FORKNI-L
Digest - 8 Jan 1996
Mon, 8 Jan 1996
There are 20 messages totalling 597 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. Finding out about Tristar (2)
2. Superstation addresses
3. NB Alert!!
4. FK on Sci-Fi Channel question
5. Ben Bass and Graves' disease (2)
6. NATPE ad - reimbursement
7. Old Stations (2)
8. Response from Proctor & Gamble
9. URGENT: Attack Syndies!
10. Webgoddess or WIC
11. If we pull this off... (2)
12. Buried in NJ
13. Finding out about TriStar
14. Words to TriStar
15. Advertisers
16. Birthdays
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:16:23 -0800
From: Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Re: Finding out about Tristar
Lisa McDavid wrote:
>
> Can someone in Los Angeles for whom it would be a local call, please
> see if they can find the number for TriStar? We can then spread
> it all over the universe. :)
Well, I'm not in LA, but...TriStar's phone # is310-202-1234
Karen (ktobin@t.......)
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:31:25 EST
From: Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Superstation addresses
Hi, all,
I've cleverly lost the original post (my brain's snowed in!) but
someone was looking for addresses for WGN, WPIX and WWOR. Here they
are!
WGN-TV
Tribune Broadcasting Co.
2501 Bradley Pl.
Chicago, IL 60618 USA
Telephone: (312)528-2311
Fax: (312)528-6857
OWNER'S ADDRESS:
435 N. Michigan Ave.
Chicago, IL 60611
Peter Walker, Gen. Mgr.
***
WPIX-TV
Tribune Broadcasting Co.
220 E. 42nd St.
New York, NY 10017 USA
Telephone: (212)949-1100
Fax: (212)986-1032
Paul Bissonette, V.P./Station Mgr.
Michael Eigner, Exec. V.P./Gen. Mgr
***
WWOR-TV
Pinelands, Inc.
9 Broadcast Plaza
Secaucus, NJ 07904 USA
Telephone: (201)348-0009
Fax: (201)330-2488
OWNER'S ADDRESS:
445 Park Ave., 6th Fl.
New York, NY 10022
Telephone: (212)759-7500
Michael B. Alexander, Pres./Gen. Mgr.
Karen Corbin, Program Dir.
Karen, Knightie/Heartbreaker/FFFROG ktobin@t......., KarenT1228@a.......)
Reference Librarian of the Save Forever Knight Campaign
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To help, email me
and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:50:29 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Finding out about Tristar
On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Lisa McDavid wrote:
> Would it be any good if we all called our stations and asked them to
> be sure to ask TriStar at NATPE to please ask TriStar for FK?
Not just good, but critical!! If the syndicators arrive at
NATPE *asking* for Forever Knight... who knows what could happen!!
Call your local syndicated stations that carry FK, ask for the
programming executive, and express your support. Then be sure to write a
nice followup letter to that person... and have the immediate universe
write him or her too.
If you live in an area that only had FK via USA, call your local syndie
programming executives and tell your tale of woe. Ask them to *begin* to
carry FK. Ask them to go to NATPE and *ask* for FK. And then, same
deal, *nice* followup letters.
Cheers,
Laura
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:37:15 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: NB Alert!!
On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, Dark Knight wrote:
> For anyone out there who gets the station BRAVO, "The Outside Chance Of
> Maxmillian Glick" is being shown at 8 am EST on Wednesday the 10th.
>
More info, please: how much Nigel is there in this movie? (A
virtual brick will be flung at anyone who says, "all of him.")
Apache
Perkulator
Vaquera
Stringin' along til Saturday...
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:06:15 -0600
From: michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......>
Subject: FK on Sci-Fi Channel question
I found out yesterday that a local friend now gets the Sci-Fi Channel.
Isn't FK being shown there or is that merely a wish on my part? Please
forgive me if we've been over this a bazillion times; since I can't get that
particular channel I didn't pay attention to the messages.
michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:14:25 -0600
From: michael wayne jackson <mjay@n.......>
Subject: Ben Bass and Graves' disease
A friend mentioned that Mr. Bass' blinking _could_ be related to Graves'
disease. I quote from the online Britannica (http://www.eb.com:180/):
"In Graves' disease the excessive secretion of thyroid hormone is usually
accompanied by diffuse primary overgrowth of the thyroid gland (which
results in goitre) and by exophthalmos (protrusion of the eyeballs), with
eyelid retraction and other eye signs."
According to her, Marty Feldman had Graves' disease. Does anyone know if
the connection to Mr. Bass is merely my friend's overactive imagination or not?
michael wayne jackson -- mjay@n.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:18:35 -0800
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: NATPE ad - reimbursement
Hi, Deb.
Once we've sent in the ad, and been told it's okay, and once I've
actually PAID for it, THEN I will post an address to the list where all
those who have so very generously offered to help reimburse the cost
can send their contributions.
Just feel uncomfortable collecting money before I've actually expended
it. (To say nothing of superstitious! :-))
But thanks for caring! You're all great!
Laurie CF
ye old SOS Campaign co-coordinator
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:08:41 -0500
From: "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Old Stations
Brief explanation--
Many stations are part of the TRIBUNE syndicate, which signed up for third
season . . . then withdrew from FK when USA picked up the series because
it's their policy not to show a series on Tribune that's also available on
cable.
WPIX is one of those stations. When I realized that I haven't watched WPIX
for a year (since they took off FK), I dropped them a line telling them so
and telling them WHY. I also told them that USA has pulled out and Tribune
might be interested in picking up FK to interest the lost lambs like me.
Do YOU have a station that used to show FK? Write to them, tell them.
Also, does someone have the names of TriStars syndicated sales people? And
should we call our stations and ask them to call TriStar?
Also, regarding resolutions--since many people have asked, when we get a
fourth season and I cut my hair, I'll get the event videotaped. I haven't
cut my hair (other than the occasional trim) for 21 years, since I was
thirteen. Which means, oddly enough, that I have some hairs older than a
few people on this list.
Regards
susang@v....... -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Get all your info for Saving Forever Knight from:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:28:49 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Response from Proctor & Gamble
Hello all! I just want to explain a little something to make this a
little brighter(?)
On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Diane Echelbarger wrote:
> Well, my *first* reaction was, but that's a VOICE line, you idiot! If Marg is
> hearing-impaired, she needs a TDD line!
The voice line is fine because I can use the Arizona Relay to call. For
those who don't know about the relay service, it makes it like a 3-way
conversation sortof. I type on my TDD to a relay operator (now called a
communication assistant - CA) and s/he calls to the place that I want to
call. The person I want to speak to picks up the phone and talks to the
CA. The CA then types what that person is saying to me. See? No problem
However, it would be nice if more companies installed a TDD phone line so
that we don't have to go through the relay. I believe all states in the
US now have some type of relay service because of the passing of the ADA.
> Then I thought... shouldn't we all be calling these toll free numbers, in
> *addition* to writing?
I think we should maybe start calling them with *brief* messages so not
to tie up their phone lines. The comsumer relations person can ask more
questions if needed.
If you know someone who is deaf or hearing-impaired (and even if you
don't) please go ahead and thank them for sponsoring the closed
captioning. Because Season 1 and 2 were not shown with captioning and
Season 3 is fully captioned, they need to realize that they are reaching
to a new audience - the deaf and hearing -impaired viewers.
Thanks for the concern about the phone line.
Marg Rothschild
knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
***** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight*****
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Or write to: margr@i.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:42:34 +0300
From: Kristina Mairi Buhrman <kmb19@c.......>
Subject: URGENT: Attack Syndies!
No, not literally.... <g>
NATPE is the next important step. I've been encouraging the people off-list who
contacted me to write their local stations that have syndicated programming
to flood every one of them with letters urging them to consider Forever Knight,
especially if they don't already show it.
Now, for superstations. As you're all tired of hearing, I think we should
tell them
to pick up Forever Knight at NATPE. Thanks to Karen Tobin <thank you thank you
thank you> the addresses for WGN (I'm not sure where that's available, but a lot
of people on the HL list get their shows that way), WWOR and WPIX, which
are both
superstations out of NYC. At least in my area, and to my knowledge, the last two
don't show Forever Knight. I suggest we hit them with a lot of letters
(please guys,
I don't wanna be the *only* one dropping letters on 'em) saying that they should
consider FK. WWOR shows Highlander currently (Sat night/Sun morning 12) and WPIX
shows Hercules and Xena (Sat prime time. Imagine a superstation showing FK
in *prime
time* I wish I wish Oh I do believe in miracles... <g>) I don't know if WGN
shows FK, but
I know it shows Highlander.
I'm gonna mention to WWOR and WPIX (as I don't get WGN in this neck of the
woods, and
I'm sure they'd know that from my address) that I enjoy their syndicated
programing
(and I do, somewhat) and suggest in the most glowing terms that they pick up
FK.
I hope a bunch of you (those with access to superstations) do the same.
Could anyone who does this also drop me a line e-mailingly so that I know
what kind of impact we are
getting here?
Thanks <off soapbox, or whatever>.
-Kristina kmb19@c.......
Perkulator (couldn't ya tell <g>)
Last post for today, promise.
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:47:55 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Ben Bass and Graves' disease
On Mon, 8 Jan 1996, michael wayne jackson wrote:
> "In Graves' disease the excessive secretion of thyroid hormone is usually
> accompanied by diffuse primary overgrowth of the thyroid gland (which
> results in goitre) and by exophthalmos (protrusion of the eyeballs), with
> eyelid retraction and other eye signs."
Oh good grief. Hmmm. Ben Bass says, in an interview with Laura
Waskey and Leslie Remencus which is printed in the newsletter of the Ben
Bass Fan Club (rah rah!), that one possible reading of his character is
that a person who has lived as long as Vachon has might not have much left
to say.
Given that take on the character, the blinking is <genius! no..>
acting!
He also says that his father is a doctor (an epidemiologist, to be
exact -- interesting speciality for a vampire's parent!), so if there is
any basis for this speculation, we can at least feel assured that it
would have been noticed and treated.
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:48:08 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Webgoddess or WIC
I am sorry but I can't find my list of WIC and I need some help. I found
the e-mail addresses to the Arizona Republic newspaper. I feel we should
let them know about the SOSFK web page, etc. but I am not sure how to do
this.
Their e-mail addresses are:
computing@r.......
America Online: Phxgazette
Internet: Phxgazette@a.......
They also have a fax: 602-271-8274
In addition, there is the Republic Columnist, Naaman Nickel, at :
nnickell@r.......
and
Paula Ancona, Scripps-Howard News Service, column titled "Working
Smarter" at:
CompuServe: 73537,3367 or
Internet: 73537.3367@c.......
Can someone help me with this please?
Thank you
Marg Rothschild
knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
***** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight*****
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Or write to: margr@i.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:42:10 -0600
From: "Susanne M. Clark" <sclark@u.......>
Subject: Re: If we pull this off...
>At 04:54 PM 1/4/96 -0600, you wrote:
> Susanne Clark!
>
> <tsk tsk> Are you sure you're not a Cousin? Sounds real Cousinly to me!
>
Cherri, Cherri, Cherri. Don't get carried away now. My state of glee at
the prospect of some Longhorns having to sing the Aggie Fight Song should in
no way be construed as a manifestation of cousinly tendencies. That being
said, suppose a hypothetical Knightie WAS having positively cousinly urges
as of late, followed by the arrival of some finely crafted angst. Would she
be in a midst of an identity crisis, perchance? Or would it be the stress
of her favorite show being in cancellation triage? Just checking. ;)
Susanne Clark
sclark@u.......
Forever Knightie
"Everything zen? I don't think so." "Zen" by Bush
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 12:55:30 -0800
From: Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: Old Stations
Oh Susan, I hate thought of you cutting her hair.
I love long hair. Mine used to be to my waist. I cut it and now agter many
years, I'm in the process of growing it back.
Cousin Cherri
"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......> FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
Save FOREVER KNIGHT!!Check
out:http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:05:41 -0500
From: Ronni Katz <Questinc@a.......>
Subject: Buried in NJ
Hi all!
Well, I'm buried under 3 feet of snow here and hoping I will be dug out in
time for Arisia!
I know there are other List people who are from NJ and NY - I hope you guys
are okay!
Just posting to let everyone know I'm still alive <vbg>
Before the snow hit I passed out SOS flyers to a group of 60+ people at a
LARP I was at Saturday. There were a lot of FK fans there who didn't know
the show was in danger of cancellation and who said they would use the
address sheet I passed out to Email and write letters to save the show. Hope
they do - we need all the help we can get!
Am sending out SOS flyers to everyone in my LARP group - there are many FK
fans there not on the Internet who need to know what is going on. Hope they
join the cause!
L8ter!
Ron the Enforcer
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:10:49 -0800
From: Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Re: If we pull this off...
Hi Susanne,
>Cherri, Cherri, Cherri. Don't get carried away now.
ROTFL
>My state of glee at
>the prospect of some Longhorns having to sing the Aggie Fight Song should in
>no way be construed as a manifestation of cousinly tendencies.
NO! Oh, I get it. Just Longhorns glee!
That being
>said, suppose a hypothetical Knightie WAS having positively cousinly urges
>as of late, followed by the arrival of some finely crafted angst. Would she
>be in a midst of an identity crisis, perchance?
That's a good answer.
Or would it be the stress
>of her favorite show being in cancellation triage? Just checking. ;)
That's a better one.
Cousin Cherri <VVV BIG EG>
"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......> FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
Save FOREVER KNIGHT!!Check
out:http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 13:15:06 -0800
From: LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: Finding out about TriStar
Cousin Lisa asked:
Can someone in Los Angeles for whom it would be a local call, please
see if they can find the number for TriStar? We can then spread
it all over the universe. :)
Imo, if we do that, we should focus on their syndie sales staff.
>Would it be any good if we all called our stations and asked them to
>be sure to ask TriStar at NATPE to please ask TriStar for FK?
Call them or write them, send them flowers, trinkets, absolutely! (Can
anyone think of anything small, inexpensive, but attention-getting (IN
A NICE WAY) to send them?)
That's the focal point, imo, of this campaign: if we can get the local
syndies to ASK about FK (because of letters we've sent to them,
comments they've received from sponsors (because of letters we've sent
to THEM <g>), we may have a shot at this thing. Hence the Electronic
Media ad: EM's circulation is primarily directed at syndicated
stations, and the tone we are taking in that ad (which will be posted
once it's been completed (the snow cost us a day) It's already been
vetted by our *team of twenty <g>* (thanks again, guys!).
Laurie CF
ye old SOS Campaign co-coordinator
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:49:50 -0500
From: Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Words to TriStar
Felicia Bollin wrote:
>My source says we "*can make a difference right now* by contacting
>***TriStar's syndicated sales people*** as well as Feltheimer and
>local syndicated stations."...But we must stress that we want the
>show to **continue** into and past the fourth season!!!!! This is *crucial*!
Here's what I'm planning to fax to Feltheimer (and these others) -- as new
last paragraphs to my standard letter -- as soon as I get the fax numbers
(no way can I get to the PO this week!). Any comments/editorial suggestions?
<many paragraphs precede this>
I most sincerely hope that you plan to continue producing this program for
at least another season: as I speak online and in person to a wide variety
of people (both colleagues and others) about it, I discover that many more
than I might have thought know it, enjoy it, and feel distressed at the
news that it may be soon be available only as... well, as "flashbacks".
(This metaphor for reruns is most often offered, with amusement, by
colleagues in the psychological field.)
I am writing, therefore, to most specifically request that you produce
Forever Knight for a fourth season, and sell it at the NATPE convention
later this month to the syndicated stations that I know are eager to keep
it in their lineups.
Cordially,
Rae M
rmontor@v.......
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 16:48:37 -0500
From: Donna <hozdmb@r.......>
Subject: Advertisers
I was just sitting here watching "Father's Day" on tape after clearing the
snow off my snowbound car and thought about what a great deal advertisers
get when they support a show that people like enough to tape and pass the
tapes around. There is no way to know how many times their one commercial
gets seen or even the geography it covers. I know some people watch and cut
out the commercials but I bet more people don't and have the commercials
from both of the first two years too.
Donna Burns hozdmb@r.......
Diehard, FK, Highlander, ST, B5, X-Files, L&C, Sime/Gen, Pros
Wanting a Knight for as long as possible, and anything is possible.
I'm not a Diehard for nothing. DON'T LET TPTB CANCEL OUR KNIGHT.
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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:49:58 -0600
From: "Sharon S. Scott" <SCOTTS@b.......>
Subject: Birthdays
Another idea for the campaign: if you have a birthday coming up soon, how
about sending TPTB birthday cards, with the note:
You can help make my birthday truly *HAPPY* by renewing Forever Knight!
It's silly, I know, but I got tired of writing business-like letters to
Hormel and Mazda. :-)
Scottie
scotts@b....... or sss44@a.......
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