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Digest - 21 Feb 1996 - Special issue

Wed, 21 Feb 1996

There are 33 messages totalling 1009 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Fanfic list
  2. How Many Will Stay On? (3)
  3. I GOT IT!!!!!!
  4. Paper cranes
  5. Lists after FK. (2)
  6. YKYB...
  7. Fred's CD Selections
  8. Former Mercs
  9. A REASON to stay on the list (3)
 10. Who wins the Wars....
 11. Cousin unity ;)
 12. Just try to get rid of me. ;)
 13. FK novels (2)
 14. Fred Molin's music/FK soundtrack CD (2)
 15. I'm a comin' to Toronto
 16. The List
 17. retrieving story parts via Listserv
 18. The Wars That Have Happened
 19. comments...
 20. Fallen Idol in DC/Legal Question
 21. Need update on SOS!
 22. Show killers/show savers
 23. Wars and Timing
 24. Another list of reasons
 25. Winning Wars, etc.
 26. Novels

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 03:05:26 -0500
From:    Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fanfic list

In a message dated 96-02-20 01:03:23 EST, you write:

>What are the commands to get onto the fanfic list?  I've tried twice with
>the one I found on the web, but both times I was told it doesn't exist.

Send a message to LISTSERV@p.......  If at all possible don't include a
subject, (with those of us on AOL that's not possible, so just type in No
Subject at the top.)

In the message put

   Subscribe FKFIC-L INSERT NAME HERE

   Then they'll send you a message, and you need to confirm it within 48
hours.  And then you're on a Fiction list.

Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
Co-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 03:05:41 -0500
From:    Janette Z <Janette92@a.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

In a message dated 96-02-20 01:35:25 EST, you write:

>        lets pretend that fk is canceled...How many people would stay on the
>mailing list...Would there even Be a mailing list? I for one would stay on
>the list

      First FK won't be canceled!!!! EVER!!!  But IF it was, I would stay on
the list, (there are always repeats after all, and Fan-Fiction, and all that
other stuff.)  And also, we don't really discuss the new episodes on this
list anyway, so it wouldn't be like we were missing anything to discuss.

Ravenette, Immortal Beloved
Co-CFW for Evil MacLeod
Richie Reservist,
Janette92@a.......

"We have waited centuries for this moment.  The rivers will flow with the
blood of those who oppose us." --Kane, suspected leader of the Brotherhood of
Nod

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 02:22:39 -0600
From:    Fire And Life Incarnate <NSHEA4371@a.......>
Subject: I GOT IT!!!!!!

Date sent:  21-FEB-1996 02:14:25

Yes!
Finally I caught the references to Michael Praed!  I rented a movie
with him in it (a vampire movie, in fact).  As I was watching it, I
saw the resemblence to Ben Bass.  My mom thought I was crazy, when
about ten minutes into the movie I blurted out - "Ohmigosh!  He does
look like Vachon!"  She gave me that "funny farm candidate" look.

Well, aside from the fact that the local deputy has begun to follow me
around town at night, I'd say I'm having a pretty good week.  For some
reason, I'm getting good vibes about the future of FK (call me crazy,
I know how that sounds, but I call 'em like I feel 'em).

BTW, a tip for the more vindictive of the group.  I live in a small
rural area, where nobody ever thinks to check up on.  I know the
PERFECT place to keep out favorite execs while we convince them of the
error of their way...heh heh heh.  <sadistic grin>

Dark Phoenix
In a Oddly Good Mood...
NSHEA4371@a.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 04:20:16 -0500
From:    Pat Witham <catspaw@m.......>
Subject: Paper cranes

Folks, I know your intentions are good about sending
paper cranes to SONY, but I'm under the impression
the cranes are primarily associated these days in Japan
with Hiroshima and the atom bomb. It seems to me that
the SONY people in Japan wouldn't appreciate the A-bomb
being given the same significance as a TV show, no matter
how good we think the show is. I may be wrong about this
and I stand corrected if I am. I can make cranes myself.
They're really easy.

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 01:48:22 -0800
From:    Debbie Litchman <debbie8@e.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

At 12:24 PM 2/20/96 -0500, Jamie Melody Randell wrote:

>......This isn't just a mailing list, damn it, it's a *community*; it's a warm
>cozy place where we gather and talk about things that no one else would
>understand, debate and giggle, occasionally argue, and otherwise share
>quality family time with each other.

I wholeheartedly agree with the above.

In fact, I have made a new friend because I subscribed to this list :) (Bows to
Cousin Cherri) whom I never would have known about if I hadn't. :)

This list is about more than fans of a TV show.  This list is about people who
have dreams, hopes, aspirations (sp) that go way beyond the show :)

To me, this list is about people who have the guts to question "the popular
opinion" of how things should be.  We are able to say to those who ask, why?
Why not!

We each, in our own way, are willing to "fight the good fight" .  We also
seem to believe, as Winston Churchill, or was it Franklin Roosevelt?, put it
(paraphrasing) "There is nothing to fear, but fear, itself) :)

Or as someone ( I think it was Nathan Hale) said.......  "I have but one
life to live, and I live it for my country (continuation of an excellent TV
show)".

You  better believe I'll still be here. :)

Debbie8@e.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 05:27:26 -0500
From:    The Phoenix <jap8@c.......>
Subject: Lists after FK.

Just to clear up rumors wandering the list.

No, the FK lists (the ones hosted here on PSUVM, that is) aren't going
anywhere.

To wit: 'I'm not quitting until they have to pry my cold dead fingers off
the keyboard.'

So, we're not going anywhere, even if the show gets cancelled.  It's not
the show that really counts, but the people.  And you folks are the best,
even the ones who think I and my assistants are a bunch of egoists.

Cheers,
Red
(A Phoenix by any other name can still destroy the universe. :)

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 03:56:58 -0800
From:    Swordsister <catheboo@c.......>
Subject: YKYB...

YKYBWTMFKW...

I was sitting in my friend's room tonight doing homework, and of course
she has the omnipresent tv going in the background.  Anyway, so I'm busily
plugging away, minding my own business, when all of a sudden I hear
"Neeeecolaaaaa...."  I glance up to see what's on, amused at the YKYB.
Only to find, to my total and absolute confusion, a vampire in his
coffin!  Big black cape, huge widow's peak, the works.  And I hear it
again, "Neeeecolaaaaa..."  Well, by now I'm convinced I've gone
*completely* insane, and should just turn myself in before I become a
danger to others, when they finally get around to showing what the
commercial is about.

Ricola candies.

"Reeeeeecolaaaaaa..."

Catherine
---------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Boone                 catheboo@c.......
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
 themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 07:35:45 EST
From:    Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: Fred's CD Selections

That is true about the actual moment the song is played, Nick is very unhappy.
I had forgotten about that. All I was thinking about
was the ending - oh and the black leather. (Yum)

DottiR
Knightie 4-Ever

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 06:56:00 CST
From:    Jill Kirby <jtkirby@m.......>
Subject: Former Mercs

Sandra Gray said:

>But I didn't start that 'strip-poker' element
>(although I finished it).  Merc Maureen Wynn did that.

::clearing throat::  Just in case anyone wasn't aware, Maureen the Mad is
now a NatPacker.  And a very <good> NatPacker, I may add.  Anyone witnessing
her behaviour at various Toronto sites (or during our repeated viewings of
the ASC) would have <no> doubt left in their minds as to her affiliation.
Bounce, bounce, bounce.  <G>

Be very afraid for the next War...

Jill Kirby
jtkirby@m.......
NatPack
"I'm not mooning.  I'm obsessing.  There's a difference."

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:08:46 EST
From:    Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......>
Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list

I just thought of another reason.  NEWBIES!!  We could also start going back
over the old episodes, one by one season by season.  The Newbies who haven't had
a chance to discuss and disect and figure them out would get a chance and we old
timers might even get a new handle on some of the them as well.


Dotti R
Knightie 4-Ever

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:13:00 EST
From:    Maryann Jorgensen <majorge@i.......>
Subject: Re: Who wins the Wars....

>NatPack won War5, IMHO, and I'd say the Ravenettes did the best out of War6.
>
Big deal, so what.  Win or lose Knighties can anygst over it!:)
Maryann - the Knightie with a Nattitude                  majorge@i.......
*              Knightie, Natpacker , N&Ner, Paris-ite, Janewayan               *
********************************************************************************
And I have a life ... really ... it involves blond gorgeous men and art pencils.

"Facial art ... oh ... how very wilderness of you" - Q

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:55:15 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: Cousin unity ;)

Raissa Devereux wrote:

>Modern day allows for female knights. Their called Dames.

Egads!  I'd rather be called Sir Tippi than Dame Anything!  I prefer gender
confusion to the alternative. ;)

Elizabeth Ann Lewis wrote:

>I've actually been wondering... *are* there more Cousins than anything
>else?  My AOL group (waving to the Fang Gang) is frighteningly overloaded
>with Cousins, but I thought this was just an anomoly.  Am I wrong?  Are
>there (gulp) more Cousins than anything else?

It seems that way, doesn't it? ;)  I think Cousins outnumbered Knights and
Knighties by about 2 to 1 at the Houston FK party a few weeks ago.  I don't
recall any Vaquera/os or Perkulators.  I do recall one person who was
considering being a Natpacker.  We Cousins are an insidious group,
infiltrating the tiniest crack in the dark side of the soul, take root, and
blossom like blood roses.

Woah don't know what the heck possessed me to write that last line.  I'm not
*normally* so purple in my prose.  Someone hand me a mike and some radio
waves quick! ;)

Wicked Cousin Tippi
"Only saints can fall from grace.  The devils have already hit rock bottom."

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:55:19 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Just try to get rid of me. ;)

Yes, I'll be staying on the list.  Usually, such decisions are not up to me.
 I've been kicked off more mailing lists than I can count!  Something to do
with my being adversarial, pompous, pedantic, humorous at inappropriate
times, and extremely stubborn. ;)  On my grade school report card, it always
said "Does not play well with others."  I've been kicked out of schools,
department stores, and churches (the Sunday school teacher said I was under
the devil's influence, just for drawing anatomically correct angels.
 Sheesh!).

Really, tho, I'm the sweetest person you could ever hope to meet.
 (Muahahaha!)  People are always shocked to find out what a rabble-rouser I
am, as I look very conservative on the outside.

So far this is the longest I've managed to stay on a list -- about 5 weeks.
 I think it helps that the factions "agree to disagree" and flames are rare.
 For a bunch of people who watch bloodsucking vampires, we really are a
friendly group! ;)

The only way I'm leaving is if I can't afford an online account anymore, I
get abducted by a band of vampires to be their little lovetart, or I get
kicked off. ;)

Wicked Cousin Tippi

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:07:36 -0500
From:    Linda Pierce <lpierce@j.......>
Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list

On Wed, 21 Feb 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> I just thought of another reason.  NEWBIES!!  We could also start going
> back over the old episodes, one by one season by season.  The Newbies
> who haven't had a chance to discuss and disect and figure them out would
> get a chance.

Sounds wonderful.  I'm a Newbie of a couple of months. (And yes, I've
sent out a few letters. And no, I can't give blood, anemia disqualifies
me.)  I would love the change to dicuss the old eps that a very kind soul
lent me to copy.  My favs to date include Last Act and Only the Lonely.
I also like Foward into the Past..  and yes, I suspect I'm a Natpacker.
Married to a cousin... (After refusing to watch for several weeks.. he
finally came across.. and I discovered he was a cousin at heart..)

Linda Pierce
lpierce@a.......
Natpacker

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:07:02 -0600
From:    "Heather Rigby (Goldeneyes)" <Z_RIGBYHA@t.......>
Subject: Re: FK novels

How can a man who looks like a sick John De Lancie have any sort of a
love life at all?  Not to mention that he's pig-headed, arrogant, control-
crazy, childish, and above all, gross.

Heather (Goldeneyes)
I think I'm a Knightie, I think I find him too fascinating not to like him.
"You are my Knight in Shining Armor, you I must protect."

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:22:12 -0500
From:    Fred Mollin <ZOOMAR1010@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fred Molin's music/FK soundtrack CD

DK SIDE OF THE GLASS ends the CD!
Please e-mail
buzbanzai@a.......
as he is the guy from the record label and he'll put you on a follow up list
as the CD will be out mid March

thanks

Fred

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:24:46 -0500
From:    Fred Mollin <ZOOMAR1010@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fred Molin's music/FK soundtrack CD

Please pass the word:
Dark Side Of The Glass
ends the CD!
Please feel free to contact Mark Banning from GNP Crescendo Records at
buzbanzai@a.......
and he'll give you more details on release date, ordering info..

Fred

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:30:16 -0400
From:    Stapleton <d7ux@u.......>
Subject: I'm a comin' to Toronto

As the subject line denotes, I will be in Toronto sometime during the
week of March 4th or 5th to the 7th or 8th. My family is driving up (via
Quebec City - my uncle lives there) to Toronto during UNB's mid-term break.

What I was wondering is if there was anybody in the TO area who wanted to
get together sometime during that week?

Drop me a line, if you'd like.

Lynn Stapleton
NatPacker
d7ux@u.......

"Ain't love a bitch." - Natalie, Stranger Than Fiction

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:43:57 -0500
From:    Carrie Krumtum <Carrie400@a.......>
Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list

>I just thought of another reason.  NEWBIES!!  We could also start going back
>over the old episodes, one by one season by season.  The Newbies who haven't had
>a chance to discuss and disect and figure them out would get a chance and we old
>timers might even get a new handle on some of the them as well.


YES, yes, yes, lets.

Carrie,
Proud Knightie

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:59:00 EST
From:    Laurie Salopek <LMS5@p.......>
Subject: The List

The List are not going anywhere. As long as I work for Penn State, they will
be here... even after they pry Jean cold hands from her keyboard ;-)

ps.. Jean.. STOP CHANGING YOUR NICKNAME :-P


Laurie

PPS... I will be leaving the DEBSPLAY up and running for those of you who
would like to us to coordinate your trip up to Toronto for Ger's play.

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:19:00 -0400
From:    Stapleton <d7ux@u.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

I'm in for the long haul. Not once before have I been a part of such a
Community of people (mortals and immortals alike :-)). This is a
wonderful group of people who are polite - even in disagreements. We
often differ in opinions of episodes, but what is life, if there was only
one side to a story. It broadens our horizons.

The Fan-Fiction is a wonderful opportunity to showcase our writing
talents and have others enjoy what we write. It also serves as
complementary to the show, when the characters are given background in
the stories. More often than not, I can see through various writers'
contributions, that I see the character in a new light, whether it be
humourous, tragic, or dramatic. Even if the characterizations are not
favourable, the understanding is there. If anything else it often
provides more background to the characters where there has been none on
the screen.

The Fan-Fic Wars: A great time. Where else can you have 100+ FK fans in
Toronto interacting with each other and the characters of choice (aside
from conventions :-))? Fun, blackmail, torture [Sandra w/ LaCroix in the
Raven cellar], parties.

To whomever suggested picking a fan-fic story / per week, that should have
been an episode reviewing is a wonderful idea. Right off the bat I can
think of some fantastic ones.

Okay, so I've been rambling. I've got to finish reading my mail.

Lynn Stapleton
NatPacker
d7ux@u.......

"Ain't love a bitch." - Natalie, Stranger Than Fiction

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:21:13 -0500
From:    "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: retrieving story parts via Listserv

Folks,

Several people have asked for updated information on retrieving
story parts that they may be missing from FKFIC-L. While asking
the authors to send those missing parts may be an option, it
may be difficult for several reasons. You cannot ask the author
or any other kind soul on FKFIC-L for the missing part because
only stories are posted on FKFIC-L; no chatter is allowed. Some
authors are only subscribed to FKFIC-L, not FORKNI-L where requests
for missing posts should rightly be directed. Second, some authors
only have Internet access through pay-per-line subscriptions, making
it a costly enterprise to send the story even once much less to all
the people who may have missed portions of it.

The listserv at PSUVM.PSU.EDU which handles the mailing of FKFIC-L
posts has a few simple commands you can use to great effect in
retrieving the pesky missing posts. The commands that I've found most
useful involve retrieving files without knowing the exact title
of a story (sort of a keyword search), retrieving files for a
day that I was out of the office (or my mailer program crashed,
or Murphy's Law simply took over), and retrieving mail for an
author that I've found particularly intriguing. These three
procedures are detailed below.

For those of you who have been around long enough to remember, these
commands were posted with the very first FAQ. I've updated them to
reflect newer dates and stories and I've made them a little easier
to read. And I have listowner permission to send this. :)


---------------------------------------------------
TO RETRIEVE A STORY WITHOUT KNOWING THE EXACT TITLE
---------------------------------------------------

Let's say I was looking for a missing story part. I can't
remember the exact title of the story, but I know it has the
word "velvet" in it. I send the following message to the
listserv:


        To:     listserv@p.......
        Subj:

        //
        Database Search DD=Rules
        //Rules DD *
        Search velvet in fkfic-l
        Index
        /*


By sending these commands, I am asking the listserv to send
me an index listing of every message archived for FKFIC-L that
contains the word "velvet" in it.

There are several things to note here: (1) the case of the word
"velvet" is totally irrelevant; (2) there's nothing in the subject
line; (3) I don't send the message to FORKNI-L or FKFIC-L directly,
but to the listserv machine that handles these lists; and (4) the
above commands must be typed in EXACTLY as I have them typed above.

This is the message I received from the listserv:


----- Begin Included Message -----

From: "L-Soft list server at PSUVM (1.8b)" <LISTSERV@p.......>
Subject:      File: "DATABASE OUTPUT"

> Search velvet in fkfic-l
--> Database FKFIC-L, 26 hits.

> Index
Item #   Date   Time  Recs   Subject
------   ----   ----  ----   -------
000014 96/02/01 23:38   57   "A Taste of Black Velvet" (0/29)
000017 96/02/02 00:29   61   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (1/29)
000018 96/02/02 00:37  105   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (2/29)
000019 96/02/02 00:41  181   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (3/29)
000029 96/02/02 20:29  169   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (4/29)
000030 96/02/02 20:47  184   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (5/29)
000031 96/02/02 20:51  231   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (6/29)
000032 96/02/02 20:53  191   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (7/29)
000036 96/02/03 13:22  136   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (8/29)
000038 96/02/03 13:53  241   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (9/29)
000039 96/02/03 14:11  270   ADULT: " A Taste of Black Velvet" (10/29)
000040 96/02/03 14:22  179   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (11/29)
000042 96/02/03 18:19  114   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (12/29
000050 96/02/04 12:03  219   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (13/29)
000051 96/02/04 12:11  215   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (14/29)
000052 96/02/04 12:16  204   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (15/29)
000053 96/02/04 12:27  234   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (16/29)
000054 96/02/04 12:45  209   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (17/29)
000057 96/02/04 22:23  243   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (18/29)
000058 96/02/04 23:11  153   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (19/29)
000091 96/02/07 09:41  253   A Little Knowledge (3/7)
000095 96/02/07 21:45  284   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (20/29)
000097 96/02/07 22:02  266   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (21/29)
000098 96/02/07 22:30  159   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (22/29)
000099 96/02/07 22:45  210   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (23/29)
000100 96/02/07 23:18  255   ADULT: "A Taste of Black Velvet" (24/29)

----- End Included Message -----


I notice from this list that "A Taste of Velvet" is the story I'm
looking for and that the installment that I want is "A Taste of
Black Velvet (16/29)" which has the item number 000053.

Since I would really like to complete my set of the installments for
this story, I'm going to ask the listserv to send me a copy of this
file. This is the message I send:


        To:     listserv@p.......
        Subj:

        //
        Database Search DD=Rules
        //Rules DD *
        Search velvet in fkfic-l
        Print all of 000053
        /*


This tells the listserv to send me one copy of the file "A Taste of
Black Velvet (16/29)", thus saving Marcia Tucker and countless other
people the time of sending me a copy of the file. If I discover that
I really need both part 16 and part 17, then I would replace "Print
all of 000053" with "Print all of 000053 000054" and send the request
off on its merry way.


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TO RETRIEVE MAIL FOR A PARTICULAR DAY OR DAYS
---------------------------------------------

Computers are notoriously susceptible to Murphy's Law: at the
most critical juncture in a story, usually when the villain
looks like she might actually win, your mailing program will
send the one story part you absolutely must read off to the
same area of heaven to which single socks and small dogs go.
To retrieve mail for a particlar range of days, let's say while
I was on vacation, I would send the following message:


        To:     listserv@p.......
        Subj:

        //
        Database Search DD=Rules
        //Rules DD *
        search * in FKFIC-L from 96/02/01 to 96/02/29
        print all
        /*


This asks the listserv to send me all of the posts sent to FKFIC-L
during the month of February 1996. Note that I simply asked for
all the posts to be sent without actually seeing a list of the
file names. If you want to pick and choose which files you want,
simply replace the words "print all" with "index" and then follow
the procedures detailed above for printing specific messages.


---------------------------------------
TO RETRIEVE MAIL BY A PARTICULAR AUTHOR
---------------------------------------

Everyone has a favorite autho. I understand the fanatical need to
get everything by a particular author. Let's say that I want all
of Henry Wycoff's crossover stories. I would send the following
message:


        To:     listserv@p.......
        Subj:

        //
        Database Search DD=Rules
        //Rules DD *
        search * in FKFIC-L where sender contains wyckoff
        index
        /*


This tells the listserv that I want a list of all the posts
that were sent by the userID wycoff (which is Mr. Wycoff's
userID right now). Note that it is again possible to replace
the "index" command with a "print all" command, but Mr. Wycoff's
stories are very very long, too many, in fact for some people to
have sent to them in one day. So again, pick and choose from the
list that listserv sends you and then follow the instructions
above for retrieving specific messages using the "print all" command.


I hope these commands help you all. If you've got a different kind
of search that you need to accomplish, let me know and I'll figure
out if it's possible and then send you instructions on how to
accomplish it. And if you have trouble with the above commands or
instructions, let me know and I'll see what I can do to help you
out.

Forever,

Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette, gjwalli@m.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:36:47 -0500
From:    "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: The Wars That Have Happened

Some people asked me to post this here for the new people on the list
and those people who haven't been in a fiction war. This is from
the FK Fiction Bibliography I maintain:

  FK Wars

  The FK Wars are round robin fan fiction. A basic plotline is
  introduced and then other people add parts to the story. In the
  words of author Susan Garrett "The point of the wars is to learn
  about each other while creating a slightly odd, cracking good
  story." This is one case where a war really isn't a war, but a series
  of stories, usually practical fiction jokes, played on willing
  participants in the war. Currently, five wars have occurred. An
  unofficial sixth war started with the impending cancellation of FK:

   FKWARS I: A Call to Arms
   FKWARS II: Application Forthcoming
   FKWARS III: All Things Fun
   FKWARS IV: Coup D'Etat
   FKWARS V: Chess
   FKWARS VI: And This Time, It's Personal. [in progress, title unofficial]


The titles for the first five fiction wars listed here were all taken
from the subject line of the first OFFICIAL post (always sent by the
person sponsoring the war). Technically War VI isn't a war, but so
many people on the list have started calling it such, that I'm loathe
to argue with them.

Questions? Comments? Wafer thin mint?

Jasmine, gjwalli@m......., Faithful Ravenette

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:43:45 -0500
From:    John Ewan <jwe@m.......>
Subject: comments...

At 17:00 2/20/96 -0500, you wrote:
>        As a farewell, let me say that if War #7 comes in the summer, I'm
>ready. Or as ready as I can be. <checks to make sure ash stakes, holy water,
>garlic, and wide-spectrum UV sunlamps are within arm's reach>
>     Pat -- Lone Nanette, B-Negative FoD> Web Page Designer-In-Training
>------------------------------
During the last War, full enviornmental suits were the order of the day;
hipwaders and shovels would suffice.....

>H'mm, I'm another viewer who seems to kill off the shows I like.
>>What if we organized a roster to watch USA non-stop as revenge? :)
>>We might extend it to TriStar, too. <evil, cousinly grin>
>>Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble.">Lisa McDavid

Weekly World News *is* better in the dead tree version, so I'll watch that
to get it off the air.  I am *not* willing to watch another Campus Cops!
The first time I gave that a try left me twitchy! <g>
------------
<deleted 'naughty bits'>
>Cousin Michelle/feeling wicked today

When you do something well, you should go for it! <g>

John Ewan, jwe@m....... *Ratpack*  The "Forever Knight" show has been
cancelled on USA; check this URL for the latest information!
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:35:11 EST
From:    MS SHIRLEY A CLINE <VUYX56A@p.......>
Subject: Fallen Idol in DC/Legal Question

Marcy Grace <marcy@h.......> asks:
<<Does anyone have any info if channel 50 will air FI in DC? What time
will Baltimore air it on Ch. 45? Thanks>>
     I haven't seen any answers to this on list (I'm on digest, btw),
so please pardon me if this info has already been posted. 45 will air
it at 2am, late Saturday/early Sunday. 50 will air it at 3pm Sunday,
following a game, so take the usual precautions. :)

"Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......> said:
<<spoke with Gary at Paragon LA again today and he said that the
aforementioned putzes at TriStar are just sending a lot of mail their
way asuming that it is FK related...and not all of it is. They're
getting stuff totally unrelated.>>
     Is that legal? Because of the man hours involved in opening and
sorting mail, I would think from a purely financial standpoint that it
wouldn't be. Not to mention that it's not nice. <sigh> I just can't
believe they're doing that. Correction, I *can* believe it, considering
the way they've handled things thus far. :(
     No matter what happens, I plan to stay on this list.

Cousin Shirl <vuyx56a@p.......>
///"With fever I persist, the rages of your kiss. My reckless heart in
fist, and I cannot resist"--"Resist" by Melissa Etheridge///

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:57:45 -0700
From:    "Tiger Tiger burning bright....." <tango@u.......>
Subject: Need update on SOS!

Hi!  I was out of town this past week and need a rundown of what has
happened with the show thus far. Could someone please send me a note
giving me all of the major points(ie--what is the show's current status,
what are next moves are, etc.)

Thanx!

LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT!! :)=

*******************************************
Erika.             *
Knightie,NatPacker * "You know, Nicholas,
Nick&NatPacker     * sometimes you really
extrodinare!       * are one umbrella short
                   * of a cocktail."
tango@u.......     * Natalie, Curiouser & Curiouser
******************************************
SW Fan, HL Fan, X-Phile & LGW #24
'The Few, the Proud, the Paranoid.'
SAVE FOREVER KNIGHT!(E-Mail me for details)

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:12:51 -0500
From:    Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: Show killers/show savers

I feel so left out...I've never killed a show.  Well, there's ST:TNG, but then
they brought in DS9 and VOY... I've got to be some kind of mutant...I've
*saved* shows...in the past two years, my two favorite shows (after FK, of
course) have been cancelled and then re-instated, or almost cancelled and then
saved...(I speak of X-Files and Due South...) Hm.  There's hope yet!

Katya
-=feel the call of the Knight...=-
 * Raven * X-Phile * Trekker * FFFROGie * Crusader *


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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 08:10:00 PT
From:    Tami Lafrank <tamilyn.lafrank@a.......>
Subject: Lists after FK.

Never, An egoist, no way. You are a goddess. To be worshipped and adored
and sacrificed to for creating and maintaining these lists. Providing us
all with a safe, warm place to meet and talk and giggle and debate.
I will build you a shrine next to the sacred 'Raven Health Spa' where I
will daily sacrifice the beverage of your choice before entering and
relaxing in the warm bubbles of the spa.

To make a true rendering of the aforementioned shrine,a photograph that
resembles Jaye is needed (a photo of Sharon Stone, Madonna, Barbara
Streisand, your true self, whatever you would like). Email your
suggestions/gifs and I will create this shrine this weekend.

I will never leave. I will haunt these lists from my grave.

I love you all.

Tami LaFrank                 : TCL58@a....... or TCL20@a.......
Forever Faithful Ravenette   :
The Raven Health Spa         : Eat a live frog first thing in the morning
"Dying to prolong your life" : and nothing worse will happen to you all day.

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:16:25 -0400
From:    Stapleton <d7ux@u.......>
Subject: Re: Wars and Timing

The War 7 during War 6 (SOSFK) would indeed be lots of fun. Perhaps a
little crazy, but definitely fun.

Jamie M.R. posted:

> I think I would also wind up having to be locked up in a rubber room with
> bubblegum pink walls in a nice white coat with long sleeves, if I even
> tried to survive through *that* one.  :-)

Fortunately you're a NatPacker, Jamie. That could come back to haunt you
during WAR 7, then we'd have to go bail you out - that is, if you wanted
to be bailed out :-)

Lynn Stapleton
NatPacker
d7ux@u.......

"Ain't love a bitch." - Natalie, Stranger Than Fiction

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:30:15 -0500
From:    Lisa Clevenger <Sukhmet@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK novels

Some of us are drawn to the darkside( come to the darkside ,Luke), and find
him quite sexy.
At least he doesn't sit around moping about everything. Whine, whine, that's
all he ever does.

IMO- it takes all kinds,  sometims you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't.

I still think that man needs to have a raging affair with another(female
JADFE people) vampire from his past.  Maybe some one Nick knows too...
 O love triangle!  Jealousy, fights, fangs!  I like it!  A woman that plays
of  both to make them fight.  ( a bad girl herself, is there any other kind)
 Chaos!
Cousin Suk

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:00:58 +0200
From:    Marina Bailey <tmar@o.......>
Subject: Another list of reasons

No going to sleep yet, even if these things are boring you! I *love* lists,
so what the heck...

YOU MIGHT BE *DARK* KNIGHTIE IF...

1. You drool over Nick whether he's being good and drinking protein shakes
   *or* biting people
2. You actually like it better when Nick vamps out
3. You find scenes where he bites the female-neck-of-the-week incredibly
   sexy
4. You really don't understand the fuss over Nick drinking human blood. It
   isn't like he had to kill anyone for it.
5. As in #4, you think that drinking human blood would probably put Nick in
   a good mood
6. You wish that Nick would just get off his behind and bring Natalie across
7. You wait in vain for Nick to take his shirt off... in fact, you hope he
   gets more biting/love scenes because at least he gets to wear something a
   bit more open at the top
8. You like it when Nick and LaCroix get on with each other
9. You're upset Janette left because now Nick doesn't have *that*
   connection to his true nature
10. You feel like smacking Nick upside the head when he starts angsting
11. You think that if Nick could just accept himself as a vampire, he'd be
    much happier.
12. You have dreams in which Nick bites you... and doesn't feel guilty about
    it afterwards!

- Marina. (tmar@f.......; Knightie)
\\ Advice to Nick: "She hates the shirt, get rid of //
// the shirt, burn the bloody shirt!" - Lenny Henry.\\

... You gotta love this place, every day's like Halloween.


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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:30:05 EST
From:    Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Winning Wars, etc.

Not all Cousins *want* to win. Some of us, like me, just get a kick
out of the license to be annoying. <evil, LaCroixian grin>

Some of us, like me, even end up fighting *LaCroix.* So far I've
tricked him into biting me (knowing I was poisonous to vampires --
this was years before Bad Blood) and chased him out of a bar with an
undead lobster, a pot of garlic butter and a pack of spirit wolves.

Btw, I would really like to know how come they're going ahead with
the FK novels if they're so sure there isn't an audience for new
episodes.

Or have we made the mistake of being so literate in our campaign that
they're paying us the compliment of assuming we actually read. <sarcasm
off>

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......

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Date:    Wed, 21 Feb 1996 11:42:33 -0500
From:    "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: Novels

On Wed, Feb 21, 1996 11:30:05 AM, Lisa McDavid wrote:

>Btw, I would really like to know how come they're going ahead with
>the FK novels if they're so sure there isn't an audience for new
>episodes.

Because they'll sell even better with the show off the air (temporarily, we
hope).  We're all going to need a fix.  Besides, as I understand it, the
novelizations are almost pure profit for TriStar so they have nothing to
lose.

Sharon

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