FORKNI-L
Digest - 25 Jan 1996
25 Jan 1996
There are 11 messages totalling 297 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Nielsens at NAPTE
2. The Important Stuff
3. The Name Game (3)
4. GOODIES: Report #2
5. beta readers
6. TriStar backed in a corner (2)
7. To K Tobin; blooper reel
8. T-shirts
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 14:23:14 -0500
From: A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: Nielsens at NAPTE
The Nielsen ratings system is not accurate? *GASP* NO! REALLY! Well duh.
ALthough I detest Rupert Murdoch who owns FOX, and I seriously question the
motive for blasting the Nielsesn I must say. ( takes a big breath) I agree
with Chase Casey. There I said it.
He has simple stated what a lot of people in the business have suspected for
a long time. The Nielsens even blew their reputation in a Newsweek article
about the how many people use the internet. Turns out they cooked the numbers
hence the "no comment" when asked about the accuracy of the article.
Incidently if any of you all out there have AOL you can read about Casey's
blasting of Nielsen at NAPTE in the entertainment section under Entertainment
wire. It's in the Television section. Hey maybe Reuter's ( the news service)
will have something about SOSFK at NAPTE.
At any rate the Nielsen rating sytem is fast becoming outmoded and having a
monopoly in the industry breeds corruption ( here's a little something to
insure you give me good numbers) and inaccuracy.
AMc " I must stay out of touch more often"
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 14:57:41 -0500
From: "Mark L. Elliott" <01mlelliott@b.......>
Subject: Re: The Important Stuff
Don't forget about Tracy and Urs!!!!
Ravenously yours,
The Magister
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:20:37 U
From: Celeste Hotaling-Lyons <celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......>
Subject: The Name Game
Subject: Time:3:16 PM
OFFICE MEMO The Name Game Date:1/25/96
Tippi Blevins itemized:
>#1 Ok, I'm new, so I don't understand exactly.... But does one just choose
>sides, or is one, shall we say, *brought across* by other other members? ;)
You watch the show, you like a particular character better than the others
(not saying you don't also like the others, but you like this particular one
best), you have then decided which faction you belong to. One's friends may
try to "bring you across" by influencing you to be favorably disposed towards
a certain character, but it's all low-key. No one forces anyone to choose.
IT IS FOR FUN!!!
Occasionally, also in jest, one is bequeathed a title. For instance:
My mailer was acting up, putting *really, really* annoying lines (//)at the
end of each sentence. Another list member who'd written a story in which
vampire mosquitos were killed by getting staked with spearmint-flavored
toothpicks (the kind you find in restaurants by the cashier), dubbed me
"Keeper of the Spearmint-flavored Toothpicks" (or something like that) in
honor of the little lines. I was the Keeper until I got the mailer
straightened out. I was happy to relinquish that title, the lines were
driving me crazy!
On the other hand, I came up with "Cousine"--the feminine of `cousin' in
French. I figured that since women Janette-appreciaters were called
"Ravenettes" as opposed to male "Ravens", and Nick-fanciers are "Knights" and
"Knighties", we cousins needed a feminine version, too. So, you can give
yourself a definitive title, and if it fits, is humourous & you like it enough
to live with it, it's cool. (So far, I seem to be the lone Cousine, but
wouldn't mind at all if someone else called herself one, too.)
Tippi: if you like all the characters and don't wanna pick a side, you are a
Die-Hard. Or not. Whatever you like.
Cousine Celeste
celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:31:48 -0500
From: Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: Re: GOODIES: Report #2
Allison asked what a gaffer does...the poor fellow tapes down wires to the
floor and that sort of thing, so people doin't trip and wires don't get yanked
out of sockets unexpectedly...at least, that's what our stage crew gaffer does
at school...
Katya
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:40:11 -0500
From: Hilary Doda <Hilary_Doda@g.......>
Subject: beta readers
Hi....I'm looking for one or two people who are interested in beta-reading the
story I'm currently working on...it's pretty short, only about four or five
pages. E-mail me if you'r interested!
Thanks!
Katya
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:34:42 CST
From: Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: Re: TriStar backed in a corner
In: "Re: TriStar backed in a corner", mailed on Thu, 25 Jan 96 09:57:19 CST ,
vicki jean merriman wrote:
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Deanna Dudney wrote:
>
> > attention we're getting (combined with everything else), TriStar *is* backed
> > into a corner. Can you imagine the bad publicity they might get if they
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> intersting to see who wins. They figure they will have also as many
> eyeballs watching the rerun stripped shows as would watch new eps.
>
> |----
> Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......
>
Don Durham Commented:
I think that this is where our communication with the local syndies comes into
play. If C-TS knows that they really have a burgeoning market, then it is
worth their while to make as many EP's as they can get. If we badger our
locals to ask for more (new) EP's then that may be what we get.
I mean I love the show, but I am not going to be able to watch LNMTA 20 times.
How many ST fans still watch every ST that comes on -- I have finally gotten
tired of them (after 30-40 times per EP).
Now I lay me down to bed, |Don Durham
Darkness can't engulf my head, |Don.durham@d.......
I can see by infrared, |000-000-0000 voice
God I love the night! LL after Marvin,tPA |000-000-0000 beep
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:52:04 -0800
From: Wendy Marie Christensen <wendy@i.......>
Subject: Re: The Name Game
> to live with it, it's cool. (So far, I seem to be the lone Cousine, but
> wouldn't mind at all if someone else called herself one, too.)
Well I like it (Cousine) and shal now be one.
Love, \|/
Cousine Wendy Marie |o o|
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wendy@i.......
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 15:53:32 -0500
From: jennifer matute <jmatute@u.......>
Subject: Re: The Name Game
i'll join ya!!!!
cousine jeni....(how's that?)
On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Celeste Hotaling-Lyons wrote:
> Subject: Time:3:16 PM
> OFFICE MEMO The Name Game Date:1/25/96
>
> Tippi Blevins itemized:
> >#1 Ok, I'm new, so I don't understand exactly.... But does one just choose
> >sides, or is one, shall we say, *brought across* by other other members? ;)
>
> You watch the show, you like a particular character better than the others
> (not saying you don't also like the others, but you like this particular one
> best), you have then decided which faction you belong to. One's friends may
> try to "bring you across" by influencing you to be favorably disposed towards
> a certain character, but it's all low-key. No one forces anyone to choose.
> IT IS FOR FUN!!!
>
> Occasionally, also in jest, one is bequeathed a title. For instance:
>
> My mailer was acting up, putting *really, really* annoying lines (//)at the
> end of each sentence. Another list member who'd written a story in which
> vampire mosquitos were killed by getting staked with spearmint-flavored
> toothpicks (the kind you find in restaurants by the cashier), dubbed me
> "Keeper of the Spearmint-flavored Toothpicks" (or something like that) in
> honor of the little lines. I was the Keeper until I got the mailer
> straightened out. I was happy to relinquish that title, the lines were
> driving me crazy!
>
> On the other hand, I came up with "Cousine"--the feminine of `cousin' in
> French. I figured that since women Janette-appreciaters were called
> "Ravenettes" as opposed to male "Ravens", and Nick-fanciers are "Knights" and
> "Knighties", we cousins needed a feminine version, too. So, you can give
> yourself a definitive title, and if it fits, is humourous & you like it enough
> to live with it, it's cool. (So far, I seem to be the lone Cousine, but
> wouldn't mind at all if someone else called herself one, too.)
>
> Tippi: if you like all the characters and don't wanna pick a side, you are a
> Die-Hard. Or not. Whatever you like.
>
> Cousine Celeste
> celeste_hotaling-lyons@i.......
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:57:15 -0800
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: TriStar backed in a corner
Vicki wrote:
>Clearly the syndicators want eye-balls for their programs but Tri-star
>doesn't care about new eps if they have enough to strip. It will be
>intersting to see who wins. They figure they will have also as many
>eyeballs watching the rerun stripped shows as would watch new eps.
The way shows are sold in syndication, though, is BY THE EPISODE. So,
the more episodes you have, the more money. (E.g. $5000 x 70 eps x 3
showings vs. $5000 x 92 eps x 3 showings)
Thing is though, it's very expensive to produce a show, even in Canada.
And it's hard to recoup when the show is typically shown in late night,
so TriStar can't charge very much for their advertising or to sell it
to syndies.
The analogy with Alien Nation could be apt. FOX stopped making it,
despite decent ratings and syndie protests, because it was so
expensive.
Laurie
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:01:00 EST
From: Deanna Dudney <102575.114@c.......>
Subject: Re: To K Tobin; blooper reel
>For that copy of the FK blooper reel could you email me your snail mail
>address so i can send you that check for $5?
What???!!! I missed this! I want one, too!!! Karen, please e-mail me with
the info.
Thanks, Deanna
102575.114@c.......
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:00:57 EST
From: Deanna Dudney <102575.114@c.......>
Subject: Re: T-shirts
>Lillian,
>I hear you have cool t-shirts to sell. I would like to buy one. Please
>let me know
Me, too, please! E-mail Deanna at 102575.114@c.......
Thanks!
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