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Digest - 5 Jan 1996 to 6 Jan 1996 - Special issue

Sat, 6 Jan 1996

There are 31 messages totalling 1023 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. YKYBWTMFKW
  2. Spam, Ribena, and the Sacred Bubblebath of Life (2)
  3. SOS:  Whazzup? (or:  "I'm Confused!")
  4. Y100 (Philly Radio)
  5. NB interview on the web
  6. Telemuchen & Capital Cities (2)
  7. German and 50% coverage
  8. FK in syndication (fwd)
  9. Change in your subscription options for the FORKNI-L list (fwd) (2)
 10. Correction about vamp. duck.
 11. Chocolate, fangs, and other stuff
 12. WHEN we get a 4th season resolution
 13. Giving up smoking  and  coffee
 14. Telemuchen & Capital Cities SILLINESS ALERT! <g> (2)
 15. Happyness and a thought
 16. Spam, etc.
 17. Police Academy
 18. Newsgroups (2)
 19. Fwd: request for sword pin
 20. Please wait
 21. Advetisers
 22. Tracy/  Police Academy
 23. FK Resolutions
 24. Friday's Letter Count
 25. JK alert!
 26. SILLINESS ALERT! <g>

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:30:22 -0700
From:    Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: YKYBWTMFKW

... you're channel surfing and see a woman chained to a wall.  A fresh cut
is on her neck, and a man wearing a purple outfit before her is licking his
finger deliciously.  Vampires in outer space!!!  Not quite.  The Adventures
of Captain Zoom in Outer Space.

Falcon Storm
satori@m.......
                                LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 23:20:09 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Spam, Ribena, and the Sacred Bubblebath of Life

On Jan 05, 1996 21:35:46, 'Lillian Feden <feden@m.......>' wrote:

>You know, I have never even seen Spam.  I've seen the cans, but I can't
>recall EVER having seen the actual item.  Is it that bad?

Well, it's kind of like Ribena... you only ingest it because you HAVE to...


Having emerged from the Sacred Bubblebath of Life, and having donned the
Kittycat Nightgown of Exalted Office, your Friendly Neighborhood Webgoddess
has had a Revelation regarding the nature of Life, The Universe and
Everything:

They... have blooper reels.

We... have quote lists.

And to bring a small spark of relevance into this otherwise completely
frivolous and meaningless post:

The web page is now averaging one hit every four minutes and twenty-six
seconds.

--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R. --The Illustrated Cousin -- Mercenary -- SFK WebGoddess
Save Forever Knight! --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

*** WAR #6: THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONAL ***

"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade." -- Jaye the Red

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:38:13 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: SOS:  Whazzup? (or:  "I'm Confused!")

>The Red Cross maintains "Pint-a-Week" clubs (at least in Madison, WI).  The

I contacted the Red Cross in Madison about this, and about blood drives,
today.  Is anyone organizing/coordinating ALL the blood drives, as opposed to
individual blood drives?

My local Red Cross says they'd be happy to keep track of individual donors who
want to donate for "Friends of Forever Knight"; this might be a possibility
for those of us who don't have a high 'fan concentration'.  I got generic
setting-up-a- blood-drive info and One-A-Week Club info. Private e-mail me if
you're interested in it.

SOUTHERN WISCONSIN/NORTHERN ILLINOIS fans!  Contact me about the possibility
of arranging a 'FK Donor Day/Week' with the Red Cross.  Note: those of you in
Chicago/Milwaukee would have to travel for this; these areas are NOT serviced
by the Red Cross bloodbank system.

Diane E
NATPE-FK Campaign Coordinator
# D Echelbarger                    gryphon@e.......    #
#    WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Ask, and it shall be given to you."  Matthew 7:7    #

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:42:14 CST
From:    L'Phantom <jrarmstr@p.......>
Subject: Re: Spam, Ribena, and the Sacred Bubblebath of Life

One hit every 4:26, huh?

You, dear Cousin, have *way* too much free time! :-)

(Actuallt, the sad thing is that you probably don't, but took the time to
work it out anyway.)

Get some sleep, Webgoddess, you've earned it.


Inside your mind, as always,
L'Phantom
--Cousin-in-training

Help Save Forever Knight!  Ask me how!  jrarmstr@b.......

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 23:51:03 -0500
From:    Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Y100 (Philly Radio)

As I previously mentioned, I e-mailed a copy of the press release to Y100
which is a radio staion in the Philadelphia area.  Yesterday they
responded that they would add the link in a few days.  Well, it's there
today.  If you want to see it's at:
http://www.y100.com and select Events and Links.
They actually linked to my page, but my page links to Jamie's page and
has the press release.

Philly people (or any people) can send them a thanks at Y100@a.......

--
Siona@n.......

"Murphy was an optimist!"
Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:50:52 -0800
From:    Ted Atkinson <llacroix@i.......>
Subject: NB interview on the web

I was surfing again and found this:

http://www.cognito.com/0003/articles/00016919/16919552.htm

It's an interview with Uncle done last spring.

Good stuff!

Ted Atkinson      Cousin
llacroix@i.......

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:12:48 -0500
From:    "Elisa L. Carty" <fuja@p.......>
Subject: Telemuchen & Capital Cities

Karen <ktobin@t....... or KarenT1228@a.......> wrote re Telemunchen:
>Well, interestingly enough, that German production company is
>actually a subsidiary of a US company, Capital Cities, which also
>owns ABC.
>
>I AM a repostitory of useless information!

So am I.  Additional useless info  :)

This is from Capital Cities/ABC, Inc.'s 1994 Annual Report (page 13) on its
Cable and International Broadcast Group:
"The Group's foreign media joint ventures also achieved better results in
1994.  TeleMunchen (50 percent-owned), a German production and distribution
company, had strong earnings growth."

A&E and Lifetime are also part of the Cable and International Broadcast
Group.

Cap Cities' 1995 Annual Report should be out next month.

BTW, I've been lurking these woods for about 3 months.  You people are the
greatest!

Elisa
<fuja@n.......  or  fuja@a........

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 21:16:47 -0800
From:    LC Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>
Subject: Re: German and 50% coverage

Amely wrote:

I'm worried about what the effects of this third season will be on the
>fourth season question.  I know that the reason JP et al went with
>USA, aside from it being a good deal, is because in syndication FK
>only had 50% coverage over the US.

More precisely, TriStar was only able to attain 50% clearance of the
show during and before NATPE, based upon the deal it was then offering.

>But the deal is, now FK really does only have 50% coverage period.

No, not so.  After USA came into the picture, I believe TriStar changed
the terms of the deal with the syndies, and ultimately, FK achieved
over 90% clearances (coverage in syndie markets). Word to that effect
was printed last summer in Electronic Media.  (I remember posting it to
the list, in very sarcastic fashion.)

>I think TriStar may be losing A LOT of money making the rest of the
>season.

TriStar is losing money largely because USA pulled out (though they're
mitigating by making the eps more cheaply).  I heard something
interesting tonight, which *may* explain a lot.  Remember how TriStar
had invited Ger to attend NATPE to promote FK, and then told him not to
bother coming?  We all thought it was because the syndies were unhappy
with the sweeps numbers, but what if it was because USA had begun
making its noises about pulling out?  After all, if TriStar hadn't been
hearing reasonably positive noises from the syndies, they probably
wouldn't have asked Ger to attend in the first place.

A friend of mine with industry connections told me tonight that
Telemunchen wasn't the only party demanding 22 eps;  a number of the
syndies were as well because FK is drawing decent-good numbers. (Figure
Dallas is probably one of these.)  Verrrry interesting, if true, but it
makes our task that much harder:  replacing the USA money.  NOT an easy
task.

We'll probably never know the truth, but it is interesting to
speculate...

>If we could get more coverage for this season, maybe TriStar would
>consider another.

It's a good thought, but, as I said, FK already has 90%+ clearance.
It's just not on advantageous (for TriStar) terms, since they were
counting on USA money.  And with that gone...

Laurie CF

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:17:52 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <raissa@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK in syndication (fwd)

Hi all,
Just got this response from Fred regarding FK's future. Apparently, we're
not out of the woods yet. Those of you working on the NATPE angle should
get your vampire ducks in a row as soon as possible. And I'm not kidding,
there really is a webpage for a vampire duck! Check it out under the
dominion's horror/gothic section. http://www.scifi.com. You'll need netscape.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:00:09 -0500
From: ZOOMAR1010@a.......
To: raissa@i.......
Subject: Re: FK in syndication

Raissa,,

Not so fast..
As of Friday evening, TriStar has not committed and they won't let us know
until next week.
Local stations have to be conatcted and I have to hope that when they go to
NATPE that they ask TriStar to continue the series next year..

Fred

and

Raissa Devereux
raissa@i.......

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:22:48 -0700
From:    Lashoka BirthFire <lashoka@p.......>
Subject: Change in your subscription options for the FORKNI-L list (fwd)

Excuse me? Is this person having the athority to change my subscription
options?  Without my permission? I am highly curious about this, and I am
sorry, but I do not have Jaye's address to ask privately....
IF someone can clear this up...?


>Fri, 5 Jan 1996 23:23:54

>Don Fasig  <phase3@g.......> has  just altered your  subscription options
>for the FORKNI-L list as per  the "SET FORKNI-L NOMAIL" command. For more
>information about  subscription options, send a  "QUERY FORKNI-L" command
>to LISTSERV@p....... (or LISTSERV@PSUVM.BITNET).

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:31:01 -0700
From:    Raissa Devereux <raissa@i.......>
Subject: Correction about vamp. duck.

Hello,
I was wrong about the vamp duck. You don't need netscape to view it, but
you need netscape to view other things on the page.

                                Raissa Devereux
                                raissa@i.......

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:35:45 EST
From:    MS CHRISTINA L KAMNIKAR <VQRW76A@p.......>
Subject: Chocolate, fangs, and other stuff

Oh, Alyson, how can I thank you for the suggestion? <small evil grin> You
think I'm not capable of sucking the peanut butter out of a Reese's? Guess
again... I would, but I might accidentally consume chocolate, so I'm taking
no chances.

Karma, Destiny, Fate, Luck---whatever you call 'em---the cosmic goddesses
of Chance can not be bargained with. That said... it does not do to pi**
them off by not keeping one's promises. This is merely a show of gratitude
on my part, not the payment of a debt, since there is no way a mere
mortal's offer of chocolate sacrifice could influence them to give me my
own way.

Maybe that's why the God of Bad Timing has it in for Natalie? Maybe she
didn't keep some promise? Whaddaya think?

On an entirely other subject inspired by the word Chance---anyone see
Strange Luck tonight? There was this terrific Nick/Nat song playing in the
background at one point, but I have NO idea who sings it. I'm willing to
bet the title is "Holy Ground", but I'm not sure... 'their love couldn't
grow in the daylight, it slipped into the night'... you get the idea. Any
help with this is welcome.

I'll also pledge for the Perks when the bicycle thing gets organized.

Cherri---been there. Doing that. I'll buy you a T-shirt if you lose the 20
pounds. Cross my heart.
Jill---I'll send in a FRIENDS bottle-top for you if you want. Would a trip
to Hollywood cheer you up?:)
Kristina---good going! Try watching 90210 with the sound off, and talking
back to the TV set. Makes watching it much easier.

Is this a wellness meeting or what? Scary scary scary. E-mail me off-line
if you need help keeping your vows, guys.

Christina, recovering chocoholic
vqrw76a@p.......
"He's only mostly dead." -  Princess Bride :)

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 22:00:55 -0800
From:    Lisa Luksus <tokaara@i.......>
Subject: WHEN we get a 4th season resolution

OK...*when* we get a fourth season, I will give up badmouthing the guy in my
writers' group who critiqued a chapter of mine by saying "Thank God it's
over!"  <You have no idea how difficult this will be for me.>  And maybe
I'll start going to the health club regularly again too.

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:00:14 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: Change in your subscription options for the FORKNI-L list (fwd)

On Jan 05, 1996 22:22:48, 'Lashoka BirthFire
<lashoka@p.......>' wrote:


>
>Excuse me? Is this person having the athority to change my subscription
>options?  Without my permission? I am highly curious about this, and I am
>sorry, but I do not have Jaye's address to ask privately....
>IF someone can clear this up...?

(The Illustrated Webgoddess raises her hand to speak)

Yes, he does.  So do I.

Don Fasig and I are the official "Listjanitors" -- that is, we sweep up
after the parade, i.e. altering subscriptions when necessary due to BOUNCES
or other technical problems.  Jaye bestowed this limited authority upon us
just before we got The News and everything went berserk, so it's no wonder
you missed the notice.  We're not listowners, Don and I: we don't set
policy or any such thing, we just fix some of the worst problems so that
Jaye and Laurie S. don't have to.

(Well, Don does most-to-all of the fixing.  My provider seems to have some
sort of 'spam filter' preventing me from getting the bulk of the bounce
notices.  I'm still trying to work that out.)

If you were set to nomail, it means that your list mail was somehow being
bounced back to the listserv.  This might indicate a temporary problem with
your local provider.  Usually, the remedy is to simply set your
subscription back the way it was.  If this is something that keeps
happening repeatedly, then a bit more troubleshooting is in order,
obviously.

Either way: for anyone getting one of those notices, all it means is that
there is a Technical Problem of some sort, and we/Don, your friendly
hardworking Listjanitor, is giving his all to keep the list running.
Please, don't think it's anything personal!  Believe me, it's not!  :-)

Hope this clears up any confusion.

--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R. --The Illustrated Cousin -- Mercenary -- SFK WebGoddess
Save Forever Knight! --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

*** WAR #6: THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONAL ***

"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade." -- Jaye the Red

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:10:35 -0500
From:    Jill Lundberg <JLDolphin@a.......>
Subject: Re: Giving up smoking  and  coffee

For all you people out there in nicotine and caffeie cravings and withdrawal,
just look at it this way:

Now you can more closely identify with Nick, because you'll soon know how he
feels not being able to satisfy an unbearable craving. <vbeg>

Jill Lundberg,  Knightie,   Nick&NatPack,  Defender of Vachon
JLDolphin@a.......
'Well pardon me for not being among your clique of the living!'
Mildred Mallory (as played by Jean Stapleton)    in 'Ghost Mom'

Bugs Bunny:  You realize of course that this means war.

Daffy Duck: (to USA of course)   You're deeessssppicaable!!!

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:20:15 -0600
From:    Diane Echelbarger <gryphon@e.......>
Subject: Re: Telemuchen & Capital Cities SILLINESS ALERT! <g>

Karen <ktobin@t....... or KarenT1228@a.......> wrote re Telemunchen:
>Well, interestingly enough, that German production company is
>actually a subsidiary of a US company, Capital Cities, which also
>owns ABC.

You want a really scary scenario?  I heard on the radio today that Disney and
Capital Cities want to *merge* and it's being held up by the government
shutdown.  Which means, indirectly, *Disney* could be financing FK for the
fourth season?

Now *that's* a terrifying image (to me, anyway): Nick, LaCroix, et al as done
by DISNEY! <Shudder> (Sorry, Alikhat! ;> )

Images of Nick & Nat in a Pocahontas-like love scene... <shudder>

Or LaCroix and Cruella deVille teaming up to take out Perry!   Or...

Ooo... somebody stop me! <eg>

Diane E
NATPE-FK Campaign Coordinator
# D Echelbarger                    gryphon@e.......    #
#    WWW HomePage:    http://www.execpc.com/~echelbar/ #
# "Ask, and it shall be given to you."  Matthew 7:7    #

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Date:    Fri, 5 Jan 1996 23:10:17 -48000
From:    Merrill Lee <merrill@a.......>
Subject: Happyness and a thought

Hi all!
Why am I so happy, beside the fact that there will be 22 eps this
weekend?  I'm happy because I'm using PINE again... wonderful, beautiful
pine...pine that will let you postpone...pine that will keep your read
mail forever but not clutter up your HDD... pine that will tell you when
your mail was addressed to you or sent on a distributed list... oh happy,
happy am I!  I think, in fact, that if this goes well, I will be
unsubscribing from the list on AOL and having it all come here!!  AOL
that is eating mail and unfun things like that.  But that's not what you
care about.. and I'm wasting bandwidth, but I'm so happy.
Thought #1... just e-mailed myself the Sony web page, and then I noticed
that Tracey is a 25-year old cop.  So, as she said in MBIAV, she'd been
in uniform for 5 years.  She got out of the academy at 20.  How long does
it take to get out of the academy?  Anyway... does the academy count as
college?  I mean can you take algebra there if you want?  If not, that's
pretty interesting.  I mean I guess that's normal for a cop, but I hadn't
thought about it before... do you think she'd ever want to go to college
later on in life?  Do you think that she might one day regret doin' the
same thing her dad did?
Thought #2... some Nat-Packer vow, and I forget whose, really made me
sad.  All of the vows were either healthy choices, or silly or tormenting
vows.  But someone swore that they wouldn't ever watch Only the Lonely
again, and I think that's a sad vow.  I mean.. so that I can watch more
FK, I will not watch FK.  Do you think if we all said it was okay this
Natpacker could qualify her vow and say.. no more than once a month or
year... or not for the next 3 months?  I don't think anyone should have
to give up FK on behalf of FK... I don't think the promise gods would be
upset about that... it just makes sense, right?
Thought #3... I love pine
Thought #4... in 2 weeks, I will be heading to Rome, then Cairo to study
Egyptology.  If anyone knows anyone who is in either place, please e-mail
me because that would be cool to meet someone who might want to show me
places... I will only be in Rome for 24 hours about...

oh... Sandra about my mentioning Capitol Offense... i thought you said
that you couldn't remember Nick killing anyone cop-style period... not
just in front of Nat... sorry!  I'm reading things funny :)
-Anne
amely@a.......   amely@j.......
merrill@a.......
formerly at toole@h.......  soon to be at ????

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:51:54 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Spam, etc.

Three things this time:

(1) In light of the interest in the Spam pages on the 'net, it occurs to
me that it would be nice to create a sponsor subpage (on Jamie's Save FK
page) with a list of sponsors and maybe even links to web pages of FK
sponsors who have them.  The subpage could be called "Thanks to Our
Sponsors" and have links to internet pages of the show's sponsors.  Given
the growth in use of the internet for advertising, there must be a few
sponsors out there with web pages.  AOL must have one.  Perhaps we could
just list the sponsors we know of and thank them publicly.  It's just
another way to say "thanks" and take advantage of this internet
technology.  Then of course we could write to all the sponsors and let
them know we're giving them free advertising.  (Well, not so free, Jamie's
AOL bill must be reaching astronomical proportions given the time she's
putting in on the page & the list.... Love ya, webgoddess!)

Hey, if coming up with the idea means I have to help put it together,
just e-mail me and I'll pitch in!

(2) The actual advertisement I recall watching during "Blackwing" on USA
last month was not for Spam itself but for Spam Lite.  No, it's not an
oxymoron (or an oxyGump if the Sony censoring machine is out there
somewhere! :).  It has half the fat and 1/3 the calories of regular Spam,
which means it still has a fair amount, but what do you want, it's canned
meat for gosh sakes!  I bought two cans of Spam Lite at the supermarket
today (none of the local convenience stores had the Lite variety!).  At
least one can will be opened and taste-tested at my FK party tomorrow --
umm, it's after midnight, so I guess I mean today, Jan. 6.  Be there for
the unveiling!  Yum!

Wow, just read the ingredients on the Spam Lite can.  It has both pork
and chicken.  Most of the rest of the ingredients involve the terms
"salt" or "sodium"!

Hey, you guys who bought regular Spam -- is there any chicken in your cans?

Egads, I think it's time to move this discussion to the newsgroup alt.spam!

(3) Finally, and on a non-Spam related note, I sent myself a test
postcard from Sony the other day and it no longer switches the word ass
into elbow or glass into glelbow.  Someone must have removed that word
from the list of no-nos.  But it *still* turns the word moron into
Gump and oxymoron into oxyGump.  And that "rhymes with duck" thing is
still in there.  And I'm sending a box of virtual chocolate to anyone who
can figure out what word it converts into "sweetie"!  ;)
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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:14:55 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Telemuchen & Capital Cities

My apologies if someone else posted this,but the Cap Cities thing has
been bugging me for days. Disney has bought Cap Cities. The DJ's on WPLJ
in NYC were talking about it the other morning,joking about being
Mickey's (my namesake) employees.

The night is only as dark as the thought of no "FOREVER KNIGHT".
"Forever Knight" needs your help! Write to: Pres. Jon Feltheimer Tri-Star TV.
9336 West Washington Blvd Culver City CA 90232 AND write to your local affiliate
SAVE FK HOMEPAGE: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Thank you for your support! SAVE "FOREVER KNIGHT" !!!!!

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:20:24 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Police Academy

  The police academy is just a matter of a few months. Most depts ahve
switched to requiring a 4 year college degree,but in the past,this was
not required and it would be very feasible for her to have gone to the
academy and graduated at age 20.

The night is only as dark as the thought of no "FOREVER KNIGHT".
"Forever Knight" needs your help! Write to: Pres. Jon Feltheimer Tri-Star TV.
9336 West Washington Blvd Culver City CA 90232 AND write to your local affiliate
SAVE FK HOMEPAGE: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Thank you for your support! SAVE "FOREVER KNIGHT" !!!!!

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:41:01 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Newsgroups

On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Lisa Wolters wrote:

> I checked the newsgroup yesterday, and noted that the folks over there are
> frustratingly out of it, with many even questioning the validity of our SOS
> posts (i.e., wishful thinking at its worst).  >:-(   In response, I posted
> some updated info., and got a nice message back from this guy thanking me/the
> list for keeping him informed.

I posted to Lisa personally also,but yes I'm angry. Every day I go
through about 20 mailing lists, some of these lists have had up to 400
posts in a day and I sit there checking every topic for the slightest
reference to FK. I E-mail each person that has had any question about FK,
I post a general note every day. I have changed my sig yet again. I sift
through literally 1000's of posts. I posted the Fangoria information to
the mailing lists. With all this I then have people privately E-mailing
me who have additional questions. My mailbox is never under 100 messages
and that is with me going to the INBOX about 5 times during the day alone
and about another 3 at night. I have also been sending messages to the
people on AOL. My son has been home sick for the last two days and I
haven't been feeling well either,but ya know what,thats neither here nor
there,we all have lives.
But to the people who do not like the way the newsgroups are handled and
if I missed one person's post today and that translates to frustratingly
misinformed,then please take it! I have seen so many of you on these
mailing lists talking about the topic of the list but no mention of FK,no
sig change and I politely asked if y'all could just say something,some
have and I thank you all for that.
  Yes, I've got my Irish up and its not just this. I was told by someone
to change my sig another said "newsgroups,thats your job isn't it?"
  I hate cry babies,but I'm pissed.

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 03:14:24 -0500
From:    Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: Re: Fwd: request for sword pin

Whoa, whoa, whoa!  Annemarie!  Stop!  Wait!  Oh my god, I'm *sorry*!  Really!
 That's not what I meant by my post!  No, no, no, no, no!  Not at all!
 *Honest*!!!!!  :(

What I meant is that the *attitude* of many of the *people on the newsgroup*
is out of it, not that you have been doing a poor job or ANYTHING like that.


It seems like no matter what wonderful folks like yourself tell them, many of
them remain apathetic or disbelieving.  That's why I posted my own "update"
message there, because I was just so frustrated by the fact that no matter
how often you or other people were posting news updates and addresses there,
so many of them were actually questioning you and refusing to believe that FK
might get cancelled.

*That* is what I meant by "frustratingly out of it."

It was not a flame, or a put down, or ANYTHING of that nature!  That is *all*
that I meant by my post, and I am **truly** deeply sorry that you thought of
it in any other way.  I did NOT say anywhere nor did it even occur to me to
imply that the people on the newsgroup were misinformed.

I said that THEY seemed "out of it," not that YOU were out of it, and of
their own choosing, and despite all of the evidence laid out so carefully
before them.  No, no, no, no, no!!!!!!!

People like you have been doing the newsgroup a great service.  What I don't
get is why so many of the folks over there just haven't seemed to catch the
clue yet that the threat to FK is real, after all of your efforts.

That's ALL I meant.

I'm *truly, truly, truly* sorry if you thought otherwise.

FWIW, as angry as you feel and sounded both in your post to me and to the
list, I am sitting here at my keyboard shaking like a leaf, unable to believe
that you could even think I would think something like that.

Lisa
MVRJasper@a.......

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 03:15:32 -0500
From:    Lynne Ackerman <be028@f.......>
Subject: Please wait

If anyone is waiting for an answer from me, please wait a little longer.
Something is wrong with my Prodigy account and I can't mail anything from
it just now.  And unfortunately this freenet account is too unwieldy to
send out anything but very short messages.  Hopefully the problem with
Prodigy will be fixed soon.  Thanks for your patience.

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
'Hollywood North')!!  E-mail address via Internet is be028@t........

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Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:31:45 -0800
From:    Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: Advetisers

Hi ALL!

  I can't take it any longer.

  I live it Placentia, California.  It's about 15 miles North of Disneyland.
  Our local affiliate is CBS.

  One of the advertisers for FK is Sophia's Greek Restaurant which is in
Placentia, less than a  mile away from where I live.

  Sophia's advertises as one of their specialties..... Souvlaki.

  They have lamb, beef, chicken or Keftades Souvlaki.

  As some of you recall, I promised to lose 20 lbs and as a very few of you
know, I have delayed my weight loss program until Wednesday.  This is
because I promised myself  that I would try Souvlaki for the first time on
Tuesday.  (I also need the days to sic myself up for this.)

So.. if anyone wishes to thank this long time advertiser, the address follows.

BTW, this restaurant is privately owned and is not a chain.  Someone,
somewhere involved with the restaurant and/or Comcast Cable must be a FoD.

Sophia's Greek Cuisine
1390 N. Kraemer Blvd.
Placentia, CA 92670
(714) 528-2021

Please note that Kraemer is spelled correctly.  It really is spelt with an
** ae **.

"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......>  FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
                         --------------------
FOREVER KNIGHT has been cancelled. Please help save it by writing:
Tristar/Columbia Pictures TV, 00000 Xxxxxxxxxx Xxxx, Xxxxxx Xxxx, XX 00000
USA Networks 0000 Xxxxxx Xx Xxx Xxxxxxxx, Xxx Xxxx, XX 00000
**or check out**  http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

------------------------------

Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 03:51:01 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Tracy/  Police Academy

On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald wrote:

>   The police academy is just a matter of a few months. Most depts ahve
> switched to requiring a 4 year college degree,but in the past,this was
> not required and it would be very feasible for her to have gone to the
> academy and graduated at age 20.
>
        Yes, but we know she also went to college. Remember in Blackwing,
she said she tried "pre-med, pre-law, computers, anything but another
officer Vetter?"  And do we really think she left college without
graduating?  Not that little girl.  I figure she went to the academy
immediately after graduation.

        And maybe had graduated at age 20 from college.  It happens; I
did; and my stepdad got out at age 18 (of course, he was an Aggie, how
hard can that be?  <ducking bricks from Texas>).  But that would have to
mean that Tracy is... bright?  hardworking?  kind of worthy of respect?

        Remember, I'm a Perkulator now!  (and praying to stay one)


Laura

------------------------------

Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 04:19:20 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: Newsgroups

On Sat, 6 Jan 1996, Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald wrote:

> I have seen so many of you on these
> mailing lists talking about the topic of the list but no mention of FK,no
> sig change


        Hand up here, boss.  Guilty.. with an explanation.

        I've posted to the FK bbs with no sig at all, only silly little
Vachon things, etc., ... but only because I don't know how to make one.
I'm a newbie who got online for the very first time in mid-November,
signed onto this list in late November -- and my life may never ever be
the same.  Adrienne just sighs and says "it's always September somewhere
on the Net..."  then breaks down and teaches me something.

        But.. I don't know how to create and use a sig.  My mail server is
Pine.  Will someone teach me?  (Incidentally, I agree wholly with Anne M.
-- the function of Pine that differentiates personal from list mail is
priceless.)

        Also also...  is there a way in Pine to mark "Important" retained
messages?  I am carrying 600 messages in my inbox alone, plus another 200
or so each in the "FK-info," "FK-useful," and "Fk-cor" files. I don't want
to delete them, they're reference stuff, things I bounce, people's names,
planning stuff, etc.  But I do need a way to mark the press releases and a
few other things, preferably with an asterisk.  Instead, I've just been
forwarding them to myself every 12 hours or so to keep them near the end.

        I'm five megs over my allowance with my server, incidentally.  In
one month and twelve days online.  Amazin'.   C'est la vie.


Laura

Perkulator
Vaquera
Newbie

------------------------------

Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 04:21:11 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: FK Resolutions

On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, LAURA B WASKEY wrote:

>    If Forever Knight is saved, I will........(gasp) yes, I will eat a...
>
> ..........McDonald's Big MAC !!!< noises of stomach churning>
>
>    (And believe me that is asking a lot coming from a vegetarian who hasn't
> eaten red meat in nearly six years! But, I will do this only once and only

You had better save that vow for a 4th season resolution.  I thought the
resolutions were supposed to be difficult things that are good for you,
like Jamie giving up smoking.  Hard to do, but give it your best shot
Jamie.  If you eat a Big Mac after 6 years, you'll get deathly ill, or
close to it.  How about a small 4 oz fillet.  there would be less fat
involved.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

------------------------------

Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 01:31:07 -0800
From:    Alikhat <alikhat@i.......>
Subject: Re: Telemuchen & Capital Cities SILLINESS ALERT! <g>

Diane E wrote:

>You want a really scary scenario?  I heard on the radio today that Disney and
>Capital Cities want to *merge*  Which means, indirectly, *Disney* could be
>financing FK for the fourth season?
>Now *that's* a terrifying image (to me, anyway): Nick, LaCroix, et al as done
>by DISNEY! <Shudder> (Sorry, Alikhat! ;> )
*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*

 Hakuna Matata, Diane!


 Gee, does this mean you don't want to see those six upcoming Disney-ized
episodes waiting to be filmed?

 Episode #319 -  Lady and The Vamp
 Episode #320 -  Fangtasia
 Episode #321 -  The Jugular Book
 Episode #322 -  Hearts Of Duckness
 Episode #323 -  My Boyfriend Is A Mouseketeer

 and my personal favorite,

 Episode # 324 - 101 Damnations!

 And don't think for a minute I wouldn't dare illustrate just what I mean!
Wanna see something *really* scarey?  heh,heh,heh...


 From The Happiest Place On A More Permanent Hell...!!

 Alikhat ( alikhat@i....... )

------------------------------

Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 04:33:03 -0500
From:    Bea Quindlen <OCaoin@a.......>
Subject: Friday's Letter Count

If you have sent correspondence of any type to save FK e-mail me with a count
so we can see how we're doing! Please specify who you sent to, that is, do
not say TPTB. Using the list below as a guide would be a big help. Totals
will be posted daily.
thank you.
OCaoin@a.......
=================================
Time: 5:00 am    Sat. Jan 5, 1996

105 lottery tickets

2078  Letters so far to:
495 Kay Koplovitz    USA
450 Jon Feltheimer  TriStar/Columbia
220 Ron Perth   USA
143 Bonnie Hammer   USA
    7 Telemuchen
  42 Paragon
  49 Sony
  67 TriStar/Columbia
  89 USA - NY
  19 USA - LA
  27 James Parriot
    8 FOX
171 Local Syndicators
282 Sponsors
    5 Cast/Crew
    2 misc.

41 FAXES:
31  Kay Koplovitz    USA
  2  USA
  1  Columbia/TriStar
  7 misc

182 E-MAILS:
  39 USA
  31 Columbia/TriStar
  21 SONY
    7 Fred Mollin
    6 Nigel Bennett
    6 James Parriot
  72 misc

8 Telegrams
38 People have indicated they donated to charity as well.

Misc= Marvin Kittman, Steve Case(AOL), Prodigy, USA Weekend, Ian Spelling, TV
Guide, Sci-Fi Weekly, Entertainment Weekly, Ontario Development Corp., etc.
=============================================

------------------------------

Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 04:50:14 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: JK alert!

On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Deborah Menikoff wrote:

> I was just channel surfing after X-Files and watched the VERY LONG ad
> on HBO  for "The Late Shift" (the movie about the fight between Leno and
> Letterman to host the Tonight Show) and John Kapelos <*sniff* I STILL
> miss Schanke> is > in it as one of Dave's guys...

        In one of those odd little conjunctions, guess who was personally
responsible for luring Letterman to CBS...   yes, friends, Rod Perth.

Remember, that was what displaced FK in the first place, though Perth
later made a point of rerunning eps when USA was thinking about it, and
then brought it to USA himself.


Laura
Perk [rhymes with Merc]


------------------------------

Date:    Sat, 6 Jan 1996 02:53:52 -0800
From:    Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......>
Subject: SILLINESS ALERT! <g>

At 01:31 AM 1/6/96 -0800, you wrote:
ROTFL :  I can't believe your evil mind Alikhat.

I hope someone from the Disney Corporation sees this.  This is incredible.

I'm leaving most of the post in to revamp...I mean... remind everyone of
your post.

Holding sides so they don't hurt so much as I laugh...

>>>>>>>>>  From The Happiest Place On A More Permanent Hell...!!

(I just finished watching that episode.)  Still ROTFL until there are tears
in my eyes.

> Gee, does this mean you don't want to see those six upcoming Disney-ized
>episodes waiting to be filmed?
>
> Episode #319 -  Lady and The Vamp
> Episode #320 -  Fangtasia
> Episode #321 -  The Jugular Book
> Episode #322 -  Hearts Of Duckness
> Episode #323 -  My Boyfriend Is A Mouseketeer
>
> and my personal favorite,
>
> Episode # 324 - 101 Damnations!
>
> And don't think for a minute I wouldn't dare illustrate just what I mean!
>Wanna see something *really* scarey?  heh,heh,heh...
>
>
> From The Happiest Place On A More Permanent Hell...!!
>
> Alikhat ( alikhat@ix,netcom.com )
>
"Cousin Cherri Munoz" <cdmunoz@e.......>  FK Optimist's Club, Sime/Gen
    I don't WANT a new one. I LIKE that one. <LaCroix-Father's Day>
                         --------------------
FOREVER KNIGHT has been cancelled. Please help save it by writing:
Tristar/Columbia Pictures TV, 00000 Xxxxxxxxxx Xxxx, Xxxxxx Xxxx, XX 00000
USA Networks 0000 Xxxxxx Xx Xxx Xxxxxxxx, Xxx Xxxx, XX 00000
**or check out**  http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

------------------------------

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