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Digest - 19 Feb 1996 - Special issue

Mon, 19 Feb 1996

There are 30 messages totalling 1015 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Valentines (3)
  2. Eastern WA, North ID
  3. Nat as a Vamp (3)
  4. vamps and religious history
  5. Your opinion on a Letter
  6. Knightie Top Ten List
  7. Deb's play
  8. The Top Ten returns!
  9. Folding paper for FK!
 10. Top Ten Reasons to Become A Vaquero
 11. rights?
 12. Nick's hair
 13. Natpackers, Quotes, Scrunchies, & other things
 14. Nick's last name
 15. SOS-FK Commercial <again> (2)
 16. The whole Nat-Lacroix thang
 17. N.B. on NBC
 18. YKYB and Fan Fic Contest Question
 19. Repost: Sony execs update
 20. Sick of Top Tens yet?
 21. Choosing Factions
 22. About those Sony Postcards
 23. A Better Pairing
 24. Good idea /vampire lit.
 25. Top Ten Lists

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:01:03 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Valentines

I have some comments and questions for those of you who want Nat and
LC to get together.  Nat has been shown urging Nick to do the moral or
"good" thing (or at least express displeasure when he fails to do so).
LC has shown that he doesn't value human morality, that he won't
hesitate to kill mortals if necessary.  Since it's doubtful that LC
will change, don't you think Nat would have to make a radical change in
her thinking in order to be happy with LC?  If she didn't, wouldn't she
and LC simply be at loggerheads all the time (which would soon drive LC
away since he expects those he cares about to embrace his outlook)?  Do
you think Nat would "reform" LC?  Or do you think Nat would instead lose
her own principles?  Or is Nat one of those people who is only "moral"
because she is human and would really be "amoral" if she was made a
vampire?  If Nat agreed with LC's viewpoint and became amoral, would she
then be a very different character?

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:08:30 -0800
From:    Amy R. <r.......@w.......>
Subject: Re: Eastern WA, North ID

Ooops. In my original message, I misnamed our local syndie: KAYU.
Wouldn't want to offend anybody, even if they are pre-empting FK for
boxing *again*.... *************** Amy R. r.......@w.......

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:07:44 -0500
From:    Marc Ducorsky <mducorsk@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nat as a Vamp

        About Nat being a vampire.  She conciders vampirism to ba a
virus/disease not a curse.  Nat has also manages a few short term cures
that she can modify to allow her to enkoy food once in a while or to go
out in the sun (The fix).

                                                Marc

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:14:38 -0500
From:    Marc Ducorsky <mducorsk@e.......>
Subject: Re: Nat as a Vamp

oooooooops!!!!!

I have a spelling mistake in my last post.  Nat would ENJOY not ENKOY food.


                                                Marc

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:27:23 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: vamps and religious history

On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Jason Ryan wrote:

>
>         What about the vampires brought across before christianity?  It
> makes you think that mayby they could have witnessed the death of
> Jesus (if in fact you believe in it).


        Historically, isn't it fairly clear there was a Jesus of Nazareth
and he did die at the hands of the Romans?  So that's not an issue of
belief, right?

        Most of the main events happened in the daytime, so the vampires
wouldn't have been around.  Maybe for the stone rolling away from the
tomb as the guards slept... in fact, that would explain the guards
falling asleep against orders... someone else is gonna hafta write this
one, though.  It gives me the giggles.

        Many, many moons ago, someone called Shirley Maiewski wrote a Star
Trek fan novel on this theme in which Christ died in Spock's arms. (I am
*not* making this up.)  It was called "Proof Positive," and provoked an
incredibly funny satire by the Kalamazoo gang (Phil Foglio et al.) called
"100 Proof Positive."

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:42:43 -0600
From:    Fire And Life Incarnate <NSHEA4371@a.......>
Subject: Re: Your opinion on a Letter

Date sent:  19-FEB-1996

>
>I have written a letter to Ms. Onoyoma of Sony USA.  Would you please do me
>the honor of proofreading it?  The letter will be sent with a "King Cake" -
>a Southern confection specially made for the holiday preceding Easter (Mardi
>Gras).

I was very impressed by your letter.  It was polite, deferential, and
well written (can you tell I'm an eng. ed. major?).  I am also in my
second semester of Japanese at NSU.  A King Cake?  Great idea!  My
Japanese teacher, Kakuta-sensei, loved the one we brought to class
last week.  Kayla, I am in awe! Way to go.  My hat (if I wore one,
that is) is off to you.

Could someone repost the entire list of Sony execs?  Someone
accidentally deleted my mail directory and I lost it.  :-(

Later!
Dark Phoenix
NSHEA4371@a.......

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:10:34 -0800
From:    Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Knightie Top Ten List

The Top Ten reasons to become a Knightie:

10 -- You get to feel guilty for envying Vachon's success with in bringing
over vampire "children"

 9 -- You get to feel guilty for wanting Nat brought across against her wishes

 8 -- You get to feel guilty about eagerly awaiting the Nightcrawler
monologues in each episode

 7 -- You get to feel gulity for what did or didn't happen, for what should
or shouldn't have happened in HF

 6 -- You get to feel guilty for trying to like Tracy

 5 -- You get to feel guilty for not wanting Reese to ever get water out of
that damned cooler.

 4 -- You get to feel guilty for missing Vachon in these last few episodes.

 3 -- You get to feel guilty for wanting Schanke and Janet (um, Janette) to
have gotten it on

 2 -- You get to feel guilty for liking that Urs is even more depressed than
Nick

And, the number one reason for wanting to be a Knightie:

 1 -- You get to feel guilty for thinking that LaCroix is right more often
than not.


There's just so much pressure in being a Knightie, or even a Cousin.  Give
the Vaqueras a try -- we're low stress all the way.


Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)

But I *like* this new wrinkle in my reality.

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:08:44 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: Valentines

I think that one of Nat's *biggest* (but by no means *only*) grievence
with Nick isn't as much his behavior, but that is runs counter to
everything he *says* he wants.

Don't get me wrong, I think that she definately has a problem with the
killing, but I think her *biggest* problem is with Nick's waffling.
Backsliding is inevitable, but he seems unable to decide anymore if
mortality is really what he wants. But he won't call off the search and
return to the fold; instead he (and by virtue of that fact, she, as well)
finds himself in perpetual limbo.---And I think that makes her crazier
than anything else.

All his "Yes I want it, but no I'm not going to stick with it" stuff
would make me crazy too.

LC, on the other hand, even though she doesn't like want he stands for,
she at least knows *where* she stands. Not only that, he is a challenge
in a completely different way than Nick.

Not that I am a Valentine, but as a Natpacker who would like to see Nick
(or even someone else) bring Nat accross, I think that Nat and LC could
go head-to-head in a way that Nick and LC never could...of course it
would first be necessary to level the playing field. And the only way to
do that would be to make Nat a vampire.

And like I said before, maybe all she and Nick need is a little time to
really be together and then she could get him out of her system and move
on...by that time LC could be just the sparring partner she needs.

Just my not-so-humble opinion.

Alora...who, all things being equal, would put her money on Nat.
<acc0924@i.......>

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:40:33 -0500
From:    AC Chapin <sdragon@g.......>
Subject: Re: Valentines

On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Sandra Gray wrote:

> will change, don't you think Nat would have to make a radical change in
> her thinking in order to be happy with LC?  If she didn't, wouldn't she
> and LC simply be at loggerheads all the time (which would soon drive LC
> away since he expects those he cares about to embrace his outlook)?  Do
> you think Nat would "reform" LC?

I think that Nat and LaCroix could be very happy together as they are.
Both of them are mature enough that they would have to change, or be
changed by, each other.  And both of them are strong enough not to be
"reformed" anyway.

> If she didn't, wouldn't she
> and LC simply be at loggerheads all the time (which would soon drive LC
> away since he expects those he cares about to embrace his outlook)?

huh?  LaCroix has been faced by someone he cares about not embracing his
outlook for centuries now, and it certainly hasn't driven him away,
quite the opposite, in fact.  It's Nick who runs away because LaCroix won't
share Nick's views.  This is exactly who I think LaCroix and Nat are
made for each other.

I think Natalie has proved pretty conclusively that she has the loyalty
and the stick-to-it-iveness to stay with someone she doesn't necessarily
agree with, someone she may fight with all the time, just because she
cares.  And that's just what LaCroix needs.  And, Natalie certainly
deserves to finally have somebody who can be completely interested in
her, who won't pull away.


AC Chapin     sdragon@g.......      http://www.glue.umd.edu/~sdragon
        ...lonely goatherds unite...

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:36:56 -0800
From:    Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Nat as a Vamp

>Who's to say that if Nat became a vamp she would *want* to find her
>and Nick a way to go back to being mortal?  She could get just as
>enchanted with the power and immortality as others who have been
>brought over, or embrace the bloodlust.

And isn't this exactly what Nick is afraid of, especially considering his
track record with "children."  Nick always expects his "kids" to have the
same morality as he does, but he forgets that it took him how many hundreds
of years to want to change?  He forgets what it was like early on, to have
the cravings and urges be so strong.  Take Richard, for example, he wasn't
really an evil vampire -- he killed only the bad guys after all -- but he
was drunk on the new found powers.  Nick could have tried to lead him, but
he was just too guilty about having brought Richard over in the first place
to be affective.

Nat would definately rebel if LaCroix were to bring her across.  She'd be
pissed and may even try to take it out on him and end up getting herself staked.

Vachon is definately the right choice to bring Nat across.  He's there for a
bit of friendly advice, but all in all he lets you be.  Besides, she's
definately got the hair to be a Vaquera.


Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)

But I *like* this new wrinkle in my reality.

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 16:39:05 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Deb's play

Hi,
To anyone who saw Geb in A Winter's Tale, did she play Perdita or
Hermione. This is probably a stupid question.



Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 23:24:21 GMT
From:    Tammy Williams <sackett@u.......>
Subject: Re: The Top Ten returns!

On Feb 19, 1996 12:43:28, 'Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>' wrote:
>I'm addicted.  I can't stop writing these.  Someone help!  Argh!

No, we won't help - we want more!  BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

>The Top Ten Things You Won't See (But Might Like To See) in the Season's
Last
>Episode:
>10.  Lacroix in green suede leiderhosen singing "Eidleweiss" with the Von
>Trap children.

As long as he eats his dinner after playing with it.

>7.  Nat finds the "cure" and it turns out to be watching Barney and Friends
>until the "beast within" runs screaming for the door.

Let's see - how long would this take - about a half a second!

>(Other candidates included: Tracy becomes the son her daddy always wanted.


ROTFL!!!!

> Janette goes into business inventing the stake-proof Wonderbra.)

Would it be one of those pointy-tipped bullet bras like Madonna wears?!?

>Enjoy!

Cousins always enjoy!
--

Tammy Williams  - MFW / Cousin /
assistant FW for Joe, Connor, and Kalas
sackett@u.......
My life is the product of a diseased mind and I love it.

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 17:36:25 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Folding paper for FK!

>Lynn McAlpine brought up a good point:
>>...there are a *lot* of us out here, not just one crane-folding-fanatic!<<
>I think that the crane folders should include a short note saying that they
>contributed and their signature,

Look, ma, four lines! <G>

Viper-- I'm going to make an assumption-- your parents are Japanese born? If
they are, do you think they'd be willing to write "We wish for a fourth season
of Forever Knight" (or the appropriate equivalent) on a long paper streamer?
We could then make that the centerpiece of the mobile (I've seen similar
things before) and add the names of everyone who contributed (in English) on
the end of the streamer.....

Anybody object to this idea?

Sharon Himmanen asked:
>Could someone explain the mobile part of this?

According to Viper (who asked his parents) for the 'wish' to work, you have to
string the 1000 cranes into a giant mobile. Otherwise, you don't get your
wish.

And as for 'where to ship':

Viper is in New Jersey.  Bonnie is on the west coast (I believe). So, if you
live EAST of the Mississippi, e-mail Viper (off list!) for his address.  If
you live WEST of the Mississippi, e-mail Bonnie for *her* address.

I've had lots and lots of responses, so I'm confident we can get *at least*
2000 cranes together for two mobiles.

Will the people who are keeping AOL and Prodigy (CIS contact has already
contacted me) and any other services I've forgotten informed, please private
e-mail me, so I can send you a "Fourth Season Wishing Cranes" post to put up
there?

Thanks!

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                        gryphon@e.......    #
#   WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/      #

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 15:43:39 -0800
From:    Cousin Cherri <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: Top Ten Reasons to Become A Vaquero

Torrrrrrreeeeeyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>6.     You get to glue cousins into cow costumes< He he >

    <grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr>

  YOU are digging a bigger and bigger hole.  <VWG>

  They don't call me a cousin for nothing. Bwahahahahahahaha!

 <Off to Transfer this post to the War Materials Mailbox>  ;) ;)

           Cousin Cherri



"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......> FK Optimist's Club,  Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
      Save FOREVER KNIGHT!                       NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
      http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:16:15 -0330
From:    Ngaire Genge <ngenge@n.......>
Subject: Re: rights?

On Sun, 18 Feb 1996, Lisa Reeves wrote:

> I saw Nick reading someone his rights....but this is in Toronto, right? Do
> the Miranda rights also exist in Canada? Or is this a plot hole?

The Miranda case was a US decision and has no bearing on Canadian law,
however, Canadian citizens, under their own laws must also be informed of
any constitutional rights pertinent to their situation, in fact, just
questioning a Canadian citizen usually requires the spiel.

Cheers,
Ngaire

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 18:27:56 -0600
From:    Kayla Clark <katygale@i.......>
Subject: Nick's hair

At 04:54 PM 2/19/96 -0500, Lisa Knust, Knightie, wrote:
>        And just a question- What is up with Ger in the past few eps.  Is
>it his hair or something that makes him look tired & grumpy?  Something
>just seems different.

I cannot stand the way his hair has been looking!  What is with their makeup
people right now?!  They're spending way too much time whitening Uncle's
hair and darkening his eyebrows and not nearly enough time giving Nickie-boy
a decent shave, cut and style.

"Cousin" Kayla  E-me at katygale@i......., katygale@a.......
(To make sure I catch your message out of the hundreds
of list posts, please put PERS in the Subject)
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exigency of the times."
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July 15, 1777

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:56:47 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Natpackers, Quotes, Scrunchies, & other things

I have Natalie on my mind today.  I'm still not a Natpacker, but I
finally had a chance to watch "Undue Process" last night.  This is the
episode for which Catherine Disher has been nominated for a Gemini award,
right?  Anyway, she was terrific.  I cried.  So the first half of post is
dedicated to you Natpackers out there.

For Jamie MR, the Webgoddess and Queen of the Warm Fuzzies (are you back
from Toronto yet?):  I found a quote for your .sig file, or a T-shirt, or
a button, which was just *destined* for you.  It's from the second season
episode "Father's Day."

  Natalie (in a tone of mock disgust):
  "Oh, oh, please, you're making me feel all warm and fuzzy inside."

You'll just have to go back and watch the episode to get the context. <g>

For Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......>, who asked:
> What's up with Natalie's hair? ....
> The latter part of the 3rd season it's been down, and hanging in her
> face. Literally. That would bug me even if I wasn't digging in gunk.

The problem is that in the second season episode "Capital Offense,"
Natalie dropped a hair scrunchie (hers?) down the drain at the morgue.
I guess she hasn't had a chance to wash it yet.  Or she just decided the
risk of repeated scrunchie-clogs in the drains was too great.  ;^)

Did I spell "scrunchie" right?  *Is* there even a correct way to spell
"scrunchie"??


On a completely different note, here's a few possible additions to the
list of Top Ten Reasons to Be a Knightie:

 - Big screen television
 - Angst.  Lots of angst.  You can even angst about the fact that
   you spend so much time angsting.
 - No one expects you to exert any self control whatsoever
 - "Dogpile on Nick!"  (the obligatory War 5 reference....)

Well, the list would go on, but most of the remaining reasons have to do
with how great Nick looks when he furrows his brow, looks guilty, grins,
smiles sadly, wakes up sweating blood, gets lost in a flashback while
driving, vamps out, de-vamps, opens the blinds during the daytime and
broods while staring at the rays of sunlight, tries to stop himself from
guzzling a bottle-o-blood and (of course) fails, tries to stop himself
from chomping on someone's neck and (barely) succeeds, gets that
incredibly sad look in his eyes that just makes you want to cry.....

Somebody stop me... Please....

* Allison Percy, Knightie                   percy91@w.......           *
* "Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never -- in      *
*  nothing, great or small, large or petty -- never give in except to  *
*  convictions of honor and good sense."  Sir Winston Churchill, 1941  *

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:58:33 -0500
From:    Ray Heuer <RayHeuer@a.......>
Subject: Re: Nick's last name

Sandra Gray wrote:

>our three vamps usually keep their first names (or some version of it) and
change their
>last names.

     I may be wrong (I frequently am), but wasn't Nick's character in the
blacklist ep called Professor Nicholas?

  --  Ray

     Rage!  Rage!  Against the dying of the Knight!

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:30:23 -0500
From:    "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: Re: SOS-FK Commercial <again>

Well, Kira spent an incredibley frustrating and unconstructive day trying
to reach Laura Polley in the Paragon legal department in Toronto (I'll be
glad to be 3000 miles away when my father gets *that* phone bill ;) ), to
no avail. She said she called 7 times, each time emphasizing that it was
imparative that she speak with Ms. Polley TODAY, and at the end of the
day she called again and was told that she had gone home.

So we are currently operating under the premise that TriStar owns all
rights to everything FK and that we are not going to be able to use clips
in the commercial (I think I already might have posted that).

Colin has offered use of his printer so we can get a good copy of Jamie's
Web Site. Thank you Colin.

Oh, Jamie, I don't have your e-mail address on hand, can you please
e-mail me privately...I need explicit permission to use your Web Site in
the commercial. Thanks.

So far I have had pledges for approx. $150 dollars, thank you to
everyone. So far my sister and I have managed to scrounge up another
$200, so we are shooting for the 2 Highlander/2 FK package at KOFY, even
though it is pretty pricey. We'll also go for probably two spots at the
Santa Rosa station (they cover seven counties).

Also, the responses I've gotten about local syndies have contained a few
questions I think everyone probably needs to know, so when looking into
getting air time, Kira needs to know the following (and she needs to know
it soon):

1. Call letters and channel
2. Station address and phone number
3. FK air time
4. if there is any local (or semi-local) number people can call to get
more SOS info.
5. She needs to know what size tape the station operates on, standard one
inch, or three-quarter (most run on standard, but there may be the
occasional odd-ball that uses 3/4).

When it comes to local syndies someone in the area is going to have to
handle this. Kira can FedEx you the tape, but you have to make
arrangements with the station. Find out the costs, take it in for them to
pre-view, the whole nine yards.

Kira is going to have voice mail hooked up this week on our line, so we
will have a Bay Area number, but unfortunately there are over half a
dozen area codes in the greater San Franisco area so it is going to be
long distance for some paople no matter what.

Tami has also graciously volunteered her faxing services should we need them.

Other than that, Kira also wanted me to pass on that during her meeting
with the local syndie last week, the manager emphasized the importance of
maintaining pressure on the sponsors, especially the national ones.

Well, I guess that is all for now...with all of this, I don't feel much
like a newbie anymore.

As usual, any questions, comments, suggestions, pledges (*only* if yo've
already contributed to Laurie), you can e-mail me privately.

Alora (and Kira) <acc0924@i.......>
The Chistiakoff sisters: raising hell where ever we go...

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:43:47 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: The whole Nat-Lacroix thang

My two cents (or buck-fifty, depending on how ya count it) on the matter:  A
NL/LC union would be a heck of a lot like the NK/LC union.  (I'm not using
the "/" to mean "slash" in this case!)

I think Nat and Lacroix would make a great Daughter/Father pair for the same
reason that Nick and Lacroix make a great Son/Father pair.  Everyone involved
needs a challenge.  Yes?  Nick: he needs the challenges of becoming mortal
again as well as the challenge Lacroix constantly presents.  Nat: she needs
the challenge of turning Nick into a mortal again.  Lacroix: he needs the
challenge of making Nick see things his way.  In other words, all three of
these characters need *impossible* goals.  They're at their best when they're
fighting the odds.  Sick, ain't it?  None of these folks are content with
mastering badminton or gourmet cooking.  Noooo, they want to do the
impossible, dream the undreamable!

If Lacroix brings good ol Nat across, she'll be the kind of child that Nick
is.  She'll fight him and he'll love her for it (tho' he won't admit it).
 Janette always seemed to me to be more a sister to Lacroix than a daughter,
even though she was his "offspring".  She didn't have the big conflicts with
him that Nick did.

I'm not looking forward to Nick bringing Nat across.  Jeez, talk about the
ultimate Angst Fest!

Nat: "Nick, how could you *do* this to me?"
Nick: "Nat, I'm so sorry..."
Nat: "I'm sorry too."
Nick: "And I'm sorry that you're sorry..."

Bleh!  They'd spend all eternity sobbing.  Of course, I'm still holding on to
the lingering hope that Nat will either "get thee to a nunnery" or join a
riot grrrl band.  So what kind of authority am I?? ;)

Wicked Cousin Tippi

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:02:28 -0800
From:    Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: SOS-FK Commercial <again>

At 11:27 PM 2/18/96 -0500, you wrote:
>>Instead is there anybody with a high quality printer who can print up a
>>copy of Jamie's web page and mail it to Kira ASAP?

        I have a Cannon BJC-610 color printer; I'm in NYS (LI actually); can
I help?

P.S.
My daughter's name is Kyra (Greek for sunshine, I believe?)
I almost fell over first reading your sister's name!

Jackie

Support your local Attorney...Send your kid to Medical School!

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:02:30 -0800
From:    Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: N.B. on NBC

At 11:43 PM 2/18/96 -0500, you wrote:

>BTW, Dale Midkiff <pant,pant> starred in the movie.  He was the one who
>played Darian Lambert in Time Trax, for those of you who remember that show.

        That was the very first show I ever mourned the loss of!  Loved him,
Selma, his advanced powers (can't this jet go any faster?) :)

        OBFK...can it be?  Nat and Darrian are related?? In the future??

Jackie

Support your local Attorney...Send your kid to Medical School!

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:25:13 -0800
From:    Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: YKYB and Fan Fic Contest Question

YKYBWTMFKW... you start dreaming about it -- nightly!  Last night I dreamed
that Nick was in the hospital and Tracy had just been brought across.  Nat
and I were quickly gathering up supplies -- pints of blood, coolers, etc.
And as we are about to leave the hospital in a frantic rush to get
*somewhere* extremely important so Tracy can feed, Tracy decides that she
has to take something to Nick, so she runs into his room with a bowl of
cream corn and a full bottle of bourbon.  Don't ask me, I don't write 'um I
just dream 'um.

Fan Fic Question:  I have already posted this to the Fan Fic list, but for
those of you not subscribed, I thought I would give you a shot at it too.  I
am running a contest so to speak.

The story I'm writing has Tracy and Vachon in a rock band together.  The
band needs a name.

The person who submits the winning name will receive virtual chocolates,
virtual calla lilies, and your suggested band name in print.  I reserve all
rights to ignore any and all suggestions I receive, but I really am looking
for just the right name.

Tiger Lily (bonnie@o.......)

But I *like* this new wrinkle in my reality.

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:11:25 +0000
From:    Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Repost: Sony execs update

On 19 Feb 96 at 16:42, Fire And Life Incarnate wrote:


> Could someone repost the entire list of Sony execs?  Someone
> accidentally deleted my mail directory and I lost it.  :-(
>

Sure!

Sony Corporation
[Address & phone number removed]

Executives:
Norio Ohga- Chairman/CEO
Nobuyuki Idei-Presidient/COO

****

Sony Corproration of America
[Address & phone number removed]

Executives:

Norio Ohga-Chairman Sony USA/Chairman Sony Pictures Ent. & Music
Nobuyuki Idel-Vice-Chairman Sony USA/ Chairman Sony Electronics
Ms. H. Onoyama, Vice President of Sony USA.

***

Sony Pictures Entertainment
[Address & phone number removed]

Executives:

Norio Oha-Chairman
Alan J Levine/ President and CEO of the FILM Division
Jonathan Dolgen/President Motion Picture Group (excludes TV)
Jon Feltheimer/President TriStar TV
Dennis Miller, Executive Vice President (Has responsibility for Sony
Television)

***

Sony Television Entertainment
[Address & phone number removed]

Executives:
Jon Feltheimer/President

***

TriStar Television
[Address & phone number removed]

President-Jon Felthiemer
George Reeves/Public Relations
Helen Verno/Executive Vice President
Sandra Stern/Public Relations

???? No word yet as to whether Feltheimer is still acting as
President of TriStar TV since his poromotion, or if he is being
replaced.


Karen, Knightie/Heartbreaker/FFFROG ktobin@t......., KarenT1228@a.......)
Reference Librarian of the Save Forever Knight Campaign/Almighty Address Goddess
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help,  email me
and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:22:53 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Sick of Top Tens yet?

Well, I hope for your sake you *aren't* sick of them yet, because here's
another one!  Muahahaha!

The Top Ten Things FK Characters Do Behind Closed Doors:

10.  Tracy tends a shrine to the TV show  The Brady Bunch  while wearing 70 s
style clothes and eating Rice Krispy Treats.
9.  Lacroix whittles the characters from Disney s  Snow White and the Seven
Dwarves  out of soap.
8.  Nick is a phone psychic named Cleo.
7.  Reese makes prank calls to Ozarka.
6.  Nat dons a black wig and acts out Frank N. Furter s part as she plays
 The Rocky Horror Pciture Show  on her VCR.
5.  Lacroix is a Tupperware salesman.
4.  Vachon poses as each of the seven dwarves as shavings of soap accumulate
around his ankles.
3.  Tracy consults a phone psychic named Cleo who seems to know everything
about her.
2.  Nick practices saying  I love you  in the mirror while wearing a long
curly brown wig and white lab coat.

and the number one thing:

1.  Two words: Lacroix polkas!

(Other candidates included:  Nat makes prank calls to CERK.  Lacroix watches
the Opra Winfrey show to get advice on how to deal with a problem child.
 Cleo makes prank calls to CERK.)


Wicked Cousin Tippi

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:39:03 -0500
From:    Cousin Candice <winter@j.......>
Subject: Re: Choosing Factions

On Mon, 19 Feb 1996, Samurai Knight wrote:

> Tippi Blevins came some *very* good reasons to be a Cousin. (see her top 10
> list).  Would the Knighties like to try?
>
> Falcon Storm

I'm not so sure those "reasons" were accurate dear Falcon Storm, and if
someone would care to forward me the original post, I'd be happy to point
those inaccuracies out, gladly.

*Taking down more names, addresses, posts....*

Yours,
Candice -obsessed by memory, befriended by desire, Cousin by choice
          Toreador by default
winter@j.......

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:40:25 -0500
From:    Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: About those Sony Postcards

On 2/18, Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......> wrote regarding the Sony holiday
postcards:
>> It looks like they're not going to gives us any final figures...I've
e-mailed several times and, except for the first time, when they
said that the final tallies were not yet in available, I've gotten absolutely
no response.<<

Anyone else think they're embarrassed by the results?  Anyone else starting
to think the axe was being hoisted a long time ago and that Sony/TriStar has
been determined to cut the show at three seasons regardless of anything that
could happen from fandom?  That the collective Sony/TriStar powers had
already decided to dig in their heels on this, ignoring all efforts?  Would
explain a lot, such as the thwarted buyout and the total lack of response
from TriStar to letters, etc.

Not that I don't want to see a turn around on this as much as the rest of
you!!!!   I'm  writing letters right along with you, beloved listfolk!  But
TriStar's attitude has all the earmarks of a little child who has determined
that he/she does not want something no matter how much pleading or how much
the parents cajole or try to trick him/her.  We're talking whining petulance
here!

Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci@a.......
Dark Knightie / Immortal Beloved

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 20:43:33 -0700
From:    Alm <ulrike@h.......>
Subject: Re: A Better Pairing

> Raissa Deveroux wrote:
>
> Actually, I think that if Nat was brought across, she'd whine just as much
> as Nick.

I'd have to disagree.  Nat is more the no-nonsense type who'd accept what
came to her.  Whining just isn't her style, though she might (BIG might)
try just as hard to find a cure as Nick does.
Btw, is it possible to be a Cousin and a Valentine?  I kinda like the
idea of Nat & LaCroix getting together.

Cousin Alm }} "The penny is mightier than the sword."
--ulrike@h.......

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:34:38 -0500
From:    A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: Good idea /vampire lit.

I'm so glad the origami crane idea appeals to everyone! Glad I mentioned it
since I'v been feeling depressed about my lack of success/involvement with
the SOS-Fk campaign. I got nowhere calling the press, I don't know enough
people to bring someone across (see?! I have no life), I can't donate blood
because of weak veins and a really bad experience with doanting a couple of
years ago. About all I've done is write a few letters and donate money to PAF
and Laurie.
I feel better now:)
BTW another good vampire book is "The Silver Kiss", forgot the author, it's
juvenile fiction but quite good and well written.
A Mc Iremi@a.......
"useful at last"

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Date:    Mon, 19 Feb 1996 22:47:37 -0500
From:    Marcia Tucker <ScFiMarci@a.......>
Subject: Top Ten Lists

I love these Top Ten Lists!  I admit to watching Letterman *only* for the Top
Ten Lists on occasion.  I can't resist jumping into the fray here (the
Knightie in me, always wants to belong) but I know my fellow Knighties will
likely have better ones than these!

(Okay, I just saw that someone else did a Knightie Top Ten - adding this
before I send it - but here's mine anyway)

Top Ten Reasons You'd Really Rather Be a Knightie:

10. Get to ride in that cool Caddy
9.  Unlimited access to Nick's high-tech dungeon of doom (i.e. the loft)
8. You also get access to the Raven (Nick's dad's place!)
7. You get to play with Nick's TV and computer stuff (wonder if he has a
Greatest Archeological Finds screen saver? Or, if he can keep it from Nat,
History's Most Beautiful Women screen saver?)
6. You're on the side of the good guys or at least the side of the vampire
who uses his powers to catch bad guys
5.  You get to tease Tracy as much as she can stand it or more (more!  See
MBIAV)
4.  Access to the red dressing gown and black satin pajamas of Nick's
3.  Remote control heaven  (take that! - click!)
2.  Possibilities of catching Ger shirtless  (essential part of Knightie
credo)
1.  Nick  (sigh)

And, to be fair:
Top Ten Reasons You'd Really Rather Not Be a Knightie Though You Are Anyway:
10. Angst
9.  LaCroix
8.  Flashbacks while driving
7.  Having to listen to 3rd Season Natalie (sorry!)
6.  Inability to listen to Tracy and drive at the same time
5.  Inadvertent guilt trips
4.  Mood swings
3.

Wait, these are reasons I'd rather not be Nick!  Or are they?
In that vein, let me continue!

3.  Protein drinks
2.  Really bad luck
1.  The loneliness

Now, I'm depressed!  But that fits with being a Knightie, so what the hey?  I
*like* being a Knightie!!!  And if I started on a list of all the things I
like about Nick, I'd never finish.  So, 'nuff said.

Marcia Tucker
ScFiMarci@a.......
Dark Knightie / Immortal Beloved
"I don't want a new one!  I like *that* one!" - Lacroix (did I really just
quote LC??)

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