FORKNI-L
Digest - 15 Feb 1996 - Special issue
Thu, 15 Feb 1996
There are 34 messages totalling 1011 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. Nick Knight (5)
2. SOS-FK Commercial <long>
3. MediaWest*Con panels
4. STATION REPLY IN MIAMI, FL and an Important effort
5. anthrovamp strikes again (6)
6. Upcoming Episodes and News (Feb 15th edition)
7. Q-Tips
8. Can Vampires/Nick...
9. FORKNI-L Digest - 15 Feb 1996
10. vachon (3)
11. Scheduled eps after Avenging Angel
12. being brought across
13. P.N. Elrod (2)
14. Call from Ren. PIX
15. Urs' faction (2)
16. FK Publicity - Toronto Star Newspaper (fwd)
17. Taming the Shrew
18. "nailing" Uncle, etc.
19. Other non-evil vampires
20. Syndi response -- keep letter writing
21. YKTBWTMFKW
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:35:35 -0330
From: Jason Ryan <ibe0018@i.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight
On Wed, 14 Feb 1996, Joanne Schechter wrote:
> Regarding Heather's post:
>
> >I'm looking for a copy of Nick Knight. Does anyone have a copy That they
Would this movie be availble at Block Buster, anyone know? I
know I can call down but I sitting here right now:)
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"La vie pour toujours, ma cher petite
-Jason Ryan
ibe0018@i.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 14:20:39 -0800
From: Heather Thornburg <penni@t.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight
> > >I'm looking for a copy of Nick Knight. Does anyone have a copy That they
>
> Would this movie be availble at Block Buster, anyone know? I
> know I can call down but I sitting here right now:)
I know it's not available at the Block Buster in Medford, OR. It's not
available at Hollywood Video either.
Heather
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:18:06 -0500
From: "Alora C. Chistiakoff" <acc0924@i.......>
Subject: SOS-FK Commercial <long>
OK, here goes. My sister is going to make a commercial for the SOS-FK
effort. (She is currently trying to get info as to who owns copyright, if
it is owned by Paragon we will probably be able to get it, if it is owned
by TriStar...well, how likely is it that they would give us
permission...in which case she will make it without any copy right
material)
Kira spoke with the San Francisco station (KOFY) that airs FK. They show
it twice, 1:00am Saturday morning, and 11:00pm Saturday night, the
11:00pm episode is filled completely, but the 1:00am show is $75 per 30
sec spot.
However, they are offering a deal, if we choose to buy the Highlander
package instead (which includes 2 airings during first run eps of
Highlander), they will throw in 2 FK slots for free. And because it also
advertises for the station they will reduce the rate even farther. (The
problem is that as is, the Highlander pack costs $900. Now, even reduced
is expensive, and she only makes $55 per week and I don't have a job.)
She was supposed to have a meeting with the local, local syndie last
night, but the night manager had to reschedule for tonight. Toni (thanks
Toni!) faxed Kira a bunch of info to take to the meeting, and she will
find out how much it will costs to air the spot on their station during
FK and ST:TNG reruns.
OK, I know this is a lot, but I'm almost done. I promise.
Kira is a great editor and I have no doubt the commercial will turn out
great (although I am used to helping out in the editing room). If anyone
else wants/is able to buy air time at their syndie and wants a customized
one *for their station* e-mail me ASAP (there will be tape and shipping
costs involved). But I need to know *YESTERDAY*, because Kira has to
generate graphics for each station.
Please only request it if you can/will do it. Otherwise Kira is going to
have to rack up editing room time for nothing...and as we all know, time
is of the essence.
I don't know what they are going to look like yet, because, obviously, we
don't know if we are going to be able to get copyright permission or not.
It could end up being really simple computer generated graphics, or
(prefferabley) clips from the show.
[In case we can use clips, I need people from the Bay Area who have eps
on *FAST SPEED* who would be willing to loan Kira the tapes, she will
come get them from you, to e-mail me. Kira doesn't have much of an ep
collection and what she does have are all on slow speed, so we need someone
elses.]
The head legal person at Paragon is out of the office until Monday, so
Kira can't start working on it until she talks to her. But I am working
on the voice over script tonight (if anyone has any ideas, lemme know).
If there are legal ramifications that I have missed or some reason we
shouldn't do this SOMEONE PLEASE LET ME KNOW NOW! Otherwise, it is underway.
I don't want to ask this, especially cosidering that Laurie has yet to
recoup all of the money she fronted for NATPE and the bags and
everything, but if someone *wants* to help with costs please e-mail me.
But I would prefer it if we could check into running the commercial in as
many areas as possible (Star Trek and Highlander are good shows to run
it during as well). So money would be better spent if we spread it around.
The final thing is, I know Annmarie's number was on the flyers, the
problem is that because there are a lot of people who we are trying to
reach who do not have web access, we need another way for them to reach
us. We have an extra phone line that can quickly (and, thanks to a PacBell
special this month, fairly cheaply) be converted into an 800 number. If
we get positive feed back we'll keep it, and if we don't we can get rid
of it.
Finally the Save FK Homepage address will of course be in the commercial.
If there is anything we are missing, or haven't thought of, or whatever,
please, please, please let me know. The sooner the better. One oway or
the other the commercial will have to be finished by the middle of next
week, which means we miss Avenging Angel for sure, but hopefully soon
after that it will be up and running.
Can someone tell me what (if any) eps are after AA.
Whew! I think that is everything. For now.
Kira is also going to try and convince her friends at the station that
the effort is a viable news story as well, but I think we stand a better
chance with the commercial.
Alora <acc0924@i.......>
The TriStar hating Natpacker
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 17:48:58 EST
From: Mary Anne Espenshade <mae@a.......>
Subject: MediaWest*Con panels
The progress report for MediaWest finally arrived this week, barely in time
for me to send in a bunch of FanQ nominations, mostly thanks to Susan Garrett
for preparing a list of all the FK zines and stories that were eligible.
I hope some other list members are planning to be there because
while looking over the panel list, I had two ideas. One kind of panel is the
introduction to a fandom presentation, I'd be interested in doing one for FK
if I could get a couple other people to help. Or if someone else is already
planning one, I'd be willing to help. I don't collect pictures, and I don't
have any way to print out gifs/jpgs from the web, so someone who could bring
pictures of the characters from all seasons would be good. I do collect fanzines
and could bring my FK zine information. We would want to do an SOS flyer, even
though the con isn't till May. The second idea is for a panel on the SOS
effort. It's too late to suggest panel topics without also supplying the
panelists, but if any of the NATPE 7 or other organizers are going to be at
the con, it would be useful to pass on their experiences to other fandoms.
I've only been a letter writer/money contributer, but I'd be willing to help
with a panel. The panelist forms don't have to be in until the end of March
so if anyone is interested in working with me on either of these, send me
private email.
--
Mary Anne Espenshade
mae@a....... http://www.inwap.com/u/mae/
"I worked late on my birthday and nobody brought ME a cute vampire!"
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:01:27 -0500
From: eugenio lobaina <elobai01@f.......>
Subject: STATION REPLY IN MIAMI, FL and an Important effort
Hi all! I am delurking after months of silence to actually post something
to the list which may be of interest. I got a reply letter from my local
syndie station WBFS TV-33. Here is the letter:
-Dear Gene,
-
-Thank you for your letter. Though it is popular in Miami, the program
-Forever Knight has struggled year to year in the national ratings. The
-distributer of the program, Columbia TriStar Television Distribution,
-has announced that the program will not be available in syndication for
-Fall 1996. Should the program return to syndication, we will certainly
-consider it for our lineup. Once again, thank you for taking the time to
-write.
-
-Sincerely,
- Tracy Swann
- Programming Director
I also called in and another exec. told me the show is doing OK (so-so).
Not great BUT not bad. They also asked for FK at NATPE but it wasn't
available. The decision is now in the hands of Columbia Tristar.
Now we all know that Tristar has gone from "canceled" to "undecided".
This is the time for us to double our efforts. Everyone please try to
do something. I have only posted like once or twice but I've been on
this list since Aug. 95. IF ANYONE is in the South Florida area please
email me privately. HERE'S WHY, I have heard a few friends say they
were going to some Television Preview convention in a couple of
weeks. It would be a great place for us to pass out flyers. I will make
every effort to get in touch with you if you contact me, since several
people passing out flyers are better than one.
I also wanted to thank the NATPE 7 for all their efforts. If it wasn't
for them we wouldn't have had that big an impact. I also think Laurie
Fenster should not have to pay all that money out of her pocket. If
anyone can send anything please do. Remember all the publicity we have
gotten through her efforts. IT ISN'T FAIR THAT SHE SHOULD FRONT ALL THE
MONEY FOR A CAUSE WE ALL BELIEVE IN. I think some people have not sent
money because they don't have any at the momment or perhaps they aren't
working. I have yet to send mine because I only recently started working,
but I have emailed her the amount I shall be sending. EVERY LITTLE BIT
HELPS.
I also called GNP and they told me to call back, but I think Fred's CD
should be out soon because they announced it at the end credits of HUMAN
FACTOR (SORRY if this has been mentioned already, I am behind on my
digests, which is one of the reasons I never post). I think the CD should
be awesome! Let me also remind everyone of what Mr. Mollin did for us
and how he helped our cause. It was he who notified us of the situation.
Let's show our appreciation OK.
Let's put our best effort forward to support our favorite show and to
keep these BRILLIANT actors working. Let us enjoy AT LEAST one more year
of their work IF NOT MORE. The more seasons we have, not only the more
shows we have to enjoy but the better the chances of getting the episode
tapes released and the syndicated earlier seasons rerun. OUR STRENGTH IS
IN OUR UNITY, let's not forget. Everybody keep up the good work and keep
those discussions coming. I will shut up now.......
Gene <elobai01@f.......>
Lacroix: Maybe this is a good way for you to figure out for yourself
whether you want to be mortal again. It's a simple choice really. A
classic. Which would you rather save, the cup or the girl?......
Either way, I won.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:07:51 -0800
From: Dianne Therese DeSha <desha@b.......>
Subject: Re: anthrovamp strikes again
Sandra writes:
> But for an FK vampire to bring someone across means that the vampire
> *does* identify with that particular human in some way (else why
> bring that person across?). If the vampire can make that distinction,
> then he/she *is* able to identify with humans.
"Is able" and "does" are two very different things, though, and something
that can and will vary over time for any individual to some extent. I'm
sure they're all able (to a greater or lesser extent). Whether they do or
not in any given situation would depend on the vamp in question, the person
in question, and all the surrounding circumstances (how hungry the vamp...
their level of parental inclination at that moment... and dozens of
other factors.)
> Also, Cousin Tippi's comments about killing female children (while
> true) is an eastern culture concept. Most all of the flashbacks and
Not true, sorry to say. In fact, just read a reference to the
practice of female infanticide in the European Midlle Ages not
two hours ago...
Dianne
Another once-upon-a-time Anthro major... is this going to get like
the librarian thing??? :-)
The Once-Again-Mad Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
***"We ARE War 6!" -- The Magnificent Seven :-)***
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:25:31 -0600
From: Annmarie <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight
At 02:20 PM 2/15/96 -0800, you wrote:
>> > >I'm looking for a copy of Nick Knight. Does anyone have a copy That they
Try Suncoast Video..they are the ones that had it in the past.
Save FOREVER KNIGHT! E-mail me or visit the homepage *
http://member.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html*
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:42:35 EST
From: Joanne Schechter <102763.1453@c.......>
Subject: Nick Knight
>> > >I'm looking for a copy of Nick Knight. Does anyone have a copy That they
>> Would this movie be availble at Block Buster, anyone know? I
>> know I can call down but I sitting here right now:)
>I know it's not available at the Block Buster in Medford, OR. It's not
>available at Hollywood Video either.
The video is probably not in stock at any of these places. You have to go to
the counter and ask if they can order a video for you. A store that can order
individual videos should be able to get Nick Knight. Also try record stores and
maybe those big book/record/video stores like Borders and Barnes & Noble. They
often order single copies of books & records for people, why not videos? Bottom
line is, you have to ask. You won't find Nick Knight sitting on the shelf, it's
too obscure.
Again, anybody who wants the specifics of how I ordered mine can e-mail me.
Joanne
102763.1453@c.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:45:18 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: anthrovamp strikes again
Cousin Christy wrote:
>Uncle: "She wouldn't have survived very long, Nicholas. It was a kindness to
> put her out of her misery. The poor creature was brain dead. She wouldn't
> have been able to take care of herself...."
Ohmigawd! You mean... you mean... <gulp> Uncle is a humanitarian??! <Sob>
I might as well be a Knightie!
Juuuuust kidding. :)
Guess we should start calling Tracy by her new name: Bambi!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:45:08 -0500
From: Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: anthrovamp strikes again
Sandra Gray wrote:
>Also, Cousin Tippi's comments about killing female children (while
>true) is an eastern culture concept. Most all of the flashbacks and
>origins of FK vampires are of western origin where this action would
>not have been common to the cultures they came from or moved in.
I didn't give the above example to necessarily defend what vampires do or
don't do. I gave the above example to show the other side of your argument
(that people who kill children are disturbed and heartless.) I was trying to
show that it is possible to do what seems the worst possible thing to US, but
seems to be the best possible thing to SOMEONE else. :)
I mean, yes, it seems like the FK vamps don't go to the far east very often,
but even if we look at it from a strictly Western POV, there are still plenty
of examples of humans killing humans under forgivable, even glorified,
circumstances.
If we're going to judge vampires (or any group), let's do it by their own
standards, yes? At least for long enough to see it from their POV. If we
judge Lacroix by vampire standards, he does not seem particularly evil. Heck,
he seems like a freakin boyscout! However, if we judge Nick by human
standards (as he seems to judge himself) then he comes out looking like a
real sicko. ;)
According to human standards, just *trying* to be good isn't good enough. So
if you're going to judge vampires by human stanards, judge them all. Even
the ones like Nick who try NOT to be bad, still slip up on occasion. We
wouldn't forgive a human serial killer if he TRIED not to kill again, but
goofed up and DID kill again. I'm just giving all the FK vampires the
benefit of the doubt by judging them on their own standards. ;) Remarkably
generous for a Cousin, ain't I?
Ok, I'll go back to imaging Uncle as a boy scout now... ahem!
Wicked Cousin Tippi
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:45:46 -0800
From: Jackie <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Upcoming Episodes and News (Feb 15th edition)
FYI - note new show on 2/12/96 - Avenging Angel -
> Permission is granted to repost on other systems. If you excerpt it,
> please note this list as the info source. Send any questions you
> have to me at leew@i.......
>
> SFTV Mailing list info is at the end of the file.
>Forever Knight Season Three (Syndicated)
>WWW: http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html
>WWW: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
>
>Week of Prod # Title
>------------------------------------------------
> 1/01/96 306R My Boyfriend is a Vampire
> 1/08/96 312 Strings
> 1/15/96 313 Fever
> 1/22/96 314 Dead of Night
> 1/29/96 315 Games Vampires Play
> 2/05/96 316 Human Factor
> 2/12/96 317 Avenging Angel
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>
>Forever Knight Season Three (USA Netowrk)
>WWW: http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html
>Repeats Fri 1:00 am
>
>Week of Prod # Title
>------------------------------------------------
>01/01/96 306R My Boyfriend is a Vampire
>01/02/96 301R Black Buddha Parts 1 and 2
>01/08/96 307R Hearts of Darkness
>01/09/96 310R Night in Question
>01/16/96 311R Sons of Belial
>01/18/96 309R Let No Man Tear Asunder
>01/23/96 312 Strings
>01/25/96 312 Strings
>01/30/96 313 Fever
>02/01/96 313 Fever
>02/15/96 310R Night in Question
>02/22/96 308R My Trophy Girl
>
> TBD 314 Dead of Night
> TBD 315 Games Vampires Play
> TBD 316 Human Factor
> TBD 317 Avenging Angel
>SAT FEED INFO SECTION - All times listed are Eastern
>NOTE: These feeds can change without any notice.
>Forever Knight
>
>Monday 3:00 am EST G4/13
>Tuesday 5:30 am ET T1/01
>Sunday 11:30PM PT S3/15 (KTLA)
Jackie
Support your local Attorney...Send your kid to Medical School!
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:52:54 -0700
From: Isis <isis@m.......>
Subject: Q-Tips
You know, I'm currently in the process of teaching my parakeets to say
"Uncle Q-Tip head! Uncle Q-Tip head!" Every time LaCroix comes on screen.
<ducking> By the way, I just got them, and I still haven't decided what to
name them. I'm considering Nick and Nat, Fox and Dana, Mulder and Scully,
or Chris and Rita. Any suggestions?
Jaime
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Isis@m....... Natpacker/Optimist's Club/X-phile
I assimilate you. You assimilate me. We're a collective
family. --Barney of Borg
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:58:18 -0800
From: Swordsister <catheboo@c.......>
Subject: Re: anthrovamp strikes again
On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Sandra Gray wrote:
> But for an FK vampire to bring someone across means that the vampire
> *does* identify with that particular human in some way (else why
> bring that person across?). If the vampire can make that distinction,
> then he/she *is* able to identify with humans.
Or perhaps the vampire doesn't see the human as a human, but as a
potential vampire. Not quite a vampire yet, but definitely better than
human. It's a pretty obvious rationalization, true, but we're not
talking about a computer here, which *has* to be logical, we're talking
about a person. And people have been known to rearrange their biases to
fit their needs.
> Also, Cousin Tippi's comments about killing female children (while
> true) is an eastern culture concept. Most all of the flashbacks and
Yes, this is very true. I think Tippi was just using that particular
example as an analogy which could be transferred to the way vampires view
mortals. It still remains that this kind of view or attitute is possible
by otherwise kind and loving people, regardless of eastern or western
origin.
Catherine
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Catherine Boone catheboo@c.......
"Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with
themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon." - H. L. Mencken
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:19:10 -0500
From: Rebecca Burns <r.burns@g.......>
Subject: Re: Nick Knight
I just got off the phone with a company call Movies Unlimited based out of
Philadelphia, PA.
They have the tape "Nick Knight" for $14.99. the guy couldn't tell me what
the shipping & handling charge was...he said probably around $5.00. You can
order by credit card or send a check or money order.
Their number is 1-000-000-0000
The address is: Movies Unlimited
[Address removed]
When you order give the order number 701 324
Hope this helps all those folk searching high and low for this tape.
Nocturnally Yours,
Becky
Knightie & NatPacker with Cousinly Tendencies
BeckyInVA@a....... or r.burns@g.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 15:31:37 -0800
From: John Soo-Hoo <galahad!jsoohoo@n.......>
Subject: Re: Can Vampires/Nick...
<199602152154.NAA28463@n.......>
Can vampires or Nick detect other vampires that they haven't
shared blood with?? I'v seen Nick detect one now and then but sometimes
he can't or dosen't, I don't know. For example, thier was an eps. when
Nick fell in Love with a dancer, then stuff happens(try not to ruin it)
and anyways these two guys pass Nick and Nick doesn't know that they are
vampires and then more stuff happens(try not to ruin again:) Can someone
clear this up. I know that in the Anne Rice world that vampires can
detect each other is it the same for FK??
I would say yes. I the example I cite is the one with the multiple personality
vampire (Monica) who didn't know she was a vampire. Nick could not sense her
presence, but did sense Urs.
Also in "My Boyfriend is a Vampire" Tracy asked Vachon if someone was a
vampire.
As far as to what is the range, I can safely say at least across the
street. (The same episode with the schizo vampire).
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:58:11 +0300
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 15 Feb 1996
Well now, I'm just nuts aren;'t I? I like Urs too, so for the person who's
starting an Urs faction, I'll join it too ... yes, this is the Toni who's
having such problems deciding between Vaquera and Cousin hood.
ahem
Toni M. = CFW for Kinman,Cord & Methos' Sword/FW for Kalas/Vaquera with
pretensions to Cousinhood/Skinner fan/Chief Wombat (no tails!)/Dueser
(Dief devotee)/Kermit lover/Trekkie /"I drank what?!" (courtesy of my Cat)
the Cat speaks? The chinchilla types!? MA97AD14@a.......
<\/\/\/\/\/\//\/[--
<it's a flamberge!>
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:57:10 +0200
From: Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......>
Subject: vachon
I got a bio of ben bass from the german fk home page. (nice pic) and I
noticed that he was in are you lonesome tonight. who was the actor who
played the older elvis. I have footage of both martin shaw and paul
darrow's preformances, can anyone help me. also, no matter what a certain
kimby says, i am not related to her, honest! she's a happy happy joy joy
perkilator that wishes that tracey would get together with uncle.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:20:51 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Scheduled eps after Avenging Angel
Hi,
Does anyone know what the syndicated ep schedule will be after Avenging
Angel? Will there be a rerun filled lag?
Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
Nat Vamp Camp
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:15:03 EST
From: TORREY L HARRIS <SSZK27A@p.......>
Subject: Re: being brought across
Toni M. writes:
>Now as to the debate over whether I should be a Cousin or a Vaquero
... Can't I combine the two? or do I have
>to keep my multiple personalities thing? When are we gonna have
>another war?
Well as far as I know there is no LaCroix/Vachon faction...you could
start one I guess. You will find a bit of a problem during the war with
it though. It is safe to say that the Cousins and The Vaqueros have
somethings to settle in the next war < waves to Cherri <G> and you
would be caught in the middle. It is hard to find a nitch in the war
with multiple faction tendencies. As for when we will have another
war...well we need to finish #6 first....
Torrey
*Vaquera*
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:52:23 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: P.N. Elrod
Does P.N. Elrod and the other FK-fan authors know of the plight of the show?
Does anyone know if *they* are being vocal about it?
Bonnie (bonnie@o.......) -- Forever Knight FOREVER!
*** Hell Cat, Vaquera, Heartbreaker ***
"Let me run with you tonight, I'll take you on a moonlight ride"
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:30:20 -0500
From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: Call from Ren. PIX
OK, add me to the list of people who've been called by Tamara at
Renassaince pictures.
Folks, these people are *incredibly* nice and obviously know a thing or two
about PR and fans. I know this is their way of staving off a ton of
letters getting dropped on them because they aren't poised for taking over
someone elses show at the moment, but they're being *so darn nice* about
it!
So, please don't write to Renaissance Pictures about Forever Knight.
However if you watch any of their other stuff (Hercules, Xena and/or
American Gothic) then by all means write them a letter of support for those
shows.
I'm so impressed with their courtesy and respect (and Tamara tracked me
down--I didn't put a phone number or anything down).
Sharon
--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:33:21 -0400
From: "l.d. steele" <aa300@f.......>
Subject: Urs' faction
> From: <[Name removed by request]>
> i hereby establish it.
> 'Cause there doesn't seem to be one, except in theory.
(snip)
> And i'm not naming myself a leader or anything. This isn't politics :)
Well, well... We've already got a possibility.
> From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
> >From: Roxanna Reeves <GreyBrothr@a.......>
> >Well...how 'bout "Ursines?"
> >Of course, members sould have to have a thing for bears, too....
> Then they could be the Teddy Bears, or Teddies for short.
> Bonnie (bonnie@o.......)
Somehow... It doesn't work. (Teddies?- maybe. Depends on faction members)
Ursa Majors
Ursa Minors
Ursulines (heh heh heh - sorry Ursaline=member of a teaching and nursing
order of nuns, founded 1535 (Vachon connect? <eg>
Ursulas (See above - Ursulines named after St. Ursula)
Ushers
Urchins
Usufructs (G>
Ursurers
Ack! get the dictionary away from me!!!
Seriously. With the talk going around the spoilers list, maybe this is
________. I mean with the _____ of her ________ _____ this could be
________.
:)
Just me. Wasting time that I should be spening on homework. If it still
exists during the next war... I promise to not attack -- got to give
these emerging factions some breathing room. <G>
Back to lurkdom!
Dawn
l.d.steele
h36a@u....... or aa300@f.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:28:33 +0200
From: Kimby <STUHIGGINKG@m.......>
Subject: Re: vachon
Perkilater? Perkilater!!!! Katrinka!!!!! I'll get you for this...<EG>.
Just for the record--I have not, nor have I ever been a Perkilater!!!
(I do wish that Tracy and Uncle would get together sometime, tho--he
looks like he could do with a good meal! ;)
As for the relative business--well, what do YOU think???
Happy,Happy,Joy,Joy
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:42:29 -0500
From: Diane Kennedy <dkennedy@f.......>
Subject: FK Publicity - Toronto Star Newspaper (fwd)
In the Friday, Feb. 9 edition of the Star, Section D, page 2, there was
an article about Diana Zimmer, the actress who played Jodie (sp),
episode "Blind Faith. Her character was afflicted with MS until Perry
"cured" her by bringing her across.
In real life, she does have MS and is an actress with Star Tracks Agency
that caters to disabled performers. According to the actress, approx.
20 able bodied actresses were up for the part that she eventually got.
I think it was very progressive casting by FK.
I will be writing to the Star reporter to thank her for the article.
Diane Kennedy
Hamilton, ON Canada
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 19:37:25 +0200
From: Kimby <STUHIGGINKG@m.......>
Subject: Re: P.N. Elrod
I know that P.N. Elrod knows--I belong to her fan club. Both she and the
fan club president put the addresses and other info into the club news-
letter(The better to get the word out, my dear!).
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:46:19 -0500
From: Liz VanderHam <EVDH@a.......>
Subject: Taming the Shrew
Is there anyone from the Washington, DC area going to see Ger in Toronto?
I'm interested in going, too and I can drive.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:50:46 -0500
From: Michelle Mark <Raindance2@a.......>
Subject: "nailing" Uncle, etc.
Amy Denton writes:
<<Now, did she nail LaCroix or did she nail LaCroix?>>
I'm not even gonna touch that one!! <retrieving mind from gutter>
Ahem..anyway...I agree partially with what you said. I agree that LC is
more human than he would ever admit. However, I don't think that he's
nothing but a big bully. Watch human Factor and then tell me you think he's
just a bully.....There are so many dimensions to LC's persona that they would
need to give him his own show every week just to scratch the surface.
Cousin michelle
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:55:57 -0700
From: Alm <ulrike@h.......>
Subject: Re: vachon
Katrinka wrote:
> she's a happy happy joy joy
> perkilator that wishes that tracey would get together with uncle.
And do what? Become an incredibly insipid late night snack?? But maybe
I'm being too hard on her. Maybe she could be his flunkey when Nicholas
isn't there to take care of things. After all, they *are* partners. ;-)
Cousin Alm }} "I'm like a bad penny; I always turn up."
--ulrike@h.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 20:58:30 -0500
From: MaryAnn McKinnon <MaryAnnMc@a.......>
Subject: Other non-evil vampires
I just wanted to let folks know that I occasionally review novels for the
Romance Readers Anonymous List that feature vampires with basically the same
mind set and philosophy of life as Nick. If anyone would like me to email
you copies of these reviews, please send me a note.
MaryAnnMc@a.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 21:01:12 -0500
From: Stephania Hyde <Step68@a.......>
Subject: Re: anthrovamp strikes again
In a message dated 96-02-15 18:46:01 EST, Wicked Cousin Tippi writes:
>. If we judge Lacroix by vampire standards, he does not seem particularly
evil. Heck,
>he seems like a freakin boyscout! However, if we judge Nick by human
>standards (as he seems to judge himself) then he comes out looking like a
>real sicko. ;)
Whoa, talk about your double standards! Yes, yes, Nick does judge himself by
human standards. However, he cannot possibly live up to those standards
because of his nature.
We cannot judge him by those standards any more than we can judge other
humans by comparing them to God. Follow me here. Most humans who consider
themselves moral people would like to be perfect. However, we are human, not
God, so we can never attain that perfection (original sin, anyone?). As much
as we might strive for that goal, we are never going to reach it.
Nick is in much of the same situation. He wants to live up to human
standards, but he is a vampire, not a human. How can we judge him as a human
anymore than we can judge ourselves against perfection? Nick's becoming a
vampire is his own personal version of original sin. Because of the nature
of the beast inside him, he cannot achieve humanity anymore than we can
achieve perfection. If he were to become human, THEN we could judge him by
human standards. In the mean time, we can only judge him based on what he
is, not what he wants to become.
Oh, BTW, someone made the comment that they would rather be locked in a room
with LaCroix than with Nick, since they know where LaCroix stands. I'd have
to disagree. You know that LaCroix would kill you right away if he were
hungry. Nick, however, would at least try to control himself. You might not
be certain that he could, but you would have a h*ll of a better chance of
coming out of the room alive if you were locked in with Nick.
Stephania
Nick&Nat-Packer, who now realizes that her math degree NEVER prepared her for
discussions such as this
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 16:52:04 CST
From: "OREL, SARA" <FA55@n.......>
Subject: Syndi response -- keep letter writing
Greetings from the "heartland" where it seems that hell has indeed
frozen over, and I hope that means that we will be getting another
season.
I got a response from KHQA-tv, in Hannibal, MO/Quincy, IL, and as we all
need some positive feedback and words of encouragement from a classy
person/station, I wanted to pass this on to you:
Dear Ms. Orel,
I'm thrilled to hear from another Forever Knight fan! Thank you for
your audience building efforts in Kirksville, we need all the viewers we
can get.
We don't know yet if the program will continue in production but if it
does we will renew the show.
I've enclosed a blank VHS tape in case you need to record it for later
viewing.
Sincerely,
John Hurley
Vice President/General Manager
KHQA-TV
This is a CBS affiliate on which I have watched all three seasons, and I
wrote a positive, thank you very much letter. And I think they are
happy to run the show, and want to build the viewership. Besides it is
awfully classy to have such a positive response to my "can't you move it
earlier" (which was more positively phrased, honestly) query as to send
a videocasette by return post. I will continue to watch it on KHQA, you
can believe me. As it is now time to set up a new tape for FK episodes,
I will set it up to tape off KHQA, onto my nifty KHQA-labelled
videocasette.
Yet another station that says it WANTS to renew the show. Can't anyone
hear the stations asking?
In frustration, but impressed with my local station...
Sara E. Orel
FA55%nemomus@a.......
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:08:14 -0800
From: [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: Urs' faction
Subjects most will find worthless follows so delete now. i apologize for
the waste but this is list related (and if we can tie every aspect of our
lives into FK then i can post one more thing about Urs :)
Dawn wrote (and quoted me):
> > i hereby establish it.
> > And i'm not naming myself a leader or anything. This isn't politics :)
>
> Well, well... We've already got a possibility.
Ha ha. i don't see a smiley or a <g> but i'm going to treat your response as
though one were there. But did i really come off that way? i just meant that
there didn't seem to be any Urs followers 'outed'. Just wanted to say
we're here. All two of us. Sorry about that.
> Ursa Majors
> Ursa Minors
That's nice. Ursa Minor as in i'm a cousin first and foremost.
> Ursulas (See above - Ursulines named after St. Ursula)
> Urchins
> Usufructs (G>
Fine, good. Even Usufructs. So, Toni (the other one), which one do you
want? "Urchin" sounds nice and weepy to me.
[Name removed by request]
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 22:45:39 -0330
From: Paula Hurley <phurley@b.......>
Subject: YKTBWTMFKW
Okay, I might as well add my little experience to the list, watching Due
South tonight I discovered I have definantly been watching too much FK,
because in Fraser's dreams the sound effects were heartbeats(I'm not
kidding), making me think when did Fraser get brought across, and then
the bad guy's name is revealed to be,...LaCroix!! Then to make matters
worse, a commerical for Robitussion came on, staring Deb Duchene. I think
I'll go attack my homework now, to reemerge myself in reality.
Paula
Dark Knightie/
Nick&NatPacker/
Valentine(is it possible to be a N&NPacker & a Valentine)/
And likes LaCroix(but I'm not a Cousin, I swear)
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 18:20:32 -0800
From: [Name removed by request]
Subject: Re: anthrovamp strikes again
On Thu, 15 Feb 1996, Stephania Hyde wrote:
>
> Oh, BTW, someone made the comment that they would rather be locked in a room
> with LaCroix than with Nick, since they know where LaCroix stands. I'd have
> to disagree. You know that LaCroix would kill you right away if he were
> hungry. Nick, however, would at least try to control himself. You might not
i'm not sure about Cousin Tippi, who originally made that comment, but
i'd say that's one reason why going against LC wouldn't be so bad. You'd
have no doubts what he'd do. Kill, eventually. Nick could go either way,
depending on the kind of day he'd had :) So it depends whether you like
suspense or would rather just get it over with :)
[Name removed by request]
(okay, okay. i'm sorry everybody. Feeling a bit weird. Saw Ralph Fiennes
as Heathcliff in "Wuthering Heights" and i'm feeling a bit melodramatic.
i'm very impressionable, i guess. Ralph Fiennes. Ho, boy.)
[Names removed by request], /
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