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Digest - 1 Jan 1996 - Special issue

Mon, 1 Jan 1996

There are 31 messages totalling 1006 lines in this issue.

Topics in this special issue:

  1. I've Joined Central Strat; off ads
  2. the "Who's Doing What" list
  3. Ontario Film Investment Program? YNYD... (3)
  4. ACTIVITY:  <- new topic & SNAIL (2)
  5. thanks for postcard help
  6. PROFOUND APOLOGIES -- TO ALL MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS POST (2)
  7. Blood Drive
  8. Coordination clarification
  9. Koplovitz Quote (3)
 10. Thoroughly confused by article (2)
 11. Fwd: TV POLL OF BEST SHOWS _LETS FILL IT OUT PLEASE READ
 12. Wishing us luck
 13. Faxing USA
 14. Toronto Star article
 15. ACTIVITY - Usenet
 16. Confirmation from Perth
 17. My Small Part
 18. ACTIVITY: <- new topic & SNAIL
 19. Did CTV cancel FK?
 20. Movie Sparkles (fwd)
 21. FK/V:TES crossover? //usenet bbs (fwd)
 22. Can Someone Pick Up....? (2)
 23. ObSOSsion, by FK

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:27:44 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: I've Joined Central Strat; off ads

Dear Laura --

I woke up at 6 this AM, read the mail I had downloaded but not read last
night, and sent off a small portion of this morning's mail. Then I
downloaded everything since last night. Which may explain some
out-of-apparent-sequence posts from me (which I hope don't make your life
more difficult). :7

>        Laurie CF has happily agreed to my offer to assist with
>coordination.

Good. Now that I've read *her* post, the facts that you offered and she
accepted are excellent news.

> I've e'd Deb that I can take over the who's-doing-what
>job; haven't officially heard from her that I'm the one getting it, but
>it seems like a logical part of central strategy.

Does indeed. And far less ego involved. (Long story -- just note that what
I said this AM re ego v pain was the result of my giving up on a lot of
private, calm, placating stuff that apparently had no effect whatsoever.)

>        This means I'm signing off doing ad campaign stuff, which I think
>Lillian and Rae are doing better than I would anyway.

I'm writing when someone asks me to. Sometimes anyway. 'Sfar as I know, the
real PR/Advertising people are

Print Media Press Coordinator, Cynthia Hoffman <choff@v.......>
        (also Headline News Contact)
Public Relations Coordinator, June Williams <cousin@w.......>
Writer/Graphics Coordinator, Lisa Reeves <ad483@d.......>

Lillian is wonderful, of course. Just didn't know she was working on this
too.  ;)

>        This means I will read every single post every day

Ooh. I have some home-made chicken soup in zip-locks in the freezer: tell
me when you want them airshipped.

>I will also attempt to respond to queries for addresses, etc., by
>bouncing the relevant material to the requester.

Cool. Less work for the rest of us. (Goody for us. Sanitarium for you.
Sympathies. Don't know an emoticon for mixed emotions.)

>        Another thing I will do, and have been doing privately anyway, is
>communicate either privately or on-list with people who mention
>potentially useful things.  Earlier today, for example, I e'd the person
>who mentioned seeing Leslie Remencus and the Save Due South coverage on
>CTV, asking for details, including the name of the interviewer, in case
>there might be a friend/ inside helper at that network.

Kewl. What I've been doing is forwarding quiet and missable but very useful
posts to June, Lisa, and (first) Lynn or (then) Cynthia. Want a backlist?
(There's some good stuff, and I don't know if you saw it or not.)

>        One last note:  three people have expressed distress on-list
>lately.  Let's all be *real nice* to each other, even when we make
>errors, OK?

Hope this AM's post from me re ego v pain is not a problem in this area.
(Jamie matters to me, and I didn't want her being hurt, and saying so
publicly, to be responded to only with huffiness or a well-meant but
cavalier piece of advice to "chill". And yes, I had written to her with
comfort off-list before the flurry of back-and-forths gave me the
impression that I'd better say some thorough and not-flaming words about it
in public, too.)

Otherwise, note the serious "real niceness" of my response to Sandra Grey
re her remarkable take on the purpose of the Web Elves. (And that was to a
person who had emailed me offlist that my kitchen-sink, Basics-first press
release for the mainstream press was "too wordy" with the "information in
the wrong place" -- and that she was a member of a writers' group, and they
had events and did press releases sometimes, and maybe she should look for
her notes... " [when I did this professionally for 25 years before I
changed careers]. And I was even civil -- if, I admit, fairly cranky --
even in my private response to *that*.)

>        FK is lucky to have us, and we are all lucky to have each other.
>Happy New Year to all.  I'll have my glass raised at 11:59:59.

It was good to meet so many of us in that minute. If a bit *large*. <g>


Many good fortunes with your new s/u/i/c... er... BRAVE endeavor.  ;)


     Rae

     Working to Keep the Knight Forever

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:34:17 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: the "Who's Doing What" list

Dear Tammy --

>Not sure why my name is under statistics coordinator...

First of all, what you're responding to was my response to Deb Martin's
original request for info. (This has gone back and forth lotsa times, and
is now in Apache's hands, as you will see when you're up to date.)

Second, your name was listed with "Nielsen Info" in parentheses after it,
under statistics, because you had posted an excellent list of what a real
demographic company (Nielsen) wants to know about viewers, and because the
person actually doing a statistical survey could use (and, I hope, was
using) that info.

Sorry for confusing you: didn't mean to.

>I had
>volunteered as a PR person for mundane folks to be able to contact.
>If I'm actually supposed to be stats coordinator, could someone tell
>me what I'm supposed to be doing? ;>

I think I had that info somewhere, but hadn't done anything with it. Again:
Apache is now (as of today, I think) Coordinator of *everything* (i.e.,
going overall nuts). She should know this -- please write to her
<lf@c.......> and tell her. THANKS.  (And thanks for volunteering,
too.)


     Rae M

     Working to Keep the Knight Forever

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:34:22 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: Ontario Film Investment Program? YNYD...

At 12:04 AM 1/1/96, LORI (aka FRANK J. REGO, JR.) wrote:

>Happy New Year!

And also to you. And to us all.

>Question: Would it be any help to write to the Ontario Film Investment
>Program? I noticed they are on the credits as providing assistance.

You have sharper eyes than I. I think I like this. I look forward to
hearing from someone who knows how this works, and what's going on.

>You know your Dad has heard about FK too much when... you are playing
>Carmina Burana by Carl Orff and ask your Dad if he knows what it is and
>he says,"Is it from Forever Knight?"

Tell him "No, it's Paul Wylie's singles long program from last year." ;)



Letting the world know she's on the skatefans-l list, and then ducking...


     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

     Working to Keep the Knight Forever

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:34:08 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: ACTIVITY:  <- new topic & SNAIL

LG Soward wrote (among other perfectly marvelous things):

>What I'm suggesting and if no one has any objections, is that we
>have an account that people send upcoming or events in planning to...
>I'll use ARISIA as an example.  People may be aware of when it's going be
>but not if there are any FKer's around.  The ACTIVITY topic would list
>ARISIA, the location, and someone that could be contacted for further
>information.
>
>I've already set up an account on AOL for this called FKActivity@a........

I think it's an excellent idea. I presume that you mean that all
activity-related announcement-type posts should go to this address, *in
addition to*, rather than *instead of* the List. (After all, not everyone
has AOL.) Please confirm that I'm correct about that.

Also: again, I'm assuming that this is for "it's gonna happen" posts,
rather than "who wants to do something about this" posts. I feel far less
secure about that aspect. Please explicate your intent, here. Thanks.
(Whatever, it seems fine to me. I'm just confused.)  ;)

>If you all think this is a good idea and would make sense, please let me know.
>If you all have any activities or know of any upcoming events, please e-mail
>FKActivity@a.......
>     (people coordinating NATPE & ARISIA activities, if you could send info,
>it would be appreciated as well)

Post due out from me re ARISIA today (lost a day, tired, New Year, working
on it). <G> Will do.

>If this is a bad idea, please let me know and I'll drive a stake into it and
>put it out of it's misery.

It is alive and beautiful. Nurture it.  %)


     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

     Working to Keep the Knight Forever

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:34:27 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: Re: thanks for postcard help

At 6:05 AM 1/1/96, Lisa Wolters wrote:

>ObSOS:  I posted fliers...

Oh Lord, has it come to this? Now we're ObSOSsing about FK... ;)

<ducking>


     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

     Working to Keep the Knight Forever

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:35:09 -0500
From:    Rae Montor <rmontor@v.......>
Subject: PROFOUND APOLOGIES -- TO ALL MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS POST

Well, I just posted a *very* private note to Apache -- to the List. I tried
to stop the post, but it was too late. I am now posting profound apologies,
most especially to Sanrda Grey -- but I know it won't do any good. Please
just sympathize and forgive.

     Rae M
     rmontor@v.......

     Hanging her head in shame -- but still

     Working to Keep the Knight Forever

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:08:31 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: PROFOUND APOLOGIES -- TO ALL MENTIONED IN PREVIOUS POST

Hi,
    I can not reach Apache privately,but this should go to all anyway.
When this started,I offered my phone number as a contact number for PR
and anything else that was needed for daytime contact. June and Cynthia
have it,I am seeing other posts that others may not think that this has
been done. If anyone needs a contact phone number,please E-mail me and I
will forward it along until someone tells me otherwise. Thanks

The night is only as dark as the thought of no "FOREVER KNIGHT"
The "Forever Knight" show may be cancelled,we need your help!.
Write to: Kay Koplovitz Chief Exec Officer & President USA Network
1230 Ave of the Americas NY NY 10020**VISIT the FK Homepage for more help.
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or E-mail me.

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:13:26 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Blood Drive

NYC Area....


I spoke to June on the phone Saturday night and a date is needed for
the Blood Drive in NYC. One that people in this area feel would be good
for them. After some acceptable dates can be presented to Jekyl and Hydes,
who June has been in contact with and WPLJ radio, who I have been in
contact with,we can proceed. Volunteers will be needed to hand out flyers
etc. E-mail me,thanks.

The night is only as dark as the thought of no "FOREVER KNIGHT"
The "Forever Knight" show may be cancelled,we need your help!.
Write to: Kay Koplovitz Chief Exec Officer & President USA Network
1230 Ave of the Americas NY NY 10020**VISIT the FK Homepage for more help.
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or E-mail me.

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:10:17 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Coordination clarification

On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Rae Montor wrote:

> Apache is now (as of today, I think) Coordinator of *everything* (i.e.,
> going overall nuts). She should know this -- please write to her
> <lf@c.......> and tell her. THANKS.  (And thanks for volunteering,
> too.)>

        Noooooo    I'm the second banana... I'm Agent 99.  I'm Kato...
I'm, uh, Max the Bionic Dog.

        Laurie CF is the Grand Poobah!   But yes, I've joined in her
unending fight against the forces of Chaos, Confusion, Dispersion of
Effort, etc.

        Apache




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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:19:37 -0500
From:    Lynn McAlpine <Chatelyne@a.......>
Subject: Koplovitz Quote

"I'm down love-40 and I dig in."

(quote attributed to Kay Koplovitz)

Sounds like our kind of woman.

Lynn McAlpine
Chatelyne@a.......

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:21:30 -0500
From:    Lynne Ackerman <be028@f.......>
Subject: Thoroughly confused by article

Okay, now I'm thoroughly confused.  Today's Toronto Star newspaper has a
big (half page) article on FK, very laudatory, calling it a "phenom".
I'll post the entire article from my Prodigy account (just using this one
to save time as I want to post this quickly).  Don't know when this was
written - I'll contact the writer tomorrow - but there's no mention of
cancellation and in fact it calls the show "the most popular series in
CBS's Crime Time After Prime Time", "solid time slots".

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
'Hollywood North')!!  E-mail address via Internet is be028@t........

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:19:53 EST
From:    Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Re: Koplovitz Quote

On  1 Jan 96 at 12:19, Lynn McAlpine wrote:

> "I'm down love-40 and I dig in."
>
> (quote attributed to Kay Koplovitz)
>
> Sounds like our kind of woman.

Yes, I keep thinking I'd probably REALLY admire her if I'd learned
about her under other circumstances!

Karen, Knightie and CEO, Heartbreakers, FFFROG (ktobin@t....... or
 KarenT1228@a.......)
Reference Librarian of the Save Forever Knight Campaign
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To find out what you can do to help,
please email me and/or visit:
 http://members.aol.com/CuznJamieMR/SaveForeverKnight
and http://www.execpc.com/~ltdark

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:44:03 -0500
From:    Susan Honig <SUEKENN@a.......>
Subject: Fwd: TV POLL OF BEST SHOWS _LETS FILL IT OUT PLEASE READ

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Forwarded message:
Subj:    TV POLL OF BEST SHOWS _LETS FILL IT OUT PLEASE READ
Date:    96-01-01 12:33:11 EST
From:    SUEKENN
To:      Forknni-l@p.......

Hi

Marvin Kitman of Newsday issued a best show of 1996 poll.

Here are my nominations for the 10 best:

Here is my vote for the worst:

Please include
Name
Home town.

There is a snail mail address where you must include your full address of
Famous Kitman Poll, The Marvin Kitman Show, Newsday 235 Pinelawn Road,
Melville
N.Y.  11747-4250

E Mail

wqky92a@p........
Be sure to include your hometown on all E - Mail votes.

POLL CLOSES ON JAN 14.

He then publish the results. Lets make FOREVER KNIGHT #!. This is our chance
to get some publicity in a large NY newspaper.

SUE
SUEKENN@a.......

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:44:15 EST
From:    Lisa McDavid <D020214@u.......>
Subject: Wishing us luck

I've been away for the holidays, although I do indeed know about the
cancellation (how's that for a Christmas Eve surprise?). As one of the
original conspirators in the first mail campaign, to CBS, I just want
to say how wonderful it is to have all of you working on this and all
this great leadership.

In the words of an old Scots toast, "here's to us! Wha's like us? Damn
few, and they're a' dead." <Because they're vampires, mostly :)>

Cousin Lisa -- "That will be trouble."
Lisa McDavid
mcdavid-lisa@s.......

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:54:03 -0500
From:    Jane Snyder <janes@i.......>
Subject: Re: Faxing USA

At 03:18 AM 1/1/96 -0500, Tammy Pond  [Digest] wrote:

>Might also think about faxing late at night. Not during the work day.
>Just to keep from tying up their line during business hours.

Faxing late at night is not really a better option.  Take it from one poor
secretary, coming in first thing in the morning to a huge pile of unsorted
faxes on every fax machine is not a pleasant thing.  If someone is in a
really bad mood, they might just decide that all the "Save FK" faxes are
junk mail and file them accordingly, or at the very least route them in a
way that will ensure they will take the longest possible time to get to the
addressee.

Jane
janes@i.......
Die Hard ** Immortal Beloved ** Optimists Club ** FFFROGie
Reality is a Crutch for the Unimaginative -- Ben Bova (Death Dream)

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:16:19 -0700
From:    Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Re: Koplovitz Quote

>"I'm down love-40 and I dig in."
>(quote attributed to Kay Koplovitz)
>Sounds like our kind of woman.
>Lynn McAlpine  Chatelyne@a.......

Perhaps I'm still feeling the effects of last night's champagne, but, I
don't get it.

Falcon Storm
satori@m.......
LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 12:18:44 -0700
From:    Samurai Knight <satori@m.......>
Subject: Re: Thoroughly confused by article

With reference to all the newspaper and magazine articles praising the
success of FK, didn't someone say the media had not been informed of the
cancellation, thereby making it easier to reverse the decision?

Or, perhaps, our campaign is becoming more and more popular, and we have
the media on our side doing what they can to save the show.

Falcon Storm
satori@m.......
LONG LIVE THE KNIGHT

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:22:36 EST
From:    MS LYNNE R ACKERMAN <GNBV32C@p.......>
Subject: Toronto Star article

Lost post warning:

>From the Toronto Star newspaper of January 1, 1996:

[BTW, my comments or explanations are in square brackets.]

FINE-TUNING THE FOREVER KNIGHT PHENOM
by Robert Crew, Arts Writer

[Photo of Ger and Cath on the set in the morgue.  Ger is getting his
hair touched up (brushed? combed?).  Various crew members are standing
around.   Underneath the picture it says:  Getting the feel:  This
episode is being shot in a morgue, with Geraint Wyn Davies, left, and
Catherine Disher, with her back to the camera, being prepped by the
production crew.]

Article sub-heading:
On the set of the vampire cop show, its stars talk about the new season.

It's much the same as morgues everywhere - huge, ominous sinks and
counters of stainless steel, tiles of a sickly color, calendars on the
wall, an appointment pad on the desk.

But it's quite a lot warmer than you'd imagine.  More crowded, too -
and with live bodies.

This is the set of Forever Knight, the vampire cop show that has
garnered a fanatical cult following both here and in the U.S.  The
title of this episode is "Hearts of Darkness" and this is the scene in
which Nick and Natalie finally put all the pieces together.

Nick is Nick Knight, the 13th Century vampire turned 20th century cop.
 Natalie is Natalie Lambert, a forensic pathologist and the only
non-vamp aware of Nick's secret.

But the scene is not going too smoothly.  Both Geraint Wyn Davies, who
plays Nick, and Catherine Disher (Natalie) have a little trouble with
awkwardly written speeches that are a tongue-twisting jumble of names.

But the atmosphere on set seems comfortable.  There's some good-
natured joshing between the two stars, with crew and director/
assistant-director types joining in.

The next take is word-perfect.
_____________________

Forever Knight is a phenomenom [sic], a Canadian show that was the
most popular series in CBS's Crime Time After Prime Time.  It was
saved by a mass letter-writing campaign and 26 more episodes were
filmed last fall.  Now it's back again, with solid time slots (BBS
[Canadian network] and USA Network, Mondays at 10 p.m.), some new
characters and 22 new episodes.

Forever Knight happened along just as more and more teenagers were
getting bitten by the Gothic craze and its black clothes, white makeup
and expensive vampire teeth (plastic is definitely not cool).  The
show is also big on the Internet.  [take a bow everyone :)]

"We certainly caught the crest of the wave of something," Wyn Davies remarks.
_______________________

It's a couple of hours later in Nick Knight's spacious, dimly lit den.
 Disher has her feet curled up on a black leather sofa and Wyn Davies
is serving soft drinks.  The "red wine" favored by the Forever
Knight's vampires is not on offer.

Both Wyn Davies and Disher say they have mixed feelings about this
season's cast changes.  They welcome the new blood in the cast - Lisa
Ryder as Nick's new partner, Blu Mankumas [sic] as Nick's boss, Ben
Bass as a Gen. X vampire - but regret the loss of John Kapelos and
Deborah Duchene.

"Politics," says Wyn Davies when asked about the changes.  "Certain
people's tastes are different from others."

The reason, apparently, is to woo a younger, funkier audience.  [And
according to Bea's survey statistics, they've done just that...Ms.
Koplovitz, please take note!]

"John is a huge loss," Wyn Davies says.  "The show was structured
around two wonderful triangles that balanced each other.  There were
myself and the two humans, Catherine and John, and the vampires -
myself, Nigel and Deborah.

"Now, two of those points have been taken away..."

"...and they don't quite know what to fill the void with," Disher
says.  "The new actors are great, but it's all got to do with the
planning and the writing of the show."
___________________

The call sheet for this episode makes interesting reading.

The extras required for the day's shoot:  "Corpses x 3, barmaids x 3,
bartender x 1, belles-dames x 4, brazen ladies x 7, roguish gamblers x
5, Southern gentlemen x 4.

For wardrobe:  "Possible body stockings for corpses.  Negligee.  Urs's
bodice.  Tracy's purse.

And under makeup:  "Bite marks, Lemieux dead.  Bloody tears, Urs
awakens."  "Eyes and fangs" have a special section to themselves.
____________________

One reason the show works is that both Wyn Davies and Disher are
accomplished stage actors.  He starred for eight seasons at the
Stratford and Shaw Festivals; she has worked at most of Toronto's
major theatres, including the Royal Alexandra, Tarragon and Canadian Stage.

The show is not a comedy but "has elements of parody and
tongue-in-cheek humor," Wyn Davies says.  And stage actors, he argues,
know how to play heightened emotions honestly, without an excess of melodrama.

Both also enjoy the trappings that come with a successful TV series.

Wyn Davies, his wife Alana and their two children are moving to
Southern California; he won't say exactly where.

Yes, he tells Disher, who has immediately invited herself to stay, it
has a pool.  And a guest house.

"It's like winning the lottery, let's face it," Disher says.  "You
work at the Tarragon for $300 a week and suddenly there's this."

But it costs more to work as well.  Disher, who had a baby between the
first series and the second, now has to employ a full-time nanny.

"I need a wife," she jokes.  "I want your wife.  I want Alana."

Despite the success, both yearn to get back on stage.

"The trap is that you get used to all of this," says Wyn Davies.  "And
you know that this (Forever Knight) is not exactly the pinnacle.  The
trick is to turn it into something else."

"I do get a bit bored with the part," Disher admits, "and I have
become adept at memorizing techno-speak and forgetting it seven
minutes later.

"Occasionally they give me a bit more.  Usually they make me cry - I
have a boyfriend who turns out to be a serial killer or something."

On the other hand, Wyn Davies is now directing some of the shows and
can bring in friends from the stage.

He directed a swashbuckling episode last season that starred
Stratford's Colm Feore and Shaw's Andrew Gillies.

"It was the best time I've had.  Really good actors from the theatre,
doing something we all like - the campy, panache stuff - on a vampire
cop show on which I was the star and which I was directing.

"I thought:  it doesn't get much better than this."


[BTW, if you want a copy of this article, please e-mail me privately.]

A message from Lynne Ackerman in Toronto (or, as we like to call it,
"Hollywood North"!)    Via Internet:  gnbv32c@p....... (preferred
address) or be028@t.......

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:35:18 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Re: ACTIVITY - Usenet

   I am following the news/usenet groups as requested. If anyone has one
that they want me to keep an eue on please send it to me E-mail. Thanks!

The night is only as dark as the thought of no "FOREVER KNIGHT"
The "Forever Knight" show may be cancelled,we need your help!.
Write to: Kay Koplovitz Chief Exec Officer & President USA Network
1230 Ave of the Americas NY NY 10020**VISIT the FK Homepage for more help.
http://members.aol.com/CuznJamiMR/SaveForeverKnight.html or E-mail me.

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:37:18 EST
From:    Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Re: Ontario Film Investment Program? YNYD...

On  1 Jan 96 at 0:04, FRANK J. REGO, JR. wrote:

> Happy New Year!
> Question: Would it be any help to write to the Ontario Film
> Investment Program? I noticed they are on the credits as providing
> assistance. Maybe they could use copies of our letters at least.

I had tried to find an address for them  and had no luck.  I gave it
another try today. The Ontario Film Investment Program (OFIP) is
administered by the Ontario Film Development Corporation (OFDC). Their
address is

ONTARIO FILM DEVELOPMENT CORP
175 Bloor St E Suite 300
Toronto, Ontario M4W 3R8
Canada


Diane Chabot is chairperson of OFDC
Alexandra Raffe is  CEO  of   OFDC

Hope this is helpful!


Karen, Knightie and Heartbreakers, FFFROG (ktobin@t....... or
 KarenT1228@a.......)
Reference Librarian of the Save Forever Knight Campaign
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To find out what you can do to help, please
 email me
and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamieMR/SaveForeverKnight
and http://www.execpc.com/~ltdark

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 10:42:13 -0800
From:    LG Soward <lgs@i.......>
Subject: Re: ACTIVITY:  <- new topic & SNAIL

Rae Monitor wrote in response to my post:
>I think it's an excellent idea. I presume that you mean that all
>activity-related announcement-type posts should go to this address, *in
>addition to*, rather than *instead of* the List. (After all, not everyone
>has AOL.) Please confirm that I'm correct about that.

What I meant was indeed "instead of".  What I would do would be to then
compile all the upcoming events ect. into a calendar of upcoming activities.
That also would give the people attempting to coordinate things a handle on
what's going on.  That would hopefully prevent people from missing an event
that they might be able to participate in because the announcement got "lost
in the mail".  <g>

>Also: again, I'm assuming that this is for "it's gonna happen" posts,
>rather than "who wants to do something about this" posts. I feel far less
>secure about that aspect. Please explicate your intent, here. Thanks.
>(Whatever, it seems fine to me. I'm just confused.)  ;)

I would be willing to have as part of the activities posting/calendar of
events a section where people could post requests for help.  Such as
"So-and-so is looking for volunteers to help with a blood drive in DC/VA/MD
area.  For information or to volunteer, e-mail XXXX@XXXX.XXX"

If anyone has any better/other ideas, I'd like to know.  I thought of this
because I didn't want people to miss out on something just because the
announcement got "lost in the mail".


Lana G. Soward

LGSoward@a.......
lgs@i.......
"How can I be tired?  I've had enough caffeine to kill a horse!"

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 11:45:21 -0800
From:    Ted Atkinson <llacroix@i.......>
Subject: Re: Confirmation from Perth

>Friday afternoon, 12/23, Perth told me he had made the
>decision to ax the show.  He took personal responsibility, though
>apparently he later said something else to people from the show.

Sounds like either:
He was telling the truth and we should be bombarding him in addition to KK
OR
He was lying so he wouldn't be perceived as the one who aimed our efforts
at KK thus incurring her wrath.  He knew your next question would be "if
you didn't cancel it, who did?".

I've sent both of them a letter anyway.

Cousin Jamie:
I appreciate your efforts, and I think the vast majority of the list feels
the same way.  I don't know who said what off list.  _WE NEED YOU JAMIE_

Ted Atkinson      Cousin
llacroix@i.......

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:52:27 -0500
From:    Marf Shopmyer <aa108460@d.......>
Subject: My Small Part

No sniggering please.

Okay, I am sending off my handwritten letters to Kay and two advertisers
and their lackeys today.  Kay is being cc'd on everything.  Now, I have
to go on NOMAIL or sign off or something because this is my computer
station at work and I can't deal with 100 messages per day.

My fkspoiler will stay on, so if there is some important notice, send it
there.

You guys are doing great.

back to lurking,

marf

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:56:56 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: Re: ACTIVITY: <- new topic & SNAIL

On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, LG Soward wrote:

> Rae Monitor wrote in response to my post:
> >I think it's an excellent idea. I presume that you mean that all
> >activity-related announcement-type posts should go to this address, *in
> >addition to*, rather than *instead of* the List. (After all, not everyone
> >has AOL.) Please confirm that I'm correct about that.
>
> What I meant was indeed "instead of".


        This is a strictly personal post.  I have an AOL account so I can
go to the Monday night chats.  Since AOL charges by the hour, and because
I find it irritating to wait while alleged "art" loads every thirty
seconds, I never use the account for any other purpose.  So I vote for
"in addition to."
        I know we all have mailbox-flood these days, but, imho, there are
other solutions, like setting digest or index, or using the summary that
(isn't is Cynthia Hoffman -- I *should* know this) is compiling daily.
        Anyway, this is what I think so far; maybe when the academic
folks return the volume will become unbearable.      Laura

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:57:27 EST
From:    Karen Tobin <ktobin@t.......>
Subject: Re: Ontario Film Investment Program? YNYD...

Oh! I forget to say that the OFDC and OFIP took a BIG budget hit
toward the end of 1995. They may not be in any position to be
helpful.

Karen, Knightie and Heartbreakers, FFFROG (ktobin@t....... or
 KarenT1228@a.......)
Reference Librarian of the Save Forever Knight Campaign
Forever Knight has been cancelled. To find out what you can do to help, please
 email me
and/or visit: http://members.aol.com/CuznJamieMR/SaveForeverKnight
and http://www.execpc.com/~ltdark

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:03:53 -0500
From:    Connie Louie <yu117287@y.......>
Subject: Did CTV cancel FK?

Hi everyone...

This is just a quick question for all the Canadians out there.  My CTV
affiliate (CFTO in Toronto) doesn't seem to be showing FK anymore.
According to my TV guide, Melrose Place is replacing it <gag, gag>.
Thank god I can still see FK on by ABC affiliate in Buffalo <g>!

Anyways...I'm wandering.  The question is...what about the other CTV
stations out there?  Are they still airing FK or did they just cancel (?)
it in my area?

Just curious.

Connie
yu117287@y.......

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:20:36 -0500
From:    Annmarie McKee-Fitzgerald <mickey@c.......>
Subject: Movie Sparkles (fwd)

Just in case this wasn't posted already...

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: 28 Dec 1995 19:48:53 GMT
From: ComWave Publishing <triadc@c.......>
Newgroups: alt.tv.forever-knight
Subject: Movie Sparkles

I know this is a little off topic, but I seem to remember someone mentioning
here, that this is a movie with Deborah Duchene in it, and I noticed that
it is playing next week in Canada.  January 2nd Bravo channel 9pm.  Don't
know if you get Bravo in the States, but maybe it is playing simultaneously
on one of your channels.  I'm setting my VCR.

Gaea

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:27:46 -0500
From:    Apache <lf@c.......>
Subject: FK/V:TES crossover? //usenet bbs (fwd)

        Dear folks,

        1.  Following is something I just noticed on the FK bbs on Usenet.
As a Vaquera, my heart is warmed, not to say inflamed -- and I don't even
know what this Vampire [game?] is [someone e me privately on this?].

        This is a perfect example of what we need to tell Kaplovitz, et
al. -- a cult show *spreads.*   This copycat game character is based on a
character that is only thirteen weeks old! (give or take 491 years).

        2. A quick suggestion:  listmembers who are coordinating local
efforts of various kinds should post to the Usenet bbs to find non-list
persons  (the bbs was how I found the lists).  For example, Annemarie
has already posted here today looking for NYC blood drive
volunteers/participants.  That could go to Usenet.

        If you don't have usenet access, get a friend to do it! (and if
that doesn't work, get *me* to do it.)

        Likewise, as we search for cons that might welcome our efforts,
we might post on the bbs looking for people from that area who could be
roped in to help.  This might even work for NATPE bag distributors.
        There is also an alt.fandom.cons bbs, I've heard, though I
haven't yet checked it out.  Another place we could post.




---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 13:26:03 -0500
From: Apache <lf@c.......>
To: lf@c.......
Newgroups: alt.tv.forever-knight
Subject: (fwd) FK/V:TES crossover?


As a player of Vampire (nee Jyhad), I was quite pleased to see in the set a
vampire named "Javier Montoya".  He even looks to me like Ben Bass.

--Red


CFL-News coordinator for the San Antonio Texans.
Shadowfist Stunt Team Member
---
redadept@c......., Witch, Ferret-lover, Raven, Goth, Toreador
  "Clinging to his paganism like lichen to a stone." Fnord
---

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:04:21 -0330
From:    Ngaire Genge <ngenge@n.......>
Subject: Can Someone Pick Up....?

Hi,

For some reason, Sony's pages no longer like SlipKnot *sigh*, so I'm
looking for someone to pick up some FK postcards.  Thank you!

Cheers,
Ngaire

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 14:44:42 -0500
From:    Lisa Wolters <MVRJasper@a.......>
Subject: ObSOSsion, by FK

I think the list needs a feel-good warm-fuzzy today, so...

I wrote an "ObSOS"last night (early this morning, actually), and Rae
responded to me privately:
<<Oh Lord, has it come to this? Now we're ObSOSsing about FK... ;)
<ducking>

To which I say:
*Groaaaan*
Of course, I was ObSOSsing about FK *long* before it became fashionable, how
'bout you?  :)
Actually, we could start our own FORKNI fragrance line:
          ObSOSsion, by FK
<doing my own duck-and-cover...>


Lisa
MVRJasper@a.......

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Date:    Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:23:23 -0330
From:    Ngaire Genge <ngenge@n.......>
Subject: Re: Can Someone Pick Up....?

Hi,

Many thanks to June for picking up my postcards!

Cheers,
Ngaire

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