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Digest - 4 Jan 1996 - Special issue

Thu, 4 Jan 1996

There are 36 messages totalling 1051 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. HUGE GOOD NEWS: I'M A PERKULATOR! (3)
  2. PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (LONG) (4)
  3. Keeping Promises...
  4. Sony executives
  5. Sci Fi Buzz
  6. Imho: The Good Fight (2)
  7. Talking to reporter!! (2)
  8. Writing to Telemunchen
  9. Um.. what about TeleMunchen?
 10. Whimper of Joy
 11. CHARITY: Update Jan. 4 (2)
 12. Janette's History
 13. Fwd: Publicity
 14. Sidelined/Resolutions
 15. Our German link....
 16. Press Release
 17. PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (3)
 18. Semi-serious strategy
 19. Can it be true??
 20. FK's future
 21. Resolutions
 22. Promises, promises...
 23. some ramblings
 24. AOL/Forever Knight connection
 25. Some promises...
 26. ACTIVITY:CONVENTIONS/PARTIES/PLEAS/PUBLICATIONS

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:36:35 -0900
From:    Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: HUGE GOOD NEWS: I'M A PERKULATOR!

No, Jamie is not the one who vowed to give up sex--I am, and I will if
the news is true.  Also, a well-placed Anglo-Saxon term or two never hurt
anyone.
Barbara

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:37:48 -0500
From:    Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: Re: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (LONG)

Hey, Hey Guys:)

>Lisa Ann Prince  will watch "Campus Cops"  *and* write TPTB saying
>she enjoyed it (this I *gotta* read;does the List get a copy?)

Hey, if I've got to sit through watching it, you guys might as well
get some joy out of the mush my mind turns into afterwards ;)  I'll
post it right after I get done with it :)


Lisa Prince (Moonlight)  Official Charity Drive Organizer (moonlight@g.......)
Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Send to:  Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity Organizer,
000 Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx, Xxxxx 000, Xxxxxxx, XX  00000-0000
Rage, my friends, rage against the dying of the Knight

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:11:11 -0330
From:    Ngaire Genge <ngenge@n.......>
Subject: Keeping Promises...

Hi Gang,

Well, being more than a little nervous about the repercussions of broken
promises.... I've just jotted 18 letters in support of the five programs
I couldn't bear to see taken of the air.

For those who've vowed to quit smoking, my sincere sympathy.  Today,
January 4th, is actually the highlight of my holiday season, it's the
anniversary of my first year smoke-free :).  It can be done!  Remember,
whether you have a cigarette or not, the craving _will_ pass.  Take it
one craving at a time.... You'll make it.

Cheers,
Ngaire

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:44:46 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: Sony executives

Karen Tobin wrote:
>Here is the list of Sony addresses, following Sony's hierarchy from
>the top down. I've listed a coplue of the top executives at each
>level.

This is a fantastic list, Karen. THANK YOU.

It would be wonderful (is it possible) to have the fax numbers for these
people, too. (A phone call the length of a fax doesn't cost all that much,
even to Japan -- especially at weird o'clock at night. Especially given the
time difference.)

Thanks.


     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:08:59 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: Sci Fi Buzz

Apache wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Tammy Stephanie Davis wrote: >> Has any mention been
>made to the SciFi Channel's "SciFi Buzz"
>> about our efforts?
>>
>        To the best of my knowledge, no one has yet.  We are talking about
>calling them with a comprehensive message that will give the firm dates
>of the earliest things in which people can participate, like the PAF
>campaign (with a specific money turnover date), blood drives in New York,
>DC (and ?) which are aiming to occur pre-NATPE, and so on.
>
>        A nice irony, eh... use USA's puppy channel to publicize our
>crusade?

But What About ARISIA? That's a *very* firm date, and about as
Sci-Fi-related as things get? Help? Please?

     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:47:38 -0500
From:    June Williams <cousin@w.......>
Subject: Re: Imho: The Good Fight

I'll fight on..As Jaime's sig says War#6, this time it's personal.  I'll
save the world tomorrow, today I'll save my fantasy life.  It means so
much more to me :>  Besides, we're all sharpening are skills.  Better to
operate on the cat than your sister's baby first time out.  No virtual
punches from animal rights activists out there, I love my cat with my
whole heart and soul.

Ad Astra-Cousin June

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:00:09 PST
From:    Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
Subject: Re: HUGE GOOD NEWS: I'M A PERKULATOR!

I agree.  We really need to write and thank Telemuchen.  A BIG bunch of
letters and cards would be excellent.  Do we have anyone? on line in that
area who can find out?

SLG
-----------------------------------------------------
Name: Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS
E-mail: us011164@p.......
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, And say
my glory was I had such friends" in Forever Knight...
-----------------------------------------------------

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:12:09 -0900
From:    Muldy Sculler <ffbmh@a.......>
Subject: Re: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (LONG)

Oh thank the guardians of the knight--someone asked "for how long?"  An
out for me--I will give up sex for 3 months.  Of course, I have not told
my SO this news, yet--life is so full of little surprizes.  But this is
what one must do to maintain the balance of the FK universe.
Barbara

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:02:14 PST
From:    Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
Subject: Re: Talking to reporter!!

Paula -- this is so cooool!  Good luck and do us proud!

SLG
-----------------------------------------------------
Name: Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS
E-mail: us011164@p.......
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, And say
my glory was I had such friends" in Forever Knight...
-----------------------------------------------------

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:15:27 -0500
From:    Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
Subject: Re: HUGE GOOD NEWS: I'M A PERKULATOR!

At 04:45 AM 1/4/96 -0800, Cherri Munoz wrote:

>Hi PERKULATOR Jane!
>
>  <ducking and running for cover as fast as my little legs will take me>

Sorry Cherri, hate to burst your happy little bubble, but....

I never promised to become a Perkulator, I vowed to go to sports events with
my husband for three months without complaining.  And I'm keeping that vow.
Next week, I'm going to a hockey game and a basketball game.  <sigh>

However, if we get a fourth season, I will <gulp> join the ranks of the
Perkulators.  {{{{{{shudder}}}}}}}

There, I said it.  And I didn't break a finger getting it out.

And...Cherri...what are you going to do if we pull this off?  <vbeg>
Jane
janes@i.......
Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
Reality is a Crutch for the Unimaginative -- Ben Bova (Death Dream)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:16:17 -0500
From:    Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
Subject: Writing to Telemunchen

Okay, so I've got their address, and a basic idea for the letter.  Now the
real tough question, should I get out my old trusty university German
textbook and struggle through translating the letter, or are TPTB at
Telemunchen gonna be upset if I manage to get things wrong.  What's better?
Good English?  Semi-good German?  Or a combination of the two?

Guys????

Jane
janes@i.......
Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
Reality is a Crutch for the Unimaginative -- Ben Bova (Death Dream)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:31:57 -0500
From:    Leah Rosenthal <Bizarro7@a.......>
Subject: Re: Um.. what about TeleMunchen?

In a message dated 96-01-04 20:30:10 EST, Anne Merrill writes:

>
>>A friend of mine called TeleMunchen today or yesterday and had this to
>report:
>"I have Speak with Tele Muenchen and there are not needet the 3rd Season to
>Buy for German TV !! And there will also Cancel Forever Knight !! What wi
>will do ??????
<Sniff> !!"
Yep.. he's really a German, if you hadn't figured that out :)  Anyway, so did
TeleMunchen not know then?  Maybe it wasn't TM at all that kept it going?
 Maybe we lost something in the translation <g>?<<

Maybe it wasn't TM at all that kept it going?  I'm not worried about that.
 Now I'm worried about the whole renewal being an unfounded rumor.  Why would
Tele Muenchen lie?  And if they aren't lying, are they misinformed, or are
they telling the truth and someone associated with the show is deliberately
lying to us as to why the decision on FK was reversed?  Perhaps it was NOT
reversed, and this is merely a way to shut us up with false hope?  Now I'm
REALLY confused, really paranoid and really wondering what the source was for
the "Good news".

Leah

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:32:50 -0500
From:    Nancy McCaskey <mccaskn@p.......>
Subject: Re: Whimper of Joy

On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Jill Kirby wrote:
>
> I think we need to start a support group for FK fen giving things up-- it'll
> be a mighty crabby group for a while!

I can picture it now:

soc.support.fk-resolution.grouch.grouch.grouch

:)

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:36:39 -0500
From:    Leah Rosenthal <Bizarro7@a.......>
Subject: Re: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (LONG)

In a message dated 96-01-04 21:33:41 EST, Barbara wrote:

>
>Oh thank the guardians of the knight--someone asked "for how long?"  An
>out for me--I will give up sex for 3 months.

Oh please, these 'sacrifices'...big deal.  Nick hasn't had any in 800 years
and you don't hear him complaining.  Much.  Well, maybe a little.  Okay, a
lot.  Quite a lot.  WELL OKAY, so the whole series is basically about how he
hasn't had any below the neck for 800 years and it's driving him and everyone
around him nutso, OKAYY?????

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:00:02 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: Talking to reporter!!

Dear Paula --

>        I could have sworn my resolution was not to overcame camera
>shyness!! Yet, it seems that it what I must do, if this is to make it
>into the paper.

Congratulations on courage and fortitude. That all *really* isn't easy.

>        I have one more question, this reporter wants to take the picture
>of me, in front of the FK Homepage!! Can somebody give me the URL, I
>usually find it through WebCrawler, but that would take to long in this
>case!!

I noted that someone else posted the address. So: how'd it go???


     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:59:24 -0500
From:    Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: CHARITY: Update Jan. 4

Hey, Hey Everyone :)

Our current charity total is <VBG> and {{{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}
for all you wonderful contributors who have sent in so far:

                       $1,767.00

I have to say, if this does end up being the final season of
Forever Knight, and no I'm not willing to admit that it will be,
<an optimistic Cousin, there's a switch VBG> this charity drive
will be a wonderful way to show the cast and crew how much we loved
their work.  I can't tell you guys how wonderful it is to see
everyone embracing this effort.

Oh that note, I'm thinking of making up a commemorative parchment
with the name of all the contributors that I will finalise after
the drive is over, in February, and send to JP and everyone else at
the show.  That way, no matter what they happen to be doing in the
future, they'll have a gift from the fans of FK to put a smile on
their faces when they think back on their time with the show.

Just a thought.  What do you guys think?


Lisa Prince (Moonlight)  Official Charity Drive Organizer (moonlight@g.......)
Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Send to:  Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity Organizer,
000 Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx, Xxxxx 000, Xxxxxxx, XX  00000-0000
Rage, my friends, rage against the dying of the Knight

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:01:24 -0500
From:    Chanda Keith <ckeith@u.......>
Subject: Janette's History

I hope that some of you can help me with this.  I'm writing a paper on
Janette's history and I need some help with details.  Now  know about what
her life was before she was brought over and about how she seduced Nick,
but are there any other important details that I should add?  It's for the
homepage I'm working on.


Chanda Keith Ravenette and Immortal Beloved
ckeith@u....... or cwkeith@c.......
"Forever Knight has been cancelled.  If you want to help efforts to reverse
this decision, visit the official Save FK Webpage!" at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:04:15 -0500
From:    Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: Fwd: Publicity

'Got this message from Jacqui Lichtenberg today, and thought I'd pass it
along for the list's benefit.  It's a spendy-ish thing, but might be
worthwhile for someone to purchase if they do/plan to do a lot of publicity
things anyway...

And to Laura/Apache:  Bless you, woman, for the news of our reprieve!

To Laurie CF, whom I've dubbed NAPTE Ad-Goddess:  Bless you, too!  :)

....and for my very own if-we-get-a-fourth-season resolution...  <<oh god,
this is gonna hurt, I mean *really* hurt, worse than becoming a Perkulator,
or giving up chocolate, or eating spam...>> I, vocal Vacant-basher and hater
of the Gen X/slacker bad-boy vampire, will join the Ben Bass Fan Club.
 <<Karen, was that the sound of you fainting?!>>  (Of course, if BB doesn't
return, this offer is null & void...it's in the fine print somewhere.) (and
maybe nobody will catch this...it *almost* worked for Dianne...)

And now, from Mrs. Lichtenberg:
*****************************
-- [ From: Jacqueline Lichtenberg * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] --

Lisa:

I got a mis-addressed magazine in my pob directed to small business
runners.

An ad in the back has a whole bunch of specialty software for sale.

One software package (for Windows) is called PUBLICITY BUILDER and says
"create public relations like a pro . . . without the cost of an
agency!

They have Mac and Windows and Dos versions.

It comes with a 126 page manual on 3 1/2" disks.

It's usually $129 but on sale for $99 at
1-800-429-7107.

I know absolutely nothing at all about this item other than what I've
said here but I thought it might be something that the list should be
made aware of in case there's anyone who wants it or can use it.

I just saw the Alien Nation movie with Matt writing his Dectective II
report/test using school software that writes reports for you.  Of
course that's a laugh, but there's an irony in it that didn't escape
me.

This software ad may be trying to appeal to that element in human
nature that Matt exemplifies - a tool that will "do the job for you"
but in fact deliver nothing more than a word processor delivers to a
fiction writer.

Live Long and Prosper,
Jacqueline Lichtenberg

************************

Lisa with a W
MVRJasper@a.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:08:48 +48000
From:    Valerie Meachum <valerie@l.......>
Subject: Sidelined/Resolutions

Hi, guys.  I'm sick.

Scratch that.  I'm real sick.  My options at this point are basically (a)
inactivity, or (b) pneumonia.  (Touch wood I don't wind up with both.)  :-(

Needless to say, the good news about Round One (well, of *this*
battle...we have had four before...) couldn't have come at a better time,
as I am definitely on the bench for a while.  So consider my retroactive
vow for getting the rest of this season to sit still for as long as it
takes to breathe without conscious effort again.  %-}  (What can I say?
I *am* a summa cum laude grad of the Natalie Lambert School of Impeccable
Timing, y'know!)

I'm open to suggestions for Round Two.  It's tricky, because if I think I
should do something I tend to do it anyway; that's why I've never made
New Year's resolutions.  I'm very stubborn.  :-)  As for embarrassing
stunts...well, everyone who gets hired at BalletMet finds out within the
week about the day I did the Human Race charity fun run in rollerskates
and a pink tutu; and I'm also known for wearing about anything that won't
get me arrested.

I'd like to do that bike trip, but I don't think I could get the time
off.  (I'd even do *that* in a pink tutu...)

I want to make a resolution, but my brain cells are all deflated.  Can I
borrow some of you folks' creativity?  I'll give it back, I promise...

Keepin' the Faith (and poppin' yet another unpronounceable antibiotic...),

Valerie Lynn Meachum   <valerie@l.......>
FOREVER KNIGHT IS IN IMMINENT DANGER OF CANCELLATION!
For more info, visit http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Facts are the enemy of truth." --Don Quixote de la Mancha

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:11:54 -0500
From:    Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: Our German link....

Wow, I just decided to surf my way over to the German Forever Knight page
on the web -- despite the fact that I don't speak any German.  You can
find it at:
  http://www.dortmund.netsurf.de/~lkoch/thomas

This is a very cool site!  And, interestingly enough (especially given
this TeleMunchen stuff), there is a link to Jamie's "Save FK" page in
there.  (OK, I could decipher that much of the page.)

It is a very nicely built site!  I think it's a fan page, because it even
has fan-produced art.  My favorite:  "Nick mit Lederjacke"!

I think most of the biographical & other info is a translation of the
information available on the Sony web site or Jasmine's page.  The film
credits here are quite exhaustive.  They've also added some screen
captures, so that the bios of the stars have pictures to go along with
them.  Nice touch!

They even have a .wav file collection so you can here the show's prologue
in German.  Plus lots more....  Including Nick's famous line from Dark
Knight (when he realizes Schanke has been assigned to be his partner)
"Will somebody shoot me... please?" in both English and German!


Oh, on another note, did someone ask me for the website for the "Sammy
Souvlaki Page"?  I seem to remember someone mentioning it at Ron's
party....  If anyone wants it, you can set your browser to
"http://biznow.com/sammy.htm" and see if you can see Schanke waiting in
line for a Souvlaki.  I keep hoping he'll show up one of these days....

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Allison Percy, Knightie                   percy91@w.......
    __o     Pedal for Forever Knight and the Pediatric AIDS Foundation!
  _`\<,_    Contact percy91@w....... to find out how to
 (*)/ (*)   pledge your support and/or join the ride!
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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:16:55 -0500
From:    Siona <siona@n.......>
Subject: Press Release

I e-mailed a copy of the press release to Y100 which is a Philadelphia
radio station.  Here's the response that I received:

----------------
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:02:00 -0500
From: Y100@a.......
To: siona@n.......
Subject: Re: General Press Release

You should find a link from our page to yours within the next day or so.
 Hope it helps!

-Darius, Y100 I'net Guy & Prog. Asst.
------------

I'm not sure if he means Jamie's page, which is in the press release, or
mine, which currently leads right to Jamie's.

--
Siona@n.......

"Murphy was an optimist!"
Lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.
http://www.netaxs.com/~siona/

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:14:03 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT!

On Jan 04, 1996 21:36:39, 'Leah Rosenthal <Bizarro7@a.......>' wrote:

>Oh please, these 'sacrifices'...big deal.  Nick hasn't had any in 800 years
>and you don't hear him complaining....

It has been emphatically and definitively stated that FK vamp sex involves
penetration above and below the waist, and that the advertisement
propagating the above p.o.v. was done without consent.

But I'm sure USA will be glad to know that someone's been paying attention
to their commercials.

And while we're on the subject of 'sacrifices' being a big deal...  I must
have missed Ms. Rosenthal's entry on the aforementioned "list of vows".
What was your promise again, Leah?

--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R. --The Illustrated Cousin -- Mercenary
Save Forever Knight! --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

*** WAR #6: THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONAL ***
Kicking the Nicotine Habit for Forever Knight!
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade." -- Jaye the Red

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:25:40 +48000
From:    Valerie Meachum <valerie@l.......>
Subject: Semi-serious strategy

I was going to write a vignette about this, but that would break my "sit
still and get healthy" resolution; I'm pushing it to be checking mail and
I promise to go to bed very soon.

During the NatPack Yule gathering last weekend, it occurred to me that if
this group had any more connections and clout, we could probably engineer
a leveraged buyout of Tri-Star inside of a month.

Anybody else want to write the vignette?  Could be very satisfying...  We
all found the idea entertaining, and I thought we'd share it.  Wish I'd
done it then, when we all *really* needed to chuckles.

BUT, on a slightly more reality-based level (who, me, connected to
reality?  I MUST be sick.), Jack and I were talking tonight about the
various ideas that had been bandied about for raising money amongst
ourselves to pay for production.

We thought of another one to toss into that brew: if TriStar owns the
various rights and copyrights to the show, and TriStar isn't interested
in keeping it alive, what would be the feasibility of gathering the
necessary amount for JP to buy out those rights?  If this were to be
considered seriously, of course, we'd have to find out if he *wanted*
that or whether it would work--or maybe another big-daddy company that
could be convinced of the value of the property?

Just a thought, back in brainstorming mode.

Keepin' the Faith (and thinking outside the boundaries 'cause it's a
natural instinct as well as a NatPack prerequisite...hey, there's a
*reason* I identify with a character who thinks of things like
jump-starting a vampire's CNS with rat poison!),

Valerie Lynn Meachum   <valerie@l.......>
FOREVER KNIGHT IS IN IMMINENT DANGER OF CANCELLATION!
For more info, visit http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
"Facts are the enemy of truth." --Don Quixote de la Mancha

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:30:27 -0800
From:    Eliot <ejdjd@i.......>
Subject: Re: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT! (LONG)

At 09:36 PM 1/4/96 -0500, Leah Rosenthal wrote:

>Oh please, these 'sacrifices'...big deal.  Nick hasn't had any in 800 years
and you don't hear him complaining.  Much.  Well, maybe a little.  Okay, a
lot.  Quite a lot.  WELL OKAY, so the whole series is basically about how he
hasn't had any below the neck for 800 years and it's driving him and
everyone around him nutso, OKAYY?????
>

        I thank you, Leah, for putting a smile on my husband's face when it
comes to the Knight!  I was ROTFL after reading your message and I had to
print it out for him so that he would understand what had interrupted the
lawyerly course of his office appointments!

        'Course he wanted to make sure it *didn't* apply to him!
Jackie

Support your local Attorney
Send your kid to Medical School
ejdjd@i.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:30:19 -0500
From:    Lisa Anne Prince <Moonlight@g.......>
Subject: Re: Imho: The Good Fight

Hey, Hey Guys :)

>June wrote about previous post:
>I'll fight on..As Jaime's sig says War#6, this time it's personal.
>I'll save the world tomorrow, today I'll save my fantasy life.

This is, of course, only my humble opinion, but you can't save a
world that doesn't want to be saved.  While it's a nice thought to
think that we can revamp the ratings system and turn the television
industry inside out, we need to let them know that there is a
problem with their system of ratings.  The only way to do that is
to get their attention through the types of action we're taking
now.  The Mass Public is becoming more vocal about its wants and we
are having an impact, whether it is a large enough one is yet to be
seen.  The important thing is for us to keep trying.

I, for one, do not feel that I am wasting my time and I take
exception to anyone that says I am.  If our donation to the
Pediatric aIDS Foundation helps even one child or makes the
remaining days of their short, tragic lives a little easier,
everything (the letters, the lottery tickets, blood drives, and all
our other efforts) will have been more than worth it.


Lisa Prince (Moonlight)  Official Charity Drive Organizer (moonlight@g.......)
Please make checks payable to the Pediatric AIDS Foundation
Send to:  Lisa Prince, PAF "Forever Knight" Group Charity Organizer,
000 Xxxxxxxxxxx Xxxxxx, Xxxxx 000, Xxxxxxx, XX  00000-0000
Rage, my friends, rage against the dying of the Knight

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:19:13 EST
From:    MS CHRISTINA L KAMNIKAR <VQRW76A@p.......>
Subject: Can it be true??

Really? Honestly? You wouldn't all be messing with my head, right?

If it's true... that's wonderful news!!!! But I can't... I'm sorry, I have
this problem with getting my hopes up... Could someone official, or even
semi-official, *please* confirm this!? (Hello, Fred, Nigel, are you
 listening???)

I'm staring at my Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. The last Peanut Butter cups I
will be eating until Easter. The Last Chocolate I Will Be Eating Until
Easter.  Valentine's Day is five weeks away and I made a public vow not to
eat chocolate, any chocolate, and to give away what I had to my
co-workers........I NEED CONFIRMATION HERE, PEOPLE.

Maybe that Tinkerbell thing, and all the vows we made, and all our hoping
*did* make a difference, in some small way, even if the reason FK is
getting picked up because the Germans have good taste in TV.  I used to be
able to prove the most outrageous things, like a butterfly doing a 180 in
Egypt can affect the weather in Bombay; maybe this is like that. :)

I'm an engineer, not a statistician, but what what's-her-name from Toad
Hall said made sense. Looks like a money-making op to me.

Anyone else who is giving stuff up: Jamie, Jill, Cousin Lu/Diane, give a
yell if you need moral support. I know I will be whimpering about this
chocolate thing for a very, very long time.

But a Merc's word is her bond, and I'm not ticking off the Karma Goddesses
when they've just given me what I asked for. It'll be good practice for the
fourth season promise of giving up chocolate until Halloween. (I can't
believe I promised this...)

Confirmation! Confirmation! Any confirmation, please!!!!

Christina, vqrw76a@p.......
"Death can not stop True Love", and now I almost believe, say amen!

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:39:00 EST
From:    Maryann Jorgensen <majorge@i.......>
Subject: Re: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT!

Uh...guy... I think we all had better engage *humor* circuits<VVBG>
Maryann Jorgensen  majorge@i.......
****************************************************************************
**********
He was a vampire homicide cop, bent on atonement.  We are his followers,
sworn to believe in:  Truth, Justice, The end not justifying the means, Cool
Caddies(regardless of color), Shots of Ger without a shirt...We are KNIGHTIES!!

Knighties, you gotta love 'em--they can't believe Nick <won't> save the day.
  --Susan M. Garrett
****************************************************************************
**********

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:43:59 -0500
From:    Deborah Bender <DBendr@a.......>
Subject: FK's future

     I have read here that the "magic number" of episodes a series has to
produce in order to be packaged for syndication as a rerun series is 70. FK
will reach that number exactly if all the episodes originally contracted for
this season get made.
     The original Star Trek acquired its enormous influence in large part as
a result of syndicated reruns after the series went off the air. Forever
Knight seems to acquire more fans the longer it is shown, so the same could
happen for us.
      It will be a real shame if the show doesn't have a fourth season with
the same creative team and most of the current cast. But GWD isn't going to
stick around indefinitely even if there is a fourth season--he'll get too old
for the part and the exposure is probably bringing him more lucrative
opportunities (why else would he be moving to Southern California?) Before
FK, he was well regarded on the Canadian stage, but he was a pretty obscure
TV actor.
      It may not have seemed so at the time, but one of the good things about
the reworking of the show this season was the opening up of the theme to
include interactions between other major characters that don't involve Nick
directly. I complained as much as anyone about the loss of Janette (and to a
lesser extent, Schanke). But the net result of the introduction of the new
characters, especially vampire characters, is that the show now has the
potential to be essentially immortal. ( "How appropriate."--Lucien LaCroix )
 Like the Dr. Who series, they can bring in one or two new principal actors
and keep right on going. The moral dilemmas of vampire existence can be
explored by other characters, in other relationships. And this means that if
they keep picking up fans with reruns, and James Parriott stays interested,
Forever Knight can be brought back from hiatus any time the money is
available.

Deborah Bender   dbendr@a.......
don't spell my screenname dbender, please

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:28:41 -0500
From:    "Susan M. Garrett" <susang@v.......>
Subject: Resolutions

For those new Perks--

Do you want a coffee pot or a button on the affilaition pin?

For the bicyclists--

I'll pledge $$$ later.  Right now, would you like a special affilaition pin
to wear on your long trip?

And as for me . . . um--

I think I've gotta go track down a can of virtual turtle wax.

Regards
susang@v.......  -- http://www.vitinc.com/~susang
Get all your info for Saving Forever Knight from:
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:47:08 -0800
From:    Abby <albrecht@s.......>
Subject: Re: Promises, promises...

On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Dianne Therese De Sha wrote:

>         *** _When_ we get a fourth season of FK, I will take
>         *** it to the very next list party I attend and make
>         *** a public spectacle of myself by eating the whole
>         *** thing right there!
>
Yes, she's talking about SPAM! Yum!

And I hereby offer my apartment for the list party she mentions.
Everyone's invited!

See I can use caps!

abby -- Mercenary of the Knight
albrecht@c.......   Down the hall  lThe first Merc Knightie
eponymous2@a.......       Turn right!    lDDEB3, Duchovniks, NLEB, and more
                    http://www-scf.usc.edu/~albrecht

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:44:57 PST
From:    Sherri Lynn Godsey <us011164@p.......>
Subject: Re: CHARITY: Update Jan. 4

Lisa!  Wow!  $1767.00?  I say.... lets go for an even $2,000!  I'm willing to
send a "little" bit more.  What do the rest of you say?

SLG
-----------------------------------------------------
Name: Sherri Lynn Godsey, Founding Member SFKS
E-mail: us011164@p.......
"Think where man's glory most begins and ends, And say
my glory was I had such friends" in Forever Knight...
-----------------------------------------------------

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:54:20 -0500
From:    A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: some ramblings

Hey all,
after slogging thru 3 days worth of mail I have some comments.
If We Pull This Off:
 I promise I will faithfully continue work on my mammoth novel and continue
to publish TV Times for another year without berating myself with doubts
about my publishing abilites.
As for putting an ad for FK in a newspaper, if you got the money put one in
Variety -TPTB will see that!!!
Thanks for posting the new eps list. #317 was not listed. Yes there is a #17
according to one of my sources. AND FK is due back to production on Monday
Jan. 8th. I have no other info about it -yet.
I am contacting a columnist for my local paper, the "Register-Guard" here in
Eugene about doing a story on the campaign to save FK including the charity
drive. Stay tuned.
AMc
"We"re the show that literally never dies" James Parriott

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 22:57:48 -0500
From:    vicki jean merriman <vmerrima@i.......>
Subject: Re: AOL/Forever Knight connection

On Wed, 27 Dec 1995, Rae Montor wrote:

> Apache (Laura V. Fargas, Esq.) wrote a great letter to Steve Case at AOL! I
> hope everybody on AOL uses it as a model, and writes to him, too. *That*
> should get their attention!!!

I just read the response from Mr. Case's office and it sounded like a
form letter "thanks, but don't call us; we'll call you" sort of thing.
Perhaps quantity will help.

|----
Vicki Merriman - vmerrima@i.......

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:07:46 -0500
From:    Deanna Dudney <Cymraes@a.......>
Subject: Re: Some promises...

In a message dated 96-01-04 19:53:35 EST, Lillian wrote::

>I think that those who promised to watch USA shows have an out.  I mean, USA
>hasn't backed down, right?  Do we want to support them?  Do we actually want
>to support shows like Campus Cops?  ::gag::
>
>
Actually, I agree with this and think that in view of the present
circumstances, those of us that vowed to watch hideous shows on USA should
substitute with

a) a hideous show that's on their syndie station that carries FK or
b) don't watch *anything* on USA

However, I am willing to go along with the general consensus, and stick to
the original vow (don't want to incur the Wrath of Schanke's Ghost!).

And yes, I bought a LARGE can of Spam (although my kids won't eat it, so it
looks like I have to eat the whole thing), and I am now a Happy Perkulator.

And by the way, my sister (also a huge FK fan, primarily a Knightie and
Cousin) actually LIKES Tracy.  Really.  I'm not kidding.  In fact, she wanted
me to tell the list to quit with all the Tracy-bashing!  (I told her we're
all Perkulators now!)  Now everyone is sitting down, right?  She likes Spam,
too!

YKYBWTMFK when... you hear a Nickolodeon commercial advertising their area on
AOL...  Keyword:  Nick  and you wonder what you'll REALLY find there (and
can't wait to find out!).

^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ^v^
Deanna
Forever Knightie and Perkulator ;)

He was a vampire homicide cop, bent on atonement.  We are his followers,
sworn to believe in:  Truth, Justice, The end not justifying the means, Cool
Caddies(regardless of color), Shots of Ger without a shirt...We are
KNIGHTIES!!

Knighties, you gotta love 'em--they can't believe Nick <won't> save the day.
  --Susan M. Garrett

------------------------------

Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:08:27 -0500
From:    Jamie Melody Randell <immajer@p.......>
Subject: Re: PROMISES ARE MADE TO BE KEPT!

On Jan 04, 1996 22:39:00, 'Maryann Jorgensen <majorge@i.......>' wrote:


>Uh...guy... I think we all had better engage *humor* circuits<VVBG>

This is easy for you to say.  YOU don't have to give up smoking. <growl,
snarl>

The Webgoddess is now officially GROUCHY.  Happy, yes, deliriously
tremendously thrilled to the very roots of my toenails... but GROUCHY.

Anyone who's ever undergone nicotine deprivation will understand.

I love you all.  Apologies in advance for my upcoming period of withdrawal.


--
-----<faith!>-----
Jamie M.R. --The Illustrated Cousin -- Mercenary
Save Forever Knight! --
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html

*** WAR #6: THIS TIME, IT'S PERSONAL ***
Kicking the Nicotine Habit for Forever Knight!
"I hope you'll pardon us if we continue to crusade." -- Jaye the Red

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Date:    Thu, 4 Jan 1996 23:26:52 -0500
From:    FKActivity List <FKActivity@a.......>
Subject: ACTIVITY:CONVENTIONS/PARTIES/PLEAS/PUBLICATIONS

A few items have been added to the list.  If you have event/plea/convention,
etc. that you'd like posted, please contact me at FKActivity@a........   Also,
if the status of any of these events change, or you'd like it removed, please
contact FKActivity@a.......

Thanks
*****************************************************************************
CONVENTIONS
January 6 - 7 - Annual FANGORIA convention - Pennsylvania Hotel
    This convention needs an FK representative there, if you are attending
    and can help contact Laurie Fenster <lucienlc@i.......>

January 12 - 14 - ARISIA - Boston Park Plaza Hotel & Towers
       for further information about FK events at ARISA or if you're planning
on
       attending, contact Lynne Levine <llevine@m.......>

January 22 - 25 - NATPE - National Association of Television Executives
      Sands Expo Center/Mirage
      (Plans are to hand out plastic bags that say Renew Forever Knight
       on January 24th, Kay K. is scheduled to receive an award at this
       convention on the same day)
      "They would prefer another volunteer to help hand out bags, please
       contact Diane Echelbarger gryphon@e....... if you can help.

March 29-31 - Prisoners of the (K)night convention - Toronto, Ontario, Canada
      for information contact, ltdark@e....... or potk@i.......
******************************************************************************

PARTIES
Allison Percy <percy91@w.......> Philadelphia - January 6th
Cherri Munoz <cdmunoz@e.......> LA, Cal. area - January 13th
Laura Waskey <KHHK71A@p.......> VA/DC/MD area - January 13th
Meredith E. Pickering <Plan2@a.......> RI/MA/CT area - January 20th
Ping  <cpl@b.......>  Boston area - January 20th
******************************************************************************
*********
BLOOD DRIVE/PARTY
(This has changed from January 13th to a tentative January 20th)
January 20, 1996 - A blood drive is tentatively scheduled for this day,
plenty of donors
    are needed <g>  for further information contact Laura Fargas
 <lf@c.......>
    (If this does come together, there may be CNN Headline News coverage)
******************************************************************************
*********
LOOKING FOR HELP..

From: Diane Echelbarger - <gryphon@e.......>
LOS VEGAS AREA - NATPE - January 24th
   "We will be handing out the bags 1/24, to match Kay's award date.
     Have 5 volunteers, would prefer 6.  Hotel space has been arranged. "

From: Joanne Cecco - <yu106869@y.......>
TORONTO AREA
Is looking for volunteers to help organize/participate in a food/clothing or
blood drive.

From: Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
NYC AREA
A Blood Drive in NYC.  Volunteers will be needed to hand out flyers etc.

From: Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
TEXAS AREA (covers a lot of territory)
Bike Ride for PAF - scheduled for this summer
  "I was thinking they maybe we can get something set up for pledges
   against miles ridden in the "Hotter Than Hell Hundred" this is in
   Wichita Falls in August." - Don Durham
******************************************************************************
***********
PUBLICATIONS
A McLaughlin <tvbacktalk@a.......>  Television Times February Issue
   "devoting the February issue to Forever Knight...Hopefully, I will have an

    interview with Nigel Bennett and/or find out what really is going on with

    TPTB."
    1-time issue - $1.00

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