There are 34 messages totalling 749 lines in this issue. Topics of the day: 1. How Many Will Stay On? (6) 2. Top Ten Lists Forever! 3. Clarification/Movie 4. Top Ten Reasons to Join the Fic-Wars 5. Oops 6. Sundry Matters--The Return 7. Deb's Performance. 8. YKY.... 9. KOQTV: Cancelled shows :-( 10. Show killers 11. A REASON to stay on the list (3) 12. Water coolers (2) 13. pass the No-Doz 14. LC/morality (2) 15. What Nat needs/Cousins 16. A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks 17. Nick's last name 18. N.B. on NBC 19. How Many Will Stay On? and vows 20. War reminder 21. Choosing Factions 22. Knightie 23. quote for Nick 24. Schanke's fantasy 25. who will stay on ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:50:41 EST From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......> Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On? Well, the listowners have already said the list would continue and I would defintely be here! Hell, I've been a Trekkie for 30 years, this is nothing!! Dotti R Knightie 4Ever ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:50:45 EST From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......> Subject: Re: Top Ten Lists Forever! Susan, Susan you almost make we want to switch - (LOL-loudly!!). But, almost!! Dotti R Knightie 4-Ever ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:50:56 EST From: Dotti Rhodes <104024.3407@c.......> Subject: Re: Clarification/Movie Iremi Wrote: "Let me make myself more clear about "I'll miss this list" post. I have no doubt this list will continue but I won't continue to be on it. When a show ends I drop it from my mind. For me there's no sense in being emotionally tied up in something that's over" That's really too bad you feel that way. If everyone felt that way there would be no Star Trek movies today or the continuation of the series (DS9, Next Generation, Voyager). It's the continuing of fandom for the original series that kept everything in TPTB minds in Paramount and eventually brought everyone back. Besides, there's more to the list than just the love of a current show. I've grown quite fond of the people involved, it's as if I'm in school again and surrounded by a bunch of friends on a daily basis leaving the real world outside. I would miss this a great deal, and refuse to give it up simply because the series is no longer on the air. Dotti R Knightie-4Ever ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 09:58:47 -0800 From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......> Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons to Join the Fic-Wars Christina K: > Oh, yeah, spammed mailboxes... there's nothing like coming home to 55 > posts in one day! (I'm serious here. It's great stuff) Alora: > Are you kidding me? I check my e-mail every few hours...and tonight (no > more than three hours after I was last on-line) I find 50+ messages...on Oh no... in wartime the fic list can average about 150 posts a day... and, of course, the non-war people suddenly decide they need to keep themselves entertained on the main &/or spoiler lists.... <vbg> (Heaven help you if you actually get mail from *anywhere* else too...! <g>) > Christina writes: > >9. Meet your faves from FK... Sandra responds: > Hey, *I* didn't *choose* to be in the Raven's wine cellar with LC. > I hate LC. Ooooooh, I dunno, Sandra. You seemed to entertain yourself pretty well in "difficult" circumstances... the aftermath of the strip poker bit comes to mind.... <snicker> You know what they say about the line between love and hate being *sooooo* thin... <vwg> > >1. Revenge. :) > > But I thought Mercs did it for the *payment*. :) Hey, there's nothing wrong with making a _comfortable_ living at revenge... Dianne "The best revenge is *charging* them for it..." <g> The Once-Again-Mad Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor ***"We ARE War 6!" -- The Magnificent Seven :-)*** Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:09:23 -0800 From: Heather Thornburg <penni@t.......> Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On? On Tue, 20 Feb 1996, colin paddock wrote: > ok Guys(and Gals) > lets pretend that fk is canceled...How many people would stay on the > mailing list...Would there even Be a mailing list? I for one would stay on > the list (If It is still around...) I'd stay on. For one, just because they canciled doesn't mean we can't get them to put it back on. It happened with star trek. Heather penni@w....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:56:24 -0800 From: Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......> Subject: Re: Oops Sherri Lynn Godsey wrote: > Reading about Jon Slan's comment that the show was always intended to be > stripped is very upsetting. Too bad one of us can't ask him if he *really* > said that and, if so, why they started out in that postion to begin with. > Enquiring fans would like to know! Gives me a sense of being jipped right > from the start. If anyone would like to see this "live", I'll go back and find the reference, and capture the article. He's directly quoted in the article. -- Lisa Reeves @-->--->--- | ad483@d....... GDFN Help Staff | Mercenary for Chocolate Save Forever Knight! Site for details: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:21:11 -0500 From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......> Subject: Sundry Matters--The Return Gang: I, for one, have *no* intentions of leaving this list. I have had entirely too much fun meeting all sorts of interesting (not to mention deranged) people. Before anyone gets out of joint about "deranged," let me say that I _like_ that in people. ;) I'd go for writing some future "virtual episodes" if we don't get season #4. That's if I can beat Real Life (tm) into temporary submission; I'm still way behind on posting fic that I am still intending to post. War #7? This summer?! Waitaminute -- War #6 ain't over yet! Let's either win this sucker, or find out that we've been . . . (ugh, I don't want to say it) defeated <ptooey!> once and for all. I don't mean that to sound negativist, but let's face it. TriStar and TPTB have obviously never intended to deal with us in good faith. Their concerns are saving their own keisters, and never mind the fact that selling FK could help them. And now for some general stuff. It's my understanding that the FK CD will come out on March 1. Contents will include the FK theme, Nightcrawler monologues, music from the Raven, and more of the virtuoso work of our own Mr. Mollin. Take a bow, Fred. Without your tireless efforts, we wouldn't have any way to get an audio FK fix. <insert virtual applause here> As a farewell, let me say that if War #7 comes in the summer, I'm ready. Or as ready as I can be. <checks to make sure ash stakes, holy water, garlic, and wide-spectrum UV sunlamps are within arm's reach> Pat -- Lone Nanette, B-Negative FoD Web Page Designer-In-Training ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 10:25:08 -0800 From: "Leslie A. Orlando" <lao@i.......> Subject: Deb's Performance. Okay, for those of us on this list who are fannishly mobility challenged, can anyone post their own review on the show and specifically Deb's performance in a _Winter's Tale_? I would be very interested in seeing what you all thought, and am sure that the rest of the list would be as well. Going back into lurk mode, and wishing that I had gone to Toronto to see the show. Baby Bat's Mommee Lee Orlando lao@i....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:24:01 -0500 From: Cal Montgomery <calm@a.......> Subject: YKY.... Even though my inbox is organised, I still tend to lose track of what comes from where (I'm only getting about 1/3 of my mail from this list, if that gives you a hint). My first response was "Yeah, right, what planet are you from?" Much much later I realised we were talking about dogs. ------------------ I think that one needs to be careful with sticks and balls. For example, Cheeva, my first dog could play with them, Bffy could play with them, Rascal could not. Nick could play with anything and not ate it up. ------------------ Cal ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:27:51 -0500 From: Chana Rossman <chana@b.......> Subject: Re: KOQTV: Cancelled shows :-( >Yes! Yes! I have been uncovered--hey, that liveless wind is cold. I am >on the verge of giving up TV period. >Barbara Forget tv -- nah! But since they ("the powers that be") keep cancelling the tv shows I like, I am devising a new plan. I'm going to write to the producers of Friends and Mad About You and tell them either start sending me cash or I'm going to start watching their shows. And since ever show I like gets cancelled -- ohhh, BACKMAIL! Chana chana@b....... Help Save "Forever Knight" from cancellation! -- "Just Do It" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:41:40 EST From: Lisa <D020214@u.......> Subject: Show killers H'mm, I'm another viewer who seems to kill off the shows I like. What if we organized a roster to watch USA non-stop as revenge? :) We might extend it to TriStar, too. <evil, cousinly grin> Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble." Lisa McDavid mcdavid-lisa@s....... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 13:46:01 -0500 From: Chana Rossman <chana@b.......> Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list TJ and Sorcha >What do we like to discuss? New episodes. Who says we need TriStar to >honor us with them? I say we do it ourselves...Sorcha and I would like >to volunteer to start up a committee to select one script per week to >"air" as that week's story. We then have new material -- the SAME >material -- to discuss. Cool idea. (Heck -- I'm one who checks at Waldenbooks every time I go in just to see if anyone has published an FK novel yet. I know they haven't, but I keep hoping...) I'm not much of a writer, and there are others who are much more knowledable about the show, but I love reading -- I'll help if I can figure out how... Chana chana@b....... Help Save "Forever Knight" from cancellation! -- "Just Do It" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:24:16 -0500 From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......> Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On? I will be on the lists for as long as there are lists; and I will continue with this fandom, period. I've seen just enough of this world to know that what we have here is exceedingly rare. For some unknown reason, this particular show has brought together a really incredible group of people; and that taken together, the show and the people and the bonds that link us all together are a truly amazing thing. No matter what happens with the cancellation, I will stick with the SOSFK thing for as long as there is the remotest glimmer of hope for ANY sort of continuation of Forever Knight; and quite probably afterwards. I don't know why, I don't know how, but I feel a very strong conviction that ***this story is not yet over***. The story of Forever Knight, after all, isn't just the story of Nick et al.; just as depicted in the FKFIC wars, and as chronicled by our listposts and quote lists and fiction, it is the story of EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US. And that story cannot end; not as long as there are hearts that keep the dream and the spirit alive, and who care about the other souls who feel the same way. I am proud and honored and touched to the core to be one of the 'writers' of that story, as indeed we all are, in our individual ways: the FK story is our story, our history and our future, for the friendships we share have grown beyond the narrow confines of a single shared interest. We are more to each other than merely 'fellow fans'; I don't know how that happened, but it is an incredible, wonderful thing to behold. This isn't just a mailing list, damn it, it's a *community*; it's a warm cozy place where we gather and talk about things that no one else would understand, debate and giggle, occasionally argue, and otherwise share quality family time with each other. I'm here for the duration, and beyond. And I hope that the rest of you will stay here and hang out with me. -- KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. <immajer@p.......> The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N. & 13th Natpacker -- Mercenary SFK WebGoddess -- Asst. Listowner, FORKNI-L/FKFIC-L/FKSPOILR http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:04:26 -0500 From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......> Subject: Water coolers Idalia Kakesako <IdaliaK@p.......> said: > Okay, would one of you lovely listfolk please tell me > what in the world you're talking about re: the hapless > Captain and his agua problem? Is this another infamous > war reference, or is it from an episode? If it only happened in one episode, we wouldn't be talking about it! But if you go back and watch the first half of the season, it seems like in *every* episode Reese walks up to the water cooler, takes a paper cup, tries to get water out of the cooler, fails, crushes the cup, and throws it away. All this while talking to someone else, so you wouldn't think it was important if it didn't happen again and again and again.... I haven't seen him do this in the last few episodes -- has he given up on getting a drink, or did they fix the water cooler? All of this is probably Blu Mankuma's silliness shining through. I know that if I ever met the actor, my first question to him would be, "Can I get you a cup of water?" :) * Allison Percy, a perky Knightie percy91@w....... * * __o -- Have angst, will travel -- * * _`\<,_ Now planning the Forever Knight charity bike tour! * * (*)/ (*) see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:07:30 -0500 From: Mary Dutterer <Vulkurt@a.......> Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On? Count me in. Vulkurt@a....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:38:55 -0500 From: "(sp?) Diane Rayno" <LuDia@a.......> Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On? Cousin Colin said> ok Guys(and Gals) >lets pretend that fk is canceled...How many people would stay on the >mailing list...Would there even Be a mailing list? I for one would stay on >the list (If It is still around...) ***Perish the thought*** At the risk of being called one of those people who say me too, ME TOO!! I will be one of those still around...... (sorry I can't repeat what he said) Cousin Lu - The Multi Studded One Cousin@Heart, Immortal Beloved Vamp@Byte, Valentine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:55:38 -0500 From: Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......> Subject: pass the No-Doz Sherri writes: (re: Ger) << I think he looks tired <<because he *is* tired, and probably depressed as well.>> I didn't get the impression from the Ger chat that he was depressed at all. Actually he seemed pretty happy with the prospect of moving on to other projects. I believe he stated morale on the set was just fine. The actors *do* have other irons in the fire. Ger and all the other characters on FK are *actors*. An actor plays many roles, and they all have to end sooner or later (Unless you're William Shatner and doomed to be Capt. Kirk forever). They move on. It's part of life. I guess the 16 hr days are just getting to him like they would anyone else, hence the frumpy look. But I dont think sleep deprivation = depression over the ending of the series. IMO. Cousin Michelle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:55:50 -0500 From: Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......> Subject: LC/morality <<Nat may work in a morgue, but she has always struck me as someone who has a leaning to moral "goodness". Their outlooks are quite different.>> Wait! Isn't morality a matter of perspective? Just what exactly is "moral goodness"? I don't think LC is immoral or evil, just marching to the beat of a different drum. His value system may be different than Nat's but that dosent make him evil and her good. I think LC has many redeemable qualities. I also think his intentions are frequently misunderstood. Stubborn?-yes. Selfish?-most of the time. A hedonist?-most definitely. Evil?? I dont think so. ( IMNSHCO ) I don't think there is such a thing as evil. I think there is only good and absence of good, and neither are absolutes. So, maybe you could say LC is a little less good than Nick or Nat. I'd probably agree to that....but I *like* him bad!!! Cousin Michelle/existentialist extraordinaire ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:56:04 -0500 From: Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......> Subject: What Nat needs/Cousins <<7. Knighties need Prozac; Vaqueros need a haircut; NatPackers need... okay, can't think of anything right now... A good stiff one....and I don't mean a highball. (can I say that on this list? too late!) <<If you *are* a Cousin, Uncle *has* you! Now, you don't want that to happen, do you?... > YES!! Think of the possibilities...(since this isn't JADFE, i'll let you use your imaginations, and I *know* you have them!) Cousin Michelle/feeling wicked today ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 11:43:09 -0800 From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......> Subject: Re: A Valentine's Day Note From USA Networks > Mr. Jamie M. Randell ... > Your resume was forwarded to me by Kay Koplovitz, Founder, Chairman & CEO ... > I assure you we will put you in our active file and when the right > opportunity unfolds, we will contact you and inquire as to your status. Oooooh! Let me know when they do, dear. I have some serious plans for our dearest "Mr. Randell"! (Can you say "insider sabotage"??? :-) Dianne Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> The Mad SOS-FK Digester -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor KoQTV -*- FoFoD -*- FKLPL -*- Crane-folder-in-training... (Not planning on going anywhere, regardless...! :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:26:15 -0800 From: Amy R. <r.......@w.......> Subject: Re: LC/morality Cousin Michelle said: >I don't think LC is immoral or evil... His value system may be different than Nat's but that doesn't make him evil and her good.> If you won't admit to the existence of absolute evil and absolute good, I will. And, more to the point (of the NatVamp stuff that I think started all of this) I believe Nat would too. Of course we all like LC evil; a hero is no more than his greatest foe... but in Nat's mind she is good and LC is evil and Nick is the pilgrim soul between them. *************** Amy R. r.......@w....... Knightie-in-training, stubborn Nevermore, manifesting Natpack tendencies ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:37:36 -0800 From: Amy R. <r.......@w.......> Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On? When I graduate in May, I will lose my email-box. (Knock on wood that I get accepted to grad school -- Yale, Chapel Hill, Madison, or Boulder -- with the bonus of net access!) But if I have to lurk from the digested shadows of a friend's account, or even just pop in occasionally from the public library's terminals, I will be back. I WILL NOT lose this thoughtful, compassionate, funny (thanks, Tippi!), and just generally marvelous community so soon after discovering it! Do you all realize quite how great you are? *************** Amy R. r.......@w....... (Knightie-in-training) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:47:17 -0500 From: Ray Heuer <RayHeuer@a.......> Subject: Re: Nick's last name Sandra Gray writes: >If you're thinking about first season's Spin Doctor (snip) That's the one. But apparently I remembered the name wrong. -- Ray Rage! Rage! Against the dying of the Knight! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:46:51 EST From: Mary Anne Espenshade <mae@a.......> Subject: Re: N.B. on NBC Jackie <ejdjd@i.......> wrote: >>BTW, Dale Midkiff <pant,pant> starred in the movie. He was the one who >>played Darian Lambert in Time Trax I watched this movie for him too, and was very surprised to find out Nigel was in it. All the early warning systems failed on this one :-) > OBFK...can it be? Nat and Darian are related?? In the future?? Someone wrote a story to that effect. I read it on the FK fiction web site, look under cross universe. Unfortunately, it doesn't really work in the Time Trax universe, because children chose their own last names on reaching adulthood. -- Mary Anne Espenshade mae@a....... "I worked late on my birthday and nobody brought ME a cute vampire!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 14:03:17 -0700 From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......> Subject: Re: How Many Will Stay On? and vows Been lurking for a change and wanted to reply. I will be here as long as I can. Hopefully I will be getting my own home computer and then will continue being with the list for however long I can :) You all are great! RE: Vows - Remember I vowed to lose 20 lbs and give up Pepsi for continuation of FK? Well, guess what?! I lost my 20 lbs and haven't touched Pepsi! See? I kept up my part! Dieing for more FK and a Pepsi, Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie ** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i....... more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:02:54 -0400 From: Siobhan <HYPATIA@d.......> Subject: War reminder >From all the enthusiastic messages of late, it looks like the next war is going to be a big one. So, may I make a small request on behalf of those who do *not* choose to receive the war posts? Please be sure the first word in your war post subject line is WAR: ^ and that colon is ESSENTIAL, btw! That way, those of us who have gone to the trouble of setting our subscription options on FKFIC-L to "no-war" don't have to deal with the mis-labeled posts. Many, many TIA's Siobhan hypatia@d....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:04:48 -0500 From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......> Subject: Re: Water coolers A >If it only happened in one episode, we wouldn't be talking about >it! But if you go back and watch the first half of the season, it >seems like in *every* episode Reese walks up to the water cooler, >takes a paper cup, tries to get water out of the cooler, fails, >crushes the cup, and throws it away. All this while talking to >someone else, so you wouldn't think it was important if it didn't >happen again and again and again.... > In Black Budda, Didn't Reese say something obout the cooler while taking to nick...? CP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:05:50 -0500 From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......> Subject: Re: Choosing Factions At 08:36 AM 02/20/1996 -0500, you wrote: > > >Barbara wrote: > >>Reasons? I thought much of the mystique of being a cousin is that cousins >>"don't have to have no stinking reasons." When people ask they curl a >>lip and walk on. > Cousins can have reasons, they just don't have to tell what they are CP ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:13:57 -0500 From: colin paddock <Claudius@n.......> Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list > >Sorcha and I would like to volunteer to start up a committee to select one >script per week to "air" as that week's story. We then have new material >-- the SAME material -- to discuss. But what about Cross-Overs with the X-files and Highlander? Would there be a madatory number of words in each story? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:09:03 -0500 From: Robbi Egersdorf <egersdor@m.......> Subject: Re: Knightie Now I know I'm a Knightie. Sign Me up! angst is my middle name. I like angst. What's wrong with angst That's why I like Nick so much. He's dripping with angst. (there i did it-used a word i never heard of before i subscribed to this list. who says you can't learn anything from this list? This war sounds fun and I've been hearing about it a lot. When does it happen? "As alway, when you have a friend in the Nightcrawler - who needs enemies??" LC in NiQ wooooo!! now that's scary!! Robbi (newbie Knightie) egersdor@m....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 13:23:20 -0800 From: Valery King <kingv@u.......> Subject: quote for Nick I went to see "Muppet Treasure Island" Sunday (what can I say, I've got this thing for Tim Curry and felt frogs <g>) and I just know I've been watching too much FK because, when I heard this, I immediately thought of Nick: First Mate (Sam the Eagle), speaking about his captain: "He is a raging volcano, tormented by demons no mere mortal can understand." Gonzo: "He's got *demons*???? Cool!" --Valery kingv@u....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 16:30:43 -0500 From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......> Subject: Re: Schanke's fantasy On Sat, 17 Feb 1996, Lynne Levine wrote: > "Playboy" is a young woman dressed in a school-girl uniform, complete > with plaid skirt. I saw that and squealed "oh my god -- It's Schanke's > fantasy!!!!!" I'm sorry, but I just don't see this as Schanke's fantasy. It sounds entirely too much like Jenny to me. Isn't Jenny about 11? I think that Schanke's fantasy woman is someone like Janette. Totally different from anyone in his life, but someone who it would be fun to fantazize having sex with. Wild, dangerous, but not a fantasy that Schanke would really like to have come true. |---- Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i....... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 12:59:28 -0800 From: Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......> Subject: Re: A REASON to stay on the list At 10:46 AM 2/19/96, Chana Rossman wrote: >(Heck -- I'm one who checks at Waldenbooks every time >I go in just to see if anyone has published an FK novel yet. I know >they haven't, but I keep hoping...) I can't say much but--they will. Promise. Elizabeth elewis@u.......***Lizbetann@a....... Ravenette of the New Order Knightie/NatPacker/N&N Packer with Cousinly Sympathies and faint leanings towards Vanquira-ism "Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be Listowner, Middle Ages Life http://members.aol.com/Lizbetann/mypage.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:34:10 -0500 From: Robbi Egersdorf <egersdor@m.......> Subject: Re: who will stay on sniff. Right on Jamie!! I'm with you!! Robbi (Newbie Knightie and I love it!) egersdor@m....... ------------------------------ End of FORKNI-L Digest - 20 Feb 1996 ************************************
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