FORKNI-L
Digest - 3 Jan 1996
Wed, 3 Jan 1996
There are 27 messages totalling 696 lines in this issue.
Topics of the day:
1. USA Ratings (3)
2. If we pull this off... (3)
3. FK Resolutions (2)
4. Help quick! (4)
5. Arisia attendance
6. letter count
7. Linda's Resolution/the SOS FAQ
8. SFK Resolutions: My Offer
9. California Bound?
10. YNYBW.. and YKYBRTMSOS
11. KNXV 15--Phoenix
12. YKYB . . or Nick invading minds
13. FW: Climb Any Mountain, Exploit Any Angle
14. it's official
15. IMPORTANT _RESPONSE FROM NEWSPAPER REPORTER
16. Doing my part!!
17. Hunters, FK cancellation & resolutions
18. FORKNI-L Digest - 3 Jan 1996 - Special issue
19. 1st & 2nd Season Tapes
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:12:18 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: USA Ratings
If we can run down all the media sources that pick up this news
about USA's ratings, we should *immediately* get in touch with the authors
of those stories in each of our local/quasi local papers with this kind
of pitch:
"Dear Reporter: Saw your piece, and here's a followup story: USA
is being heavily lobbied by fans to save one of its prime time shows right
now, a la the now world famous effort to save Star Trek."
Send along the press releases, and include a reference to the Web
page.
If we get lucky, this could mean more publicity. It's also
another hook for CNN/Hnn to hang a story on: successful cable network,
etc...
Can anyone else do the Washington Post contact? If not I will.
Laura
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:25:21 -0500
From: Sandra Gray <TMP_HARKINS@d.......>
Subject: Re: USA Ratings
Curiosity: I wonder what USA's ratings were *before* they started
airing their newer schedule (was there an article this time last year
about their ratings?). It might be worth it to try to find out. An
improvement over previously reported ratings from last year would work
in our favor (of course, not much change or a *drop* in network ratings
wouldn't help our cause).
--Sandra Gray, forever Knightie
--tmp_harkins@d.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:28:45 -0500
From: Allison Percy <percy91@w.......>
Subject: If we pull this off...
My "if we pull this off" resolution:
I will join the to-be-formed Lisa Ryder Fan Club and wear a *button* that
says "OK, now I'm Perky!" (I firmly stand by my Knightie-hood, though,
and will put on my GWD Fan Club button, too!)
I will make up a bicycle jersey that says "Forever Knight" on the back and
"Lisa Ryder's Riders" on the front (she *is* a cyclist, you know) and ride
my bike from Philadelphia to Toronto to raise money for the Pediatric AIDS
Foundation. (Pledges now being accepted.... :) This tour will end in the
parking lot behind Nick's loft, which might surprise the guys who work in
the collision/auto body shop that is actually in Nick's garage. I fully
expect the Toronto Tour Group to be there at the finish cheering me on!
And I will find some way to watch a bit of the filming of a *new* episode
of Forever Knight. Then I can die happy (sometime in the distant future,
I hope).
Well, I'm off to the convenience store to buy some SPAM LITE for dinner!
--
Allison Percy, Knightie percy91@w.......
"Never give up. Never. Never. Never. Never." Winston Churchill
"We're the show that literally never dies." James Parriott
--
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:53:10 EST
From: LAURA B WASKEY <KHHK71A@p.......>
Subject: FK Resolutions
Pardon me while I crawl out of bed for this (I have the flu thanks to my 3
lovely nieces! :)
If Forever Knight is saved, I will........(gasp) yes, I will eat a...
..........McDonald's Big MAC !!!< noises of stomach churning>
(And believe me that is asking a lot coming from a vegetarian who hasn't
eaten red meat in nearly six years! But, I will do this only once and only
if we save FK!) Look out McDonald's.....
Cousin Laura (the Crazy)
KHHK71A@p.......
"USA executives are for breakfast, Nicholas."-LaCroix and moi
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:54:35 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Help quick!
Channel 12 (they don't show FK) is here doing a story on Internet
Addicts. I tried asking him if he'd be interested in information about
what we are doing but I couldn't convince him good enough.
Any suggestions while he is here that I might be able to use?
Marg Rothschild
knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
***** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight*****
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Or write to: margr@i.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:51:13 -0500
From: David Gary Friedman <dgf@u.......>
Subject: Re: Arisia attendance
Lynne,
I think I read a post wrong, but did someone say Arisia is
in the Boston Park Plaza Hotel? HRm... My office is upstairs in
a teeny tiny computer startup company. Could I bother you with
the details so I can escape the tyranny of the computers? Plus,
how can I help out at the Save fk table and are there still openings?
Hoping I'm better late than never,
-David Friedman (dgf@u.......)
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:54:57 -0600
From: Linda Pulis <l.pulis@m.......>
Subject: Re: If we pull this off...
At 12:05 PM 1/3/96 -0600, Jennifer Mingee wrote:
>I...uh...will learn the Texas A&M fight song... AND SING IT IN PUBLIC AT
>THE NEXT TEXAS AREA FK PARTY.
>Gag!!!
Oh, Jennifer, you would! GAG. GAG! GAG! GAG! But if you can do it, so
can I. (Gag.) This is coming from a University of Texas grad who by the
next Texas Area FK Party will be back at UT for her MLIS. (Yes, add another
librarian-wanna-be to the FK roster.)
AND, I'll also eat Spam. That won't be half as bad as singing the Aggie
fight song!
Cousin Linda
l.pulis@m.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:29:09 -0330
From: Ngaire Genge <ngenge@n.......>
Subject: Re: FK Resolutions
Hi,
Laura, about that Big Mac / Vegetarian thing... Don't worry, for what
actual meat there is in a Big Mac, you'll never notice it.
Cheers,
Ngaire
P.S. You can get a Soy-Mac at some locations.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:06:18 -0500
From: Bea Quindlen <OCaoin@a.......>
Subject: letter count
If you have sent correspondence of any type to save FK e-mail me with a count
so we can see how we're doing! Please specify who you sent to, that is, do
not say TPTB. Using the list below as a guide would be a big help. Totals
will be posted daily.
thank you.
OCaoin@a.......
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Time: 2:00 pm Wed. Jan 3, 1996
35 lottery tickets
317 Letters so far to:
56 Kay Koplovitz USA
60 Jon Feltheimer TriStar/Columbia
35 Ron Perth USA
28 Bonnie Hammer USA
6 Paragon
1 Sony (location unspecified)
11 TriStar/Columbia
2 James Parriot
6 USA - NY
2 USA - LA
3 FOX
20 Local Syndicators
84 Sponsors
3 Cast/Crew
5 FAXES: 2 each Kay K. & USA, 1 Columbia/TriStar
22 E-MAILS:
8 USA
6 SONY
2 Columbia/TriStar
1 each Fred Mollin & Nigel Bennett
4 James Parriot
4 Telegrams
4 People have indicated they donated to charity as well.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:08:17 -0500
From: Nancy McCaskey <mccaskn@p.......>
Subject: Linda's Resolution/the SOS FAQ
On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Linda Pulis wrote:
> Oh, Jennifer, you would! GAG. GAG! GAG! GAG! But if you can do it, so
> can I. (Gag.) This is coming from a University of Texas grad who by the
> AND, I'll also eat Spam. That won't be half as bad as singing the Aggie
> fight song!
Why not try both at the same time (evil grin)?
========================================================================
Also, has anyone though of taking the SOS FAQ and posting it to LOCAL
bulletin boards and FreeNets in the appropriate message areas? I've
already called one board and put the FAQ on Tallahassee FreeNet's Science
Fiction and Television areas.
Could we get the word out on the non-Internet nets (FidoNet, RoseNet,
etc)? How about putting up a bulletin on vampire-themed MU*s (if the
Wizards allow it)? Ideas, anyone?
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:20:08 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: Re: Help quick!
Ok. Here's what I did. I tried very very very hard. I don't know if I had
any affect. After he explained to one of the lab assistants about what is
an "internet addict" - someone who's life has been really changed by
using the internet so much, I explained to him that many of you have
stayed up over night working hard on our SaveForeverKnight campaign on
the internet. And then I told him how much money we raised in 4 days for
Pediatric Aids Foundation. Then he was impressed. His eyes lit up and said
"Wow, that's great!" I told him that AOL increased their number of ads on
USA probably because of us too.
(Not exactly those words but very very positive)
I'll have to let you know if any of what I told him gets used. I'm not sure
when it will air. Maybe tonite. He wouldn't take the press release, not even
to hand deliver it to the station. Sorry.
Like I said, I tried. I think part of the problem is he's from a
competing station.
Feeling a bit bummed,
Marg Rothschild
knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
***** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight*****
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Or write to: margr@i.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:25:03 CST
From: "Cynthia J. Hoffman" <choff@v.......>
Subject: Re: Help quick!
Actually, it sounds more like the guy was interested in BAD PRESS for the
internet, you know. And your comments about the charity surprised him...
Maybe just as well that he wouldn't take the release...
Cynthia
Cynthia Hoffman
choff@v.......
Forever Knight is in trouble; get more information at
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:29:05 -0500
From: patrick kortner aiex <paiex@i.......>
Subject: SFK Resolutions: My Offer
Gang:
Wow. A lot of people are giving up things that are obviously near and
dear to them. Or, resuming . . . activities . . . that they had left off
(hi, Laura!).
I'm considering what I can do. Jamie, I'll be right there with
you. If FK is saved, I'll quit smoking. Ugh. I've done it now. Now, TPTB
will save the show, *just* to hold me to my promise. :)
I'll also promise to not use the term "Br*ck" when referring to Nick,
and I'll be nicer to Tracy and the Perkulator. :)
Pat -- the Lone Nanette
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:34:24 -0500
From: Ida Egenberger <MiklosEgen@a.......>
Subject: Re: California Bound?
>
>WHAT! I have to go nomail for the weekend and someone puts out info that
>GWD is moving to California? Could someone please private email the
>original post. Does this mean he is moving there to get more visibility
>and change his career focus? and when is this event taking place?
>
>
Could that same person email me with the post as well? Thanks.
Ida Egenberger
MiklosEgen@a.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:40:39 CST
From: Don Durham <don.durham@d.......>
Subject: YNYBW.. and YKYBRTMSOS
YNYBW.. and YKYBRTMSOS when
A couple of weeks ago my opponent in racquetball responded "uncle"
to my fifth ace in a row. My mind said "Dean, I did know you were a
cousin.", but my mouth kept quiet.
Now, after reading several megs of SOS posts, I am becoming obsessed
with seeing Uncle and Nick on the court. (Of course Uncle will
thrash him -- "Old age and treachery will always overcome youth and
skill.") Today I kept noticing what a great game this would be for
vampires. All the nice lighting, the dark red markings on the
court, the indoor location, the occaisional head wound from the
racquet...
I think FK is finally invading my last sanctuary...
Don, Cousin
don.durham@d.......
Woody: "You're flying!"
Buzz: "This isn't flying. This is falling with style!"
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:46:50 -0700
From: Raissa Devereux <raissa@i.......>
Subject: KNXV 15--Phoenix
To all listmembers in Arizona who get the above station (KNXV 15). This
ABC affiliate which shows FK is online through AOL. Keyword TV. It's
under the local affiliates section- ABC. When you get to the KNXV
section, there is a folder entitled "Chit-Chat with us!." I have already
posted there under "Forever Knight." I said FK is my fav. show, that I
was looking forward to new eps, and that I hoped they maintained their
syndie deal with Tri-Star in the future. I did not specifically mention
the cancellation, however, because I did not know what they knew yet.
Anyone who has AOL and who gets this station, please feel free to reply
to my message and add any info that may help.
Raissa Devereux
raissa@imap2.asu8-~xh
}Q$
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:55:55 -0500
From: Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: Help quick!
Marg,
Ya gone went an' done good! :) Be proud!
The night is only as dark as the thought of no "FOREVER KNIGHT"
The "Forever Knight" show may be cancelled,we need your help!.
Write to: Kay Koplovitz Chief Exec Officer & President USA Network
0000 Xxx xx xxx Xxxxxxxx XX XX 00000**VISIT the FK Homepage for more help.
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or E-mail me.
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:54:08 -0700
From: Marg Rothschild <marg.r@a.......>
Subject: YKYB . . or Nick invading minds
Either from watching too much FK or ?
Nick invaded my mom's mind the other night. She told me that she dreamt
my brother was iin the hospital and Nick was saving someone. She was very
vague about it (couldn't remember everything or didn't want to tell me?)
but she told me I can't discuss anything about Nick with her for a few
days because he has invaded her mind. She said she knows it was a funny
dream though because she woke up laughing.
As Uncle would say, "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!"
Dreaming of the Knight (heavy sigh from me)
Marg Rothschild
knightie/cousin/FFFROGie
***** Help Save/Revive Forever Knight*****
more info: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
Or write to: margr@i.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:57:59 +0100
From: "Kennedy, Jean" <jkennedy@m.......>
Subject: FW: Climb Any Mountain, Exploit Any Angle
Forwarding from Leslie! . . .
________________________________________________________
>From: Remencus, Leslie on Wed, Jan 3, 1996 2:56 PM
Subject: Climb Any Mountain, Exploit Any Angle
To: Kennedy, Jean
Yes, exploit any angle....
I just finished another letter to Kay K. congratulating her on USA's ratings.
(Yes, it was a shameful display of brownnosing.) <g> I also told her that FK
was definitely a top choice in my household. Blah, Blah, Blah.... Hey, we've
got to use everything we've got. Tell her keeping FK is a savvy move. Appeal
to her business sense.
Finally, Susan Clark posted about Mr. Showbiz....
E-mail them! Definitely! I'm contacting the media and sending the press
releases with my letters. Contact USA Today, The Washington Post, The New York
Times, local papers, human interest columnists, everybody. We need lots of
publicity.
Leslie
Leslie Remencus *Natpack*
"I knew the risks when I signed on." -- Natalie, BMV
Laremy@c....... or Lremencus@a.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:08:23 EST
From: MS ALICE T RIEHL <BVPG41A@p.......>
Subject: USA Ratings
Sandra,
The rating was the same as last year's prime time rating. However, it
represented approximately 100,000 more viewers.
Alice
BVPG41A@p.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:30:31 -0500
From: A McLaughlin <Iremi@a.......>
Subject: it's official
Hey all,
I got the news from SSA today that the show is officially cancelled on USA.
BUT it is still in syndication and the they are scheduled to resume shooting
on monday the 8th with only 5 more episodes to go.
The tactic then was to get fans to bombard the syndicated stations so there
will be attention for the show at NAPTE. So call your local station and
strongly suggest they pick it up . Personally I feel this is the end, alas.
GWD (in the Toronto Star) is already planning to move to CA. He will hate
it, I guarantee it, but hey he's got to find that out for himself.
Hey it was nice while it lasted. C'est la vie.
AMc
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:57:13 -0500
From: Deanna Dudney <Cymraes@a.......>
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT _RESPONSE FROM NEWSPAPER REPORTER
In a message dated 96-01-02 21:15:47 EST, Sandra Gray:
>I realize trying to save FK from cancellation is an important campaign
>for us right now, but I would urge that, unless a message has a short
>time frame for response, that people wait at least 24 hours to see if
>their original message hits the list.
You mean I'm not the only one receiving messages 2, 3 or 4 times? I actually
thought it was some problem I was having with my CompuServe software (since
no one else had mentioned this problem), so I switched back to AOL --- but
it's still happening.
I good-naturedly second the motion!
Deanna Dudney
cymraes@a.......
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:59:25 -0500
From: Deanna Dudney <Cymraes@a.......>
Subject: Re: If we pull this off...
>>If we pull this off, I will:
>
>
Make my kids eat Spam... ok, ok, I'll eat some, too.
AND I will force myself to watch "Silk Stalkings" (yuk!) (I was going to say
USA's Tuesday night fights, but I think that's going just a bit too far...)
AND.... (drum roll) I'll join the Perkulators, too (although I like
"Buttoneers" better). (This was certainly the most difficult thing to do for
a dedicated Knightie with definite Cousinly tendencies.)
Deanna
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:37:21 -0330
From: Dark Knight <phurley@b.......>
Subject: Doing my part!!
Okay guys,
I've done what I can from my isolated habitat. I have mailed
everybody we have associated FK with, and who may be able to help us save
the show. Today I also passed out the press releases to 3 radio stations
and one newspaper, and emailed the releases to the two news broadcasts
that we have here.
I have to call the person I talked to at the paper tomorrow
morning, but either way they said they would print something. Also two of
the radio stations I talked to brought it right down to the news room,
but I don't listen to the radio that often, so I don't know what they
actually said about it.
There is also a blood drive scheduled here for mid-January, so I
will try and get some friends to come with me and donate for FK!!
Giving up my blood will be my sacrifice for the new year, as I
have NEVER donated, and am not exactly looking forward to it!!
Paula
Knightie/
Nick&NatPacker/
And likes LaCroix(but I'm not a cousin)
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:10:49 -0400
From: "L.D. Steele" <h36a@u.......>
Subject: Hunters, FK cancellation & resolutions
I thought I'd send in a post with a little NON - SOS news. :)
ATV in New Brunswick continues to rerun the first season of Forever
Knight. Hunters was on Monday - one of my favourite shows. That was the
one where I started to <really> like Janette. Of course her hair looks
horrible, but... there was just something about her.
That was also where Schanke started to become more 3-D. For all the people
who have strongly negative feelings towards Tracy Vetter -- Schanke wasn't
written well at first either. He was the target of everyone's jokes, and
was <not> represented as a particularly smart individual.
Unfortunately for us, we may <not> have two seasons of Tracy for us to
get used to her and for the writers to get a better feel of her
character. In the end, it's how she's written in fanfic that will
determine how she's viewed.
Tracy Vetter: how shall we dissect thee? <g> I've explained my view of
the character to a few people (Hi Jane!) but it keeps changing on me. I
do remain convinced that the major stumbling block is the writer's
inability to change the status quo started at the beginning of the
season. Basically (if we win, and they're able to finish the season)... I
want Tracy to <figure it out>! Yes!
Of course my other thought would be for Nick to become human, Tracy to
figure out he was a vampire, and then be totally confused. he he he. :)
Is that enough non-sos stuff? <g>
FK Cancellation: I'm cheering for everyone on this list. All the hard
work that's been done. I'm also sending out my leters tomorrow. Hopefully
it's better late than never. I'm still not sure whether it was good or
bad not to get "the news" until after returning from X-mas vacation.
Keep up the good work.
Resolution: I'll throw in my contribution. If we win, and get the last 6
episodes... No chocolate until the March convention (a serious committment
for a chocoholic) AND I will hand in every single paper due this term at
school ON TIME!!! No extensions!
Did i just type that? %)
Dawn
L.D. Steele
h36a@u....... or aa300@f.......
Optimist/Pragmatist/Pessimist (depending on time of day)
^^^^^^^^
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:18:20 -0500
From: John Ewan <jwe@m.......>
Subject: Re: FORKNI-L Digest - 3 Jan 1996 - Special issue
SOS Resolutions are flying fast....
Muldy Sculler - Barbara, is giving up sex <!> Not *THAT*! Apache/Laura has
a much better notion! Take *up* sex!! It has the potential to make the
next few FK parties more fun than the living should be allowed to have! <G>
Sandy, "Silk Stalkings" might be, eh... ok. Lisa Anne, I like Barbara's
idea better than having you watching "Campus Cops". <"This is your brain.
This is your brain on "Campus Cops". *Crumble/Decay* Get the picture?"> <g>
I can't face up to my fears; only thing I am seriously afraid of is heights.
<Go ahead, send me a tall building! <G>> Being on an island, the highest
point of which is 16 feet above sea level... kinda tough, that one.
I like the concept of these real healthy longterm pledges so I'll jump in
here and say I'll begin walking to/from work; being in Key West, this is
doable more often than not throughout the year. Since regular exercise will
help, I'll also pledge to lose 20 pounds over the next 6 months. Kinda
realistic, methinks and likely to be kept off. I'm *real* impressed with
Susan, 32 lbs gone, *GO* girl!
I'm available for moral support for Jamie, Torrey and Jill and also
available for immoral support for Laura! <ROFL!> ...and you thought only
TPTB could be smarmy! <g> The Ratpack is always there, lurkin' in the corners!
John Ewan, jwe@m....... *Ratpack*Natpack*Raven*NotABattery!*Cuzzin, just
becuz* The "Forever Knight" show is being cancelled; to help save it, email
me or check this URL and join in!
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html
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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:55:18 -0500
From: Tammy Stephanie Davis <tsd@u.......>
Subject: 1st & 2nd Season Tapes
I am very interested in obtaining 1st (Canadian version) &
2nd season of FK. Will pay tapes & postage. Please e-mail
if you're interested.
tsd@u.......
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