions needed

>Will you be posting text copy too?  I do not have audio access. Poo.

Yes.  No problem.

----  TJ

 Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine:  News of the Science Fiction Universe

                     http://www.cybervanguard.com
Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:15:36 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Confused about Wars/Etc

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Tippi Blevins wrote:

> Okay, I admit it.  I can't go on living this horrible lie! I... I really
> haven't the faintest idea what a War is.  Except that it seems to involve cow
> suits and chocolate.  I joined the list at the end of the last war I think.

This killed me.  I actually laughed out loud in the computer cluster,
which I normally only do at home.  These visions of Nat with her
chocolate smeared body paint and Vachon with his cow suits... :-) :-)

Actually, wars aren't nearly so sexual (unless you get locked in a wine
celler with LC, huh Sandra?)

This has probably been answered, but, briefly, wars are fictional round
robin things where we each play ourselves (perhaps slightly idealized
versions of ourselves, but _definitely_ ourselves).  Then we cause
trouble for other factions (even the Knighties cause trouble, and the
Nat-packers were the _start_ of the last war).

It is a duel, lunge, defend, counter... etc. etc.  all really in good
fun.  You shouldn't take anything _too_ seriously.  I think it was Susan
Garrett who said "In a War, an attack is the most sincere gesture of
affection" or something like that.

However, there is also a LOT of organization that goes on behind the
scenes in e-mail so that the posts won't contradict each other.  You need
to work within a framework of sorts.  The framework is extremely loose,
but it does exist and needs to be adhered to.  The best fun is trying to
sort out posts that were all posted within a few minutes of each other.
Despite apparent contradictions, we can work these things out.

It is a lot of work, but great fun.  I will probably have to skip the
next war due to real time constraints and will definitely miss it.

>  Does the war take place on the FKFIC list?  Will martial arts come in handy?
>  How about marital arts?  Inquiring minds and all that jazz.

If you know martial arts in real life, you can use them in the War, but
you shouldn't really make yourself a black belt if you've never had a
course in it.  You could, arguably, boost yourself from being a brown or
red belt to a black belt, though.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:28:22 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, erp and Burp wrote:

> Chana wrote:
>
> > Do the cousins usually win the "wars"?
>
> Yes. :)

Ack.  Smiley is right :-)
No, they don't.  The only reason LC got the Raven back in the last war
was because we always clean up after ourselves like the Cat in the Hat.
The FK universe has to be left in the same condition that we found it in
in the start of the War.  So, e.g.  Tracy can't find out that Nick is a
vampire in the War, or if she did, she would somehow have to forget that
information by the end of the War.

Also, as I recall, Cerk got pretty badly damaged by the Mercs.  I'm not
really sure who won the last War.  It is n't a matter of winning or
losing;  it all degenerates into a party somewhere.  Once it was in New
York City; this time at the Raven.

--
Vicki - vmerrima@i.......
Nick    "What are you doing here?"
LaCroix "Making your life a living hell, as usual"

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:39:33 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Susan Schaefer wrote:
    Re:  FK novels

> Sorry, they wont be out for a LONG time, if ever.  A deal/plan last year to
> put them out got botched up by someone (I forget who), and killed any
> current chances.

It really doesn't matter.  there is a ton of fanfic being written, and
some of it, like Susan Garrett's work, is as good as anything being
written professional, so what difference does it make?

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:48:02 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Paper cranes

On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Pat Witham wrote:

> paper cranes to SONY, but I'm under the impression
> the cranes are primarily associated these days in Japan
> with Hiroshima and the atom bomb. It seems to me that

Hmmm.  Viper, you had better check this out with your parents.  We
definitely don't want to make that association.  Also, anyone else who is
either Japanese or Japanese-American who could check on this.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:52:15 -0600
From:    Kayla Clark <katygale@i.......>
Subject: NB's B'day?  King Cakes sent

I've gone to nomail to catch up with over 5000k of messages, so please e-me
privately.

Does anyone know NB's birthday (including year)?  A friend is interested in
astrology and fell for Nigel at CCCX.  I've been feeding her need for info
about FK and NB, but have run into a block about his birthday.  The info
isn't in the FAQ and I e-mailed the prez of the NBFC (of which I'm a member)
a month ago and haven't heard back.

Also, the King Cakes went out Monday to James Parriott (the Toronto
address), Ms. Onoyama in NY and one to my local Programming Director.

I delivered the local one myself so that I could meet the Director (and she
meet me so that she would know I wasn't some lunatic who kept bugging her).
She was very nice - asked what I would do in reference to their station if
Columbia cancelled the show.  I told her I'd still watch the other shows
they had (I listed all the shows I *regularly* watch in a letter to her).  I
think she was relieved that I wasn't going to bomb the building or some
other such foolishness.  She told me that her Columbia rep was still saying
that they were going ahead with another season (guess that person is *way*
outta' the loop).  I wrote a summary of what had happened with the show so
far and she was impressed that I knew so much.  I don't think *she* knew
what had been going on!  E-me if you'd like the text of the letter (please
put "SYNDIE LTR" in the subject).

I'll let y'all know if/when I hear from JP or Sony.  They are getting some
YUMMY food!!  The smell in that bakery . . . well, Gambino's is the best and
they now have an 800 number.

ttfn,
Cousin Kayla

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:57:37 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: The Wars That Have Happened

On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Gaylin J. Walli wrote:

>    FKWARS V: Chess
>    FKWARS VI: And This Time, It's Personal. [in progress, title unofficial]

I observed War III; had a bit to do with War IV and participated in War
V.  How did War V get the name Chess?  It must have been from some section
I wasn't aware of.  However, I definitely vote that FKWAR VI is in
progress, and like the title "This time, It's Personal".  It is a War we
may not win, but is the most important one of the bunch.

It seems to me that the Wars get bigger and bigger each time, and harder
to organize.  The next War is going to have to have some bigger
constraints with leaders, I think, to prevent it degenerating into total
chaos and ill-will from contradictory posts.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:40:19 -0800
From:    Elizabeth Lawrence <luckyliz@c.......>
Subject: Re: Hello All!

Hi there!

(Wait, doesn't this mean I have to sleep with you now? ;-)  Oh, well,
I'm friendly.)

Didn't I just see you signoff of EQUEST-L? :-)

Welcome to ~vi
(Whoops, sorry.  Darn thing's still not set to vi.)

Welcome to the Madhouse.

Liz the Lucky
Mercenary in the Making
luckyliz@c.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:09:53 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: GWD's Scots accent / Audiotapes

TJ wrote:
>It's "Amateur Night," a 1st season ep I just watched last week.

Amateur Night is a 2nd season episode.  Also, I think someone mentioned
the flashback took place in the 1920's or 30's?  I seem to recall that
during the original discussion of this episode, someone spotted a car
in an alley during the flashback that would have put the flashback in
the 1960's.  Anyone else remember this?

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:19:16 +0200
From:    Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 21 Feb 1996 - Special issue

hello everyone.
just got the elusive micheal praed movie as a present to myself, thought
I deserved it, after all it was only two dollars at best buy, and it was new!
also noticed they where puting rengade on pro tape, so it's about time
that they put out nick
I will stay on this list as long as I have acess to a computer. right now
I an only get it while I'm in collage, as I'm too broke to aford my own.
I still have over a year, so perhaps I'll be on this forever!!!!!!
also, I've rented a room at the revelcon hotel, if anyone needs
roomates, email me! I'm willing to share, if you don't mind sharing with
a vanqua and a cousin that is convinced most of the time that she's servlan.

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:21:00 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Nick and Mortality

Marcia writes:
>In "Crazy Love" she said to Nick, "Those are needs you don't have any
>more, right?"...And he doesn't answer, in fact, he runs off to Janette
>as soon as he can!

Now I saw that in a different light.  To me, it seemed that Nick wanted
to open up to Nat about his "reawakened needs" and that Nat just didn't
want to listen to him.  Nick has been trying to do what is unnatural in
most FK vampires--stay away from human blood and feeding on humans.  Is
it any wonder that that is going to be hard for him to do sometimes?  As
it was, he went to Janette and some *vampire* blood rather than endanger
some hapless human.  Nick had already been to see Janette once before
this scene because he was "out of control".  When he went to Janette a
second time after this scene, he wasn't as out of control as before.  If
Nat had been willing to listen and try to understand what Nick was feeling,
perhaps he wouldn't have gone back to Janette again at all.

But Nat doesn't want to deal with the vampire Nick.  She only wants to
deal with the human Nick.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:41:39 -0700
From:    Isis <isis@m.......>
Subject: Re: Top Ten Lists Forever!

>And the number one reason to be a Cousin...
>
>1.  Because if you don't, Uncle will get you.  Now, you don't want that to
>happen, do you?...
>
>Cousin "Susan" Phoenix

Uncle will get me?  And this is a bad thing?  <VBEG>

Jaime



**************************************************
 Isis@m.......     Natpacker/Optimist's Club/X-phile
 When a man says he'll call you, and then he doesn't, he didn't
 lose your number, he didn't forget, and he didn't die.  He just
 didn't want to call you.               -Rita Rudner
**************************************************

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:39:22 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons to Join the Fic-Wars

Laurie CF writes:
>But from your *enthusiasm*, obviously, his body is another matter
>entirely??? <vbg>

Hey, under the right circumstances, I could even go for Vachon! ;)
I've made no secret that I find vampires sexually attractive.

But none of the others can hold a candle to Nick. :)

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:47:52 -0700
From:    Isis <isis@m.......>
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons to Join the Fic-Wars

>It just occurred to me... while we've been talking up the reasons to join
>one faction or another, but no one has told the new guys the best reasons
>to be in the Wars!

Okay, okay, I'm sold.  How do I get in on this fit of insanity
affectionately called a War?

Jaime



**************************************************
 Isis@m.......     Natpacker/Optimist's Club/X-phile
 When a man says he'll call you, and then he doesn't, he didn't
 lose your number, he didn't forget, and he didn't die.  He just
 didn't want to call you.               -Rita Rudner
**************************************************

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:56:32 -0800
From:    LG Soward <lgs@i.......>
Subject: Re: The Wars That Have Happened

At 12:57 PM 2/21/96 -0500, vicki jean merriman wrote:
>V.  How did War V get the name Chess?  It must have been from some section

Chess was the title of the open salvo of the war postings.

Lanag
going one step back to unaffliation

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:03:52 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin unity ;)

> I've actually been wondering... *are* there more Cousins than anything
> else?  My AOL group (waving to the Fang Gang) is frighteningly overloaded
> with Cousins, but I thought this was just an anomoly.  Am I wrong?  Are

I think in past surveys taken on the list, there are still rather more
Knighties than anything else.  The Cousins are just very much on the vocal/
active side :-)  We've got ~900 people on this list, of whom-- what?--
maybe 50 post with any regularity and only 100 ever post at all.  The
other 800, however, are overwhelmingly Knighties (if past counts mean
anything).

Dianne
(I made my faction part of my *name*... beat _that_, Cousins! :-)))))))

Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......>
The Mad SOS-FK Digester -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
KoQTV -*- FoFoD -*- FKLPL -*-  Crane-folder-in-training...
(not planning on going anywhere, regardless... )

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:20:22 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Who wins the Wars....

Knighties and Die Hards won War 3 (I think.  That was the War where LC
had funded third season and tried to make it *his* show, wasn't it?  But
all he got out of it was *one* episode. :) )

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:53:43 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: Who wins the Wars....

Diane E. (She of 1 "N"), quoting [Name removed by request], quoting Chana:

> >> Do the cousins usually win the "wars"?
> >Yes.
> Um..... [Name removed by request].... were you in the same Wars I was in?

No kidding!  What, you mean somebody "*won*"???

Well, heck!  Coulda fooled me! :-)

> And I'm a reasonably unbiased observer, y'know. :)

Oh *Puh-leeeeeeze*!!!

Dianne
(can you tell I finished the last offering of chocolate already, Diane? :-)

Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......>
The Mad SOS-FK Digester -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
KoQTV -*- FoFoD -*- FKLPL -*-  Crane-folder-in-training...
(not planning on going anywhere, regardless... )

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:31:50 -0600
From:    Fire And Life Incarnate <NSHEA4371@a.......>
Subject: Re: Interview with NB -- opinions needed

Date sent:  21-FEB-1996 13:28:20

>>Will you be posting text copy too?  I do not have audio access. Poo.
>
>Yes.  No problem.

Great!  Text copy is the only way I could get access.  Count me in!
(Look, Ma.  Only two lines!)  ;-)

Dark Phoenix
Feel the Power!
NSHEA4371@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:27:22 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin unity ;)

A while back someone did a private survey (people mailed her offlist)
of how many of each faction there were.  Seems to me Knighties came in
first, followed closely by Cousins.  Maybe it seems like there are more
Cousins because they're more vocal? :)

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:55:52 EST
From:    TORREY L HARRIS <SSZK27A@p.......>
Subject: Wars and such


Hello fellow list folks,

  After reading last night posts I thought I should make it clear that
War #7 has not been planed. Yes some of us have been playing around
throwing War 5 references around, but I for one am still busy with
War6.

  So please excuse all of the per-war posturing lets just say it is a
way to blow off steam and have some fun. So...that said...now is the
time for all of you who are interested to go look up the old wars and
read them...get your FAQ and see if you want to get involved in the fun
when it does happen.

 Have no fear...when war comes you will know <EG>.

Torrey

*Vaquera*

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:05:06 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Confused about Wars/Etc

Vicki writes:
>Actually, wars aren't nearly so sexual (unless you get locked in a wine
>cellar with LC, huh Sandra?)

And considering I was still mortal when Nick rescued me, obviously
things didn't go that far (just wanted to clarify things a bit for
the newbies).  Neither of us got totally naked either (the strip poker
didn't play out that way).

And I'll be on these lists for either as long as they're around or
I lose access.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 15:07:45 -0500
From:    Mary Dutterer <Vulkurt@a.......>
Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list

In a message dated 96-02-20 13:01:49 EST, you write:

>Sorcha and I would like to volunteer to start up a committee to select one
>script per week to "air" as that week's story.  We then have new material
>-- the SAME material -- to discuss.


That sounds like a good idea.  I've got a couple of old scripts.  I know if I
do, many more do as well.

Vulkurt@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:50:47 -0800
From:    [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: Cousin unity ;) (fwd)

Lizzieboo, Die-Hard in denial wrote -

>I've actually been wondering... *are* there more Cousins than anything
>else? <snip> Are
>there (gulp) more Cousins than anything else?  What's a poor

Yes. We're like roaches! Ants! Bunnies! You cannot stop us, you cannot
neuter/spay us! We will multiplyyyyyyyyyyyy.

About a half a year ago, it didn't seem so. One of us did a poll of how many
of each faction were on-list. i think there were like 35 Knighties who
answered and 33.5 Cousins (some of us <ahem, Lizzoo> couldn't decide on just
one faction).

What did LC/Nigel do to suddenly recruit so many more? :)

>Knightie/Natpacker etc. (see sig for rest, and no, [Name removed by request], I am *not* a
>DieHard even if I do like Tracy better after this last episode!) to do,

Um hm. Whoa. Is that bark on your nose? Watch it! You almost staked that
well-dressed, dapper cricket there, with your nose. Do you hear accordian
music? Is that marinara sauce i smell? Did i just pay 35 bucks for the
privilege to stand in line for 10 hours to get on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride?

[Name removed by request]
How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 20:13:17 GMT
From:    Bea Quindlen <ocaoin@u.......>
Subject: GWD in  Reunion

According to their schedule Reunion with Geraint Wyn Davies will
 air on the Sci-Fi channel on Friday, March 8 at 1PM.

Bea       Ocaoin@u.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:30:37 -0900
From:    Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK novels

Heather,
Your description applies to most men--so what's new?
<;p>
Barbara

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:41:07 -0900
From:    Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fallen Idol in DC/Legal Question

Once mail is delivered to its legal address--i.e. the address on the
envelope, the Post Office is out of the loop--this means that federal
laws about misdirecting or stealing mail are not in force.  What Tristar
wants to do with its mail once it has taken deliver is personal business.
Just suppose, not that I am suggesting that anyone do anything--but what
if some kind soul concerned about those who sent mail to Tristar--those
not of the family--other businesses etc. received letters containing
their original mail, with a letter telling them that Tristar did not
value them enough to be bothered.  Just a wicked thought.
Barbara

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:49:21 -0600
From:    Kayla Clark <katygale@i.......>
Subject: NB's B'day?

Thank you to all who responded - and so quickly, too!!  Every good Cousin
should know that Nigel Bennett's birthday is 11/19/49, and he was born in
Wolverhampton, England.

Thanks again!
"Cousin" Kayla  E-me at katygale@i......., katygale@a.......
(To make sure I catch your message out of the hundreds
of list posts, please put PERS in the Subject)
                DFWI: Head Flag Waver for Duncan's Backside
Save Our Shows Contact
For "Forever Knight," see
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
For "American Gothic," see the Trinity Guardian at http://www.best.com/~owls

"We should never dispair, our Situation before has been
unpromising and has changed for the better, so I trust
it will again.  If new difficulties arise, we must only
put forth New Exertions and proportion our Efforts to the
exigency of the times."
General George Washington, letter to Major General Philip Schuyler,
July 15, 1777

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:36:08 -0800
From:    Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......>
Subject: Re: The Wars That Have Happened

At 9:57 AM 2/21/96, vicki jean merriman wrote:
>On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Gaylin J. Walli wrote:
>
>>    FKWARS V: Chess
>>    FKWARS VI: And This Time, It's Personal. [in progress, title unofficial]
>
>I observed War III; had a bit to do with War IV and participated in War
>V.  How did War V get the name Chess?  It must have been from some section
>I wasn't aware of.

The NatPackers took the music from the musical Chess as their theme
(predominatly Florence's song, "Nobody's Side")  Way cool musical, BTW,
even if I am the only person in the world who prefers the Broadway
recording to the London one!

Elizabeth~~~~~~~Mercenary ;)
elewis@u.......***Lizbetann@a.......
Ravenette of the New Order--Knightie/NatPacker/N&N Packer with Cousinly
Sympathies and faint leanings towards Vanqura-ism
"Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be
Listowner, Middle Ages Life

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:00:53 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Nat as a Vamp

On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Bonnie Pardoe wrote:

> was drunk on the new found powers.  Nick could have tried to lead him, but
> he was just too guilty about having brought Richard over in the first place

Nick really dropped the ball on this one.  He should never have left
Richard alone.  A new vampire clearly needs care and feeding.

> Nat would definately rebel if LaCroix were to bring her across.  She'd be
> pissed and may even try to take it out on him and end up getting
> herself staked.

No, LaCroix wouldn't mind her being pissed.  He would anticipate it and
even find it amusing.  Rather like a young kitten that tries to fight and
scratch you.  You know  the kitten is no threat.  Also, Lacroix would
live up to his responsibilities as a father.  He would control the young
vampire, and while, unlike Nick, he probably wouldn't dissuade the vampire
from killing mortals, he would definitely make sure that it was done
carefully and in such a way that the vampire community was protected.

> Vachon is definately the right choice to bring Nat across.  He's there for a
> bit of friendly advice, but all in all he lets you be.  Besides, she's

This is precisely what a newbie vamp doesn't need.  She needs someone who
will protect/teach and CONTROL the newfound power lust in the young one.
Once the new vamp can control herself is soon enough to let her be, but
unfortunately, LaCroix has a slight problem with letting go.  Well, no
one is perfect.

--
Vicki - vmerrima@i.......
Nick    "What are you doing here?"
LaCroix "Making your life a living hell, as usual"

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:05:54 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Re: Last day of filming

Susan Garrett wrote:
>"Technically, this is the last day of filming for the third season...
>Let's think good thoughts and send best wishes their way."

Oh, let's!  Has anyone else noticed that this last day of filming
coincides with Ash Wednesday?  That haunts me, for some reason...  There
was a lot of talk about pagan (I mean that descriptively, not offensively)
spirituality and the SOS campaign a while back, and I've been wanting to
say this ever since: any other Christians out there?  I have concluded
that I cannot pray on behalf of the show, but that I can (and must) pray
on behalf of all of you, on behalf of the crew and cast we love, and even
on behalf of the TriStar executives.  I will keep all of you, and this
last day of filming, in the back of my mind when I go to Mass this
afternoon.  If your spirituality leans this way, please join me.

************ Amy R. r.......@w....... (Knightie-in-training)
"You have a choice between life and
death; you will get whichever you choose." -- Sirach 15:17 ********

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:15:19 -0500
From:    A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: Not leaving etc....

Ok , ok  I was stupid and emotional and bummed
when I said I was leaving the list, SO SUE ME!! the
outpouring of support for the list astonishes and
warms even this cold cynical heart. Wonder if Nigel
will stay on? Nah!

I think the idea of virtual epiosdes is great. Does this
mean the committee that picks the stories will act
like dunderhead producers and throw in gratutious T&A
and dead ladies in lingerie? Gosh I hope not. Maybe we
can get Gillian to write a virtual episode. She left this
list didn't she?

I read Cath Sieman's post about meeting Deb and
the Toronto Star  that treated us fans like
"obsessive dweebs" excuse me! We are not dweebs,
we're um, obsessive intellectuals. Boy the press never
gets it right.

Speaking of press I was startled and jealous
that Vanguard got to actually TALK to Nigel for
an interview . All I got was e-mail responses
to questions for my interview with him. Hmmmpf. :(

A Mc Iremi@a.......
"Peace, love, and understanding thru sarcasm"

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:05:43 EST
From:    TORREY L HARRIS <SSZK27A@p.......>
Subject: Wars and such


  Ok I have gotten a bunch of personal mail asking about the nature of
the wars and the fun Cherri and I have been having with the cow suit
thing. Sooo for the new friends on the list let me explain a important
fact.

The wars are just fun. Cherri and I are actually friends. ( was shocked
to find out some of the people thought we were fighting for real). In
the war the factions play wonderful jokes on each other and generally
try to out do each other. Behind the scenes all the factions are
working together to make the whole thing work. Everything is done with
permission from the people involved...yes we had Cherri's permission to
kidnap her...and Amy's permission to let Vachon hypnotize her into
thinking she was Janette. In the end we all wind up at a party...get
sloshed....flirt with the vamps of your choice....and try to stumble
back home <g>.

   Yes I am rambling...but I don't want people to have the wrong idea.
As for who wins.....well NOBODY! some will come out of it a little less
damaged than others though <G>.

As for the post saying that the wars are getting bigger...I agree and
also think that we need to have a strong leader loop and good
communication between the leaders and their faction members for this
next one if we want to pull it off and stay sane.

Ok I feel better now

Torrey

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:23:48 -0500
From:    colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: Re: Possible Long-Term Outcome

>5: a large enough budget to do thorough historical research (no more
>"Battle of Hastings").

I forget...What happened about the "Battle of Hastins"? I knew at one time,
but i think that lack of sleep has gotten to me...
Cp

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:26:15 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: fanfic problem

I just read part one of some fanfic and now can't find part two.  It was
a tracy Vachon story where Tracy is going to go undercover to sign in an
amateur night near a UT campus.

Vachon is going to be the guitarist and she asks him to find a band.  Can
someone help me find part two?  Thanks ever so.

--
Vicki - vmerrima@i.......
Nick    "What are you doing here?"
LaCroix "Making your life a living hell, as usual"

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:30:39 -0500
From:    colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: Re: FK on USA

>
>Totally newbie(i.e.-stupid) question.  What the H-E-double-hockey-
>sticks happened to FK on Tues. nights?  I almost taped boxing!!!!!

That happened to me too, but I didn't hurt my hand. FK has been on thusday
nights at 1 AM. I do not know if they it is still there though...
Cp

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:41:05 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Top Tens and Knighties

All these top-tens have come dancing down my screen, and, oddly, not one of
them has mentioned the large musical instrument that takes up most of
Nick's front room... So I hereby submit this Reason to be a Knightie:
Musicians -- especially tortured ones -- are absolutely irresistible.

YKYBWTMFK... when you reread Hamlet and suddenly realize you're picturing
the Prince of the Danes as GWD and his ghostly father as NB...

*** Amy R. r.......@w....... (Knightie-in-training)
"A man's spirit may be superior not only to his fate
but even to his own acts." -- R.Ornstein (on Hamlet[Nick])

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:51:50 -0500
From:    colin paddock <Claudius@n.......>
Subject: Merc Or Cousin?

ok all,
        Right now i'm a cousin...But being a Merc seems pretty fun...Can
someone tell me what being a merc involves?
thanks
cousin??? colin

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 16:54:00 -0500
From:    Chana Rossman <chana@b.......>
Subject: Wars, organization, and cross affliations

I can't wait to see how this "war" actually works.  I understand
the theory -- Cousins v. Knighties v. etc, etc.  But I've also
noticed a lot of cross affiliations.  (ie: Knighties with
Cousinly tendencies, Ravenettes who are also Cousins, Cousins
who are also NatPackers)

How does it all stay at least somewhat organized?  And how
do you avoid in-group fighting?  Before someone tells me to
go read the archives -- I have read some of them.  I'm
still curious.  I'll go back and read some more.  Or maybe I'll
just stay quiet and watch.  (Me? Stay quiet and watch? Hey, that's
a new idea...)

BTW, who is the leader/organizer for the Knighties, Natpackers,
and/or Nick&NatPackers?   Has that been decided?

Chana
(A Newbie although I don't admit it often!)



chana@b.......
Knightie * Natpacker * Nick&NatPacker
Help Save "Forever Knight" from cancellation! -- "Just Do It"

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