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Digest - 31 Jan 1996 to 1 Feb 1996 - Special issue
Thu, 1 Feb 1996
There are 38 messages totalling 1017 lines in this issue.
Topics in this special issue:
1. LC and Tracy (2)
2. LC and Tracy and other thoughts
3. Prologue In Portuguese
4. Ger in Taming of the Shrew?!
5. Vicki's half-remembered scene Re: Vicki's scene?
6. fooping bats/bloodsuckers
7. No FK on USA
8. YKYBWTMFKW (2)
9. SOS: Warm Fuzzies
10. Sharks
11. SOS: Local station in my area
12. Please forward NATPE Report
13. Posting to FKFIC
14. SF BLOOD DONATING
15. Need ideas for gift to Crew
16. Help - fkstory archives
17. triple delight
18. FK history: Nat & LC?
19. address for Andy Kaplan of TriStar?
20. Sounds and Such (2)
21. TV Guide...Mon
22. Nick & Nat in NiQ
23. Call from TriStar (3)
24. Nat and LaCroix
25. Salt Lake City Party
26. YKYBWTMFK
27. Nice words about Toronto in Newsweek, and ObFK
28. YKYBWTMFK-W
29. Calls to syndies
30. Fever on USA
31. Gift Idea's: THANKS!
32. The demise of the Neilsons
33. KNIGHTBEAT
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:07:45 -0400
From: "Leigh T. Johnston" <am496@c.......>
Subject: LC and Tracy
The first time I saw Tracy in an ep was Dead of Night and so far I'm
not real impressed with her, that doesn't mean I won't give her a chance
though, it just means that I can't see LaCroix with her... yet. As for
younger women not being interrested in older men, booger on that!! I'm 25
and would have no qualms whatsoever about slipping between a couple of
black satin sheets with LaCroix. People aren't old until their no longer
sexy in some manner.
If a similar message to this has already been posted from me please
accept my humble apologies, my computer said that an identical message
had already been sent (unlikely unless I mistakenly sent it twice?) and
I'm a little tipsy off home made wine (sorry, it's white, I didn't make
it). From now on I will check my messages BEFORE I dip into wine.
- Leigh (ghoti)
Immortal Beloved
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:26:04 +1000
From: Lisa Sutherland-Fraser <lfraser@p.......>
Subject: Re: LC and Tracy and other thoughts
>The first time I saw Tracy in an ep was Dead of Night and so far I'm
>not real impressed with her, that doesn't mean I won't give her a chance
>though, it just means that I can't see LaCroix with her... yet. As for
>younger women not being interrested in older men, booger on that!! I'm 25
>and would have no qualms whatsoever about slipping between a couple of
>black satin sheets with LaCroix. People aren't old until their no longer
>sexy in some manner.
>- Leigh (ghoti)
Old is sexy. What we have are three very desirable men who happen to
be vampires. I agree with Leigh and many others, age and experience are
very alluring, it gives them so much more substance.
There is something very attractive about a very young girl and a man who is
of a wonderful vintage, I say yes, I'd love to see them together. The fantasy
of four in a bed (me sandwiched in the middle, yes I am greedy) is absolutely
divine, but I don't know whether I got that much blood to go around for three
lusty (one with a mean conscience tho...) vampires. Oh I guess there's always
other delights to amuse us all. Hell how am I going to sleep after thinking
about this? Joke: What's better than one vampire? Three! :[
These scenarios could go on forever.
Darkest best
Lisa
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 15:38:49 +1000
From: Lisa Sutherland-Fraser <lfraser@p.......>
Subject: Re: Prologue In Portuguese
Pat
Obrigada!
Lisa
A-
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:20:02 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Ger in Taming of the Shrew?!
>Allison-
>Is it TRUE?!?!?!? Ger will be Pertrucio in Taming of the Shrew!!!
Hey, I'm new to this list and I have missed more than SOMETHING. When and
where will Ger be in "Taming of the Shrew"?
~~~~~~~~~~
Bonnie de las Vaqueras
Cheers to the Magnificent NATPE Seven!
"No matter the outcome, we have won
because the cause was just,
our intentions were honorable, and
our hearts were true."
-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
<bonnie@o.......>
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:02:14 -0500
From: Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: Re: Vicki's half-remembered scene Re: Vicki's scene?
> Vicki (vmerrima@i.......) said:
> > Silly question # 253 - I have a memory of Nick looking through an entire
> > storeroom of stuff, piles of it. Is this from an episode or from fanfic?
Fanfic. I think you're thinking of Sharon Scott's "Ordering the Past."
Lisa W.
MVRJasper@a.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:02:24 -0500
From: Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: Re: fooping bats/bloodsuckers
I wrote, and then Vicki responded:
> arena and someone shouts, "Hey, is that your friend Nick?" Ahhh, the
> teasing I put up with for the Cause... ;) (Actually, the rest of
>>I like this. doesn't the bat startle the horses?
Nope. It swooped (or is that "fooped"?) down just under the arena roof's
rafters, where the horses are used to hearing/seeing "fooping" pigeons and
barn swallows. And the fledglings foop a *lot* in the spring.
> call Nick back to bite you." "Hey, he can't bite Vicki. She's
> already a bloodsucker." (Vicki is an attorney--<ducking as Laura,
> Laurie, et al. hurl heavy objects at me...>)
>>Not yet, another 3 months to go. <<snip>> I bite him. He
bites me. We both have a terrific time :)
LOL! I'll have to tell "my" Vicki that one! No...on second thought...I've
already blown my "but she's such a NICE girl" cover with that particular
circle of friends; don't want to push it much farther. ;) And I'm still
trying to hit them up for PAF donations.
Lisa W.
MVRJasper@a.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:07:36 EWT
From: molly <MSREED@c.......>
Subject: Re: No FK on USA
FK is on late Thursday night/Friday morning at 1 or 2 am.
on USA
molly
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:22:24 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <1595@e.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW
Hi Cindy,
LC would not have a dog at all. As he said in Blind Faith, "dogs are for
breakfast."
Until next time,
Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......
I've got places to go, people to dissect. - Natalie Lambert
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:08:44 -0500
From: Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: SOS: Warm Fuzzies
On Jan 31, 1996 11:54:28, 'Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>' wrote:
>*I think I'm addicted to the Warm Fuzzies, Jamie!!!*
>Oh, I am so ashamed! I'm a grown adult! I shouldn't be opening them up
>twenty times a day to look at them! But they're just so... so...
*warm*!!!
>:-) (And fuzzy! And round-eyed! And cheerful!)
You will be pleased, then, to note this announcement of the
NEW!! IMPROVED!! WARM FUZZIES WEB PAGE!!
featuring... <drum roll>
More Warm Fuzzies!
That's right, six, count 'em, SIX different varieties of fuzzies, for
viewing or for download -- in jpeg or bmp (Windows Wallpaper) format!
There now exist in the world:
Warm Fuzzies
Cool Fuzzies
Hot Fuzzies
Weird Fuzzies
Strange Fuzzies
...and...
Baby Fuzzies! (awww...)
Come and get 'em! Free, yes, free for the asking! Find 'em at...
http://members.aol.com/immajer/warm/fuzzies.html
Note: You really need Netscape to get the full effect. The AOL web
browser just don't cut it.
Add'l Note: Some of the text colors are kind of weird. The links are
there... trust me.
Brought to you by the Society for the Creation and Distribution of Warm
Fuzzies.
--
KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. -- The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N.
NatPack -- Mercenary -- SFK WebGoddess
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/immajer/
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:44:32 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Re: Sharks
Annmarie's shark song made me think of the San Jose Sharks ice hockey team.
Has anyone distributed flyers at their local sports games (NHL, NFL, NBA,
Little League, etc.). Just an idle thought.
~~~~~~~~~~
Bonnie de las Vaqueras
Cheers to the Magnificent NATPE Seven!
"No matter the outcome, we have won
because the cause was just,
our intentions were honorable, and
our hearts were true."
-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
<bonnie@o.......>
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:10:27 -0500
From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: SOS: Local station in my area
Well, a couple weeks back, Lana got an alarmed communication from a
Syracuse-area individual who spoke to Charles Bivins (GM and Programming at
WSYT-TV) and said he told her she was the only person who had written or
called in support of FK. Since then, I alerted the folks I knew at SU, sent
the aforementioned gift basket to Mr. Bivins, and spoke to the nice
receptionist whilst he was out, (probably at NATPE). And the receptionist
*was* nice, which is what makes this so puzzling:
Recently (just tonight, as a matter of fact), a *different* Syracuse-area
individual I know emailed me to say, and I quote:
>Apparently I got a call back from the station that currently >runs FK. My
roommate took the message....said the guy >sounded rude and cranky. That
when a company chooses not to >produce a show anymore, that there is little
they can do.
>
><YIKES>
>
>Did a bunch of us harass him? Or did whats his name just >wake up on the
wrong side of his voice-mail....
That's what I'd like to know.
Is it just coincidence? Has anyone else had a similar experience at their
syndies they can tell me about? And most importantly, if the person calling
back was the actual station manager and not a disgruntled flunky who might
have had to deal with excess letter/phonecalls, etc. , how could I dispel
this image (the crankiness, and so forth?) To make it worse, the person who
had this incident is also a Felicia <G>: he could very well think I'm the
same person calling him again and get ticked off, i.e. "Didn't I already tell
you this?"
How does one convince a recalcitrant or, even, a possibly peeved syndie?
Maybe there were a few people out there in my area who got the news via a
flyer and were *not*-so-nice when they called the station?
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 23:21:32 -0700
From: Corvia Noctis <jln8817@s.......>
Subject: Re: LC and Tracy
I think LC would get very annoyed with our lil' Perkulator.
But I also agree with the fact that older men are great!
I'm 18 and dating a 23 year old. I'm very happy, if he was Nick or LC I
might be happier!
Corvia
To: Jethro Tull, Ranma 1/2, Sarah McLachlan, Vamps and ALL of the
Night's creatures under the Goddess's Crescent Moon....
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:05:52 EST
From: Joanne Schechter <102763.1453@c.......>
Subject: Please forward NATPE Report
Could somebody forward to me the original NATPE Report ("We came, we saw," etc .
. .)? I must have missed it. (Danged Compuserve takes only 100 messages at a
time, and I keep getting nomailed for bounced messages.)
Thanks!
Joanne Schechter
102763,1453@c.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:16:07 -0500
From: Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: Posting to FKFIC
Dalton Spence writes:
>since I don't want to break any un-written (or written, for >that matter)
rules, I am asking for guidance on this >matter<snip> Please reply to me
personally unless the >response is an FAQ list (which should be public).
It is.
Everything about posting to FKFIC is contained in the FK FAQ. It can be
downloaded at ftp.cac.psu.edu, under the directory path
pub/people/lms5/fkmisc
It also, incidentally, re-states the same message Lisa McDavid posted re:
not sending anything but pure fiction to the FK list. Sorry if this has
already been answered; AOL is holding my mail up somewhere :(
Felicia Bollin
AriCon@a.......
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:04:45 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: SF BLOOD DONATING
*****SF/BERKELEY/BAY AREA FK FANS*****
I just gave blood today in the SF/Berkeley Bay Area and I wanted to let
people in this area know that even though the Red Cross does not take the
donations here, The Blood Bank of the Alameda-Contra Costa Medical
Association does AND they will keep tabs on the number of FK fans who donate
to them!!!
They were very nice and thought that this blood drive was a cool idea
(they were a little old to say "cool" but that's what they meant). I even
talked to the PR person and left some flyers. AND they gave me a black and
white (FK colors!) baseball hat for donating.
Their number is 0-000-000-0000 and they request that you call for an
appointment before donating.
~~~~~~~~~~
Bonnie de las Vaqueras (bonnie@o.......)
"No matter the outcome, we have already won because the cause is just,
our intentions honorable, and our hearts always true."
-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
Help SAVE Forever Knight, ask me how, or take a look at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 22:58:35 -0900
From: Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: Need ideas for gift to Crew
I suspect that stakes...oh, sorry--steaks would not get beyond Canadian
customs. Lynne A. may be able to answer that question. How about a
sweet unique to Neb.?
Knightie Knightie,
Barbara
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 01:35:13 -0800
From: Bonnie Pardoe <bonnie@o.......>
Subject: Help - fkstory archives
I tried to copy onto disk part 6 and the wrap up of the Second FK war, but
only got a third of part 6 to transfer and 0 of the wrap up. And NO my disk
is not full! HELP! Anyone?
~~~~~~~~~~
Bonnie de las Vaqueras (bonnie@o.......)
"No matter the outcome, we have already won because the cause is just,
our intentions honorable, and our hearts always true."
-- Forever Knight FOREVER!
Help SAVE Forever Knight, ask me how, or take a look at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:42:03 -0800
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: triple delight
>Take the first letters of "LaCroix," "Vachon," and "Nick," and put
>them together. Throw in a couple vowels, and you get "Lovin'"...
>So how 'bout "Lovin' Ones"?
Now this Idea I like...Actully I like the whole idea of all three of them
together then I do not have to choose. :)
Love, \|/
Wendy Marie |o o|
-------ooO~(_)~Ooo------
wendy@i.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 02:38:07 -0600
From: Kayla Clark <katygale@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK history: Nat & LC?
At 07:53 PM 1/21/96 -0500, Stephanie Babbitt wrote:
>Does Nat know who LaCroix is and that he's Nick's master?
Yes
>If so, when did she find out?
Not sure. I've not been able to see the first season.
>I read that in season one there was a Valentine's Day episode
>where she met LaCroix but then had her memory of the episode erased.
"Be My Valentine," a second season ep, is one of the most hotly debated.
Many believe that Nat faked her memory loss. I went up into ecstatic white
hot flames over some of the things Nick said and did; however, the word from
the actors is that BMV was shot quickly and not in a manner they enjoyed.
However, when Nat sees LaCroix in BMV, she indicates that she already knows
who he is.
>Did she ever have occasion to meet him again or discuss him with Nick?
Not unless you count NiQ where they sorta' work together to hide Nick's
secret. Since she and LC are working at cross-purposes, they don't get
together purposefully.
>Also, has Nick ever *told* Nat that he loves her, in so many words?
Hmmm, I'll have to back and watch BMV. Anybody else know right off hand?
>Has Nat ever told Nick that she loves him?
Not sure.
Hope I was of some help. Listmembers? Could you supply us with "The *rest*
. . . of the story"
ttfn,
"Cousin" Kayla !~!~!~ katygale@i......., katygale@a.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 00:52:37 -0800
From: debbie litchman <debbie8@e.......>
Subject: Re: address for Andy Kaplan of TriStar?
At 11:38 AM 1/31/96 -0500, vicki jean merriman wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Lisa Wolters wrote:
>
>Not yet, another 3 months to go. Besides, being a bloodsucker is
>_exactly_ the right thing to be to get Nick to bite you. I bite him. He
>bites me. We both have a terrific time :)
>
o/\ I bite you, you bite me
see how happy we can be /\o
(sung to the "Barney" theme) <G>
Debbie8@e.......
The Few, The Proud, The FK NATPE Strikeforce Survivors
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 04:27:55 +0000
From: Laura W Petix <lpetix@d.......>
Subject: Re: Sounds and Such
Hm! Lots of interest in my sounds in the past few days!! How
flattering. :-) I love reading about how much everyone's enjoying
them!
I also recorded and edited a collection of LaCroix lines from
"Curiouser & Curiouser" and "Be My Valentine," which are not on the
FTP site because I made them after I'd donated the ones that are
there (the ones in the "LaCroix," "Nick," "Schanke," "Janette,"
"Nat," and "Miklos" subdirectories are mine... I take no
credit/responsibility for the ones not in the subdirectories). If
there is enough interest, I could put these online on my webpage. I
don't have enough space to keep them online indefinately, though, as
I have to reserve room for my other webpages. If anyone would like
LaCroix waves from "C&C" and "BMV," please say so and I'll share
them.
Laura Whaples P., lpetix@d.......
Personal Home Page: http://www.dpcc.com/dpcc/assoc/lpetix/
LUCARD's HOME PAGE: http://www.dpcc.com/dpcc/assoc/lpetix/lucard/
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 04:34:32 +0000
From: "Laura Whaples P." <lpetix@d.......>
Subject: Re: Sounds and Such
...Or maybe I should hoard the C&C and BMV waves and only give them
to Cousins...?????
(Am I still a cousin after all? Hmmm...! Just when I thought I was
becoming a FoD...!)
Laura Whaples P., lpetix@d.......
Personal Home Page: http://www.dpcc.com/dpcc/assoc/lpetix/
LUCARD's HOME PAGE: http://www.dpcc.com/dpcc/assoc/lpetix/lucard/
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:25:13 -0500
From: Donna <hozdmb@r.......>
Subject: TV Guide...Mon
Per someone's suggestion, I checked my TV Guide for the Washington, D.C.
area and there it was, 10:00 p.m. Mon, FK on USA. Hope it's true! Just
thought I would pass it on and keeping fingers crossed.
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:22:50 EST
From: Lisa McDavd <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Nick & Nat in NiQ
Imho they didn't get further than necking. This is based on James
Parriott's statement on AOL that in the FK universe, "a woman who tried
to have sex with an FK vampire would find herself pierced above and
below the neck." (Ok, so I got tired of explaining the quote off list.
If this is too strong, sorry. It's what he said.)
Remember, Nick is still a vampire even though Nat was hoping he that if
he didn't know it, he wouldn't have the symptoms. Presumably she was
going on the analogy of the multiple personality case in Hearts of
Darkness. However when Nick went out in the sun he did get burned. So
I think if he and Nat had tried to do anything very heavy, he'd have
bitten her.
Yes, I know he was shown eating some sort of soup. Ger played that
scene with a rather puzzled expression, as though Nick knew something
was wrong but couldn't quite tell what. I suspect Nick threw up the
stuff shortly after everybody left. He wouldn't know it wasn't just
nausea.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:42:25 -0800
From: Eliot <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: Call from TriStar
At 07:45 PM 1/31/96 -0800, you wrote:
> **The local station's calls, letters or buying signals
> or improved Nielsen ratings will make the difference.**
Improved Nielsen ratings would be fantastic IF the show was
broadcast at a fairly decent time...I'd even settle for the witching hour of
midnight! But 1:00 A.M., 2:00 A.M., 3:00 A.M.; only the hookers, junkies,
cops, and those lucky enough to have night jobs are around at those times!
Jackie
Support your local Attorney...send your kid to Medical School.
ejdjd@i.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:40:48 EST
From: Lisa McDavd <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Nat and LaCroix
1. Nat has known about LaCroix since the pilot. We see Nick explaining
to her about LaCroix in Dark Knight, part 2.
2. I don't know how what the script said about it, but Ger said at
the Gerthering last spring that Catherine Disher fought (his word, I
think) to play that scene in BMV as though LaCroix had drugged her.
She considered it necessary since the Canadian version of Only the
Lonely in the first season made it clear that Nat is a resistor.
Btw, Ger said the director had never done FK, didn't understand the
show, and kept trying to make it into an episode of Tales From the
Crypt. He said the cast finally went to the producers and complained.
3. In BMV, Nat tells LaCroix, when he questions her under whatever
the influence was at the restaurant, "beautiful things were said."
She also admits that she was surprised and frightened when Nick told
her he loved her. Imho, the logical conclusion is that she admitted
she loved him, but it wasn't said in so many words.
Ahm, guys? If I can just slip back into ex-assistant listowner mode
for a moment? Thanks. There's a rule here, as on most internet
lists against a sig that is more than four lines long, including
everything -- name, address(es), quotations and artwork. Artwork
means any lines outlining the sig. Space is at a premium on psuvm.
Like all non-academic lists, we're only here on sufferance. Please
don't use extra space like that. When the disk fills up, the sysops
must free it by hand. If we annoy them often, there's always the chance
that they may refuse to host us any more.
Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:50:30 -0500
From: Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Salt Lake City Party
On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Lynn McAlpine wrote:
> Maybe *everyone* who plans a "Bring Your Friends Across" Party should send an
> invitation to Jon-boy!
Now *theres* an IDEA! Nice one Lynn!
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 05:48:58 -0800
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFK
Cindy Brewer asks:
>thought I'd toss this
>question out......if LaCroix had a dog what kind of dog would it be?
Someone wrote an absolutely hilarious, delightful story on that subject
(and a parody of USA's involvement with FK to boot). It was written
prior to Crescent City Con last year, and showed up there as a story
and coloring book <g>, published by Special Services. They held a
"name the puppy" contest, collecting names submitted by attendees, and
Nigel got to judge and pick the three best names. (Can't remember what
they were, but at least two of them were blood-related.)
The story was later reprinted in Knightbeat VI. It's called Pet
Peeves, by Renata Johnson. I think she must be a Cousin <g>!
Some choice lines, all from the first page: "It was all Nicholas'
fault of course. It usually was." (The opening lines.)
"You know, LaCroix, you really should get a dog."
"A dog?"
"Yeah, you know, something loyal and obedient to worship at your feet.
After all, I won't be around ALL the time."
"Do you think mortals are any better? Take the changes to your radio
show, for instance. Why settle for intelligent scripts and complex,
entertaining stories? Instead, throw in lots of glitz and sex. Presto!
Entertainment for the masses!"
"Not that Nick begrudged Janette any happiness (OK, maybe just a
little), but what was he supposed to do when she was gone if he needed
clues, contacts, words of wisdom or a little necking? Even Natalie was
making noises about Nick committing to their relationship, instead of
stringing her along. Geez, what did they expect, emotional maturity?"
If you want to see the rest, write to Special Services. Someone posted
the address a few days ago, I believe. The address is also listed on
the merchandise page of Jasmine's website, I believe.
Laurie Fenster
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:03:58 -0500
From: Matthew F Funke <mff@h.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFKW
> ...if LaCroix had a dog what kind of dog would it be?
I guess you'd have to ask someone who's had some culinary experience
with them. "Dogs are for lunch." -- Blind Faith
(Of course, there's the old joke about dogs and good eating: "101
Ways to Wok Your Dog"...)
-- Lost in the Shadows,
Dr Funke (mff@h.......)
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:17:50 -0500
From: Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......>
Subject: Re: Call from TriStar
On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Eliot wrote:
> At 07:45 PM 1/31/96 -0800, you wrote:
> > **The local station's calls, letters or buying signals
> > or improved Nielsen ratings will make the difference.**
>
> Improved Nielsen ratings would be fantastic IF the show was
> broadcast at a fairly decent time...I'd even settle for the witching hour of
> midnight! But 1:00 A.M., 2:00 A.M., 3:00 A.M.; only the hookers, junkies,
> cops, and those lucky enough to have night jobs are around at those times!
Tell me about it! In the Detroit area, FK is broadcasted 1:00 or 2:00 am,
Sunday mornings and repeated at *4:00 am* Fridays. Nielsens are probably
in bed by then.
--tsd@u.......
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:26:44 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Nice words about Toronto in Newsweek, and ObFK
That well-known hotbed of writers, my law office, has produced
yet another one...
Next Monday in Newsweek, look for an article praising Canada in
general, and Toronto in particular, by Susan Kaplan, the youngest lawyer
in our office. It will be towards the front, in the "My Turn" column.
We're on a roll here... my book of poems comes out in two weeks,
and our former colleague Pat Gilfillan who moved to LA last September as a
screenwriter has been signed by CAA -- and by Tom Cruise's agent (team of
8 agents, actually) in particular!
ObFK... where's Vachonnnnnnnn.......???
Laura
Assistant Counsel for Appellate Literary-ness
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 06:43:25 -0800
From: Chuck Harding <charding@e.......>
Subject: Re: YKYBWTMFK-W
On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Swordsister wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Heather Thornburg wrote:
>
> > YKYBWTMFK-W you are wayching a cooking show, and they bring out a bottle
> > of beer called "OLD NICK" and you start to laugh histeracly. Because
> > you picture Nick with a long beard and cane.
>
> Actually, I was always tickled by "Road Knight" been, with the little
> armadillo on it. I always get a picture of Nick on his motorcycle with a
> ten gallon hat and big goofy macho manly-man shades. FK keeps me
> entertained at the strangest places...
>
I brought a 6-pack of "Old Nick" to one of the FK parties at Karin Wellss'
condo, (Hi Karin!!) for the 2nd season premiere, and really cracked everybody
up when I read the back label on the bottle, which has a line about it's
"BRICK-red color". This made it onto the quote list which should be in the
archives. YKYBWTMFK indeed!
--
***Forever Knight has been cancelled by USA.*** If you want to help
efforts to reverse this decision, visit the official Save FK Webpage!
at http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send
me private email for more information. Thank you.
charding@e....... http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/2442
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:47:50 -0500
From: "Sharon A. Himmanen" <romana@p.......>
Subject: Calls to syndies
Made another round of calls today, and made sure my calls and my comments
were logged (be sure to do that, particularly about moving to a different
timeslot). WLIG took my name and number. WNYW just logged the call.
Didn't speak at length to either station--they all seemed a bit cranky.
The woman at WNYW said that TriStar is wrong, that while she couldn't be
certain she was pretty sure their representatitve asked for FK at NATPE.
I asked her about moving FK to a better timeslot and she said they probably
wouldn't (that's when she logged my call and comment). Then she told me
that the ratings for something like FK are based on the number of sets on
or something. I think I remember reading once that that's how overnight
ratings are done, but it's kind of fuzzy. I wondered how in the heck
they'd know what you were tuned to, but I guess they might be able to tell
by the frequency of what's being picked up or something. Perhaps someone
with a lot more knowledge than I can expand on this.
However, it occurred to me that one way to get the ratings up (in probably
a teeny, tiny, miniscule way and I'm probably being terribly naive but
anyway . . .), if this is true, is for the people who normally tape the
show to actually sit up and watch it or have it on while they sleep. It's
a killer here in New York, but I do it every weekend and I'm still alive.
In fact, I usually have both sets on.
Anyway, can someone with more knowledge talk about the overnight ratings,
which this woman is obviously talking about. Don't know if TriStar is
talking about the same thing or not, but the people at WNYW seem to pay
more attention to the overnights.
Sharon
--
Sharon Himmanen * romana@p........ Forever Knight has been cancelled.
To help save it, check out
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or send me email
ASAP!
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 08:34:40 -0700
From: Dorothy Elggren <delggren@m.......>
Subject: Fever on USA
For those looking for Fever, the USA Today lists it for tonight on USA.
So far they haven't been wrong. So warm up your VCR.
Dorothy
delggren@es.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 09:40:13 -0600
From: Shadow <teresak@i.......>
Subject: Gift Idea's: THANKS!
Hi Gang!
Just want to pass along a general THANKS for the idea's sent to me
about what to send our crew in Toronto... The overall consensus
was Popcorn! So this weekend I'm off to get various kinds
from the store (pre-bagged and microwavable) to send off on
Monday.
Thanks again for the inspiration!
- Teresa K.
NatPack, Nebraska Chapter
--
(\ "I'm going to dream with my eye's wide open"
( \ ,-^,> teresak@i.......
_( _)/ /\|
,;`( )__, ) FOREVER KNIGHT needs your HELP! or it's Hastala Bye Bye!
, // // '|__ Visit the FK Home Page for More Details!
| \ | ^ http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 10:45:40 EST
From: MS ANNE P PINZOW <TBZY17B@p.......>
Subject: The demise of the Neilsons
Dear List,
I've heard about all the great stuff that happened at NAPTE . Great
work, wonderful, amazing! All of you are to be congradulated for a
bold and brilliant move. Unfortunately not word one of it appeared in
Variety. This is not your fault, it is their's but I think that one of
the people who went to NAPTE should send this report to them as well as
to the other trade papers.
Also, I think all of you might be interested in what's been happening
in the big industry back rooms.
What follows is something I got off of the Dow Jones/News Retrieval
system
PRODIGY (R) interactive personal service 01/31/1996 10:49:26 AM
COMPANY NEWS (sm) provided by Dow Jones/News Retrieval Copyright (c)
1996 Dow Jones & Company
Symbol Searched: GE
1/29/96 Frustrated NBC Mulls Creating Rival To Nielsen Rating Service
By Elizabeth Jensen
Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal
NEW YORK -- NBC, frustrated with what it says are problems with the
viewership ratings it gets from Nielsen Media Research, is exploring
creating a rival service.
At a private meeting last week, NBC Television Network President Neil
Braun told the network's affiliates that he asked well-respected
research firm Statistical Research Inc. for a business plan for the
creation of a national measurement system that could provide an
alternative to Nielsen.
Television industry criticisms of Nielsen, a unit of Dun & Bradstreet
Corp. and the sole source of national TV ratings, have been mounting.
Last week, Chase Carey, chairman of News Corp.'s Fox Television unit,
publicly attacked the quality of Nielsen's service, calling it
"unprofessional and unacceptable." Mr. Carey said Fox is looking at
everything from legal action that would force Nielsen to improve its
service to bankrolling the creation of a rival.
Mr. Braun said he requested the plan because NBC's researchers,
programmers, advertisers and affiliates "all expressed tremendous
frustration with the Nielsen organization because it is not responsive
to customer needs." He said the network's complaints, which he declined
to discuss in elaborate detail, involved "consistency issues," adding
that, "We want the reliability that businesses need."
John Dimling, Nielsen's president and chief operating officer, said
Nielsen, at the request of clients, has made major improvements in
recent years. The service, he said, "is simply better."
A new venture wouldn't come cheaply: Industry executives estimated it
would cost more than $50 million. If sponsored by NBC or another
network, a rival service could potentially have credibility problems
with advertisers, as well, although Mr. Braun said NBC doesn't want to
own any Nielsen competitor.
Nielsen was left with a monopoly in national and local market ratings
in recent years after two competitors pulled out of the business
because they couldn't find enough industry support.
Westfield, N.J.-based SRI, which is privately held, produces network
radio ratings, as well as customized work for TV, advertising and
telecommunications industry clients. General Electric Co.'s NBC,
Capital Cities/ABC Inc. and Westinghouse Electric Corp.'s CBS, through
an industry group called the Committee on Television Audience
Measurement (Contam), are already working with SRI on a three-year, $27
million test of new ways of gathering ratings. The networks have an
antitrust waiver from the U.S. Justice Department that allows them to
work together on research methodology issues.
The Philadelphia area-test, dubbed Smart, was designed to spur
improvement in Nielsen. SRI President Gale Metzger said the company "is
interested in seeing the real improvements we think we've defined
incorporated in a national service," including Nielsen's. He declined
to say how he would respond to NBC.
Mr. Braun said he hoped the SRI request would "get Nielsen's
attention" and spur changes, "but monopolists don't usually act that
way." He said he expects to get an answer from SRI in about six weeks,
at which point, "I may look at it and say there is no way to make a
business out of it."
(END) DOW JONES NEWS 01-29-96
6 15 AM
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:06:20 -0400
From: Antonia Mandry <MA97AD14@a.......>
Subject: KNIGHTBEAT
can somebody tell me the address of Knightbeat so I can order a pic of Vachon?
thanks toni
(who's trying to figure out how to shorten her sig and not destroy the sword
she had such a hard time creating ...e rg)
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:17:27 -0500
From: vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: Call from TriStar
On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, Eliot wrote:
> At 07:45 PM 1/31/96 -0800, you (someone) wrote:
> > **The local station's calls, letters or buying signals
> > or improved Nielsen ratings will make the difference.**
>
> Improved Nielsen ratings would be fantastic IF the show was
> broadcast at a fairly decent time...I'd even settle for the witching hour of
Re this whole 1.7 thing. Who's neilsen rating is this? Is this a
combined result of both USA and syndicated stations? Do the stations
have a reading of 1.5 and USA of 1.7 for a total of 3.2? That is the
problem that I see. Just where is this 1.7 rating coming from?
|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
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