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Digest - 26 Jan 1996 - Special issue

26 Jan 1996

There are 25 messages totalling 1068 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. Has anyone tried . . .
  2. FK Topics
  3. Reaction to NATPE reports
  4. Mystery vamp.
  5. FORKNI-L Digest - 25 Jan 1996 to 26 Jan 1996 - Special issue (2)
  6. HERE IT IS: EM ARTICLE!
  7. Who's sexier? (Another lofty topic) (2)
  8. Sugar High Game
  9. help with a story
 10. Fwd: Re: Forever Knight
 11. NATPE Strike Force
 12. SOS: BIG flyer possibilities
 13. Digests
 14. Who's sexier?
 15. NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw, we kicked a little *elbow*! :-)
 16. SOS effects in my neck of the woods (2)
 17. NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw,                we kicked a little
     *elbow*! :-)
 18. My very first post here
 19. Bourbon, and other vamps list
 20. Sending packages to Canada
 21. Special Services #
 22. NATPE REPORT: Diane's Story

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 05:40:33 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: Has anyone tried . . .

Stephania wrote:
>
>Has anyone contacted USA Today (or any other national publication, for
>that matter) about writing an article on the campaign to save Forever
>Knight?

Yes.  Someone has been working on them.  Nothing as of yet.

However, if you have a contact to USA Today, please let us know, as
that might make matters easier.

Laurie Fenster

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:41:16 -0500
From:    Tippi Blevins <TippiNB@a.......>
Subject: Re: FK Topics

Referring to Worthy Topics of Discussion :), ScFiMarci@a....... wrote:

>2. LC amoral or evil?
>Very good question, and just what is evil?  If it's the opposite of good,
>then I guess he is...  I personally don't think a being can be labeled as
>good or evil, only behaviors, and then only according to one's standards or
>belief systems.  Amoral? Not by his "code" as someone else stated.

He's neither amoral nor evil -- he's *wicked*. :)  Wicked is evil with style,
humor, and sex-appeal!

Cousin Tippi

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:45:40 -0500
From:    Ken Hart <Ken888888@a.......>
Subject: Reaction to NATPE reports

I just finished reading my FORKNI digest, and I am in total AWE of what "the
NATPE 7" have accomplished. Congratulations and thanks to all of you!

I'm never any good at these "infiltration" missions; I project a "guilt aura"
whenever I go into a place where I'm not "supposed" to be. It must be my
restrictive Catholic upbringing. <g> Thank goodness you people have no shame!
;)

Ken Hart, Raven  /  Ken888888@a.......  /  http://www.xensei.com/users/khart
LaCroix: "'A father provides love, discipline, guidance, protection, and
support' -- That's not bad."
Nick: "He left out freedom."   LaCroix: "So would I."

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:02:27 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Mystery vamp.

>Does anybody know the name of the other vampire with
>Screed and Vachon in Vachon's flashback during
>MBisaV?  For some reason, I was under the impression
>that his name was Bourbon,

It is, according to the *credits* from MBIAV.  He's also in Hearts of
Darkness.

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                    gryphon@e.......    #
#    WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Ask, and it shall be given to you."  Matthew 7:7    #

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:05:11 +0200
From:    Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 25 Jan 1996 to 26 Jan 1996 - Special issue

I just watched dying for fame today, and I noticed something, the
gutarest looked like Vachon! I know it wasn't the actor, but perhaps
that's how the dude got to toronto in the first place

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 06:24:22 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: HERE IT IS: EM ARTICLE!

Here's the text of the EM article!
If anyone wants a fax of it, let me know.  It appeared on p. 4, was
continued on the inside back page (very good placement in this
publication) and contained a picture from the show of Nick and Schanke.

I think we should so something VERY nice for Wayne Walley and Paul
DaCruz. :-)

AnnMarie, Ken, and whoever is on Genie and Prodigy:  could you please
see that this gets crossposted there?  Everyone can use a little
enthusiasm about now!

Laurie Fenster


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'FOREVER KNIGHT' fans rise up on the Internet

By Wayne Walley, New York Bureau Chief

The Friends of Forever Knight are sometimes described as the 1990s
version of Trekkies.

But these ardent fans of the supernatural police drama "Forever
Knight," which has been cancelled by USA Network and is clinging to
life in syndication, seem to be more organized and sophisticated than
those backing other television shows.

Through the Internet and online services, the Friends of Forever Knight
have mobilized faster and are becoming a force behind keeping the show
alive.

Six members from the West Coast paid their own way to Las Vegas this
week to spread the word at the National Association of Television
Program Executives convention.

Others donated or pledged funds to cover the cost of the tote bags and
flyers the six are giving out this week at the convention center.

This might make it seem like they're supported by Columbia TriStar
Television, the producers and distributors of the syndicated series,
but the Friends and Columbi TriStar say they are acting on their own.

"These are not ringers of any sort.  They are on an adventure to save
our favorite show," said Catherine Siemann, an English literature
doctorate candidate at Columbia University and one of three Friends of
Forever Knight who have volunteered as "point people" to take phone
calls from media and other interested parties.

Annmarie McKee Fitzgerald, a police communications officer in New
Jersey and another point person, said the group has representatives on
America Online, CompuServe, Prodigy and Genie in addition to a 900
member mailing list.  She said one of the "delegates" at NATPE will
have a laptop computer to keep the group apprised.

"We picked up a rumor in December that it would be canceled by USA
Network, and we got confirmation," Ms. Fitzgerald said.  "It snowballed
from there, and we've divided up responsibilities."

They've organized "appreciation" weeks, too, honoring fans, sponsors
and TV station affiliates by sending flowers and letters and making
phone calls to thank people for support.

"Some people even delivered home-baked cookies to TV stations," she
said.

The group, however, does more than just support the show.

Ms. Fitzgerald said the Friends of Forever Knight collected $6,000 in
the last month to donate to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, a favored
charity of the show's star, Geraint Wyn Davies.

Next, she said, is a blood drive, asking fans of the show to go to
their local Red Cross centers.

"The Internet has become a tremendous vehicle for them.  It's replaced
the old letter writing campaign and is more efficient and more timely,"
said Andy Kaplan, senior executive vice president of Columbia TriStar
Television.

The show's producers and stars often go online, participating in live
chats, too.

Mr. Kaplan said Columbia TriStar is committed to completing the show's
latest season in syndication, which will give the company about 70
episodes.

Mr. Kaplan said it has taken a "patchwork of revenue streams" from
syndication, cable and overseas to keep the show going.

A decision about next year hasn't been made, but those 70 hours wil
likely find a home either in syndication as a strip or on a cable
network such as the Sci-Fi Channel.

"Who knows?  Fans of this show are loyal and targeted.  Maybe it will
be around forever and maybe spawn a 'Forever Knight: The Next
Generation," Mr. Kaplan said.

The series, launched in May 1992 as part of CBS' late-night program
block, "Crimetime After Primetime," was rerun the second year and then
moved into first-run syndication in September 1994 with new episodes
when the late-night block was replaced by "Late Show With David
Letterman."

This year USA Network picked it up as an original series, with new
episodes telecast on the cable network and in first-run.

USA, however, said in December that it was canceling the show, spawning
a "Save Forever Knight" site on the World Wide Web and a unique
campaign to get USA to reconsider.

The group asked its members to send lottery tickets to USA, asking that
any winnings go toward keeping the show on the air.

"It was a ploy to get attention, but if one of the tickets hit, it
would be enough to fund more episodes," Ms. Fitzgerald said.

"We thought it would be different than just letters saying 'save our
show.'  We're not a bunch of fanatics in T-shirts.  We're after
information, getting it out to the Internet, and asking people to
spread it further."

One member, Ms. Fitzgerald said, even did a demographic list of the
group, finding that most are college educated or in college.

Ms. Siemann said the Friends of Forever Knight include attorneys,
scientists, college professors and students.

"We have lives, believe me.  I guess ths is just something we felt.  I
have a degree in English literature.  I don't watch much television.  I
thought it would be a giggle when I first watched it, but it was
fantastic," she said.

Then, instead of talking about the virtues of the show and the reasons
why she likes it, Ms. Siemann listed household and demographic ratings
from the November sweeps in markets like Houston, San Francisco, and
Orlando, Florida.

"We feel if the show were marketed properly it would be a huge hit, but
stations are not giving it favorable time slots," she said.

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:31:13 -0500
From:    Lynn McAlpine <Chatelyne@a.......>
Subject: Who's sexier? (Another lofty topic)

Leigh wrote:

<Can't decide who is more sexy LC or GWD--->

Who says we have to pick just one? For that matter, why limit the choices to
two?

Lynn
Chatelyne@a.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:31:14 -0500
From:    Lynn McAlpine <Chatelyne@a.......>
Subject: Re: Sugar High Game

I figure we'll know the editing crew has had a bit too much when someone
forgets to edit out a LaCroix (gasp!) *GIGGLE*.

Lynn
Chatelyne@a.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 08:35:47 +0200
From:    Katrinka <STUKENDALCA@m.......>
Subject: help with a story

I have just started working on the sequel to hammer to fall, and I was
wondering if any one had any suggestions on what they would like to see
in the story. Also, this is important to the story, does anyone know if
there is a rank between captain and detective in the canadaian police
forces? I need to know for a story. If anyone does know, can you e-mail
me privatly?
thanks
Katrinka

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:48:57 -0500
From:    Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: Fwd: Re: Forever Knight

This just landed in my in-basket...Thanks, Jamie, for posting this guy's
address...

*******************************************************************************
***

Dear Katya,


        Thanks for your recent letter of support for the "Forever
Knight" series. Excuse this form letter, but I'm getting a great
many letters about the series, as I'm sure you understand.

        As you may know, Sci-Fi Entertainment magazine is owned in
partnership by the publishing outfit Sovereign Media, Inc. and
the Sci-Fi Channel; and the Channel is owned by the USA Networks,
whose recent decision to discontinue its broadcast of "Forever
Knight" began the current controversy.

        The deadline for our most recent issue was January 4, prior
to USA's official announcement of their decision. However, we did
recieve a few early letters from fans who heard about the
decision prior to the announce date, and two of these will appear
in our next (March-dated) issue, due on stands at the end of
February.

        The Channel and USA Networks have always been very good about
allowing us to run this magazine as we see fit. However, since
many readers regard us as an "official voice" of the Channel (and
therefore of the USA Networks), it seemed wise to consult with
USA on the manner in which we would reply to these letters.

        My usual contact at programming is away at the NATPE convention
this week, so I spoke to a few people at USA before reaching the
media relations department. One programming person told me that
everyone there is fully aware of the organized fan effort. They
seemed particularly amazed at the candygrams.

        Anyway, it was eventually decided that I should speak with the
"Media Relations" department, who told me that it is highly
unlikely that USA will reverse their decision. After a brief
conversation with him, I wrote the following response, which will
be printed along with two letters from FK fans.

Bob Martin ("Ed Flixman")

editor, Sci-Fi Entertainment

        From our next letter column:

        Dear Sir:

        I particularly enjoyed the article about Forever Knight in the
November issue, and the article about "From Dusk Till Dawn" in
the current (December) issue. I find the "vampire concept"
entertaining, and those two productions provide an excellent
contrast in approach to the topic.

        Please write more often about Forever Knight. It's definitely
one of my favorite shows, and I just don't see emough articles
about these wonderful characters (the actors are pretty good
too)!

        Sherri L. Godsey
  Plano, TX


        Thank you so much for the article "Life After Death" on the
TV show Forever Knight that appeared in your December 1995 issue.
Forever Knight truly has risen above terrible time slots in
syndication, little publicity, and several network switches to
live again, and has gained a steadily growing following.

        It conveys a message about hope without being preachy, and
appeals to the common human need to rise above adversity and win
in what should be a no-win scenario. Without the support of
publications like Sci-Fi Entertainment, this little show might go
quietly into the night again...as its new network may be on the
verge of staking it mid-season. Forever Knight deserves a better
fate than this.  I hope your magazine will continue to support
the show!

        Lisa Wolters
  MVRJasper@a.......

        We continue to support the show Forever Knight, its cast and
crew and fans; and we applaud the loyalty the show's fans have
displayed in recent weeks.

        We understand from our friends at the USA Networks that there
are concrete business reasons for their recent decision to
discontinue the show. Should Forever Knight continue for a fourth
season in syndication, we will be delighted to continue our
coverage.


>
> Sir,
> I was wondering if you were aware of the impending cancellation of one of the
> most evocative and creative shows on TV now, Forever Knight.  The producer,
> USA Networks, has decided not to renew FK for a fourth season, despite stable
> ratings and a devoted fan base.
>
> A grassroots group, based on the Internet, known as the Friends of Forever
> Knight has sprung up to fight against this decision.  If you wish more
> information on this travesty, please e-mail me, or go to the Friends of FK Web
> Page, located at http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
>
> Please, support us in our quest!
> Katya
> -=feel the call of the Knight...=-
> FoFK, unite!
>
> --
>
>
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>                       TEdNet - Teacher Education Network
>             TEL Centre, Faculty of Education, University of Toronto
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:06:14 +0000
From: Robt_Martin <flixman@amanda.dorsai.org>
Reply-To: flixman@amanda.dorsai.org
Organization: Sci-Fi Entertainment
To: Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: Re: Forever Knight

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                      TEdNet - Teacher Education Network
            TEL Centre, Faculty of Education, University of Toronto
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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:10:56 -0500
From:    Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......>
Subject: NATPE Strike Force

They went.  They saw.  They kicked serious butt!

Yaw made being a Forever Knight fan a very cool and proud
thing to be.  Bravo!

  --TSD(Raging against the dying of the Knight.)

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:12:12 -0500
From:    Lisa Clevenger <Sukhmet@a.......>
Subject: Re: SOS: BIG flyer possibilities

As far as I know, Special Services doesn't have a fax, or a phone for that
matter.  All corraspondence is done by mail.  So, I will mail a flyer to them
if someone will fax me a copy of the flyer, Please.   Please?

My fax# is (817)496-9014

(cousin) Lisa C

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:13:35 EST
From:    Deanna Dudney <102575.114@c.......>
Subject: Re: Digests

Does anyone know why a lot of my digests are getting cut short?  Not all of
them, but I'm getting a lot of digests with several messages lost at the end,
and cutting off in the middle of a message.  Is it my mailer, perhaps
(CompuServe)?  Is there a way to request another duplicate digest (or just the
missing messages; they're listed by topic at the top)?

Thanks,
Deanna
Devoted Knightie and Perkulator

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:13:37 EST
From:    Deanna Dudney <102575.114@c.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 25 Jan 1996 to 26 Jan 1996 - Special issue

SciFi Marci wrote:

>4. Favorite character and why?
>Nick and a satisfactory dissertation on the subject would be much too long
>for this list!
>5. Why do you love FK?
>Um, see #4...

Took the words right out of my mouth....

Deanna
Devoted Knightie and Perkulator
"You know, Nick, sometime women *do* take a second look at you."  Natalie

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:13:38 EST
From:    Deanna Dudney <102575.114@c.......>
Subject: Re: Who's sexier?

>Leigh Johntson wrote:
>Can't decide whose sexier, LC or GWD.

Annemarie McKee-Fitzgeralad responded:
>     There is nothing to decide Leigh, its LaCroix! :)
>Cousin Annmarie

Oh, come now!  Didn't you see the scene in "The Hunted" where Nick tries to
whammy the villainness, and says "Come to me..."  That was about the sexiest
look I've *ever* seen...
correction...  definitely THE sexiest look I've ever seen, period.
Unfortunately, we don't get to see Nick being seductive too often, but when he
wants to... look out!

Deanna
Devoted Knightie and Perkulator

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:22:18 -0500
From:    Lisa Clevenger <Sukhmet@a.......>
Subject: Re: Who's sexier? (Another lofty topic)

The whole sexy thing has left out Vachon.. Although I find LC's wickedness
<BG>  sexier,  I have , a few times, stopped to ponder Vachon and thought to
myself, forgive me Uncle, but Vachon sure looks tasty tonight.

(cousin) Lisa C

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:27:54 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw,
         we kicked a little *elbow*! :-)

On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Cassie Carter wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, vicki jean merriman wrote:
> > Vampires are very in.  Do you suppose it was neither fish nor foul?  ie.
                                    I guess you realized this was fowl :)

> failed on USA.  (Of course there's also the BIG issue that, apparently,
> most of us have been watching FK on non-cable syndicate stations . . . is
> that true, or am I just hallucinating?)

Now that is entirely possible.  The syndicated stations have all been
relatively pleased with the results, even though the show is shown at
truly bizzare times.  If most of us watched on syndicated stations, that
could be why USA didn't show up.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:29:45 -0500
From:    "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: SOS effects in my neck of the woods

So I walked into the office today with my FORKNI-L t-shirt on and
three of the guys from maintenance are hanging around the coffee
machine trying to avoid work. One of them says to me "Hey, nice
t-shirt. Isn't that for the vampire cop show that the yingyangs
at TriStar are trying to cancel?" [direct quote btw]

You couldn't have seen me more suprised. These guys are tenured
been-working-for-the-university-longer-than-you've-been-alive
kind of old Finnish guys with an attitude. So I say "Yeah, what
do you know about it?"

And ya know what? They proceeded to tell me all this stuff about
NATPE and the FK Home Page (which I manage) and the SOS-FK Home
Page and TriStar and *ESPECIALLY* the article in _Electronic Media_.
They even knew about the charity drive and the blood drive.

And they called the local service providers for us.

If these old stick-in-the-muds who only watch _Finland Calling_
(a local show all in Finnish) and professional bowling know about
the SOS campaign effort, can you *IMAGINE* the impact you guys are
having elsewhere?

My most sincere congratulations to EVERYONE involved. If my little
teeny neck of the woods is finding out about it, everyone else
should be right about now too. You all are great and I am *SSOOOOO*
happy to know you all. *hug*

Jasmine, Faithful Ravenette
gjwalli@m.......
http://www.hu.mtu.edu/~gjwalli/fktoc.html

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:34:07 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: NATPE REPORT (1/2) - We came, we saw,
         we kicked a little *elbow*! :-)

If I repeat anything Dianne and Catherine already said, forgive me. It's been
a long couple of days.  I'll add my personal report as soon as I catch up on
my mail.

In response to Vicki's response:
>> elevator.  We passed out about 75 flyers and bags each before
>> we got kicked out, in a half an hour.
>
>Why were you kicked out and where were you standing?  Was it because you
>didn't have official NATPE memberships.

Various places around the convention center lobby and yes, because we didn't
have badges *and* were handing stuff out.  "No soliciting in the lobby." I
think Dianne (or was it Catherine?) was right, though, and they were touchy
because of the food-bank people.

>In retrospect that seems obvious, but it _never_ occurred to me when all this
>was discussed before.

It occurred to us, but one-day memberships were $250 a pop, and we just didn't
have that kind of resources....

>you must have bunches of bags left over.  Do the people who donated to Laurie
>get one?

We have some left.  Yes, we only gave out in the LOBBY for about the first
half-hour, but then we were handing them out until dark outside.  I calculate
that roughly 10% of the attendees received a bag and a flyer.   In fact, by
the end of the day, I was getting turned down by people who said things like
"I got one this morning" or "I already have three of those!" <vbg>  For
comparison, Toni, who runs a radio station, said that people with a BOOTH at a
trade show like NATPE consider that they've done well if they give stuff to
20% of the attendees. So, for a group that didn't even have a booth, I think
10% coverage is pretty Durned good!

Not to mention all the people who will pick them up in the hotels, and the
stack we left in the press room.

Anyone on FORKNI-L who wants a NATPE bag and flyer should send a SASE
(manilla) with 2 stamps to:

Diane Echelbarger
NATPE Goodies
000 Xxxxxxxx Xxx
Xxxxxxxxx XX  00000

and I will mail you one.

>>they were selling FK merchandise upstairs,
>> really nice embroidered shirts, both long and short sleeved, and
>> black mugs with the logo, and a bite-sized chunk taken out of
>
>How come we can't get things like that.  I'd love to have a couple of
>those mugs.  Who were they selling the merchandise to, and why, if it
>exists, don't they sell it to fans?????

The PR woman at TriStar (Anybody else remember her name? Sherry something?)
said she ordered all that stuff for NATPE before USA pulled out, when they
were still planning on having Ger there.  What Catherine didn't know is, Toni
and I scoped out the NATPE store Tues night, and there was *nothing* FK
related there! So I'd be willing to bet Tri-Star had their promo people put
them out when they realized we *had* shown up. That, in and of itself, is a
coup, I think! (Did I mention they sold out of mugs? I got the last one!)  We
*did* offer to introduce the nice PR person to a group of people who would
*love* to buy any leftovers, but she changed the subject....  I think we
scared her a little. <g>

>Aha. Je comprends.  You snuck in :)

Yup.  Angela (Stealth) Lai found us a back entrance. <g>

And would the person who forwarded the request from Bjo Trimble please contact
me, or have Bjo contact me? I grabbed her a ton of stuff, and need to arrange
for shipping.....

One last thing:  as soon as I post my NATPE report, I'm going to be setting
this list nomail for a while. I am, frankly, burning out.  I need some time
away from the War (consider it Hazardous Duty leave) to catch up on real-life
concerns like dishes, laundry, housework.... and if she doesn't get some
quality time soon, I suspect Tuppence the Temple Cat will file for divorce.

Dianne has promised to keep me updated on anything vital (like, TriStar
announcing a fourth season).  I expect to be nomail for at least a week, maybe
longer.  Keep going, guys! Just because Battle Fatigue is making me drop out,
don't you quit! (And yes, I *am* having flashbacks to NATPE already... wonder
if I could file for disability based on PTSD? <g>)

Report soon, I promise!

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                    gryphon@e.......    #
#    WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Ask, and it shall be given to you."  Matthew 7:7    #

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:49:41 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: SOS effects in my neck of the woods

On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Gaylin J. Walli wrote:

> If these old stick-in-the-muds who only watch _Finland Calling_
> (a local show all in Finnish) and professional bowling know about
> the SOS campaign effort, can you *IMAGINE* the impact you guys are
> having elsewhere?

Unfortunately, Tri-Star is wedded to Neilsens and doesn't seem to
understand this, that the Neilsens truly don't relate the numbers of the
show.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:55:11 -0500
From:    Carla Pickering <carlap@e.......>
Subject: My very first post here

I have--I guess you'd say 'lurked' here--since a couple of weeks after the
crisis started since my daughter was tired of copying me on all the posts.
I have been an in-principle supporter of FK, an occassional viewer since
<yawn> I work 2 jobs, go to school part time and take care of a full pride
of feline persons, 2 canine persons, some rescued rodents *and* help with
wildlife rehabilitation.  However, since the crisis hit, I have been setting
my alarm and getting up at 1:20 in the a.m. on Sunday mornings to watch FK
on my local Syndie and have reviewed all available tapes of past episodes
and have been talking up the cause etc., etc., etc.

I even went crazy a couple of days ago and signed on to FKfiction & spoiler
(with my schedule, this *is* going crazy, truly).

Point of POST-- I am *so* impressed --- you guys are incredible.  Thank you
for all the hard, organized, intelligent, dedicated work.  Candles and
energy and words of power and poetry from my and all my companions!!
Therefore I am proudly declaring myself today ......

Carla/Crowhawwk at
'Caer Kadau y Gi', Exeter, Rhode Island
Recently Realized Ravenette and
Closet Cousine with Knightly leanings......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:12:36 -0500
From:    "Gaylin J. Walli" <gjwalli@m.......>
Subject: Bourbon, and other vamps list

Alright, I zoned and only sent this FKSPOILR asking for updates.
Then some kind person mentioned it by asking about the vampire
Bourbon (in MBIAV, one of the episodes that hasn't arrived in
my mailbox yet). If you have corrections, comments, or suggestions,
I'd sure like to here them.

I think I've got all the vampires listed now, but some of
the information about them is still under spoiler protection.
I've tried to put those lines in so that those of you in the
know don't flood me with messages about "why didn't you inlcude."
(I put them in roughly alphabetical order by name, BTW)

Please note that Larry Merlin is not included in this list because
we are never told whether or not he's a vampire. Also, I haven't
included Jody or the Dog from "Blind Faith" because they weren't
vampires, they were carouche (the spelling isn't quite known).

Oh yeah, need I remind everybody not to copy the entire list
and then reply to it? Let's save our pay-per-line subscribers
some money, shall we?

Thanks in advance. -- Jasmine, gjwalli@m......., Faithful Ravenette

If we get a fourth season, I promise to dye my hair purple!

                       ***********

              The List of Known FK Vampires

Name              Age*        Master     First Appearance
----              ---         ------     ----------------
Alexandra         300         Lacroix    Fatal Mistake
Alma              ?           ?          For I Have Sinned
SPOILER           SPOILER     SPOILER    SPOILER
Ancient One +     ? (unknown) ?          A More Permanent...
Angel             ? (ashes)   ?          Black Buddha 2
Aristotle         ?           ?          Forward...
Bar Patron (m)    ?           ?          Bad Blood
Bar Patron (f)    ?           ?          Sons of Belial ##
Bourbon           ?           ?          My Boyfriend...
Briana            ? (unknown) ?          A More Permanent...
Constantine       100         Lacroix    Father's Day
Daniel            50          Lacroix    Father Figure
Danny             ?           ?          Unreality TV
Divia             1917        Ancient    A More Permanent...
Elizabeth         18 (ashes)  Nick       I Will Repay
Ellen ++          ?           ?          Hearts of Darkness
Enforcer 1&2      ?           ?          Unreality TV
Erica             ? (ashes)   ?          Last Act
SPOILER           SPOILER     SPOILER    SPOILER
Hunter, Alyce     30          Lacroix    Dark Knight
Inca, The         464 (ashes) Angel      Black Buddha 2
Jack (Ripper)     ? (unknown) Lacroix    Bad Blood
Janette           1000        Lacroix    Dark Knight
Lacroix           1917        Divia      Dark Knight
Lambert, Richard  30 (ashes)  Nick       I Will Repay
Miklos            ?           ?          A Fate Worse Than...
Nick (Knight)     800         Lacroix    Dark Knight
SPOILER           SPOILER     SPOILER    SPOILER
Screed            SPOILER     ?          Black Buddha 2
Serena            150         Nick       Baby, Baby
Sophia            300         unknown**  To Die For
Spark             ? (unknown) ?          A More Permanent...
Thomas            ?           ?          Faithful Followers
Tran              40 (ashes)  Lacroix    Can't Run...
Twist, Feliks     ?           ?          Blood Money
Urs               137         Vachon     Black Buddha 2
Vachon, Javier    464         Angel      Black Buddha 1


Notes:
*   Ages listed are rough guesses on my part. The age is the
    number of mortal (when known) and vampire years combined. If the
    vampire is no longer alive, then they are listed as "ashes."
**  Arguments abound concerning Sophia's master. Some people think
    Lacroix turned her and some think Janette turned her.
+   This vampire did not appear physically on screen but was
    mentioned by various characters.
++  Ellen was also known as Monica and Jaqueline, depending on
    the personality in charge at the time.
##  You know....the one that Nick tried to fool around with at
    the Raven in "Sons of Belial." *grin* What was her name again?
    Paula? Eva? something? Help!

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:22:16 EST
From:    MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN <GNBV32C@p.......>
Subject: Sending packages to Canada

Sorry guys, I should have posted this long ago.  Hopefully it will
still help some people though.

When you fill out the Customs forms for any packages you're sending up
here, don't put any dollar amount where it asks the value of what
you're sending.  Just put "NCV" for "No Commercial Value".  Otherwise,
even though you've marked that it's a gift, the people who receive it
may have to pay duty on the package.  Or they may have to make a
special trip to the Customs office to pick it up.  Especially because
you're sending it to a business office.

The Customs forms are very confusing, they try to be too many things
in too many different contingencies.  Most people don't know that the
dollar value on the form only applies to businesses sending
merchandise.  It has no relevance to ordinary people sending things.

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"!)    Via Internet:  gnbv32c@p....... (preferred
address) or be028@t.......
           *** Help save Forever Knight!  Ask me how. ***
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 11:31:21 -0500
From:    Janis Richmond <jwr@c.......>
Subject: Special Services #

Does anyone know how to get in touch by phone with the people at Special
Services Unlimited in North Riverside, Illinois?  I placed an order with
them for some FK merchandise, and I need to check on the order.  They aren't
listed with information.  By the way, the Raven T-shirt I got from them is
really great looking!

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Janis
jwr@c.......

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Date:    Fri, 26 Jan 1996 10:32:19 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: NATPE REPORT: Diane's Story

I'm going to use Dianne's post as a reminder to myself.  Here goes:

> Somehow, between getting out of all those nice clothes (aaah!) and going out
>to dinner, we managed to waste about four hours that I still can't
>account for.

I can.  You and Cherri were walking the Strip, dropping brochures (I repeat,
they were MUCH too classy-looking to be called flyers) at every hotel you
could, while Debbie and Catherine was contacting our Vegas affiliate (Hi,
Linda!) and Toni and Angela were delivering those gorgeous flowers to the EM
people.  I was falling asleep on the bed writing postcards to the crew.

>But I'm getting ahead of myself.  When writing a story, start at the
>beginning...

She's right, yknow....

I got into Vegas about 2pm Tues.  Plane was delayed because of fog in St
Louis.  I checked into the hotel-- June, you did us proud, we were *literally*
across the parking lot from the convention center!-- and as I was hanging my
'work clothes' up, the first bouquet of flowers was delivered! It was a real
spirit-lifter, and you three (Laurie, Apache, and Lana) were great for
thinking of it!  Then I unpacked some brochures (I will *not* call them
flyers) and bags, and made up three 'goodie packs'. One for the EM people, one
for On Time Promotions (who rushed the bag order for us) and one for Alice,
who was working NATPE as part of her job.  Contacted Linda, who lives in
Vegas, and got instructions on how to find all the hotels.  Three taxi rides
(the second taxi driver was a fan, and promised to call his syndie station
when he got off work) and a trolley later (with packets dropped off *and*
flyers left at the Alexis Park Resort *and* the MGM Grand), I discovered that
Toni had checked in.  We strolled across the parking lot to the convention
center and scoped out the lobby.  The security guards downstairs were very
officious, and turned us away from the main hall, but we *did* find the
freebie bins, and grabbed a couple of Electronic Medias.  Then we went
upstairs, and scoped out the NATPE store.  A life-size cutout of Hercules,
lots of stuff for X-files, Party of Five, etc, etc, but no FK stuff that *I*
saw, at least then.  We wandered around the upstairs lobby a bit, then managed
to sneak by a distracted guard and actually get onto the second-floor floor.
Wandered around, grabbing anything SF-related in sight for Bjo.  Toni did her
stealth routine in the Tri-Star booth, and we both talked to the women at
Paragon.  After that, we had dinner at Treasure Island and by the time that
was finished, the LA contingent had checked in.

>Wed morning
I walked over to the Sands to get a copy of the daily NATPE report (we were
hoping to find out where KK's award presentation would be) and saw the
mid-week NATPE issue of EM.  Picked up a copy for the daily schedule inside
the front cover, and wandered out past the pool turning pages... and had to
*seriously* fight to keep myself from blowing my 'corporate image' by jumping
up and down and shouting *YES!!!! WE DID IT!!! YAhoooo!** when I saw the
article on page 4!  Needless to say, I rushed immediately back to the room,
grinning like a fool the whole way, and shared it with all the others.

>Diane was hitting escape velocity.  :)  But then we all read the article, and
>we were all in orbit.

Somewhere around Jupiter, *I*'d say.  It was really the perfect way to start
the day, and we decided then and there that, since we couldn't take our
bouquets home, anyway, we'd replace the florist cards with our generic FoFK
cards and drop them off at the EM people's hotel....

>So we loaded up the car and all our bags, and headed out.
> Unfortunately, yes, we did get kicked out in very short order.

Myself, I was working the far left side of the lobby, where mostly foreign
folks seemed to be going.  Think I may have been a little *too* eager, and got
too close to the convention doors.  I wasn't exactly kicked out, just told I
couldn't hand anything out in the lobby.  They were really very nice about it,
if very stuffed-shirt.  Then I went in search of another FoFK, and found
Dianne at the top of the escalator.  A minute after I arrived, a woman coming
up the escalator spotted our badges, and gushed about the show for a minute.
(This happened *all day* and really helped us keep going!) Then she asked us
to stop by her booth(!) because her friend in there would want to meet us.  We
explained about not having memberships, so she said she'd send her out, and
would we be here?  We said yes, and a minute later a security guard told
Dianne *she* couldn't hand stuff out, either.  He did say we could wait there
for the woman (who never came back) and give business cards to people who
asked.  So we waited.... but she never came back.

Finally gave up and went to lunch, after checking out the locations of the
rest of our team.  Gave brochures and bags to our waitresses, who promised to
watch the show on USA Tuesday, and dropped a stack of brochures in the
Treasure Island lobby.  Then met our landlady on the way back, walking down
the Strip, and explained to her why someone who didn't like vampires *or* cop
shows *would* like FK, and *she* promised to watch it! <g>  Dropped brochures
at the Sands, and back into action!

Dianne, for those of you that don't know, is a very fair, very pale redhead--
almost strawberry blond-- and she spent HOURS standing in the bright Vegas sun
to hand out bags.  When Cherri and I got back from lunch, we took over her
spot and sent her under cover to keep from getting sunburned worse than she
already was.

Shortly after that, one of the guys I handed a flyer to doubled back, and
asked me why USA was cancelling. About half-way through my answer, I realized
his card said "PRESS" and "Spin the Bottle"-- anybody heard of these guys?
Anyway, I explained about the split showing, and how that meant USA was
getting the equivalent of second-run ratings, and he got all indignant and
said (not an exact quote) "USA shows nothing but re-runs. I don't understand
why they wouldn't support a great first-run show like FK."  Then he asked me
what cons we'd gotten our demographics from! I said, "Several cons, and a
survery on the Internet". We chatted another minute or so, and *then*, when I
asked him to ask Tri-Star for a fourth season, he said, "I'm seeing Kay this
afternoon, I'll ask her!" and I nearly lost it!  Of course, I don't *know*,
but I entertain this fantasy that Ms. Koplovitz was in the middle of a press
conference/interview on her award, and this reporter jumps up and asks her
"Why is USA cancelling an excellent show like Forever Knight?  Do you know the
fans are here in support of the show?"  Like I said, my own personal
fantasy...

And several times, people would rush by us, shaking their heads, *then* spot
that classy-looking brochure you all worked so hard to get ready for us, and
double back and take one! That, and the number of people who *recognized* and
*liked* the show, really blew us all away. Never, ever again will *any* of us
even *consider* that no-one out there knows about the show!

*Then* Paul DaCruz from EM wandered by, just as Dianne and Catherine got back
from lunch. He said all sorts of nice things about us, and explained how he'd
pitched the article, and how he thought we (meaning, I think, FoFK and EM)
were a great 'partnership' or 'team' or 'combo' or some sort of
thing-that-fits-nicely-together type phrase.  Wanted a picture of us to take
back to 'show around the office', but his camera wasn't working. We offered to
mail him some, and swapped business cards.  *That* impressed him, I think,
because he said "Wow! You guys did business cards for this, too?"  We just
smiled, and pointed out that it was amazing what you can do with a laser
printer and a PC these days, wasn't it? <g>

Shortly after this, it started to get dark, and a few 'ladies of the evening'
started wandering by (black lace body stockings, *way* too much makeup, and
looking *nothing* like the ones from FWTD) so we decided it was time to stop
standing on streetcorners smiling at strange men. <vbg>

We went back inside and bought the last two FK mugs.  I asked the guy running
the booth if he had any *more* FK stuff, and he rooted out some T-shirts
(there weren't any on the racks).  They're identical to the ones Parriott gave
you folks lucky enough to fight the first renewal campaign, and very, VERY
cool.

Then we got Angela to show us her secret way onto the convention center floor,
and joined Toni & Catherine in the Tri-Star booth. I think the poor PR flack
was a little overwhelmed by us all.  I'll let Toni give you the details of
what she said, since she was there for the whole time, and I only got in on
the last few minutes.

By then, everybody was leaving, so we gathered ourselves up and went back to
our hotel rooms to turn back into our Real Selves.

I pretty much collapsed, while the other six ran various errands (see the top
of my post), but I managed to fill out postcards for 12 crewmembers, plus Lisa
Ryder.  When the rest got back, we finished filling out the postcards (we were
all pretty much on the verge of collapse by that time) and then I got
*tricked* into waking up (you sneak, Toni! <g>) and going to look at The Royal
White Tigers Of Sigfried And Roy at the Mirage.  Got to see the volcano
explode, too. Bonnie, we *did* win on a slot with your quarters-- got $2.50
back on a $.75 stake-- but then got greedy and lost it again. Oh, well...

Dinner at the California Pizza Palace (I think...) and then Toni and I had to
dash for the airport.

All in all, I had a great time, and feel like we really accomplished
something.  However, I'm feeling rather burned out, so I'm going no-mail for a
while.  I'm sure someone will step in to carry on the fight for us.

BTW-- at the next con you're at, look out for seven madwomen in black,
embroidered FK shirts and khaki, black-billed baseball caps with "The Few, The
Proud, The FK NAPTE Strike Force" embroidered on them.  Toni had them made up
for us (we wore them to dinner!) and we all promised to wear them at the next
cons we go to.

Keep fighting, guys!

Diane E
# D Echelbarger                    gryphon@e.......    #
#    WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Ask, and it shall be given to you."  Matthew 7:7    #

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