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Digest - 20 Feb 1996 - Special issue

Tue, 20 Feb 1996

There are 41 messages totalling 1041 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Schanke's fantasy
  2. War reminder
  3. You Might Be a FoD If...
  4. Digest response from John the Rat
  5. A REASON to stay on the list (2)
  6. Confused about Wars/Etc
  7. blood substitutes and Neilsens
  8. Theme Songs
  9. How many would stay...
 10. Top Ten Reasons to Join the Fic-Wars
 11. Staying on.....
 12. FORKNI-L Digest - 20 Feb 1996
 13. You might be a KOQTV if...
 14. How Many Will Stay On? (8)
 15. Top Ten...to be a Knightie
 16. Cranes for FK (2)
 17. Cresando number
 18. A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks (5)
 19. Fever and Human Factor (No Spoilers
 20. LC/morality pt2
 21. Vampire Fiction/I'm staying
 22. The Shawshank Approach
 23. Hanging in/Debsplay
 24. Ger in Taming of the Shrew
 25. Staying On
 26. LIST RULES: Read Thru & Save To File
 27. Who wins the Wars....
 28. GWD's Scots accent / Audiotapes

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:37:42 -0800
From:    Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......>
Subject: Re: Schanke's fantasy

At 1:30 PM 2/20/96, vicki jean merriman wrote:
>On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Lynne Levine wrote:
>
>> "Playboy" is a young woman dressed in a school-girl uniform, complete
>> with plaid skirt.  I saw that and squealed "oh my god -- It's Schanke's
>> fantasy!!!!!"
>
>I'm sorry, but I just don't see this as Schanke's fantasy.  It sounds
>entirely too much like Jenny to me.  Isn't Jenny about 11?  I think that
>Schanke's fantasy woman is someone like Janette.

Dance By the Light of the Moon--Schanke says that his fantasy is a women
dressed in a schoolgirl's plaid skirt.  Anyone who wants to debate the
Freudian connotations is welcome.  :)

Which isn't to say that he doesn't divert an occasional fantasy Janette's
way...  :)

Elizabeth
elewis@u.......***Lizbetann@a.......
Ravenette of the New Order
Knightie/NatPacker/N&N Packer with Cousinly Sympathies
and faint leanings towards Vanquira-ism
"Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be
Listowner, Middle Ages Life
http://members.aol.com/Lizbetann/mypage.html

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:27:34 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: War reminder

Siobhan writes:
> >From all the enthusiastic messages of late, it looks like the next war is
> going to be a big one.  So, may I make a small request on behalf of those

Re: this and some of the newbie posts recently...

Be advised, all ye newbies <g>, that wars are begun with permission from
the ListOwner (that would be Jaye :-) ONLY.  War 7, I should hope, will
be some time in the future yet... as we have not finished, let alone
attempted to recover from, War6 (the SOS-FK effort) yet.

That said, Siobhan's point is well made and one of many important rules
and regulations about the wars you'll need to know before you start anyway.
<digs around> I've got a list of them here somewhere... if anyone feels
like studying up in advance, I'll even send them to you (private email me).

Dianne
"An Educated Newbie Is a Happy Newbie" <vvvvbg>

Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......>
The Mad SOS-FK Digester -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
KoQTV -*- FoFoD -*- FKLPL -*-  Crane-folder-in-training...

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:17:13 -0800
From:    Roni Power <bach@c.......>
Subject: You Might Be a FoD If...

Hi All,
  Here is my list of ways to tell if your a FoD.

1. You think Arizona is a great place to live.
2. You like underwear that fits.
3. You like pj's with moose on them.  (Is there a plural form for moose?)
4. You think pizza is nature's perfect food.
5. You think plaid skirts and knee socks are sexy.
6. You like watching old reruns of "I Dream of Jeannie".
7. You think souvlaki is food of the Gods.
8. Your convenced Nick is a few bricks shy of a full load.
9. You like to do the Polka.

Roni.

Schanke-He's a *Good* Cop! With  |Pinky are you pondering what I'm pondering?
*Good* Instincts! Become A FoD!  |  I think so Brain but if we didn't have
Roni Power  bach@c.......  O+ FoD|      ears, we'd look like weasels.

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:33:32 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Digest response from John the Rat

John Ewan writes:
>Was that the 'strip-poker' storyline?  Someone certainly made the most of
>it!

That was a *part* of it.  But I didn't start that 'strip-poker' element
(although I finished it).  Merc Maureen Wynn did that.

Watch out for those Mercs!  They're worse than Cousins! ;)

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:49:18 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list

TJ and Sorcha (what a neat name!) wrote:

>Sorcha and I would like to volunteer to start up a committee to select one
>script per week to "air" as that week's story.  We then have new material
>-- the SAME material -- to discuss.

Ohmigod!  You musta read my mind last night.  Or I musta read yours.  Either
way did you get any premonitions of vanilla-scented bubblebath?  Because as I
was languishing in the tub last night I was thinking that I'd like to
continue to see (or write) new scripts even IF the show doesn't return.  I
think it's a great idea!  I'll even make finger puppets to play along...!

WCT

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:49:29 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Confused about Wars/Etc

Okay, I admit it.  I can't go on living this horrible lie! I... I really
haven't the faintest idea what a War is.  Except that it seems to involve cow
suits and chocolate.  I joined the list at the end of the last war I think.
 Does the war take place on the FKFIC list?  Will martial arts come in handy?
 How about marital arts?  Inquiring minds and all that jazz.

Also, can someone email me offlist and let me know how to set the list to
digest (and how to unset it).  I'm gonna be in Dallas (Arlington) this
weekend painting the town blood red with Cousin Suk (lock up your sons!). ;)

WCT

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 17:49:03 -0500
From:    "[M A Martin]" <mmartin@b.......>
Subject: blood substitutes and Neilsens

Well, that is an interesting combination of subjects! But they both come
from the Feb 12 (1996) issue of Business Week.

on p. 73
A biotech company called Somatogen has been working on a genetically
engineered red-blood-cell substitute called Optro (weird name). The
pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly has invested in its development and will
market it -- if the upcoming expanded trials show promise. Just what could
this mean for our modern-day vamps? No problem with tainted blood here (a
la _Fever_), but would it have the same kick as human blood? Too bad Nat
hasn't looked into this area of research.

on p. 38-9
The have a short review of the recent rebellion over the Neilsen
hegemony. They mention Chase Carey's (Fox TV Chairman) statements in Las
Vegas at the end of Jan (NATPE, I guess) as well as Neil S. Braun's (NBC
Television President) plans to create a new service to replace the
Neilsens. It is a nice summary, but I'm not going to type it all in. If
you want to read it and can't find a copy of BW (check your local
libraries) then you can send me a SASE (email me privately for my address).

Meg                              (mmartin@b.......)

A hen is only an egg's way of making another egg. Samuel Butler (1877)
as found in _There Goes Archimedes_ by S Harris and SN Arseculerane p.63

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:53:42 PST
From:    Chad Christopher <christop@h.......>
Subject: Theme Songs

One song that is really geared to Nick is ''Someone Else?'' by Queensryche, on
 the album 'Promised Land'.
If you know the song, I'm sure you would agree that this could have been written
 by Nick and you can see him playing it on his piano.
The lyrics are basically about someone stumbling through their life (lives) and
 every memory of
themselves they see someone else and not their true selves.  Check it out,
 especially if you make FK theme tapes.

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:54:15 -0600
From:    Amy Denton <Z_DENTONAM@t.......>
Subject: Re: How many would stay...

Regarding how many would stay if FK was cancelled:

  I most certainly would.  I joined this list during the *first time* FK was
off the air and it was wonderful.  By the time I actually saw the first season
eps. it was like I had already seen them, the descriptions were wonderful.
   This list is great!!  And you guys are wonderful!!

Amy D.
z_dentonam@t.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:00:08 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons to Join the Fic-Wars

Dianne DeSha writes:
>You seemed to entertain yourself pretty well in "difficult" circumstances
>... the aftermath of the strip poker bit comes to mind.... <snicker>
>You know what they say about the line between love and hate being *sooooo*
>thin... <vwg>

There were extenuating circumstances (we were both drunk).  I would remind
you that I would not have been there *at all* if I wasn't *kidnapped* and
locked in the wine cellar with LC.

I can't stand LC's personality.

I was just working with the storyline that was handed to me.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:04:11 -0500
From:    Rose Higher <RHigher@a.......>
Subject: Staying on.....

Personally, I'd really miss this group.  I've been lurking as usual but, have
done my letter writing, my donations of blood and time.
I know that I'll be here as long as the list is.
Forever,
Cousin Rose
@--->-->--

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:10:59 -0700
From:    Kathy L <kathryn@u.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 20 Feb 1996

Okay, I know this is a really <lame> question, but...could some kind and
generous soul on this list please explain to a rather confused Newbie
exactly what the FK Wars are?  (Yes, I read the FAQs but it didn't really
help much, it sounds a <lot> more involved than the FAQ suggests...) Just
what am I getting myself into, here? :)  I just discovered this wonderful
show about six months ago (and the mailing lists), and I'm still trying
to catch up.

Thanks a bunch.
Kathy
kathryn@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:17:57 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: You might be a KOQTV if...

Oh, God knows I seem to be...Moonlighting...Remington Steele...Beauty and
the Beast...Santa Barbara (still spitting mad at NBC over *that* one!
It's a cruel and evil thing to kill someone's soap!)...

It's actually really depressing...and in my case it seems to be genetic
(my mother was cursed with the same affliction)...yikes, suddenly I'm
getting the urge to cancel my cable and just rely on my VCR.

My only consolation is that General Hospital has survived well over 35
years, my bad kharma alone can't kill it <knock on wood!>

Alora

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:40:54 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Jamie Melody Randell wrote:

> No matter what happens with the cancellation, I will stick with the SOSFK
> thing for as long as there is the remotest glimmer of hope for ANY sort of
> continuation of Forever Knight; and quite probably afterwards.  I don't
> know why, I don't know how, but I feel a very strong conviction that
> ***this story is not yet over***.

One line too long, I know <flame away!>....I just wanted to publically
thank Jamie for this (and everything else she said in her post).

Even though things look pretty bleak I am planning on sticking with it
too (the commercial and all that).

After a rotten day at work, a huge fight with my Dad and the dismal
reports of the shows seemingly unsalvageable future, I needed to hear
that someone else wasn't willing to give up yet either.

And as far as the list in particular, after the afore mentioned lousy
day, I felt *TONS* better to open my mailbox and find 132 messages
there...I would probably be wallowing in self-pity if I wasn't laughing
over Top Ten's and getting angry at USA/TriStar all over again.

Nope, I'm not going anywhere either.

Alora

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:01:23 -0500
From:    "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

Jamie wrote:

> No matter what happens with the cancellation, I will stick with the SOSFK
> thing for as long as there is the remotest glimmer of hope for ANY sort of
> continuation of Forever Knight; and quite probably afterwards.

Me?  I just want to be a pain in the butt now.  You know, the proverbial
thorn in someone's side.  I'm gonna be here cranking out letters and
whatever for a while yet Just because I don't like being ignored (if there
are typos in here its because I smashed the middle finger of my left hand
this morning and there's a big bandage on it).  And because TriStar thinks
they can just get rid of us because they're a big, faceless corporation.

It's sort of like Andy Dupre in "The Shawshank Redemption."  He wanted new
books for the prison library, so he wrote a letter a week to the state
legislature.  After a while, they sent him some old books, a check for $200
dollars and a request to stop writing.

He decided to write *two* letters a week to the state legislature after
that.

Eventually he got his library.

As I said to Susan last night, we're now a package deal with TriStar.  If
Sony sells TriStar, they'll be sending us along with them to their new
owners.  I take a perverse pleasure in that, for some reason.
--
Sharon A. Himmanen * NatPacker * romana@p....... ***Game of gopher,
anyone? ***
Forever Knight has been *cancelled*!  For more info on how to save it,
check out http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:11:56 -0800
From:    "Toni C. Holm" <tch@w.......>
Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list

TJ and Sorcha said:
> I have a proposal in the (hopefully nonexistant) possibility
>that we do not get a fourth season in the fall:
>What do we like to discuss?  New episodes.  Who says we need TriStar to
>honor us with them?  I say we do it ourselves.
   <snip>

What a perfect example of ... "lemonade"!

        Yes!

                -Toni   <tch@w.......>

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:14:51 -0500
From:    Bobbie Williams <UserKnight@a.......>
Subject: Top Ten...to be a Knightie

Some more top ten reasons to be a Knightie...

10.  You get to ride in Nick's elevator as much as you want (up and down, up
and down...)
9.    Unexpected visits from LaCroix!!
8.    You get to play with the cool remote control window blinds (up and
down, up and down...)
7.    You get to ignore Tracy as much as you want to.
6.    You can say "clew" and everybody thinks its adorable!
5.    You can bounce on Nick's satin sheets (up and...you get the picture)
4.    All the Prozac you can take.
3.    You can daydream at traffic lights and no one blows their horns at you.
2.    You can take home evidence recovered from a crime scene and no one will
stop you!
1.    You learn to say "It's my fault" in a dozen different languages. :-)

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:15:05 -0500
From:    Bobbie Williams <UserKnight@a.......>
Subject: Cranes for FK

Well, I've all done with the paper cranes I promised to make--one small
question, to whom do I send them?  I'm afraid I deleted the listing with that
person's name in it.

Mea Culpa (I am a Knightie, after all!!)
Bobbie (UserKnight@a.......)
"Out of the spirit, into the flesh/The animal heartbeat in the chest
The naked desire/The appetite/But you remember the light"

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:11:58 EST
From:    CINDY L BREWER <DHRC98C@p.......>
Subject: Cresando number

Hi Guys,

1) Could some kind soul send me Cresando's(sp?) number for ordering the
soundtrack when it comes out?I think I accidently deleted the digest
containing this information....:-)

2)As for Who will stay on the list.....count me in too...I've had too much
fun on this list and made too many friends to give it up.:-)Besides there's
a War coming up......:-)

3)There was a story posted awhile ago on the Fic list,I think called 'The
Equal'.It was a love story about LaCroix.....I don't recall seeing the
ending posted...if I missed it could the author send it to me?Thanks in advance.

4)Thanks for all the replies on Grace's last name....I never would've
guessed Baltazar....<G>


                        Cindy Brewer DHRC98C@p.......
                       Knighite,Nick&Natpacker,Optimist's club
                       Vaquera
             "You're the only supernatural friend I have."Tracy to Vachon

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:07:12 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks

  ROTFLMAO, Jamie!!!!

        You hit the jackpot for Dumbest Response of All!!!

        And we thought Sony didn't know its elbow from its elbow....

Laura

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:46:01 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Sharon A. Himmanen wrote:

> As I said to Susan last night, we're now a package deal with TriStar.  If
> Sony sells TriStar, they'll be sending us along with them to their new
> owners.

        What an utterly brilliant way to say it.  Here I am, TriStar, with
my luggage packed and ready to go.... and I am *not* missing this train!

Laura

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:53:33 -0500
From:    Felicia Sparks <Felsparks@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fever and Human Factor (No Spoilers

I can get you a copy but you need to email me with your address.

Felicia Sparks
felsparks@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:53:51 -0500
From:    Felicia Sparks <Felsparks@a.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

I would stay on-what do they "catch it on reruns"-plus with all the copies
you could always talk about how you would do the episodes as opposed to how
they did them.

felicia sparks
felsparks@a.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:59:45 -0500
From:    Monica Vasquez <Monica1219@a.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

I plan to stay on

Monica,
Raventee/Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:46:10 PST
From:    Gary L Warren <garylwarren@j.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:09:23 -0800 Heather Thornburg <penni@w.......> writes:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, colin paddock wrote:
>>
>> > ok Guys(and Gals)
>> >         lets pretend that fk is canceled...How many people would stay on the
>> > mailing list...Would there even Be a mailing list? I for one would stay on
>> > the list (If It is still around...)
>> I'd stay on.  For one, just because they canciled doesn't mean we can't
>> get them to put it back on.  It happened with star trek.


Add my name to those staying on the list.  However, I may go to DIGEST before
too long.  In one less-than-24-hour period, I've accumulated more than 225
messages from FORKNI and SCRNWRIT!  Gotta cut down someway.  :?



glw

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:03:40 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Cranes for FK

>Well, I've all done with the paper cranes I promised to make--one small
>question, to whom do I send them?

Anyone who needs info on the Forever Knight Wishing Crane Project can check
out the webpage... it's still rough, but the info's all there, I think!

http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/fkcranes.html

If you don't have web access, private e-mail Bonnie (bonnie@o.......) if you
live WEST of the Mississipppi, and Viper (75052.2262@c.......) if you
live EAST of the Mississippi.  They're the Regional Coordinators for the
collection efforts.

And please, people, use 3 inch (7.5 cm) paper. We need all the cranes to be
the same size! (Sorry, Wendy!)

Diane E
FK Wishing Crane Project Coordinator
# D Echelbarger                        gryphon@e.......    #
#   WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/      #

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:34:53 -0500
From:    Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......>
Subject: LC/morality pt2

Amy writes:
<<If you won't admit to the existence of absolute evil and absolute good, I
<<will.
But then you are making the mistake of assuming that one person's belief
holds true for everyone.  I certainly wouldn't admit to something I dont
believe exists.(evil)  It may, however, exist for others, but not me.  And
that dosen't necessarily make your opinion wrong.  It just gives me a
 different perspective on the whole Nick/Nat/LC thing.

As for staying on the list, I have only been here a couple of months but I
think this is a great group, and I ain't goin nowhere!
^v^Cousin Michelle

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:21:25 -0800
From:    Denise Underwood <ithildin@i.......>
Subject: Re: Vampire Fiction/I'm staying

Wanted to add Mercedes Lackey's "Diana Tregare" novels to the list.
These particular books deal with a witch/private eye/novelist who
solves supernatural crime. Her significant other is a Vampire she meets
in one of her cases. Love at first site! There is also a song she wrote
about him, it is performed by Tempest, on an album etitled "Serrated
Edge" (Tempest is a Celtic Rock group btw)The song is "Dark Lover"
great song!

I also want to say I have every intention of staying around the list! I
have not been here long, but I have really enjoyed getting to know all
of you. It has been great, and as someone else mentioned..look at what
Star Trek fans accomplished! I am here for the long haul!

and one last thing..YNYHBWTMFKW... you are sitting at work with the
radio on, Natalaie Merchant is singing "Because the Night". You hear
the line "Love is a banquet on which we feed", causing you to start
giggling hysterically. Your boss just looks at you with a long
suffering expression and says "I dont even WANT to know"!

Denise, Ravenette with Cousinly leanings.
ithildin@i.......
"No good deed goes unpunished"

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:29:12 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: The Shawshank Approach

On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, Sharon A. Himmanen wrote:

> Me?  I just want to be a pain in the butt now.  <snip> Just because I
> don't like being ignored <again with the snipping> It's sort of like Andy
> Dupre in "The Shawshank Redemption."

That's right persistance pays off! And I am relishing the idea of making
certain TriStar execs absolutely crazy!

Speaking of whom, my sister spoke with Gary at Paragon LA again today and
he said that the aforementioned putzes at TriStar are just sending a lot of
mail their way asuming that
it is FK related...and not all of it is. They're getting stuff totally
unrelated.

> As I said to Susan last night, we're now a package deal with TriStar.  If
> Sony sells TriStar, they'll be sending us along with them to their new
> owners.  I take a perverse pleasure in that, for some reason.

I know what you mean, it does warm the cockles of my black little heart!


Alora, who is devining ways to torture TPTB in multiple fanfic.

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:15:39 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Hanging in/Debsplay

First off--even though the series will not be producing new episodes for
some time (assuming that we can and will get it back on the air eventually),
there WILL be novels from Berkley/Ace beginning January 1997.

Second--some comments about the play weekend.

* Toronto is COLD.  Really.  I don't know how you Canadians do it.  BRRRRRR.

* The play was fabulous.

* I am appalled at the number of people who don't know all of the verses to
'Fuzzy Wuzzy.'

Regards
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Get all your info for Saving Forever Knight from:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:35:21 -0500
From:    Chana Rossman <chana@b.......>
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

Cousin Colin wrote:
>lets pretend that fk is canceled...How many people would stay on the
>mailing list...Would there even Be a mailing list? I for one would stay on
>the list (If It is still around...)

Just in case your curious:
        During the span of one day, there were (at least) 32
        individual responses to this post.  (There may have been
        more -- I got a little delete happy earlier today...)
        All the posts were positive -- so, I guess we're not
        going any place!  Take that TriStar!

See what I'll do to avoid doing the work I brought home!

BTW, in compiling the data, I discovered that Cousins very
proudly identify themselves in their sigs or in their names
(ie:  Cousin Such and Such).  No other group even came close
in group unity!  Come on folks, the rest of us have to "get
with it!"

Do the cousins usually win the "wars"?

Chana
A Knightie and Nick&Natpacker


PS Hey, all you Knighties -- we got to come up with a signoff.
        Maybe male Knighties can be Sir such and such
        Female Knighties can be Lady such and such
        May not be a great idea...Someone come up with something!



chana@b.......
Help Save "Forever Knight" from cancellation! -- "Just Do It"

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:11:08 -0800
From:    Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks

Jamie's response to her SOS-FK letter:
>Sincerely,
>
>James Horvath
>Director, Human Resources

Do you suppose he's related to Gillian?  Did we just find our "in"?

Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)

But I *like* this new wrinkle in my reality.

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:57:57 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks

The thing that gets to ME is the last line in the letter.

"I wish you speedy success in your career gameplan."

I'm partially disabled.  Haven't worked in three years.  And all my time,
ALL my time, 99% of it online, is spent in some fashion that relates to
Forever Knight, and the effort to keep it alive.

And this guy at USA just wished me luck.

He know not what he sayeth...

--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>
The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N. & 13th Natpacker -- Mercenary
SFK WebGoddess -- Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:19:04 -0700
From:    Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Ger in Taming of the Shrew

Could someone please let me know the details on Ger's Shakespear
performance.  I know it's two and a half week long Shakespeare Festival in
Toronto from April 11-28th.  When is Ger's performance?  Who would one
contact for a ticket and how much does the ticket cost?

Thanx in advance,
Falcon Storm
Vaquera
satori@m.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:33:23 -0500
From:    Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine <vanguard@p.......>
Subject: Re: A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks

>The thing that gets to ME is the last line in the letter.
>
>"I wish you speedy success in your career gameplan."

Tell you what _I_ think happened.  They were noticing the campaign and your
role in it and somebody jokingly forwarded one of your messages with a
comment something like "Look at all this.  You should hire this girl."
And, bureacracy being what it is...

----  TJ

 Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine:  News of the Science Fiction Universe

                     http://www.cybervanguard.com
Come visit us, or write us at vanguard@p....... for sponsorship info

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:22:21 -0700
From:    Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Re: Staying On

I'll be staying on.  You guys are some of the nicest people I've met.

Falcon Storm
Vaquera
satori@m.......

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:23:35 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks

On Feb 20, 1996 23:33:23, 'Cyberspace Vanguard Magazine
<vanguard@p.......>' wrote:


>Tell you what _I_ think happened.  They were noticing the campaign and
your
>role in it and somebody jokingly forwarded one of your messages with a
>comment something like "Look at all this.  You should hire this girl."
>And, bureacracy being what it is...

Oh, that would be RICH.

Now I'm tempted to REALLY apply, resume and all.  USA, TriStar, Sony...
hey, I may have to be job-hunting soon; I live in New York City; I do
everything from clerical through computer through bookkeeping; there's
gotta be SOMEBODY I can infiltrate!

Any ideas?

--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>
The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N. & 13th Natpacker -- Mercenary
SFK WebGoddess -- Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 19:41:42 -0800
From:    [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On?

Chana wrote:

> Do the cousins usually win the "wars"?

Yes.

:)
[Name removed by request]

How can you trust someone who bleeds for seven days and doesn't die? - BGW

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 22:51:36 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: LIST RULES: Read Thru & Save To File

Hi, y'all; assistant listowner here.  I've been away for six days.  Didja
miss me? <g>

And yes, I had a lovely time in Toronto, and yes, the tattoo is healing
nicely, thank you very much.

Now, to business:

First of all, the rules of the FORKNI-L lists are here for everyone's
benefit.  There are really only three of them: Stay On Topic, Don't Waste
Bandwidth, and We Are Friends Here.  All the points I'm about to make are
merely variations on the theme.

Repeated violations of list rules can lead to being set nomail/nopost for a
week or longer, and I really don't want to have to do this, so READ THIS
POST, and SAVE THIS POST, and consult it as necessary, so that I don't have
to play Enforcer.  (I can't.  My fangs aren't long enough.  And I'm much
better with warm fuzzies than I am with whips and chains.  Really.)

This is not necessarily a complete summary of the list rules, just
highlights of the ones that have been broken lately.  It sounds more
complex than it is -- basically, if you stay on topic, are considerate of
your neighbors, and don't use excessive bandwidth, you're okay.

But read the rules ANYWAY.  Yes, you.  Even if you never post, and think
you'll never need them.  If you don't, I will know; and I will *haunt* you.
 I have that power. <g>

-----

1. FKSPOILR:  Subject lines on the spoiler list are NOT supposed to reveal
anything of what the episode is about!  Your subject line on FKSPOILR
should consist of:  SPOILER: Episode Title.  Anything else is risky and
potentially quite annoying to your fellow listmembers.  Annoyed listmembers
are unhappy listmembers, and unhappy listmembers complain to ME, and I have
enough e-mail, thank you. <g>

2. FKFIC-L: Is reserved for fiction ONLY.  People  who subscribe only to
the fiction list do so in order to receive fiction without extraneous
messages; other postings only inconvenience them.  All not-fiction postings
MUST be sent to FORKNI-L, no matter how 'on-topic' they might seem.

Which leads to corollary 2a: Spoiler Fiction -- should be posted to
FKFIC-L, with a subject line to the effect of: Story Title (1/1) SPOILER:
Episode Name -- and a clear warning at the top of the story as to what eps
you're spoiling.

And corollary 2b: Adult Fiction -- should carry the subject line  ADULT:
Story Title (1/1) so that people who're set to filter out adult fiction
won't get it.  And a description of how the story fits into the adult
topic, so that people know what to expect from the content.

3. No Cross Posting:  Post each message ONE time.  Posts belong either on
forkni-l, fkfic-l, or fkspoilr -- NOT on two or three of 'em.  (Yes, I know
I'm doing it.  But I'm an assistant listowner, and this is a rules post,
which means I can just *barely* get away with it.  You... can't.)

4. The Four-Line Quote Rule:  When replying to someone else's post, you may
only quote four lines of that post in your reply.  If addressing multiple
points in that post, you may quote four lines, then reply, then quote
another four lines, then reply, and so forth.  That's FOUR lines, okay?
Let's count them together: one, two, three, four.  Not eight, not six.
Four.  Okay?  (And posts that quote three lines from one person and three
from another before going into the reply are definitely pushing it.)

5.  Sig Length:  The latest word from Jaye (She Who Must Be Obeyed) is:
five (5) lines, including all text, graphics and blank space.  'Nuff said.

6.  WE ARE FRIENDS HERE:  The Forkni-L lists have always operated on a
basis of mutual respect.  If someone tells you that you have offended them,
the proper response is, "I'm sorry."  Of course, this might lead to further
discussion and debate, and perhaps an agreement to disagree -- but we do
not flame each other, we do not disrespect each other; we behave like
civilized people here, and this is not a point I should even have to
address.

This leads to corollary 6a:  I am an assistant listowner.  If you think
I've done something wrong, tell me.  If you think I am a total smeghead,
complain to me, or directly to Jaye (jap8@c.......) if you don't want to
deal with me.  You have that right; and if something's wrong, I want to
know about it.  But for as long as I am an assistant listowner, I'm going
to do my best to keep the list running smoothly; that's my job, that's what
I signed on for.  If you don't like it, tell Jaye and/or me; talking about
it amongst yourselves will do nothing to modify the situation, now, will
it?

And finally, last for now because eleven hours on a bus can really take
their toll:

7.  "Me-Too" posts:  It is normally considered improper to post merely for
the purpose of saying "Me, too".  HOWEVER, I have no intention of enforcing
this policy as far as the "I'll stay on list after cancellation too" posts.
 Right now, I think that although this is fluff, it's positive fluff, and
we all kind of need to hear that sort of affirmation.

BUT:  if you're going to post to tell us that you, too, are staying on list
come hell or high water, tell us why!  What makes the list, and the show,
important to you?  This is the kind of exchange that matters, above and
beyond mere agreement.  Tell us why you're sticking with Forever Knight and
with the forkni lists; this is what elevates a post beyond "me-too" into
the level of discussion.

And again, if you're going to quote previous posts, KEEP IT FOUR LINES OR
LESS.  Pleeeeease.

Assistant Listowner Jamie, throwing off the mantle of responsibility (and
watching it crumple into a disheveled heap on the floor, next to the
catbox) and going off to sleep, perchance to dream of a world in which
TriStar is a gentle and benevolent god, and the night truly is forever...

--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......>
The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N. & 13th Natpacker -- Mercenary
SFK WebGoddess -- Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:56:03 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Who wins the Wars....

[Name removed by request], quoting Chana:
>> Do the cousins usually win the "wars"?
>
>Yes.

Um..... [Name removed by request].... were you in the same Wars I was in?  I
can't recall a War the Cousins have *ever* won... <eg>

NatPack won War5, IMHO, and I'd say the Ravenettes did the best out of War6.

And I'm a reasonably unbiased observer, y'know. :)

Diane E
Unaffiliated, thank you!
# D Echelbarger                        gryphon@e.......    #
#   WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/      #

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Date:    Tue, 20 Feb 1996 23:03:12 -0500
From:    Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: GWD's Scots accent / Audiotapes

Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......> wrote:

TJ wrote:
>It's "Amateur Night," a 1st season ep I just watched last week.  That's all
>true (though it was a Scottish accent, and he was claiming to come from
>Edinborough)
 and Tippi wrote:
>>He shoulda consulted NB for advice on how to do Scottish accents. ;)<<

But GWD does a terrific Scots accent (and many others) on the "Hauntings: A
Classic Collection" audiotape!  I'd wager the one he does during "The Body
Snatchers" by R. L. Stevenson is an equal match to NB's or better!  Can you
say, "...of the clan Macleod"? ;D

BTW, today in the mail I got a very nice brochure from Tangled Web Audio
about their audio tapes!  Besides the aforementioned one read by GWD, there
is described also Ger's newest one, "Forebodings: American Classics", which
includes a favorite of mine, "An Occurance at Owl Creek Bridge" by Ambrose
Bierce.  The tapes will be available, the brochure says, in March 1996.
 There's also an audio book of the "Carmilla" vampire story by J. Sheridan Le
Fanu, BTW.

Actually, every single offering in the brochure looks like a winner to me!

Tangled Web information can be found at their web site at:
http://www.eidos.ca/tangled/

Um, this also is not a paid advertisement!  I've been savoring Ger's readings
in "Hauntings" and just want others to be able to enjoy them as well!
 Incidentally, Ger, to my uncultured ear, rarely sounds like Nick on the tape
- but the occasional flashes of "that" voice are cherished!  And the accents
are wonderful!

Obligatory FK note: Since I was brought across sometime in the middle of the
second season, I really look forward to discussing earlier episodes on the
list!  I've seen all the first season tapes and some of my favorite episodes
are in there.  Bring them on!

Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci@a.......
Dark Knightie / Immortal Beloved

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