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Digest - 29 Jan 1996 to 30 Jan 1996 - Special issue

30 Jan 1996

There are 41 messages totalling 1010 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Diet Coke!
  2. Getting Nick off the Titantic
  3. FK Icons
  4. Web Page Redesign
  5. War? War? ah, noooo.... (2)
  6. embarrassing request
  7. YKY...
  8. Ger Wallpaper (4)
  9. A strange thought..
 10. FK Merchandise
 11. V&V discussion's over, guys
 12. Gemini Nominations
 13. <No subject given>
 14. Interesting billboard
 15. my web page
 16. Trying to locate
 17. Tracy-Vachon faction
 18. SOS:  Distributors
 19. And now a word from our sponsor
 20. LARPers etc.
 21. FK actor on Due South?
 22. Special Service
 23. A lobby for viewers
 25. "Base 64" encoded stuff
 26. Titanic/ Breathing vampires
 27. Various List Stuff
 28. accidentally unsubscribed
 29. Religious imagery
 30. NATPE / where to write?
 31. Special Services and merchandise
 32. Darkangel's Web Site
 33. Shirtless scene
 34. Now I'm MAD - keyboard smoking
 35. OBNon-FKIC & YKYB... :-)
 36. Extra Canadian Bits (was RE: Shirtless Scenes)
 37. Fan-Q Award Nominations


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:09:38 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Diet Coke!

Someone will be very happy, because I believe that the escape clause in
their "if we get the rest of season 3" resolution has been engaged.

Who was it again that gave up drinking Diet Coke?  The escape clause, if
I recall, was that this resolution would be abandoned if Diet Coke became
a sponsor of "Forever Knight."

Last night at about 2:55am this person's dream came true.  At least here
in Philadelphia, the syndicated version of FK had an ad for Diet Coke
just about smack-dab in the middle of the episode.  "Just for the taste
of it...."  A beautiful ad, really, and I would have run over to grab a
Diet Coke myself if it hadn't been 2:55am.

I think this was one of the national ads, but those in other markets
might want to check their tapes before we let this person off the hook on
her resolution.

Suggested new resolution:  the individual in question should call Diet
Coke's consumer information line at 1-800-438-2653 and tell them that
thanks to their sponsorship of such a fantastic television program as
"Forever Knight," she has returned to drinking massive quantities of this
delightful caffeinated/carbonated beverage.  And she should get their
snail-mail address and send it to Karen Tobin (ktobin@t.......) or Debbie
Bennett (XFF Raven@a.......), the keepers of the sponsors list, so we can
all write to Diet Coke, too.

And whoever gave up Pepsi (that was someone else's resolution, right?),
find their number and call them to ask why they *aren't* sponsoring the


* Allison Percy, a perky Knightie            percy91@w.......          *
*    __o     Pedal for Forever Knight & for a worthy charity!          *
*  _`\<,_    Contact me to pledge support or join the ride.  For info  *
* (*)/ (*)   see http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~percy91/FKtour.html  *


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:21:12 CST
From:    Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: Getting Nick off the Titantic

In: "Re: Getting Nick off the Titantic", mailed on Mon, 29 Jan 96 13:06:19 CST
 , Stephanie Babbitt wrote:

> Cousin Lisa wrote:
> >My guess is that he either
> >managed to swim to one of the life boats that did get off -- I don't


> moving oneself into the fifth dimension (the fourth dimension being time)
> and instead of moving oneself between two points over time, moving the two
> points together, bypassing time altogether. Maybe our vampires' access to
> this fifth dimension helps to explain their remarkable longevity. Then
> again, maybe I just read too much. :-)
> Stephanie Babbitt
> Vaquera in training

Don Durham replied:

I think I making too much of this.  I'll make one more post and drop it.

What we're probably talking about is being able to teleport.  It would explain
the sudden disappearance of various FKV's from closed rooms, and the lack of
any resultant air disturbance.  As far as I am concerned, Nick teleported
himself out of there, and onto a waiting ship/lifeboat.  Again, there must be
a large energy debit to get oneself long distances, but I am not going to
attempt to figure that out.

Now I lay me down to bed,                       |Don Durham
Darkness can't engulf my head,                  |Don.durham@d.......
I can see by infrared,                          |000-000-0000 voice
God I love the night!   LL after Marvin,tPA     |000-000-0000 beep


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:45:04 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: FK Icons

For those who asked:

The FK Icons you can get from (one of) my ftp sites:


It's a zip file, which means you have to unzip it (WinZip 5.6)

Hoping to maybe put 'em up on the FORKNI-L ftp site soon.

KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. -- The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N.
NatPack -- Mercenary -- SFK WebGoddess
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:08:52 -0500
From:    Harper <RCMANN@d.......>
Subject: Web Page Redesign

   Cousin Jamie said:
   >I've just finished a redesign of the SFK page (guess who finally
   >learned how to use anchors?<g>) and I'd love it if people would go and
   >check it out, tell me if there are any problems.
   >What, you don't have the url memorized?

   Nope, got it bookmarked.  :-)

Harper *** rcmann@d....... *** "Mostly Harmless" -- Douglas Adams
"Go to the coffee-house..." -- Lord Byron

Save "Forever Knight"!  For details see the web page at:


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:12:51 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: Re: War? War? ah, noooo....

Deb boasts:
> with a war. It's simply tht I am going to California in April and am
> dropping in on Dianne for a couple of days while I am there.
> Virtual theft....my elbow. I am going *out* there. <vbg>

Oh just you *try* it dearest!!!

(oh and that reminds me... Oh Maureeeeeeeeeeeen? <vvvwg>)
The No-Longer-Mad Ex-Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
     ***"We ARE War 6!" -- The Magnificent Seven :-)***
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:16:34 -0500
From:    Inanna Arthen <Vyrdolak@a.......>
Subject: embarrassing request

Hi, folks --

     Am I embarrassed!  I never thought I'd be doing this!  I'm throwing
myself at the feet of everyone on list....

    Due to a problem with my credit card, AOL deactivated my account for part
of Thursday, January 25.  (It figures.  I donate blood, they deactivate my
account.)  I didn't realize this and get it straightened out until about
11:00pm Thursday night, and by then I'd been booted off 2 mailing lists, I
assume for bounced mail.

    When I tried to re-sub to FORKNI-L, I got messages saying that the list
was "locked".  This went on for two days.  I'm completely mystified about
this, but because I didn't want to keep spamming the server, I ended up not
getting back on the list until Sunday evening.

     Can anyone send me the digests I missed, or direct me to a site where I
might pick them up???  I'm very, VERY frustrated to have missed the NATPE
updates, Nigel's post (for the second time!!) and everything else.  Please
post me privately -- I'm willing to reciprocate with letter ghostwriting  ;-}
, copies of eps (I have 2 VCR's and all of season 2), or, being on AOL
(growl...) I could get the log of Ger's conference for anyone who wants it.
 I'd be *SO* appreciative!!  Thanks!!!

Cyfnither Inanna

   NAPTE Strike Team -- I'm in awe.  Words can't even express it.  I'm so
excited to have been a part of this -- and I feel like such a do-nothing!!
 *I* could *never* have pulled off something like this.  But I was right
about one thing.  You guys HAVE made history.  And I *am* gearing up for
Phase 2...


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:26:27 -0700
From:    Corvia Noctis <jln8817@s.......>
Subject: Re: YKY...

It is amazing what happens on campuses...

Well, I got sucked into watching "Showgirls" yester eve and the girl who
played hope was so close to looking like our favorite Perkulator, that I
about died.

Today, during ameeting on our school's solar car this large man walked in
and looked straight at me and I would have sworn that is was LC.  They
have the same haircut and nose, but this one spoke with a heavy
Norweigien accent.  'gosh it's nice that most of the ME dept. is foreign,


 To: Jethro Tull, Ranma 1/2, Sarah McLachlan, Vamps and ALL of the
Night's creatures under the Goddess's Crescent Moon....


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:22:55 -0800
From:    Roni Power <bach@c.......>
Subject: Re: Ger Wallpaper


On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Dotti Rhodes wrote:
> Hey - me too!! Except mine is, when I get out of Windows Nick says "Word to
> the wise - immortality is no excuse not to floss". (Ho ho)

Ok.  How's this?  My computer opens with the opening bars of "Princes of
the Universe".  Everytime I make a mistake I get Nick's "Somebody shoot
me--please?"  And when exiting windows I get Klaus' line from Draula: The
Series "I don't want to be brought back..."
It drives my husband nuts!  :-)


Schanke-He's a *Good* Cop! With |Pinky are you pondering what I'm pondering?
*Good* Instincts! Become A FoD! |  I think so Brain but if we didn't have
Roni Power  bach@c.......  O+ FoD|      ears, we'd look like weasels.


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:53:12 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: A strange thought..

  Ok..so call me weird,but I would like to see Uncle and Tracy hooked
up together AND a "raunchy" night of lust between Vachon and Nat....
And I can't help thinking that a pairing between Tracy and Vachon would
equal *traction*...a reflection on their pairing maybe or the ramblings of
a *very* sick mind...

   Save Forever Knight! Write to your local affiliate!
   E-Mail me for details!
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Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:53:16 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: FK Merchandise

*** have a web pag and a phone number so I'll keep bugging them to see if they
>couldn't possibly get someone from FK there, not only cast people, but people
>like Fred Mollin or James Parriot or Ms. Horvath would be interesting guests
>I would think.

        Hi! Would you please pass along the web page address to us please?
   Save Forever Knight! Write to your local affiliate!
   E-Mail me for details!
   Save FK Homepage:http//members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:56:40 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: V&V discussion's over, guys

>Ahm, I realize some of us may not remember, but Jaye specifically said
>by listowner fiat that there would be no further discussion of the
>V&V post. So please, let's stop, ok? This is an internet mailing list,
>not a newsgroup. When an owner says a discussion is to stop, it stops
>or the owner can take steps to prevent it.

Hi Lisa,
        Thank you! I was cringing every time I saw the header or
topic,whatever yo call it and I'm glad that you said something. :)
   Save Forever Knight! Write to your local affiliate!
   E-Mail me for details!
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Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:12:18 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Ger Wallpaper

>(I have a graphic bitmap of the FK logo and TO skyline as a full-screen
>background, FK icons, .wav files -- am using up 2 meg of space I can't
>afford to keep the FK theme as my start-up sound -- AND I found a neat
>program that replaces the Windows logo start-up screen with something else,
>so the FK logo comes up upon start-up.)

WAH! I want lessons!!!! Its not like a cousin to cry,so might I bribe you
with some chocolate???? The wav files I have mastered,its on to wallpaper!!!
No,no I haven't been drinking...just lack of sleep...
   Save Forever Knight! Write to your local affiliate!
   E-Mail me for details!
   Save FK Homepage:http//members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:07:50 PST
From:    June Russell <Kat@g.......>
Subject: Re: Gemini Nominations

:March 3 is the "big" night, that's
:the one that's televised, and when most of the acting awards are given

Are they run on US tv? If not, I suspect a lot of us would like copies (just
to see how our gang is presented).


pacifier.com!grendal!kat    kat@g.......
Heu! Tintinnuntius meus Sonat!


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:04:30 -0800
From:    Amy Bittenbinder <lashoka@p.......>
Subject: <No subject given>

who ever is in charge of listserv functions...I am no longer able to
access my accout at  the address I was subscribed from. I need someone to
remove that address from the subscription lists
lashoka@p.......   thank you greatly, I need both the
forkni-l and fkfic lists removed from the above addresses, thank you.


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:06:07 -0500
From:    Teresa Davidson <davidson@r.......>
Subject: Interesting billboard

I always think of y'all when I drive past a huge billboard on Rt. 581
through Roanoke, Virginia. It has a graphic of a large bird (a crane, I
think) with a frog hanging out of both sides its beak. In huge letters the
caption reads "Don't EVER give up!" ;-)

BTW, the billboard isn't visibly credited to anyone or any business.

Teresa Davidson, Ravenette Classic


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 18:06:43 -0800
From:    Amy Bittenbinder <lashoka@p.......>
Subject: my web page

Hi ya'll!

Just a quick note to let you all know that my web page, and the ever
increasing lists of ppl with FK web pages [PLEASE! IF YOURE NOT ON MY
LIST< SEND ME YOUR URL!] has moved to http://pandora.st.hmc.edu/~lashoka
Please, check the page and see if your page is listed there, if not, send
me yoru url...I am attempting to keep the most updated list of FK pages

Cousin Lashoka


Date:    Tue, 30 Jan 1996 13:16:23 +1000
From:    Lisa Sutherland-Fraser <lfraser@p.......>
Subject: Trying to locate

Sorry to use this trying to locate someone on the list, but
I wanna send a message to Sally Williams.  I cannot send her
something on the address I have, sorry guys.  Sally I want to
tell you about the Koala Vampires...
Darkest blessings and humblest apologies.


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:26:09 -0500
From:    Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: Tracy-Vachon faction

Samantha Smiley writes:

>I have an idea for the Tracy + Vachon faction. Why doesn't
>your faction's name be the Young Ones. I mean they are the
>youngest in the show.  And the newest. Do you guys like that?

Even though I'm not a member, FWIW, I like it.

*A lot*. :)

Felicia Bollin
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*SOS-FAQ and Optimists Club FAQ


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:25:58 -0500
From:    Felicia Bollin <AriCon@a.......>
Subject: SOS:  Distributors

Lynne Ackerman wrote (from the Bedard and Lalonde article:)

>and is distributed in the States by Screen Gems

Screen Gems?  <ears perk up>  *Distributors*?

Doesn't that mean they deserve nice letters too???

Felicia Bollin
Ravenette*Immortal Beloved*SOS-FAQ/Optimists' Club FAQ Maintainer


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:45:30 -0500
From:    June Williams <cousin@w.......>
Subject: And now a word from our sponsor

Have most have you been swamped with letters from sponsors replying
politely to your own little missives extolling their excellent judgement
in supporting FK ?  Until today, the letters I received were pleasant but
indicated that while as sponsors they were happy that I enjoyed the show
and used their product, they themselves could do nothing but wish me well.
Several companies, like Wrigley, have tryed to be helpful.  They said they
had no control regarding the cancellation, and suggested "Sending your
letter to the USA network is the most effective way to let the producers
of this program know there are plenty of "Forever Knight" fans in the
audience.  You may be interested to know that we've received quite a few
letters like yours, and we wish all of you the best in your efforts to
keep this show on the air."  I am happy to say that PIER 1 IMPORTS was the
exception to this rule.  The response is as follows: Dear June,

Thank you for your letter regarding Forever Knight.  We appreciate your
interest in the programming on which we have chosen to air our commercials.

We have received many letters from viewers who are quite concerned about
the possible cancellation of this show.  We share your interest in
keeping this program on the air and have forwarded all of the letters
that we have received to the appropriate party at USA Network.

Thank you again for your interest and concern for taking the time to
share your thoughts with us.

Phil Schneider
Sr. Vice President of Marketing

CC: Mr Rod Perth
    USA Network Programming
    0000 Xxxxxxx Xxxx Xxxx
    Xxxxx 0000
    Xxx Xxxxxxx, XX 00000

    Mr. Neil Hoffman
    Vice President
    USA Network Programming
    0000 Xxxxxx Xx Xxx Xxxxxxxx
    00xx Xxxxx
    Xxx Xxxx, XX 00000

Now that's what I call helpful.  Should I have told them that I buy all
my lamp shades at Pier 1 ?  It's true but it would make me seem a little
more ditzy than I already do.  You all know it's a great place to shop
don't ya'.  Well don't you need something to spruce up the place after
all those dismal winter afternoons ?

Don't forget to keep contacting sponsors.  FK viewer demos are fantastic
so let them know you'll shop till you drop.

Ad Astra-June-cousin@w.......


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:47:59 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: War? War? ah, noooo....

        As Perkulator #2, and in default of strong leadership (to which I
may defer when it shows up if it doesn't remind me too much of my
father), I wish to state that I believe my proper role in any war is...
to make peace.  That's what perky people do:  they want to buy the world
a Coke, and make it sing in perr-fect harr-mmooo-nneeee.

        This perception of my role, I might add, coincides with my
natural inclination as a Vaquera to do nothing more than blink when war
goes by, unless a yummy prey walks right into my path.

Respectfully submitted,



Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:22:40 -0500
From:    Ronni Katz <Questinc@a.......>
Subject: LARPers etc.

Hi all!

I got about 50 or so more folks writing in to TPTB to save FK!  I passed out
flyers with the SOS info on te\hem at a LARP I was at last weekend and a LTO
fo FK fans were there who didn't know the show was in danger of cancellation.
 They knew USA didn't have new eps and were watching it on the syndi channel
in our area (NYC) but dodn't know the show was in danger of being NO MORE!

Now they know and we have MORE folks writing in to SOS!  I also put flyers in
our local gaming shops.  A lot of gamers watch FK - there is a crossover.
 I'll be brining SOS flyers to LunaCon and to Gamer's Con in March.  I can't
 afford to do any Cons in February :( but I hope the local efforts being done
out here in NJ help....

I send in my $ for PAF & the bag/EM fund.  Will be giving blood this weekend
(providing I don't get bounced *again* for being anemic!)  I'm eating meat
(ugh!) and taking iron pills.  Yeah, I know, an *anemic Enforcer*??  Well,
being semi-vegetarian will do that if you aren't careful....

I'm still in the fight to dave the Knight!!!

I also still have CERK shirts & bumper stickers to sell (all profits STILL go
to PAF!!)  I'd like to have them all gone and a nice BIG check to send to
Lisa before the cutoff date in February.  If you are interested, Email me

Ron the Enforcer


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:29:31 -0800
From:    Valery King <kingv@u.......>
Subject: Re: FK actor on Due South?

Speaking of which, I heard a rumor that Nigel Bennett will be making a
guest appearance on DS this season. Is this true, or only somebody's
wishful thinking? Mr. B?

We're getting a crossover the other direction this weekend, folks.
Catherine Bruhier, who plays Elaine in DS, will be featured in "The Games
Vampires Play" on FK.



Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 19:48:23 -0800
From:    Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: Special Service

<You need to send  a 64 center(SASE)  to get a catolog.

Um what is a 64 center???? I would love to get a catolog but an not quite
sure what to send them...

Love,                         \|/
Wendy Marie                  |o o|


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:45:08 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Ger Wallpaper

Re: the program which replaces the start-up Windows screen:

I downloaded it from Compuserve, and have never gotten around to asking the
guy if he minds if I share it, and so cannot make it available to others
(yet).  However, if you're on Compuserve, go to the SF MEDIA 2 section
(where FK is) and look in the libraries under "Red Dwarf" -- the original
program changes the start-up screen to a RD logo.  I can make the FK
equivalent available; the logo, I did myself.

KEEP THE FAITH! -- Jamie M.R. -- The Illustrated C.O.U.S.I.N.
NatPack -- Mercenary -- SFK WebGoddess
THIS IS WAR #6. And this time, it's personal.


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:50:38 -0500
From:    A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: A lobby for viewers

 I was talking to a friend of mine over breakfast, both of us marveling at
the NAPTE 7 and I t got me to thinking the future impact of that event.
Imagine the strike force being a regular feature at tv conventions like that.
Fans, actual VIEWERS, people the programmers supposedly cater to, LOBBYING
for their shows. Maybe not in the same manner but a political action
committee (PAC) for shows. It works in Washington why not in Hollywood. What
a concept. It would certainly undermine the Nielsens monolithic hold over
ratings. It would give the TV producers a jolt of well needed reality . It
would give viewers some say in programming. Hmmm. The more I think about it
the more I like it.
A Mc " I must stay out of touch more often"


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:11:27 -0700
From:    Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>

Can any one send me a copy of this? I don't know how to download on this
system or anything *fancy* like that. Pretty please? <me on my knees begging>

Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:12:25 -0500
From:    "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: "Base 64" encoded stuff

Okay, I *have* to complain  here...

What is this goober stuff that people post that takes up the whole
screen and has some junk before it, including things like
"content-transfer-encoding: base64"??

I personally don't care if the stuff is included, but I'd like to
know what I need to use to DE-encode it? Is this UUEncoding? Is this
PGP? What is it? And if it's PC-only, please note that not all of the
list members are IBM-heads. ;> I own an Amiga, which makes my range
of choices for decoding methods REAL interesting...

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    Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nightmist@g.......
    or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:54:26 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Titanic/ Breathing vampires

On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Matthew F Funke wrote:

  We've seen that vampires breathe, but do we have evidence that
> they *must* breathe?  It's possible for this explanation, too, that he
> swam during the night and submerged for the day.  Got me.

        Submerged for the day -- actually was the explanation that
occurred to me, then I figured he could sneak onto the Carpathia or
something.  About breathing.. in Black Buddha, if not before, we saw that
in need vampires can hide from the sun by digging into the ground -- it's
what both Vachon and the Inca did the morning after they were made.



Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:22:31 -0700
From:    Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Various List Stuff

Ok, so I am just now catching up but anyway:

On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Nancy McCaskey wrote:
> Could this be the beginning of the next War, as each faction tries to
> accumulate the greatest number of mugs before a deadline? :)
Count me in!

> > Am I the only one envisioning it as an oversized childrens' book, filled
> >  pastel watercolor illustrations of happy vampires?  And thinking that this
> > is one piece of tie-in merchandise that I would quite possibly kill for?
> Do we have any artists on-list who'd actually be willing to DO this?
> Inquiring minds want to know!
Me! Me! Me! I'd do it! Oh, how much fun that would be!

> >        Thank you and congratulations to the NATPE strike force, for your
> > positive energy, persistence, creativity and the very entertaining reports
> > you posted.
Bravo! Brava! Give yourself a round of applause and many pats on the back!
Virtual 10 lb. chocolate bars to you all!

Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:19:00 EST
From:    Maria Montalvo <maria@m.......>
Subject: accidentally unsubscribed

I just found out that somehow I was unsubscribed from FKFIC-L (earlier
this year I got accidentally nomailed on all 3 lists (and no, I didn't do
anything to deserve it)).  So if you haven't been receiving any fiction,
I'd check your subscription....



Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:27:36 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Religious imagery

Okay, here's my question, and please forgive if this question's been
discussed already (I'm new to the show and to this list), but I was wondering
if there are any FK vampires older than Christianity?  From the age list that
was posted recently, I see LC is 1917 (happy birthday, wouldn't you love to
see the fire hazard on that b-day cake?).  I was curious, and wondered if
pre-Christian religious symbols repelled FK vampires, a la crucifixes.  I
mean, the swastika (not the Nazi version) is 10,000 years old, isn't it?  And
do Stars of David have any effect?  I don't mean to be impertinent, I'm just
riddled with curiosity! :)

Oh wait, and I have one more question: Is "Urs" short for "Ursula", or
"Ursa", like the heavenly constellation of the bear?

*Cousin Tippi*
"I may be crazy, but I am not insane."  --Tippi, to Tippi


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:30:32 -0500
From:    "Tammy Pond  [Digest]" <nightmist@g.......>
Subject: NATPE / where to write?

I've dropped my check in the mail for the NATPE bag fund. All $50 of
it. <grin> I would have sent it last week, except I lost track of the
envelope. I finally gave up looking for it and sent a new one. So
anyway, that should be arriving some time in the next couple days.

I *again* visited my local syndie, only to find that the programming
director was first out to lunch, then in a meeting. I guess I'll try
to make an appointment to talk to him. I've discovered that if I act
MOSTLY professionaly, and carry a briefcase, people don't think
you're a flake. Might want to think about this, guys. Just remember
to be POLITE when talking to these people.

I actually got to see a copy of Electronic Media  - Wooooo! It wasn't
the issue with the advert, it was the NATPE issue with what looked
like a big casino wheel on the cover. I saw the article that's
chewing up the Nielsen system and read it thoroughly, but couldn't
find any mention of FK in it. Is there any in this particular issue?
If so, what's the page number? I searched through it twice.

Now that NATPE is over, is there any specific place to direct renewal
letters to? Is TriStar still the primary target or is it now USA?
(Yes, I realize I need to write to all of them, but I'm wondering
who's the primary target? <g>)

             General stuff

RE: Nick/flying across the atlantic

How long does it take to fly across the ocean? It could simply be
that Nick had to be smuggled by the Constantines simply because he
would not have been able to make it across the ocean before sunup...

As far as Vachon goes, it's been stated that he simply likes flying
by airplane. If he needed to put distance between him and the Inca
before the advent of airplanes, what would he have used, anyway?

Spamming for FOREVER KNIGHT!!                 The Mad Fax Spammer
    Save the Forever Knight TV show! Write nightmist@g.......
    or visit this web site (Site name *IS* case sensitive!!!):


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:35:42 -0700
From:    Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Special Services and merchandise

Can someone please send or resend me the address to Special Services?

Marg Rothschild, knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight** write me at: margr@i.......
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:47:49 -0800
From:    Elizabeth Ann Lewis <elewis@u.......>
Subject: Darkangel's Web Site

Apologies if this has already been covered, but I'm knee-deep in digests...

Was Darkangel's FKFIC Website taken down on purpose?  Will it be up soon?

Please e-mail me at elewis@u......., since heaven only knows when I'm going
to manage to get through all the digests I have pilling up!  :)


Methos Flagwaver |~~~~~~~~~
Merc (What do you expect?  I'm a starving student!)
"Arnyd yw Ewyll hyd yw"--Passion is the will to be
Listowner, Middle Ages Life


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:05:06 -0800
From:    Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: Ger Wallpaper

At 11:26 AM 1/29/96 -0900, you wrote:
>could you share the name of that program that replaces the windows
>stratup with FK.  Please.

YES! and could you do it on the list.  Thanks.
"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......> FK Optimist's Club,  Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
      NATPE Strikeforce Survivor:   The Few, The Proud, The FK Strike Force


Date:    Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:12:24 -0500
From:    Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: Shirtless scene

I wrote:
>you don't see much beyond the very *upper* part of Nick's chest. :(
Marina Bailey writes:
>Hey, I'll take it! :)...you can still see *something*.  That's all I
>want. :)

My :( was only because we didn't see *more*, not that I didn't enjoy
seeing what we did see.  I did enjoy it. :)  I wouldn't mind seeing
whatever part of Nick's body they want to show us (hey, I even liked
seeing his forearm in an episode :) ).  ;)  That doesn't mean though
that I *prefer* the more limited views of him that we usually get.

--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie


Date:    Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:17:20 -0500
From:    Cyndi Knecht <cknecht@m.......>
Subject: Now I'm MAD - keyboard smoking

DESPITE the fact that FK gave FOX 35 in Orlando gangbuster ratings
during sweeps in November (as per SFK web page on Nielsen ratings), I
just discovered today that not only was FK placed back from midnight to
1:00 am, but it was switched in favor of a REPEAT showing of Lazarus
Man, which is shown Wed. evenings at 10:00pm.  THIS MAKES ME SO MAD!

However, I *very* politely and sweetly urged the programming director to
consider these facts and at least move FK back to its former midnight
slot.  All I can say is, this is one FOX affiliate that seems to be
making room for only *one* vampire show - and it ain't ours!  At least
another person told me she called and spoke to the station today (sigh!)
Guess my home-baked cookies weren't all that effective - sorry folks.

That said - we have two other independent stations in town - time to go
sic-em! <Chomp, chomp!>  Anybody else in the area going to join me?
<Pitiful sigh, wobegone sniffle>

Feeling just a tad depressed that she doesn't have any glad tidings to
report from Central Florida...HELP! - Jamie, how can I get some warm
fuzzies?  I need'em real bad.    Cyndi


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:27:04 -0800
From:    Dianne Therese De Sha <maeve@m.......>
Subject: OBNon-FKIC & YKYB... :-)

OBNon-FKFIC <g>:  I could say it's for a fic, but I'd be lying
:-)  It's just been bugging me for _days_ now!  And, as always,
I have faith that The List Knows!

*What's the term for a disease you catch _in_ the hospital?*

There's a term... I _know_ there is!

(o.k... first email back to me with the right answer gets my
next random fic bit-character named for them.  How's that? :-)


YKYBIn SOSFK Too Long When...

...you're watching the Cagney and Lacey movie (looking for
Grace! :-) and hear the sleezy lawyer is named "Jay Kapovlitz"
(sp???) and can't stop laughing...

YKYBeen a Merc Too Long When...

...you see Othello and, while you agree Iago's probably the
nastiest SOB ever written... you can't help but admire his
*technique*... <vwg>


...you're on a job interview and someone's brought their
grandson in to the office and now everyone's chasing around
this little tow-headed kid calling "*Nicholas!*" and you have
to bite your tongue not to make some "Eternal Boy" comment...

...you start averaging more than one "YKYB" per day!!! :-)

The No-Longer-Mad Ex-Digester <g> -*- NATPE Strikeforce Survivor
     ***"We ARE War 6!" -- The Magnificent Seven :-)***
Dianne la Mercenaire... -*- <moonlight@c.......> -*- FoFoD


Date:    Mon, 29 Jan 1996 21:29:13 -0800
From:    K Swanson <kswanson@d.......>
Subject: Extra Canadian Bits (was RE: Shirtless Scenes)

Marina asks:

>I was wondering, for those who saw the Canadian versions of FK first, how
>does seeing that version first colour your interpretation of the episodes?

I, too, have only seen the Canadian versions. I was not really aware of just
how brutal the US cuts were until I was at Valery's con party in Seattle
last May.

 There were about 15 of us in a hotel room, watching Canadian first season
eps.  I particularly remember watching 'Only The Lonely', and hearing
everyone's reactions (shrieks!) to the 'extra' scenes. I hadn't realised how
lucky I was up until that point!!  I would hate to be the one with the
scissors trying to decide what has to go - this is FK, *all* the scenes are
important! <g>

Karyn Swanson


Date:    Tue, 30 Jan 1996 00:24:07 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Fan-Q Award Nominations

It's time again to nominate your favorite Forever Knight stories, poetry,
novels, and Fanzines for the MediaWest*Con Fan Q awards.

The problem is, all nominations MUST be postmarked by 2/15/96(!) and you can
only nominate on an 'official' form (These forms can be photocopied).

You can send a self-addressed stamped envelope to:
Susan L. Cooper
0000 Xxxxxxxxx Xxxxx
Xxxxxxxx Xxxx, XX 00000

or you can e-mail me and I'll pop a few into the mail for you tomorrow
(remember to enclose your snail mail address in your message).

I also have a list of fanzines, stories, novels, and poetry eligible for
this year's awards, as well as the rules on how to submit, what to submit,
and when you'll get the final voting ballot.

Last year we managed to get enough entries on the ballot to get Forever
Knight it's own section for best novel, best fanzine, and best short story.
With your help, we can do it again.

Questions, requests for the e-mail list of eligible nominees, and other
sundry items may be sent to me.

Regards and thanks for supporting FK Fiction!
When we get a fourth season, the hair GOES.
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Get all your info for Saving Forever Knight from:


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